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librechik

(30,677 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:15 PM Mar 2012

Those three women witnesses on tape contradicting Zimmerman's story

They all saw Zimmerman over the body after it happened. One says she even askedhim what happened and he wouldn't answer her.

Can't anyone ask them if they saw Zimmerman bleeding or injured in any way? They would have seen his face and condition. Can they corrobaorate that he was injured? or not?

Just asking...

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/25/10854229-witness-zimmerman-never-tried-to-help-trayvon-martin

only the police and Zimmerman's lawyer have made the broken nose claim--with no evidence to back it up. (BTW, I think Trayvon had a right to try to defend himself against a stranger with a gun.)

I'm just curious as to whether these women who have appeared on TV saw the injury.
They did claim Zimmerman was touching his head and acting confused. Was that the result of injury or sudden realization of his own guilt???

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Those three women witnesses on tape contradicting Zimmerman's story (Original Post) librechik Mar 2012 OP
Maybe he injured himself, or a family member did it for him to save his ass. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #1
it turns out that Chief Lee, who resigned, "corroborated" the injury story librechik Mar 2012 #2
Did the autopsy on Trayvon show evidence that he had been in a fist fight? stopbush Mar 2012 #3
Can an autopsy show evidence of a fist fight? Sorry I'm being a total girl here and never been in Justice wanted Mar 2012 #5
Yes. Wait Wut Mar 2012 #7
WAS there an autopsy? mainer Mar 2012 #8
I would imagine it would be required. Wait Wut Mar 2012 #14
Thanks. Again sorry for sounding so stupid. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #10
For what it's worth, I think it was a valid arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #13
Not stupid. Wait Wut Mar 2012 #15
Just found that an autopsy was done, but the report's currently sealed. mainer Mar 2012 #16
yes. magical thyme Mar 2012 #19
Can we wait for a grand jury Johnson20 Mar 2012 #4
No. ellisonz Mar 2012 #11
'Trial' and 'Discuss' have two wholly separate meanings... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #12
Yeah but where is the drama in that? Rex Mar 2012 #21
Maybe you should just skip these threads since Rex Mar 2012 #20
Is there a problem with discussing this? Saying DU is "Trying" him is a bit over the top LaurenG Mar 2012 #28
The issue now is whether Zimmerman should face a trial. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #6
They couldn't see if Trayvon was lying on his back or face down Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #9
Zimmerman refused treatment, the police said librechik Mar 2012 #17
Paramedics looked at him but didn't transport him to the hospitol. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #18
Where is the Doctor who indicate he saw/treated mzmolly Mar 2012 #22
George Zimmerman's legal adviser Craig Sonner told CNN. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #23
Ah, the same adviser who refused to answer questions for an actual mzmolly Mar 2012 #24
Why are you saying sorry to me for? Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #25
--->interjecting--> Mz Molly was saying "sorry" to the sorry lawyer Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #29
sounds like their story is intended to mislead, Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #31
It would appear that you are correct. mzmolly Mar 2012 #35
what BS n/t librechik Mar 2012 #26
It's not my BS. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #27
nobody thinks it's your BS, honest. Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #30
I'm just stopping any thoughts in there tracks that I'm defending Zimmerman. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #32
I know it's not your BS--it's that BS er, Craig Sonner librechik Mar 2012 #33
Ok thanks. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #34

librechik

(30,677 posts)
2. it turns out that Chief Lee, who resigned, "corroborated" the injury story
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:28 PM
Mar 2012

as well as police and a doctor ACCORDING TO THE POLICE--who have been, IMO totally discredited on this incident. I don't believe them. I want someone to ask a non-police witness if Zimmerman apeared injured. I hope the grand jury is doing that.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
5. Can an autopsy show evidence of a fist fight? Sorry I'm being a total girl here and never been in
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:44 PM
Mar 2012

a fight so that's why I'm asking.


I think Zimmerman is guilty as hell and I think the police department covered his sorry ass

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
14. I would imagine it would be required.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Mar 2012

I'm not sure about when they'd be required to release the results, however. I think the attorneys can have the results sealed until after the trial...if there is a trial...etc.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
19. yes.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:26 PM
Mar 2012

autopsy would show bruises (with approx. age of bruises), injuries to knuckles, fractures (which could be dated by the amount of healing, with zero healing showing they occurred shortly before his death), etc.

 

Johnson20

(315 posts)
4. Can we wait for a grand jury
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:42 PM
Mar 2012

or should we continue to try Zimmerman here? The DA and state AG is sitting on all of this for now, as he/she should be

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
11. No.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mar 2012

We should all just be silent so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities about discussion topics.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. 'Trial' and 'Discuss' have two wholly separate meanings...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:58 PM
Mar 2012

'Trial' and 'Discuss' have two wholly separate meanings...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. Maybe you should just skip these threads since
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mar 2012

you seem to think a discussion forum is a trial. Maybe someone can explain to you why you look so silly when you post these things.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
28. Is there a problem with discussing this? Saying DU is "Trying" him is a bit over the top
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

don't you think.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. The issue now is whether Zimmerman should face a trial.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:44 PM
Mar 2012

All this kind of evidence could be presented at a trial if the judge thinks it is relevant.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
9. They couldn't see if Trayvon was lying on his back or face down
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:54 PM
Mar 2012

until they turned the body over. That's when the witness said she knew the body was lying face down. But I would think someone would have noticed something before he was treated by the paramedics.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
18. Paramedics looked at him but didn't transport him to the hospitol.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:20 PM
Mar 2012

The police questioned him without any treatment. Later after questioning Zimmerman saw a doctor who felt he didn't need stitches because the cut was healing on it's own.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
23. George Zimmerman's legal adviser Craig Sonner told CNN.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012
But by the time Zimmerman reached a doctor, "there was an option not to stitch it up because it had already started healing, is my understanding," said the lawyer, who has talked with his client only by telephone.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/30745375/detail.html#ixzz1qRLiRvgp

mzmolly

(51,010 posts)
24. Ah, the same adviser who refused to answer questions for an actual
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
Mar 2012

interview on Larry O'Donnell? I'm not moved, sorry.

I ask again where the Doctor who treated Zimmerman is?

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
25. Why are you saying sorry to me for?
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:27 PM
Mar 2012

Who is trying to move you? I told you what the lawyer said. Sorry, but I'm not the judge and jury as you would like to portray me.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
29. --->interjecting--> Mz Molly was saying "sorry" to the sorry lawyer
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mar 2012

referenced for his lame excuses- you just happen to be there

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
31. sounds like their story is intended to mislead,
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:20 PM
Mar 2012

that he was just about to arrive at the doctor's for stitches, when he looked again and realized it had begun healing; and therefore decided not to bother the doctor?

He probably never went to a doctor, because he probably wasn't injured.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
32. I'm just stopping any thoughts in there tracks that I'm defending Zimmerman.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:39 PM
Mar 2012

I know they know it's not my BS.

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