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Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but what Cheney got was an implant, not a transplant (Original Post) Bucky Mar 2012 OP
I'm confused. Reports are saying transplant. which is it? morningfog Mar 2012 #1
It's a joke. That is, he never had one to begin with. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #15
I was a little slow on the pick up last night. morningfog Mar 2012 #19
who knows with his new pump he might not need to pump it up.... madrchsod Mar 2012 #2
Well, I think he was running on a fake heart for quite a while. MADem Mar 2012 #3
I dated a girl with implants, and she was really sweet. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #4
And an inspection on his lube, electrical, hydraulic, cooling, air intake, & fueling systems. Swede Mar 2012 #5
I hope he has a good warranty Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #18
NYT - Transplant elleng Mar 2012 #6
My understanding is that he received a human heart from a deceased man4allcats Mar 2012 #7
OP was a joke...an implant implies there was no heart to begin with. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #8
finally! Bucky Mar 2012 #10
I don't see why anyone would make that assumption, although apparently man4allcats Mar 2012 #12
info - things have changed emilyg Mar 2012 #9
I do realize standards change. My brother died in 1995, man4allcats Mar 2012 #11
Same reason Mickey Mantle and David Crosby got new livers. Money. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #16
Thank-you. man4allcats Mar 2012 #17
He received a human heart transplant. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #13
I think the correct word would be "installation". baldguy Mar 2012 #14

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
2. who knows with his new pump he might not need to pump it up....
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:32 PM
Mar 2012

i`m wondering if he has the new continuous pump for a heart...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Well, I think he was running on a fake heart for quite a while.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:32 PM
Mar 2012

He had a portable machine that kept him going. He was heartless for some time, certainly--even before he got the machine.

Swede

(33,236 posts)
5. And an inspection on his lube, electrical, hydraulic, cooling, air intake, & fueling systems.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:37 PM
Mar 2012

Old Darth should be good til the winter tune up.

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
7. My understanding is that he received a human heart from a deceased
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:44 PM
Mar 2012

donor; i.e., not an implantable mechanical device to hold him over until a suitable donor could be found. From what I know (I am not a physician), this qualifies as an organ transplant, the heart being the organ in this particular case. What bothers me about the whole thing is that Cheney is 71 years old. When my late brother was on a heart transplant list, the rule was that people over 50 were considered, by the DeBakey Clinic at least, to be too old to be eligible on the premise that given a shortage of available organs, those that did become available should go to people with a somewhat longer life expectancy. So how the hell did this old bastard manage to get a transplant?!

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
12. I don't see why anyone would make that assumption, although apparently
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
Mar 2012

from Bucky's post #10 that is, in fact, what he meant. Guess I'm just a little too technically oriented to get it.

 

emilyg

(22,742 posts)
9. info - things have changed
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 09:57 PM
Mar 2012

The New Transplant Patient
Older, sicker patients are becoming eligible for organ transplantation, increasing the need for organs and raising new questions about who should get priority on waiting lists.
By Kate Ledger
Ardell Lien of Caledonia, Minnesota, had a history of heart trouble that started with atrial fibrillation when he was in his 30s; but nothing prepared him for the devastation of congestive heart failure that hit hard a few decades later. The golf-playing, globetrotting father of three, who’d once lived on a boat with his wife, Maureen, could barely walk or take a shower without experiencing extreme fatigue by the time he’d reached his 60s.

Lien’s family and friends encouraged him to go to Mayo Clinic for further evaluation, and there, Lien was surprised to learn that hope still existed. His doctor, Brooks Edwards, M.D., thought Lien would be a good candidate for a heart transplant. “I never thought I’d be eligible for that kind of surgery at age 67,” Lien says. What’s more, Lien remained a candidate even as his kidneys began to fail while he was waiting for a new heart

man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
11. I do realize standards change. My brother died in 1995,
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:10 PM
Mar 2012

but I am surprised to learn that even now people in their late 60s (or in Cheney's case early 70s), some with multiple organ failure as in the case you mention, are today being considered eligible. Further, when my brother was sick, there was considerable attention paid to the patient's lifestyle in determining eligibility. Drug and alcohol abusers generally did not qualify. I can't imagine that a rich, evil old s.o.b. like Cheney who undoubtedly never made any effort to control the appetites that most certainly contributed to his condition will make any attempt now to change his self-destructive ways. They should have let the old fucker die. Someone else could have used the heart, and the rest of us would have all been better off.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
16. Same reason Mickey Mantle and David Crosby got new livers. Money.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:04 PM
Mar 2012

Even though they destroyed their livers through alcohol and drug abuse.


man4allcats

(4,026 posts)
17. Thank-you.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 11:44 PM
Mar 2012

My brother was still alive at that time - at least for Mantle and maybe for Crosby too - not sure about the latter, but I do remember my brother wondering aloud why Mantle was considered eligible as did I. Of course we both knew the answer. Money buys a lot - including transplant committees!

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
13. He received a human heart transplant.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:26 PM
Mar 2012

he had an extracorporeal assistive device(mechanical heart_) before that.Heart transplant traditionally have a good post-op course...not like the lungs do sometime.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
14. I think the correct word would be "installation".
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 10:32 PM
Mar 2012

Adding a feature the CheneyBot did not have as original equipment.

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