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Reply New Rule: If You Don't Acknowledge the Existence of the Federal Government.. (Original post)
Cha Apr 2014 OP
UTUSN Apr 2014 #1
Cha Apr 2014 #4
chrisstopher Apr 2014 #2
Cha Apr 2014 #5
madokie Apr 2014 #43
chrisstopher Apr 2014 #44
sheshe2 Apr 2014 #3
Cha Apr 2014 #7
sheshe2 Apr 2014 #11
Nobel_Twaddle_III Apr 2014 #32
freshwest Apr 2014 #39
Cha Apr 2014 #40
Hoyt Apr 2014 #6
Cha Apr 2014 #8
JHB Apr 2014 #9
Cha Apr 2014 #12
Blue_Adept Apr 2014 #48
treestar Apr 2014 #55
Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #10
Cha Apr 2014 #16
Sunlei Apr 2014 #59
Drew Richards Apr 2014 #13
Cha Apr 2014 #17
kairos12 Apr 2014 #14
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #15
Cha Apr 2014 #18
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #19
Cha Apr 2014 #22
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #34
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #36
Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #20
Cha Apr 2014 #24
grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #25
treestar Apr 2014 #56
nikto Apr 2014 #21
icymist Apr 2014 #35
spanone Apr 2014 #23
oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #26
SunSeeker Apr 2014 #27
oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #31
KansDem Apr 2014 #41
applegrove Apr 2014 #28
Cha Apr 2014 #30
TexasTowelie Apr 2014 #29
Cha Apr 2014 #37
A Simple Game Apr 2014 #45
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #33
Cha Apr 2014 #38
Moostache Apr 2014 #42
christx30 Apr 2014 #46
Cha Apr 2014 #53
ellennelle Apr 2014 #47
rustydog Apr 2014 #49
saidsimplesimon Apr 2014 #50
CFLDem Apr 2014 #51
moondust Apr 2014 #52
treestar Apr 2014 #54
Cha Apr 2014 #58
treestar Apr 2014 #61
Sunlei Apr 2014 #57
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:07 PM

1. Excellent point!1 n/t

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:16 PM

4. Rebels without

a clue.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:14 PM

2. Well put

Let's make it a law.
That would surely pass through the house and senate.

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Response to chrisstopher (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:17 PM

5. Yeah, I think especially the House would be interested in pointing out the Hypocrisy of one

cliven bundy.

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Response to chrisstopher (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:57 AM

43. Welcome to DU

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Response to madokie (Reply #43)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 11:27 AM

44. Thanks

It's great to be here. Love this place!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:16 PM

3. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha~



Well done Cha!

Touche!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:24 PM

7. ol bundy's so seriously into that "Constitution", she.. especially that "First Amendment" of the US

Government that he thinks "Doesn't Exist"..

"I abide by all of Nevada state laws. But I donít recognize the United States government as even existing." Ironically, this position directly contradicts Article 1, Section 2 of the Nevada Constitution.."

MOre..
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/the-irony-of-cliven-bundys-unconstitutional-stand/360587/

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:35 PM

11. Good ol "Cloven Foot" Bundy, Cha...



He picks and chooses what parts of the 'guberment' he wishes to use. He is a user and a taker.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:58 AM

32. Those are Just too sexy

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:25 AM

39. Did Bundesreich understand that NV if part of the USA? Just sayin'...n/t

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Response to freshwest (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:38 AM

40. Bundesreich unfortunately doesn't understand much, fresh.. only that he doesn't want

to pay for his cattle to graze on Federal Land but, he wants to be protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution of said United States Government of America.

Oh and he "abides by the laws of the state of Nevada" except he doesn't.

Nevada State Constitution. Article 1, Section 2

Purpose of government; paramount allegiance to United States.  All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair, subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existence, and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/const/nvconst.html

JHB http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4846212



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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:23 PM

6. Perfect. Those armed terrorists need to be under surveillance.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:25 PM

8. I hope they are, Hoyt.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:31 PM

9. He also doesn't recognize the Nevada State Constitution...

...because it very explicitly forbids "not recognizing the US Government":

Nevada State Constitution. Article 1, Section 2
Purpose of government; paramount allegiance to United States.  All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair, subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existence, and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/const/nvconst.html

Being written in 1864, it's not surprising they used that sort of language.

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Response to JHB (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:23 AM

12. There ya go, JHB.. "Facts"? They don't need no stinkin' facts!

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Response to JHB (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:40 PM

48. I'm sure they find that language unconstitutional

I'm surprised he's not spearheading a movement to get it changed.

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Response to JHB (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:37 PM

55. Secession proofing

Good idea!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:35 PM

10. If they dont recognize the US government then they dont get get the right to the

Second amendment either so their guns will be taken. If they want to follow whatever they want when they want. Bundy is sucking off of the federal tit but doesn't recognize he owes money. The RW has several conspiracies going and they are avoiding the truth. My RW friend has sent me several but I continue to tell him Bundy is a Welfare Cowboy, one of the 47% Romney was talking about. He for got about the 47% also.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:53 AM

16. Precisely, Thinkingabout.. NO Constitutional Rights for bundy and his gang of Terrorists. End of

Story.

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:56 PM

59. That sign is actually the BLM sign they put-up at round-ups to keep observers a mile away.

Then they have armed guards who arrest people, like photographers, who get out of the box.

The Gov will probably arrest Mr. Bundy for taking Gov. property.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:27 AM

13. In that case they should not get the right to due process either..call em enemy combatants and take

Em out...just being facetious I dont really want to see that precedent applied...

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Response to Drew Richards (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:55 AM

17. Oh, the greedy hypocritical assholes will get their due process.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:36 AM

14. Retask the drone pilots they are next door in Vegas for petes sake

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:52 AM

15. +1000!

Perfect!!!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:06 AM

18. Hey Rhiannon!

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:10 AM

19. Hey back, my friend!

What is wrong with these idiots, anyway?!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:26 AM

22. Severly brainwashed.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:04 AM

34. Rhiannon, I just have to say that I LOVE your tagline. You think 8 yrs will be enuf?

That was one helluva mess.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:13 AM

36. Thank you!

I added that just before the election, was thinking I ought to retire it soon. Now I'm reconsidering it... And I couldn't agree more!!! I think eighty years is more like it...

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:20 AM

20. Yup...

...and WHY THE FUCK are they waving American flags there?

Cliven said he didn't believe in the American government.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:39 AM

24. Hey, that's what I was asking! He's one clueless rebel, Cali.. It's our Flag..

he doesn't recognize its existence.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:54 AM

25. +1

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:39 PM

56. +1 good point there too

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:24 AM

21. Must be part of the family...

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Response to nikto (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:07 AM

35. More like this guy?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:26 AM

23. k&r.... the ultimate welfare moocher

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Response to spanone (Reply #23)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 01:58 AM

26. We shouldn't use that term

 

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Response to oneofthe99 (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:08 AM

27. Yes, the correct description of Bundy is thief...

and domestic terrorist.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:34 AM

31. Agree

 

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Response to oneofthe99 (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:52 AM

41. I was wondering if "Sagebush Mafia" would be more appropriate.

Then I looked up "mafia" to learn its characteristics:

In November 2007 Sicilian police reported discovery of a list of "Ten Commandments" in the hideout of mafia boss Salvatore Lo Piccolo, thought to be guidelines on good, respectful and honourable conduct for a mafioso.

1. No one can present himself directly to another of our friends. There must be a third person to do it.
2. Never look at the wives of friends.
3. Never be seen with cops.
4. Don't go to pubs and clubs.
5. Always being available for Cosa Nostra is a duty - even if your wife is about to give birth.
6. Appointments must absolutely be respected. (probably refers to formal rank and authority.)
7. Wives must be treated with respect.
8. When asked for any information, the answer must be the truth.
9. Money cannot be appropriated if it belongs to others or to other families.
10. People who can't be part of Cosa Nostra: anyone who has a close relative in the police, anyone with a two-timing relative in the family, anyone who behaves badly and doesn't hold to moral values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Mafia


But the Bundy crowd would have trouble with numbers 2 & 7:

2. Never look at the wives of friends. How can you not look at them when you tell them to get between you and the Feds?;
7. Wives must be treated with respect. I suppose you can say, "Ma'am, will you please get in front of me? That agent has a gun pointed this way.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:10 AM

28. Brilliant Cha.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:29 AM

30. Hey apple.. I love the internet!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:24 AM

29. And crazy domestic terrorists should not be allowed to say that the Constitution protects them from

cruel and unusual punishment.

Great post, Cha!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #29)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:15 AM

37. No, they need to get straightened out on that by one

Senator Harry Reid, Towelie~

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #29)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:07 PM

45. Yes they should be allowed to say the Constitution protects them from cruel and unusual punishment.

Everyone should be able to say it and believe it. Everyone!

If the Constitution is meaningless then let's quit wasting money defending it.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:01 AM

33. Damn straight. And it's Bill of Rights don't apply to you either.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:24 AM

38. No Rights for you, cliven bundy. You disavow our US Federal Gov then

you get none of the perks. Except hopefully food and lodging courtesy of the US Gov.



Facts have a Liberal Bias ya crazy mofos.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 10:53 AM

42. I can't help but hear "Rhinestone Cowboy" while thinking "Welfare Cowboy"...

I wish I had ANY musical or lyrical talent to make that into a parody video....

Like a Welfare Cowboy!
(All apologies to Mr. Glenn Campbell.)

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:37 PM

46. It's ok to be in contempt

of the government and in favor of something that limits the powers of the government. I don't see a disconnect there.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #46)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:35 PM

53. cliven moocher bundy doesn't acknowledge the Existence of the US Government so he doesn't

get to fall back on the First Amendment Rights or any rights for that matter. There's a huge disconnect..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:37 PM

47. i've been wondering....

for a while now actually -

when is someone gonna revive the old "AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT" meme?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:29 PM

49. Sorry pal, you and your cute poster is dead WRONG!

This is Amurika! and it is a one -way street! We get to declair whatever we think is rong with Amurika and we get to use this horrible countryes Constitution when we see fit.

Now get the fuck out or shut the fuck up.

sincerely,

Sarah, Plain and stupid.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:45 PM

50. Cha thank you for pushback long overdue.

I'm going to eat beans and nuts until these cattle barons are vanquished.

We can't eat fish, farm or ocean feed because they are contaminated. Beef cattle are being feed things we would not eat. Lamb from NZ is contaminated (do your research). If you eat pork, beware, they are raised in filthy pits of excrement.

As for so called organic egg, or chicken farms, there are a few, very few. I'd rather be a skinny "Tom"/

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:20 PM

51. Actually the Constitution is separate from the Government it sets the boundaries for.

 

In theory, The Federal government belongs to the Constitution, not the other way around.

(BTW Bundy and other separatists are asshats who should be executed for treason).

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 06:23 PM

52. And stay off the interstate!

Dammit!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:35 PM

54. K&R

if the federal government were really so bad, that protest could not have occurred.

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Response to treestar (Reply #54)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:52 PM

58. It's only bad when you owe them money.

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Response to Cha (Reply #58)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 09:04 PM

61. Yep!

How convenient to not recognize the existence of your creditors!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 07:48 PM

57. BLM you out there? your signs & armed guards worked better when you used them on 2 or 3 people, huh?

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Apr 20, 2014, 08:34 PM

60. ,

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