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ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:09 PM Apr 2014

Elizabeth Warren Picks A Fight With Paul Ryan

This is the funniest and most aggressive I've seen Warren.

"If Ted Cruz were around when the Declaration of Independence was passed he would have tried to repeal it because Jefferson was a Democrat."

She went on, "Paul Ryan says don't blame Wall Street: the guys who made billions of dollars cheating American families; don't blame decades of deregulation that took the cops off the beat while the big banks looted the American economy. Don't blame the Republican Secretary of the Treasury, and the Republican president who set in motion a no-strings-attached bailout for the biggest banks. Nope. Paul Ryan says keep the monies flowing to the powerful corporations, keep their huge tax breaks, keep the special deals for the too-big-to-fail banks and put the blame on hardworking, play-by-the-rules Americans who lost their jobs."

"That may be Paul Ryan's vision of how America works, but that is not our vision of this great country," she said.


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Elizabeth Warren Picks A Fight With Paul Ryan (Original Post) ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 OP
I like our odds in this fight Motown_Johnny Apr 2014 #1
Bidden made a monkey out of him last year in the debate. nt ladjf Apr 2014 #2
To be fair, he was a monkey before the debate even started. QuestForSense Apr 2014 #19
Watch what you say... elzenmahn Apr 2014 #20
+1 L0oniX Apr 2014 #37
True. However, it was the first time I'd heard Ryan in some detail. ladjf Apr 2014 #39
But then that's an insult to amoebas everywhere, too. calimary Apr 2014 #49
Well, amoebas aren't known for their intellect but, as least they aren't crooks. nt ladjf Apr 2014 #54
Too bad he doesn't care what a Senator says yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #30
So true. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #44
+2 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #61
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #3
Now THERE is a headline that's honest, a Senator that ought to be Senate Leader 2banon Apr 2014 #4
Not just 3, 535 Aerows Apr 2014 #14
Hi ChangeUp106. Would you please cross post this in the Elizabeth Warren Group please? Autumn Apr 2014 #5
Done ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #6
Thanks. It's good to have everything on her in our group for easy information. Autumn Apr 2014 #7
More of this from our party please! progressoid Apr 2014 #8
Yeah but, she from a librul commie state. She doesn't have to worry about being reelected. Fla Dem Apr 2014 #53
More of this from our party please! Agony Apr 2014 #63
There isn't a single Teathuglican that could... 99Forever Apr 2014 #9
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... I love the sound of leadership GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #10
I love Elizabeth but, ErikGuard1 Apr 2014 #11
Welcome to DU. I didn't know it was the democrats fault. B Calm Apr 2014 #32
Welcome to DU ... brett_jv Apr 2014 #56
She did not make that claim Mnpaul Apr 2014 #60
Hell I want to pick a fight with Paul Ryan!! mstinamotorcity2 Apr 2014 #12
Get in line Aerows Apr 2014 #15
I won't even equivoquate Aerows Apr 2014 #13
It really does not seem fair. TNNurse Apr 2014 #16
Now that's what Democrats are supposed to sound like! polichick Apr 2014 #17
If she wants it, Liz Warren is the Dem nominee, & probably rolls on to a 40-state landslide in 2016. reformist2 Apr 2014 #18
If she ran, she'd have four votes from 3 generations in this household. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #21
Warren is Great...She knows how to CUT THROUGH THE CRAP that the RW Spews! KoKo Apr 2014 #22
I don't know any Republicans, but I do wonder if they resonate with her message BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #24
They will just say she lied about being Native American ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #25
Her message and her fight is what we need RIGHT NOW BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #26
I have relatives that listen 24/7 to FOX and Limbaugh. olegramps Apr 2014 #33
It is not that group we have to convince. They will vote repug regardless. We need to GOTV. jwirr Apr 2014 #40
But what your post points out BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #48
What I mean by waking up is get your ass to the poll and vote. olegramps Apr 2014 #59
They don't get it. Kermitt Gribble Apr 2014 #51
I do see a lot of anger directed toward the poor as part of this issue BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #57
Can you imagine Warren in a debate? MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #23
K Berlum Apr 2014 #27
wow, she good Vattel Apr 2014 #28
Munster Bawl Blue Owl Apr 2014 #29
Aww Eddie has a sad. L0oniX Apr 2014 #36
$50 on Warren before the first round, and she wouldn't have to lay a glove on him. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2014 #31
Sure, Warren would wipe the floor with Ryan... malthaussen Apr 2014 #34
OUCH! L0oniX Apr 2014 #35
I moved back to Florida iscooterliberally Apr 2014 #38
"Maybe we could build a bridge" knightmaar Apr 2014 #41
Yeah, but Ryan looks cool with his hat on backwards. Kingofalldems Apr 2014 #42
And those biceps!!! eom 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #45
if cool means looking like a douche JI7 Apr 2014 #65
That's not fair! Picking a battle of wits with an unarmed man . . . tclambert Apr 2014 #43
I was thinking the same thing. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2014 #46
To the Democratic Party. Phlem Apr 2014 #47
How anyone here can see things like that and then go back to SheilaT Apr 2014 #50
Verbally denuding Ryan The Wizard Apr 2014 #52
I wish she would have mentioned the fact that INdemo Apr 2014 #55
I'm pretty certain that Aerows Apr 2014 #58
Isn't Benghazi actually Warren's fault? nikto Apr 2014 #62
How about Bernie for Pres. and Elizabeth for V.P.? YOHABLO Apr 2014 #64
K&R. Well said. Overseas Apr 2014 #66

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
39. True. However, it was the first time I'd heard Ryan in some detail.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:31 AM
Apr 2014

Also, my apologies to monkeys. I should have used something lower ,say an amoeba.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
30. Too bad he doesn't care what a Senator says
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:51 AM
Apr 2014

The House is insulated and could care less what a Senator says. The folks who should be speaking out to Paul Ryan are the House members specifically the Democrats who are pretty quiet on Ryan.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
61. +2
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:49 PM
Apr 2014

But I give the woman credit for trying. Ryan the Ratfucker needs to be countered and resisted in every possible way.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
4. Now THERE is a headline that's honest, a Senator that ought to be Senate Leader
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 06:31 PM
Apr 2014

and we need someone like her in the House 2014(replacing mealy mouthed Pelosi) and someone like her as POTUS in 2016.

Can we just clone her into 3 people? Somehow?? Can't we pleeeeaaazzzeee?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
9. There isn't a single Teathuglican that could...
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:14 PM
Apr 2014

... last 10 minutes in a debate with Senator Warren.

None. Zippo. Nadda.

Warren/Sanders '16 or Sanders/Warren '16

Unbeatable.

 

ErikGuard1

(7 posts)
11. I love Elizabeth but,
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:25 PM
Apr 2014

The "no strings attached bank bail out" could not have happened without the cooperation and support of the Democrats that controlled both the House and the Senate at the time. Unfortunately no matter how much I would like to you can't blame it all on the repubs. Her arguments and debating skills are strong enough on their own without having to misrepresent or embellish facts.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
56. Welcome to DU ...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:25 PM
Apr 2014

Dems definitely do bear some blame for the bailout, you are correct on that. However, no Repub would hesitate to make a similar claim to Warren's if the shoe was on the other foot (for reference: Benghazi, when the Repubs in the House refused to release funds to beef up Embassy security), so ... I say F 'em. Tired of being the 'nice guys' when the opposition has ZERO regard for facts or truth. Time for hardball.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
60. She did not make that claim
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 08:23 PM
Apr 2014

and did not lay blame solely on the Republicans. She was arguing against failed policy supported by people from both parties.

the Republican president who set in motion a no-strings-attached bailout for the biggest banks

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
12. Hell I want to pick a fight with Paul Ryan!!
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:30 PM
Apr 2014

Get the Gloves!!! They are for Ryan I am going to stand my ground

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. Get in line
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:45 PM
Apr 2014

I think EW would kick his ass so hard, he'd have a difficult time finding out how to tie his shoes.

When he actually finds them.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
16. It really does not seem fair.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 07:53 PM
Apr 2014

She is smart, well informed, has lots of common sense and he is...... well, none of those things.

It really isn't a fair fight. Go get him Elizabeth......

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
18. If she wants it, Liz Warren is the Dem nominee, & probably rolls on to a 40-state landslide in 2016.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:05 PM
Apr 2014

She's that good.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
24. I don't know any Republicans, but I do wonder if they resonate with her message
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:26 PM
Apr 2014

Any 99% American should be able to understand her clear, 100% correct, populist message. I wonder if they're so turned inside out by fox and preachers they can't even hear the truth. They know they're being lied to by Cruz, Christie, Romney and Rove, so I wonder how they feel about Warren?

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
25. They will just say she lied about being Native American
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:31 PM
Apr 2014

I see it in every comment section in articles about her. It's literally the only thing they have on her.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
26. Her message and her fight is what we need RIGHT NOW
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 09:43 PM
Apr 2014

She could run on an economic platform of JOBS and healing our economy. The die hard nutters may worry about her ancestry, but I don't know how anyone could refute that this country needs jobs. And since the Rs haven't done shit in their tenure, she could run circles around them. They could run on God & guns, but Independents might listen.

But I have no doubt the national Democratic party wants no part of her. They would have to change their Third Way course and that ain't gonna happen.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
33. I have relatives that listen 24/7 to FOX and Limbaugh.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:03 AM
Apr 2014

Believe me that it is impossible to cut through the wall of ignorance that they have been encased in. No amount of logic can make a dent in the armor. The threat to their very wellbeing by the Republican agenda that includes privatization of Social Security, destruction of Medicare with a voucher system and of course repeal of the ACA along with massive cuts to safety net social programs and repeal of minimum wage laws doesn't daunt their fossilized brains. I can only say good luck to our younger people. Unless people wakeup damn soon their future looks mighty bleak.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
48. But what your post points out
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:46 PM
Apr 2014

Is that there are some who refuse to see reason. Maybe Democrats should just figure out what percentage that is and say, we don't pander for their votes. It seems it is impossible with the current electoral makeup for a hard right republican to win. So as long as Democrats start acting like Democrats, they'll win all those independents and moderate right who are appalled by the right wing clown car. And yet, the third way does their best to make something so simple very complicated in order to obscure that their agenda is the same as the Republicans. That's where the problem lies.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
59. What I mean by waking up is get your ass to the poll and vote.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 06:52 PM
Apr 2014

The young people's future is in jeopardy. Anyone who looks at Ryan's budget should be scared to death unless they are in the upper 10%.

Kermitt Gribble

(1,855 posts)
51. They don't get it.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:22 PM
Apr 2014

My working class, tea bagging facebook friends don't see that her message is to benefit the working class, they see her as a communist.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
57. I do see a lot of anger directed toward the poor as part of this issue
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:50 PM
Apr 2014

She is doing a great job of talking about middle class (which is actually lower middle class than it ever was) people trying to make it through the day. It seems that unless someone is a religious zealot, the message of supporting the "job creators" by the Republicans is a losing one. Most everyone hates their boss and most everyone, even in the higher income brackets that I know is not doing well financially.

But like I said, I live in California, so we are not steeped in RW radio and nonsensical hate 24/7 if we don't want to be. All my visits to the south have been rather eye opening, especially flipping on the radio. Love the food and some of the people, but man, there is some whacky shit going on down there.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
31. $50 on Warren before the first round, and she wouldn't have to lay a glove on him.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:08 AM
Apr 2014

Lyin' Ryan would swoon during the referee's instructions.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
34. Sure, Warren would wipe the floor with Ryan...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014

... but every "pundit" in the land would call it for Munster-boy. You don't think debates are about content, do you?


-- Mal

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
38. I moved back to Florida
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:19 AM
Apr 2014

I got a job offer that I could not refuse, but while I was living in Boston I did get to vote for Elizabeth Warren. I want to vote for her again. I hope she runs for President.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
41. "Maybe we could build a bridge"
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:26 AM
Apr 2014

" ... and I mean that literally."

Because you guys actually have a lot of bridges falling apart.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
50. How anyone here can see things like that and then go back to
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:14 PM
Apr 2014

chanting, "Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!" is beyond me.

Warren is absolutely completely for the average person in this country. Show me where Ms. Clinton has done the same.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
52. Verbally denuding Ryan
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:33 PM
Apr 2014

is always a treat. He's in way over his head with Elizabeth Warren. Has anyone ever asked for his curriculum vitae regarding economics? It appears that his only concern is widening the gap between the rich and poor and in the process courting civil unrest. He's better suited to be a douche bag salesman on the whore house circuit.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
55. I wish she would have mentioned the fact that
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:04 PM
Apr 2014

A large portion of Paul Ryan's college tuition was paid for with Social Security benefits....
We need to draft this woman for President in 2016. We don't need another corporatist in the White House. Now sure the Koch Bros will up the campaign stakes with the new SCOTUS ruling but as individuals we can overcome their big bucks. We really need this woman to run.Hillary no..too many billionaires would be wanting their financial backing payback..

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
58. I'm pretty certain that
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 03:02 PM
Apr 2014

Elizabeth Warren has taken shits that exhibit more intelligence than Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz put together. They certainly had more moral courage, since those two couldn't find a moral with a compass, a flashlight and a GPS. They are like the Flight 370 of morals.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
62. Isn't Benghazi actually Warren's fault?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:32 AM
Apr 2014

Or maybe that Malaysian airliner crash?



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