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malaise

(269,045 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:16 PM Mar 2014

Want to win in 2014 -Simple Dems - get those ads going showing people

by hospital beds, at funerals and in graveyards as their relatives die for lack of health care

Every ad must end in a simple phrase - why would any party representing their constituents be against the Affordable Care Act.

Maybe we should have our own Youtube competition to get these ads going.
Anything ReTHUGs can do we can do - and much better.

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Want to win in 2014 -Simple Dems - get those ads going showing people (Original Post) malaise Mar 2014 OP
I agree. And to gauge the success of those ads, watch the outrage by Republicans closely. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #1
100% agree, run AT the GOP with ACA and demonize them to the nth degree while INFORMING uponit7771 Mar 2014 #2
That fugging simple malaise Mar 2014 #6
I think they should do ads Beer Snob-50 Mar 2014 #3
They should do both malaise Mar 2014 #7
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #13
That is the approach that Bill Clinton's truth war room took in the 1992 election. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #21
The sad thing is ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #25
I agree with you ... but ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #4
They should also not forget to carpet bomb the GOP on their obstructing Vinnie From Indy Mar 2014 #5
Dems need to double down on ACA, showing the new enrollment numbers and muntrv Mar 2014 #8
News clips pre-ACA were full of reports of the prior suckage. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #9
Simple Phrase should be, 'Why are the Republicans letting people die?' n/t Dawgs Mar 2014 #10
Been trying to shout this at the Dems and WH. It seems that Dems don't want to support the ACA kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #11
Frankly ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #15
True but we need ads with people bawling malaise Mar 2014 #16
The President is defending the ACA and the improvement that the law has brought, it's bluestate10 Mar 2014 #22
We need to be proactive not reactionary Fearless Mar 2014 #12
exactly, go on offense! napkinz Mar 2014 #45
Be aggressive. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #14
Here's a good one-...from a health insurance agent. ErikJ Mar 2014 #17
Nice malaise Mar 2014 #18
Hey, go for the double quadruple guilt. winter is coming Mar 2014 #19
Replace that last line malaise Mar 2014 #27
Nah, that should be a separate ad. winter is coming Mar 2014 #31
I like but I want lots of bawling malaise Mar 2014 #33
Bawling grates on the nerves, especially with repeat viewings. winter is coming Mar 2014 #35
Well bring out the Visine for some tear drops - malaise Mar 2014 #36
And we should have a positive one for Kentucky, e.g. winter is coming Mar 2014 #38
Absolutely malaise Mar 2014 #39
NO, absolutely NO!! What Democrats must do is put people in Ads that have benefited bluestate10 Mar 2014 #20
I know a RW who benefited ErikJ Mar 2014 #23
Excellent suggestion. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #24
Do both malaise Mar 2014 #28
Do more positive ads than negative ones, though. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #30
three things if we want to WIN in 2014 ... napkinz Mar 2014 #26
Most excellent napkinz malaise Mar 2014 #29
really, time to go on offense! napkinz Mar 2014 #34
I posted this as a reply to my own thread too ... napkinz Mar 2014 #43
+1,000 malaise Mar 2014 #44
Nailed it! n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #32
Yeah. You could ask the Westboro Baptist Church people to skooch over a bit, give jtuck004 Mar 2014 #37
What do the Koch brothers have to gain? Delmette Mar 2014 #40
Really cheap labor malaise Mar 2014 #41
They want us to believe that nothing good comes from the government, ever. winter is coming Mar 2014 #42
this ... napkinz Mar 2014 #46
So... Delmette Mar 2014 #47
thread started by WillyT: TIME TO EMBRACE OBAMACARE!!! napkinz Mar 2014 #48
The GOP’s Staggering Failure: A Full 64% Of Americans Love Their Obamacare! (Video) napkinz Mar 2014 #49
Ha malaise Mar 2014 #52
kick napkinz Mar 2014 #50
I'd prefer not to be dishonest. LWolf Mar 2014 #51
***Democrats the party with heart, because the other party is heartless.*** DearAbby Mar 2014 #53

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. I agree. And to gauge the success of those ads, watch the outrage by Republicans closely.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:19 PM
Mar 2014

The louder the outrage, the better the ads are for Democrats. The quieter Republicans are, the least effective the ads are. It's that simple.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
2. 100% agree, run AT the GOP with ACA and demonize them to the nth degree while INFORMING
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:20 PM
Mar 2014

...grandma\pa that the GOP never wanted medicade in the first place...

Wash Rinse Repeat... so that everyone knows about the commericial

Beer Snob-50

(6,676 posts)
3. I think they should do ads
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:20 PM
Mar 2014

showing snippets of the afp ads with the people bitching about obamacare and then telling what really happened. ie the lady with lukema saying her health care cancelled and the new policy was much more expensive.
Cut to the truth that her costs actually went down.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. Yeah ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

Show a segment of the Claim, then cut to a still shot of the liar captioned "The Truth" saying what the real ACA result was, then three or 4 claims and truths, ending with the tag line, "Why believe someone that lies to you ... Why vote for them, either?

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
21. That is the approach that Bill Clinton's truth war room took in the 1992 election.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:37 PM
Mar 2014

Repeat the lie, then methodically de construct it, and don't be mealy-mouthed about the deconstruction.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. The sad thing is ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:44 PM
Mar 2014

This kind of ad is relatively inexpensive to make and there are probably 30+ people right here at DU that have the talent/ability to make one (or 10) that can be youtubed and facebooked.

But that won't happen.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. I agree with you ... but ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:21 PM
Mar 2014

... if we take DU as a guide, we on the left will be spending our time endlessly complaining about how awful the ACA is because its not Medicare for all.

Apparently, many here think that strategy will help us advance towards such an end, faster than supporting the ACA, and building on it would.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
5. They should also not forget to carpet bomb the GOP on their obstructing
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:23 PM
Mar 2014

unemployment extensions for laid off workers.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
8. Dems need to double down on ACA, showing the new enrollment numbers and
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:12 PM
Mar 2014

number of uninsured dropping. Also, trot out the Alan Grayson line (GOP Plan: Don't get sick. If you do, die quickly).

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
11. Been trying to shout this at the Dems and WH. It seems that Dems don't want to support the ACA
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:40 PM
Mar 2014

either. It's not perfect but it is a start and everyone is talking about healthcare costs now. I just wish that the Dems would get out and say"


DAMN IT!! Mr. President,

When are you going to get out there and defend yourself and your record? And I don’t mean preaching to the choir but out there with the folks that have been propagandized into believing that they should hate you. The Sink loss in FL should not have been. FOX “News”, talk radio, and Koch money should have been beaten with the TRUTH and some facts about how the ACA has already benefited many people especially seniors. Sure they have received rebates and the doughnut hole has been closed…but they don’t even know that and for sure they don’t know how the ACA made that all possible. I don’t know who is on your staff and how much they get paid but they need to use a bit more common sense than political savvy. They need to “Palinize” your message to the people who vote. Something like this:

“Ok, I get that you may not like me or like me as your President but that should not stop you from voting for people who make policies that help you and your loved ones. You are not voting for me anymore, you are voting for yourselves. Just use your own common sense and think about the things you have been told by both sides. Do you really think anyone in this government wants to set up “death panels” or stop you Social Security? Who would that benefit? The only people who want to see the ACA (or “Obamacare” as some call it) are the people who will not be able to continue to make more and more money by charging you more and more costs for you health care and those who think that scaring you about the ACA will get them elected because people hate me so much they are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Don’t be one of those people. Think for yourself…you are smart enough to read the facts about the ACA. Turn off FOX “News” and turn off CNN and even turn off MSNBC that seeks to tell the truth about the ACA. Turn them all off. Read for yourself, talk it over with your children and grandchildren. I have faith in you even if you don’t have faith in me. I don’t personally have anything to lose in this battle but our nation does.”
Or this:

“I know you have seen those political ads where people say they have been hurt by the ACA. But did you know that the woman……who claims…….. actually found out that she would be paying less under the ACA. Bet no TV ad showed you that…especially on FOX “News.” Did anyone tell you that when the facts were checked…..X out of Y of those ads were outright lies and the rest were misinformation?”
You will have to do this yourself because even the Democrats Also, ask them what they like about the GOP plan? They won’t be able to answer because there is none.

This is the kind of stuff seniors can identify with. You need the youth to sign up BUT you need the SENIORS to vote the right people into office who will actually look out for them.

You are going to have to do this for yourself because even the Democrats aren’t going to help.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
22. The President is defending the ACA and the improvement that the law has brought, it's
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:41 PM
Mar 2014

Democratic candidates in red states and swing districts that are foolishly ignoring all the good the law has brought, while letting republicans set the tone.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
12. We need to be proactive not reactionary
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:41 PM
Mar 2014

We need to set the tone of the election season and leave them reeling from it.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
45. exactly, go on offense!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:28 PM
Mar 2014

As I said before, don't leave it to the Koch Brothers to create the narrative.

This is OUR story to tell.





Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
14. Be aggressive.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:05 PM
Mar 2014

Challenge the meme that Reagan was a good president.
Challenge the meme that the 1% are job creators.
Challenge the meme that less government is a good thing.
Challenge the meme that says we need to spend half our national budget on a MIC that fails too damn often.
Challenge every word out of their mouths. If they say "good morning", check your watch and correct them in public every time they are wrong.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
19. Hey, go for the double quadruple guilt.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:24 PM
Mar 2014

Black and white shots of a modest house, bereft dad and kids with the voiceover:

"She knew she was sick, but after we got laid off, we could only find part-time work here and there, and none of those jobs had benefits.

So she never told me how sick she was, until it was too late."

malaise

(269,045 posts)
27. Replace that last line
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:05 PM
Mar 2014

We thought she had a chance until the ReTHUG governor refused the money
and now she's dead- bawling begins

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
31. Nah, that should be a separate ad.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:18 PM
Mar 2014

"Like millions of Americans, we're too poor to buy insurance, but make too much money to get Medicaid. When I first heard about Obamacare, I was so hopeful -- we'd finally have some insurance, for the first time in years.

Then Governer Perry (or some other red state yahoo) refused to take Federal money to expand Medicaid.

My husband has heart problems. I know he needs to see a doctor, but we can't afford it.

Isn't being poor hard enough without having some politician playing games with our health?"

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
35. Bawling grates on the nerves, especially with repeat viewings.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:25 PM
Mar 2014

I think an air of desolation with a tasteful tear or two would work better.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
38. And we should have a positive one for Kentucky, e.g.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:38 PM
Mar 2014

"When Obamacare passed, I was worried.

I wasn't worried about the law itself, because I knew it would help a lot of people. I was worried that a lot of working people in Kentucky would be left out.

You see, a lot Republican governors were turning down Federal funding to expand Medicaid. That's right; money we've already paid for with our taxes was going to come back to Kentucky to help us see the doctor and stay out of the emergency room.

I'm glad our governor had the sense to accept the money, and I'm glad I finally have insurance again."

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
20. NO, absolutely NO!! What Democrats must do is put people in Ads that have benefited
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:32 PM
Mar 2014

from Obamacare, especially those that didn't think they would benefit and how had been lukewarm to the law before it was implemented. There are millions of people out in the country that have benefited, they are easier to find than those that claim to not have benefited, it's just republicans are better at finding the negative cases.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
23. I know a RW who benefited
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:42 PM
Mar 2014

A very RW relative (nurse too) who hates Obamacare.
Her "under-employed" hearing-impaired 28 yr old son was in a serious snowboarding accident in January. She told me he finally got on Obamacare after the accident and is now COVERED for the big medical bills.
I told her she was lucky he didnt live in a red state that refused Medicaid expansion or he (or YOU!) wouldve been stuck with the bills. I havent heard back from her since! I cant believe it but I think she may be a convert now!
Sadly, too often it takes a personal experience for RWers to see the light.

malaise

(269,045 posts)
28. Do both
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:06 PM
Mar 2014

People identify with sob stories and they know people who would be alive if they had health care.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
26. three things if we want to WIN in 2014 ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:01 PM
Mar 2014

[font size="3"](1) a MASSIVE ad campaign sharing ACA success stories[/font]


for example:




http://aattp.org/watch-this-obamacare-success-story-is-what-scares-the-hell-out-of-the-gop-video/


Find the people who are sharing their stories below and do an ad blitz!

https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories

https://twitter.com/ACASuccessStory

http://acasignups.net






[font size="3"](2) a MASSIVE ad campaign focussing on the thousands who will die because Republican governors have refused Medicaid expansion[/font]

















[font size="3"](3) remind Americans:[/font]



















napkinz

(17,199 posts)
43. I posted this as a reply to my own thread too ...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

The Koch Brothers are funding commercials that feature distortions, lies, and bogus claims coming from ignorant victims or political operatives.

Well have REAL PEOPLE, WITH REAL STORIES. Where are our commercials?

Below is a handful of success stories. And there are thousands more! IMAGINE an ad blitz for the next eight months, TV ads that feature these real-life success stories:























































source: https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories






 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
37. Yeah. You could ask the Westboro Baptist Church people to skooch over a bit, give
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:30 PM
Mar 2014

you some room to get voters.



Respectfully - What a horrible fucking idea. Associate DEMOCRAT with what might be the worst time in their life. And every time they remember that pain, they remember DEMOCRAT. eesh.

Honest truth - I think whether Ds win in 2014 depends more on what they did in 2008. 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 than any ad campaign. Are people running around every day wishing they had health care, or wishing they had a job? Do you think they feel good that they are on food stamps while you saved the banks so it would help those with no money?

One of the things you learn when training animals is that the reward must be something that is valuable to THEM, not you.

But we shall see.

Delmette

(522 posts)
40. What do the Koch brothers have to gain?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:52 PM
Mar 2014

They keep dumping millions of dollars to defeat ACA. They have to be gaining something. If we knew what they have up their sleeve, that could be exploited.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
42. They want us to believe that nothing good comes from the government, ever.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:01 PM
Mar 2014

'Cause if we believed that, we'd expect our government to provide things like a safety net (which costs money that could otherwise go to the 1% and might give those workers bad ideas about having rights) and regulations on corporations (which interfere with their profits).

It's all about money. The millions of dollars they're dumping on ACA and elections is a fraction of what they hope to make in return.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
48. thread started by WillyT: TIME TO EMBRACE OBAMACARE!!!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:47 PM
Mar 2014
It’s Time for Democrats to Embrace Obamacare
John Cassidy - TheNewYorker
3/12/14

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024663436

Trying to pussyfoot around Obamacare was an awkward strategy, and, evidently, it didn’t work. If other Democrats are to avoid meeting Sink’s fate in November, they need something more convincing to say about the Affordable Care Act than “mend it, don’t end it,” which is now their default position. But what could that be?

Here’s a heretical idea. Rather than parsing the individual elements of the law, and trying to persuade voters on an à la carte basis, what about raising the stakes and defending the reform in its entirety as a historic effort to provide affordable health-care coverage to tens of millions of hard-working Americans who otherwise couldn’t afford it? Instead of shying away from the populist and redistributionist essence of the reform, which the White House and many Democrats in Congress have been doing since the start, it’s time to embrace it.

What would that mean? It would involve reaching out to the Democratic Party’s core voters—lower-income people, minorities, highly educated liberals—and portraying Obamacare as the fulfillment of the great human-rights project that began in the nineteen-thirties, under Franklin D. Roosevelt, and was expanded during the nineteen-sixties, under Lyndon Johnson. That message wouldn’t merely be more honest; it would be more effective in getting Democratic voters to turn out in November, which is essential if the Party isn’t to suffer a repeat of 2010.

More: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2014/03/its-time-for-democrats-to-embrace-obamacare.html






napkinz

(17,199 posts)
49. The GOP’s Staggering Failure: A Full 64% Of Americans Love Their Obamacare! (Video)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:35 PM
Mar 2014

Christine Von Trap
March 14, 2014

Despite the Republicans spending millions of tax dollars trying to repeal Obamacare no less than 50 TIMES, the healthcare law seems to be surging in terms of popularity, along with the President himself. An impressive 64% of Americans now either support the Affordable Care Act outright or making minor changes to it. 48% of Americans now support the President as well and the direction he’s taking our country in. That’s up from 42% in November. The statistics of Obamacare and Obama himself are coming from Bloomberg, which isn’t exactly the first site you’d think of when naming a “left leaning blog”. Of course, everyone is aware of the fact that there have been no shortage of lies spread throughout the supposed “liberal media” about the Affordable Care Act. They were obviously attempts to scare those who were either on the fence about it or ignorant of the facts involving the law. Despite all of these detractors and distractions, the law seems to be overcoming them all. I see this as a victory not only for Obama, but for the economy and the country as a whole. There are even some surprising Republicans standing up for it against fellow colleagues who lied about the CBO report’s findings.

The Affordable Care Act, according to the Wall Street Journal, stated the law is actually boosting both consumer spending and personal incomes. This makes sense, of course. The law was designed to save people money so they could spend it on other things. Whether the Republicans like it or not, this will have a positive impact on the economy. It just makes fiscal and economic sense.






http://aattp.org/the-gops-staggering-failure-a-full-64-of-americans-love-their-obamacare-video/







LWolf

(46,179 posts)
51. I'd prefer not to be dishonest.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

The ACA is about insurance, not care. It's perfectly possible, and quite common to have insurance but not get care, because paying for insurance doesn't always leave enough for those pesky copays and deductibles.

That's why I, a Democrat, am not now, and never have been, "for" the ACA. I'm for universal non-profit national CARE. I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to ignore those people who still can't afford care.

I understand the need to keep Democrats in office in '14. I'd rather campaign on something real. Health CARE isn't it.

I'm consistent; I'm not going to turn into a cheerleader for things I don't really think all that much of just for campaign season.

What else is there to campaign on?

Not education. Not trade. I'm digging here. Gay marriage. That's what I've got.

Thankfully, I can easily campaign for my Democratic Senator on his record, which is better than the average party line. I don't have to wax hypocritical about the ACA.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
53. ***Democrats the party with heart, because the other party is heartless.***
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

easy message. effective. many examples to show in Ads. Stop running from the victories, that will get the base out to vote. Stop being milktoast...Triple down on progressive..Go Elizabeth Warren on them, DeBlasio, go Bernie Sanders on them, stop being ashamed of the base, Democrats!

Democrats heart, Immigration reform.

Democrats heart, increasing the minimum wage

Democrats heart, Marriage equality...


list goes on...positive and to the point.

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