Netanyahu declares Talmud as basic law of Israel

[rafeh1]

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Report: Netanyahu Promises Talmud Will Be Israeli Law



Date Posted: 2014-05-09 15:04:56

netanyahu tells likud he will change the israeli calendar to a jewish one based on talmudic lawPrime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reportedly revealed at a Likud conference on Wednesday some remarkable facets of the Basic Law he submitted last Thursday, which would enshrine Israel's status as the nation-state of the Jewish people.

Netanyahu told the head of Likud's hareidi division Yaakov Vider at the conference that he intends to make the Hebrew calendar, which is based on Jewish law, the official calendar of Israel, reports Kikar Hashabat.

The new law also would establish the Talmud, the core work of Jewish law, as an official basis for Israeli state law.

"I'm going to personally be involved in the law defining the state of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people," Netanyahu reportedly told Vider. "It's a very important law that will influence how Israel will look in the future."

"I want to anchor in this law, that it will be a Basic Law that the state of Israel arose and exists on the basis of the Torah and the Jewish tradition," Netanyahu explained, promising to define the Hebrew calendar as the official state calendar.

Netanyahu also promised that "we will define in the law the Gemara as a basis for the Israeli legal system," referencing the Jewish legal text analyzing the Mishnah, a legal work of the Jewish sages, which together form the Talmud.



Discussing the new Basic Law on Sunday in a cabinet meeting, Netanyahu stated "the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish state does not actualize itself enough in our Basic Laws, which is what the proposed law aims to fix."

Netanyahu stressed the law would not restrict the rights of non-Jewish citizens of Israel. He further dismissed opposition to the law by leftist MKs, foremost among them Justice Minister Tzipi Livni who pledged to block the law.

"They want a Palestinian national state to be built beside us, and to turn the State of Israel, meanwhile, into a bi-national state, Jewish-Arab, within our restricted borders," Netanyahu argued, saying the new Basic Law would prevent such a situation.

http://virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=12807

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. You'd thnk you'd find more mainstream sources

On this, and Ha'Aretz, for example, having a virtual coronary.

All the links, as few as they are, come from the far right (loud and fringe) religious press

[hobbit709]

2. Would fit right in with some of Israel's neighbor countries.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Mainstream press has nada on this.

That is the problem.

[Aerows]

4. I read the article

but I'm not sure what this all means. What are the differences between the Hebrew Calendar and the Western one (other than obviously the Western one uses BC/AC which obviously doesn't reflect the Jewish religion?)

It sounds interesting to me, and I mean no offense if I made incorrect assumptions - I'm just trying to understand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. The hebew calendar is a lunar calendar

and in Israeli life the New Year is in September, to October, and the secular calendar is acknowledged since the rest of the world does use it.

This makes zero sense since when I spent time in Israel people used the Hebrew calendar for day to day business and the secular western calendar for international trade. Oh that was in the 1980s. So this is coming from a pretty right wing religious source.

The folks at Ha'Aretz would be up in arms if there was any truth to this.

[betterdemsonly]

11. It makes things awfully problematic for

non-jews in Israel.

[LittleBlue]

5. It's from the Times of Israel

Netanyahu reported to say legal system based on Talmud

Ultra-Orthodox member of the Likud party also says PM told him Israel would officially adopt Hebrew calendar

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-reported-to-say-legal-system-based-on-talmud/

The religious right are having a greater and greater influence every year. They have far more children than secular Israelis. The future of Israel will belong to Jewish religious extremists and an equally fecund Arab minority.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. The times of Israel could be compared to the 700 Club

[Mosby]

8. no

The Times of Israel is to the right of haaretz and to the left of Jpost.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. And Ha'Aretz has zero on this

that I could find, and I did look

[betterdemsonly]

12. Haaretz has gone downhill quite alot in the past few years

It has moved the right considerably, and now seems to view itself as hasbarah to liberals.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. As I said, all the sources I got were right to far right

so that has my suspicions going, and the JPost did not run it either.

The other, the day to day calendar in Israel has been the Hebrew Calendar since 1948. So unless Israel will refuse to acknowledge the secular calendar for trade abroad. I remember that from my time in Israel for more than two days back in 1984.It was hard to adapt to that reality.

That said, the Israeli RELIGIOUS right is becoming a real problem these days, and Secular Jews are fighting them because they are tired of the Haderim not doing the army and all that. And no, I do not doubt that Bibi will try to use them, cynically, to keep power. He has in the past, he will in the future.

Yes, the country is at a crossroads in some ways and could easily slip from democracy to religious autocracy this fast.

[MohRokTah]

10. IF true, Israel could never again be called a Democracy.

I'd like some confirmation, but this sounds like the sort of pandering Netanyahu might engage in to hold onto support from the fundamentalists in his coalition.

[Mosby]

13. your agenda is showing

What's with the pics?

[dilby]

15. Watch out little kids or the Jews will get you and bring their Talmud with them.

That's all I got out of this trash but thanks for sharing.

[Mosby]

16. Your first pic links back to an Iranian website

and the second pic is hosted by the "Council for the National Interest" which has a well known anti-semite (alison weir of IfAmericansKnew) as it's president.

[itsrobert]

17. GD Host here: Sorry, but I am going to have to lock this thread

From the last paragraph from the article

"They want a Palestinian national state to be built beside us, and to turn the State of Israel, meanwhile, into a bi-national state, Jewish-Arab, within our restricted borders," Netanyahu argued, saying the new Basic Law would prevent such a situation.

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