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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:27 AM Apr 2014

Red Hot Chili Peppers music used to torture prisoners in Guantánamo Bay

The CIA reportedly used Red Hot Chili Peppers music to torture prisoners in Guantánamo Bay.

US officials speaking anonymously to Al Jazeera confirmed details techniques used by the CIA during the George Bush administration following the declassification process for the report on its own "enhanced interrogation" procedures used after September 11. Among the techniques used to torture those suspected of being terrorists was exposure to the Californian band on repeat.

One specific segment of the Senate Intelligence Committee report states that a suspect, named as Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn Abu Zubaydah, was subjected to the technique at a black site prison out of Guantánamo Bay between May and July in 2002.

The report also reveals the fact that Abu Zubaydah was stuffed into a pet crate and was shackled by his wrists to the ceiling of his cell as well as being subjected to an endless loop of loud music.

Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/red-hot-chili-peppers/76639

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Red Hot Chili Peppers music used to torture prisoners in Guantánamo Bay (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2014 OP
Maybe the guards just liked RHCP, and hoped their prisoners didn't. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #1
Anything played in an endless loop, loudly, while you are trying to rest n2doc Apr 2014 #4
I can think of a Disney ride that qualifies pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #7
Damnit Aerows Apr 2014 #10
Sorry pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #11
the only song of theirs I know is hfojvt Apr 2014 #12
First of all, that song is called Under the Bridge Alittleliberal Apr 2014 #22
Ha ha ha, so funny..so innocent..no big deal, loud music? Stuffed in a pet crate? Shackeled? Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #2
I find that really sad. I know many high-profile musicians have protested the use of their and Brickbat Apr 2014 #3
+1 cyberswede Apr 2014 #9
Music and Torture Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #5
Muy caliente! Puzzledtraveller Apr 2014 #6
And their email was rick rolled. lpbk2713 Apr 2014 #8
Did the Feds pay for usage? JHB Apr 2014 #13
That invoice will not generate a payment of money. Jenoch Apr 2014 #16
Under the bridge I go... KamaAina Apr 2014 #14
Get us away, get us away, KamaAina Apr 2014 #15
Ahem. The correct lyrics: WinkyDink Apr 2014 #17
Ahem. Those are Gitmo-centric lyrics. KamaAina Apr 2014 #21
I would have gone with Dan Fogelberg myself. nt hack89 Apr 2014 #18
Ugh. Just listening to one song by RHCP is torture. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #19
Torture is happening in our names. Iggo Apr 2014 #20
I thought I was the only one who didn't "get" that band. Warren DeMontague Apr 2014 #23

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. Maybe the guards just liked RHCP, and hoped their prisoners didn't.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:49 AM
Apr 2014

I'm kind of offended, who doesn't like the Chili Peppers? Actual torture would be dubstep "music".

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Anything played in an endless loop, loudly, while you are trying to rest
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:54 AM
Apr 2014

becomes torture eventually. And these prisoners are from a different culture.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
11. Sorry
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:14 PM
Apr 2014

It was in the news lately--50th anniversary, I think. I couldn't WAIT 'til that news cycle was over!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
12. the only song of theirs I know is
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:18 PM
Apr 2014

City of Angels

And I've always considered listening to it to be torture.

YMMV

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. Ha ha ha, so funny..so innocent..no big deal, loud music? Stuffed in a pet crate? Shackeled?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:52 AM
Apr 2014

So who are the criminals again?

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
3. I find that really sad. I know many high-profile musicians have protested the use of their and
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:53 AM
Apr 2014

others' music as torture.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Music and Torture
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014

The past few posts on this blog have looked at how music and sound has been used to wreak violence on people. This post looks specifically at how music is used to torture people.

Music as a form of torture? This is very far away from what most of us believe about music and its role in our society. Suzanne Cusick is a key thinker and writer on this topic. Here is a link to an in-depth interview with her. In one of her articles, Cusick states:

“It would be possible to assume from the evidence in the popular press that the use of music in “interrogation” is (as one of the sources for the 2003 BBC story, claimed) “rather new”. I’m sorry to report that my reading suggests otherwise; nor is it the random, rogue behavior of particularly sadistic (or musical, or creative) interrogators and MPs. Rather, it is one component of a standard set of interrogation practices developed by the CIA (in cooperation with English and Canadian intelligence agencies) over the second half of the 20th century–a standard set of practices that includes the hooding, stress positions, and sexual/cultural humiliation that the photos leaked from Abu Ghraib prison enabled us to see. Its advocates call this set of practices “no touch torture”.”

http://thenoisecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/music-and-torture/

JHB

(37,160 posts)
13. Did the Feds pay for usage?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:21 PM
Apr 2014

If not, RHCP should follow the Skinny Puppy example.

Although, if it becomes accepted that they have to pay for the music, it'll become another Wingnut Welfare cash cow of "patriotic" bands that use flag-waving to hide their absence of talent.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
16. That invoice will not generate a payment of money.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:34 PM
Apr 2014

The music has to be played as a public performance to generate any royalty fees.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. Ahem. Those are Gitmo-centric lyrics.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
Apr 2014

"Additional lyrics by KamaAina. (C) 2014. All rights reserved."

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. I thought I was the only one who didn't "get" that band.
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:17 PM
Apr 2014

Most of their stuff I find about as listenable as a jackhammer.

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