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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:42 PM Mar 2012

Zimmerman: Trayvon tried to take my gun...

This doesn't make sense..how would Martin know he had a gun


http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.

Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the teenager.

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Zimmerman: Trayvon tried to take my gun... (Original Post) HipChick Mar 2012 OP
Personally glad that Zimmerman is talking abelenkpe Mar 2012 #1
Like the cruise ship captain who "fell" into the lifeboat! SharonAnn Mar 2012 #13
Keep lying George! I worked so well when Gush did it! Rex Mar 2012 #2
So Trayvon Knew he had a Gun ? so he admits to holding out his gun on Trayvon ? JI7 Mar 2012 #3
you make a good point, he couldn't go for a gun that wasn't seen. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #5
It's not like serial killers or kidnappers ever use guns to take victim rbrnmw Mar 2012 #9
Trayvon acted like a kid pursued by an adult stranger. Zimmerman acted like a stalking pedophile. blm Mar 2012 #4
Zimmerman is not seen but he sure gets his stories out by the cops julian09 Mar 2012 #11
There may have been a shoddy investigation, but please don't rush to "cover up." No evidence of that RBInMaine Mar 2012 #17
So would I if an armed nut was following me, harassing me and starting an altercation with me Cass Mar 2012 #6
Zimmerman doesn't even realize what he is doing. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #7
So (NOW) you say that the kid (who you chased down) kicked your ass .........so you killed him underpants Mar 2012 #8
"neighborhood watch captain" again grasswire Mar 2012 #10
More stories than a NYC skyscraper. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #12
Hope his guilty ass keeps babbling while CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #14
I assume that the ER reports can corroborate? quakerboy Mar 2012 #15
Which is why paramedics transported...oh wait nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #16
And yet then it was reported that Zimmerman's injuries were "minor", so he didn't get a medical exam RBInMaine Mar 2012 #18
Show the mug shot - I'm calling bullshit until they do. Initech Mar 2012 #19
Was his body found at the curb by his truck or was he on somone's lawn? notadmblnd Mar 2012 #20
More importantly, if Zimm was so scared of the child obxhead Mar 2012 #21
Well, if he was holding a gun on EC Mar 2012 #22

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
1. Personally glad that Zimmerman is talking
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:45 PM
Mar 2012

Cause everything he claims is idiotic and makes him look more guilty.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. So Trayvon Knew he had a Gun ? so he admits to holding out his gun on Trayvon ?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:47 PM
Mar 2012

what was the kid supposed to fucking DO ?

he wasn't a fucking law enforcement officer. Zimmerman seems to think Trayvon should have responded to him as one should an actual official police .

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
5. you make a good point, he couldn't go for a gun that wasn't seen.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:01 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman didn't have any legal "authority" to detain or question Trayvon.

If someone has a gun, that qualifies as a lethal threat.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
9. It's not like serial killers or kidnappers ever use guns to take victim
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mar 2012
the kid shouldn't be frightened of super George the Super Watchman

blm

(113,057 posts)
4. Trayvon acted like a kid pursued by an adult stranger. Zimmerman acted like a stalking pedophile.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:47 PM
Mar 2012

Are kids taught throughout their childhood and teens to scream and fight when adults approach them close enough to grab them? Yes. They are taught that by responsible parents and law enforcement mentors who train the kids, usually in school settings.

That should be the end of the "But he hit me" defense from the adult.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
11. Zimmerman is not seen but he sure gets his stories out by the cops
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:08 PM
Mar 2012

who covered up for him. He had a month to cook up stories. They know when the gun went off after he followed Trayvon.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
17. There may have been a shoddy investigation, but please don't rush to "cover up." No evidence of that
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:38 PM
Mar 2012

It is clear that Zimmerman was responsible for initiating this incident. That is clear from him using the language he used and attitude that shows when he pursued Trayvon. He used very bad judgement in following and confronting Trayvon. If, as he claims, Trayvon tried to "take his gun", then Trayvon would had to have seen the gun. Was Zimmerman brandishing the weapon? Did Trayvon try to walk away, get restrained by Zimmerman, and then the struggle was on? Where is the medical report to verify Zimmerman's broken nose? Are there photographs? I think Zimmerman aggressively pursued Trayvon after he profiled him, he was also fueled by ego and racist attitudes proven by him referring to Trayvon as an "asshole" and "fucking coon." I think when he confronted Trayvon he was determined to not let Trayvon get away which instigated the struggle and then Zimmerman probably slipped back (it was a wet night), and then when Trayvon was getting the best of him, he pulled his gun and shot him. But, if Trayvon was on top of him, how was he able to shoot Trayvon in the chest? Zimmerman either was not "getting pummeled with Trayvon on top of him" or he was able to throw Trayvon off, get his gun out, and shoot Trayvon in the chest. No matter how you look at this, Zimmerman's mindset upon pursuing Trayvon is clear based on his aggressive and racist statements. He didn't immediately shoot Trayvon which shows it wasn't a case of immediate murder, but what I see here is negligent and reckless homicide, which is manslaughter, a very serious felony.

Cass

(2,600 posts)
6. So would I if an armed nut was following me, harassing me and starting an altercation with me
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:02 PM
Mar 2012

If he was trying to take away his gun then he knew Zimmerman had one and believed his life to be in danger. I still believe it was Trayvon who had the right to invoke the stand your ground law.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
7. Zimmerman doesn't even realize what he is doing.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:03 PM
Mar 2012

When in a deep hole, the best thing to do is to stop digging.

Asshole went out and bought a bigger shovel.

underpants

(182,799 posts)
8. So (NOW) you say that the kid (who you chased down) kicked your ass .........so you killed him
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mar 2012

you killed him

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
15. I assume that the ER reports can corroborate?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
Mar 2012

I mean a punch to the nose and repeatedly slamming into the ground would leave some pretty clear damage as evidence, no?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Which is why paramedics transported...oh wait
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:29 PM
Mar 2012

This didn't happen, and yes EMS responded.

So unless an EMS form with an against medical advise can be produced

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
18. And yet then it was reported that Zimmerman's injuries were "minor", so he didn't get a medical exam
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:39 PM
Mar 2012

and report?

Initech

(100,068 posts)
19. Show the mug shot - I'm calling bullshit until they do.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:46 PM
Mar 2012

Oh wait - there was no arrest yet. Never mind.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
21. More importantly, if Zimm was so scared of the child
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 08:21 PM
Mar 2012

why did he even get out of the SUV?

Oh yeah, he was trying to figure out what street he was on in his own neighborhood. The neighborhood where he is the "captain" of the watch.



I hope he just spins a new portion of this fairy tale everyday. Eventually his lying will trip itself up. He's forgotten the first rule in lying, keep it simple.

EC

(12,287 posts)
22. Well, if he was holding a gun on
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

the kid, he had every right to STAND HIS GROUND and use any means to protect himself. For all the Trayvon knew he was trying to kidnap him or hurt him.

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