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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWant to win in 2014 -Simple Dems - get those ads going showing people
by hospital beds, at funerals and in graveyards as their relatives die for lack of health care
Every ad must end in a simple phrase - why would any party representing their constituents be against the Affordable Care Act.
Maybe we should have our own Youtube competition to get these ads going.
Anything ReTHUGs can do we can do - and much better.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)The louder the outrage, the better the ads are for Democrats. The quieter Republicans are, the least effective the ads are. It's that simple.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)...grandma\pa that the GOP never wanted medicade in the first place...
Wash Rinse Repeat... so that everyone knows about the commericial
malaise
(269,045 posts)ReTHUGs are the real death panel.
Beer Snob-50
(6,676 posts)showing snippets of the afp ads with the people bitching about obamacare and then telling what really happened. ie the lady with lukema saying her health care cancelled and the new policy was much more expensive.
Cut to the truth that her costs actually went down.
malaise
(269,045 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Show a segment of the Claim, then cut to a still shot of the liar captioned "The Truth" saying what the real ACA result was, then three or 4 claims and truths, ending with the tag line, "Why believe someone that lies to you ... Why vote for them, either?
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Repeat the lie, then methodically de construct it, and don't be mealy-mouthed about the deconstruction.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)This kind of ad is relatively inexpensive to make and there are probably 30+ people right here at DU that have the talent/ability to make one (or 10) that can be youtubed and facebooked.
But that won't happen.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... if we take DU as a guide, we on the left will be spending our time endlessly complaining about how awful the ACA is because its not Medicare for all.
Apparently, many here think that strategy will help us advance towards such an end, faster than supporting the ACA, and building on it would.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)unemployment extensions for laid off workers.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)number of uninsured dropping. Also, trot out the Alan Grayson line (GOP Plan: Don't get sick. If you do, die quickly).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)either. It's not perfect but it is a start and everyone is talking about healthcare costs now. I just wish that the Dems would get out and say"
DAMN IT!! Mr. President,
When are you going to get out there and defend yourself and your record? And I dont mean preaching to the choir but out there with the folks that have been propagandized into believing that they should hate you. The Sink loss in FL should not have been. FOX News, talk radio, and Koch money should have been beaten with the TRUTH and some facts about how the ACA has already benefited many people especially seniors. Sure they have received rebates and the doughnut hole has been closed
but they dont even know that and for sure they dont know how the ACA made that all possible. I dont know who is on your staff and how much they get paid but they need to use a bit more common sense than political savvy. They need to Palinize your message to the people who vote. Something like this:
Ok, I get that you may not like me or like me as your President but that should not stop you from voting for people who make policies that help you and your loved ones. You are not voting for me anymore, you are voting for yourselves. Just use your own common sense and think about the things you have been told by both sides. Do you really think anyone in this government wants to set up death panels or stop you Social Security? Who would that benefit? The only people who want to see the ACA (or Obamacare as some call it) are the people who will not be able to continue to make more and more money by charging you more and more costs for you health care and those who think that scaring you about the ACA will get them elected because people hate me so much they are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Dont be one of those people. Think for yourself
you are smart enough to read the facts about the ACA. Turn off FOX News and turn off CNN and even turn off MSNBC that seeks to tell the truth about the ACA. Turn them all off. Read for yourself, talk it over with your children and grandchildren. I have faith in you even if you dont have faith in me. I dont personally have anything to lose in this battle but our nation does.
Or this:
I know you have seen those political ads where people say they have been hurt by the ACA. But did you know that the woman
who claims
.. actually found out that she would be paying less under the ACA. Bet no TV ad showed you that
especially on FOX News. Did anyone tell you that when the facts were checked
..X out of Y of those ads were outright lies and the rest were misinformation?
You will have to do this yourself because even the Democrats Also, ask them what they like about the GOP plan? They wont be able to answer because there is none.
This is the kind of stuff seniors can identify with. You need the youth to sign up BUT you need the SENIORS to vote the right people into office who will actually look out for them.
You are going to have to do this for yourself because even the Democrats arent going to help.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)President Obama has been saying very much that exact thing for about the last 4 months.
malaise
(269,045 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Democratic candidates in red states and swing districts that are foolishly ignoring all the good the law has brought, while letting republicans set the tone.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)We need to set the tone of the election season and leave them reeling from it.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)As I said before, don't leave it to the Koch Brothers to create the narrative.
This is OUR story to tell.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Challenge the meme that Reagan was a good president.
Challenge the meme that the 1% are job creators.
Challenge the meme that less government is a good thing.
Challenge the meme that says we need to spend half our national budget on a MIC that fails too damn often.
Challenge every word out of their mouths. If they say "good morning", check your watch and correct them in public every time they are wrong.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Black and white shots of a modest house, bereft dad and kids with the voiceover:
"She knew she was sick, but after we got laid off, we could only find part-time work here and there, and none of those jobs had benefits.
So she never told me how sick she was, until it was too late."
malaise
(269,045 posts)We thought she had a chance until the ReTHUG governor refused the money
and now she's dead- bawling begins
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)"Like millions of Americans, we're too poor to buy insurance, but make too much money to get Medicaid. When I first heard about Obamacare, I was so hopeful -- we'd finally have some insurance, for the first time in years.
Then Governer Perry (or some other red state yahoo) refused to take Federal money to expand Medicaid.
My husband has heart problems. I know he needs to see a doctor, but we can't afford it.
Isn't being poor hard enough without having some politician playing games with our health?"
malaise
(269,045 posts)I insist on bawling
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I think an air of desolation with a tasteful tear or two would work better.
malaise
(269,045 posts)onions will do
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)"When Obamacare passed, I was worried.
I wasn't worried about the law itself, because I knew it would help a lot of people. I was worried that a lot of working people in Kentucky would be left out.
You see, a lot Republican governors were turning down Federal funding to expand Medicaid. That's right; money we've already paid for with our taxes was going to come back to Kentucky to help us see the doctor and stay out of the emergency room.
I'm glad our governor had the sense to accept the money, and I'm glad I finally have insurance again."
malaise
(269,045 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)from Obamacare, especially those that didn't think they would benefit and how had been lukewarm to the law before it was implemented. There are millions of people out in the country that have benefited, they are easier to find than those that claim to not have benefited, it's just republicans are better at finding the negative cases.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)A very RW relative (nurse too) who hates Obamacare.
Her "under-employed" hearing-impaired 28 yr old son was in a serious snowboarding accident in January. She told me he finally got on Obamacare after the accident and is now COVERED for the big medical bills.
I told her she was lucky he didnt live in a red state that refused Medicaid expansion or he (or YOU!) wouldve been stuck with the bills. I havent heard back from her since! I cant believe it but I think she may be a convert now!
Sadly, too often it takes a personal experience for RWers to see the light.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)malaise
(269,045 posts)People identify with sob stories and they know people who would be alive if they had health care.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)[font size="3"](1) a MASSIVE ad campaign sharing ACA success stories[/font]
for example:
http://aattp.org/watch-this-obamacare-success-story-is-what-scares-the-hell-out-of-the-gop-video/
Find the people who are sharing their stories below and do an ad blitz!
https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories
https://twitter.com/ACASuccessStory
http://acasignups.net
[font size="3"](2) a MASSIVE ad campaign focussing on the thousands who will die because Republican governors have refused Medicaid expansion[/font]
[font size="3"](3) remind Americans:[/font]
malaise
(269,045 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
napkinz
(17,199 posts)The Koch Brothers are funding commercials that feature distortions, lies, and bogus claims coming from ignorant victims or political operatives.
Well have REAL PEOPLE, WITH REAL STORIES. Where are our commercials?
Below is a handful of success stories. And there are thousands more! IMAGINE an ad blitz for the next eight months, TV ads that feature these real-life success stories:
source: https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)you some room to get voters.
Respectfully - What a horrible fucking idea. Associate DEMOCRAT with what might be the worst time in their life. And every time they remember that pain, they remember DEMOCRAT. eesh.
Honest truth - I think whether Ds win in 2014 depends more on what they did in 2008. 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 than any ad campaign. Are people running around every day wishing they had health care, or wishing they had a job? Do you think they feel good that they are on food stamps while you saved the banks so it would help those with no money?
One of the things you learn when training animals is that the reward must be something that is valuable to THEM, not you.
But we shall see.
Delmette
(522 posts)They keep dumping millions of dollars to defeat ACA. They have to be gaining something. If we knew what they have up their sleeve, that could be exploited.
malaise
(269,045 posts)THey'd opt for free labor as in slavery if they could
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)'Cause if we believed that, we'd expect our government to provide things like a safety net (which costs money that could otherwise go to the 1% and might give those workers bad ideas about having rights) and regulations on corporations (which interfere with their profits).
It's all about money. The millions of dollars they're dumping on ACA and elections is a fraction of what they hope to make in return.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)They get to control the country without ever running for office and no term limits. Right?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)John Cassidy - TheNewYorker
3/12/14
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024663436
Trying to pussyfoot around Obamacare was an awkward strategy, and, evidently, it didnt work. If other Democrats are to avoid meeting Sinks fate in November, they need something more convincing to say about the Affordable Care Act than mend it, dont end it, which is now their default position. But what could that be?
Heres a heretical idea. Rather than parsing the individual elements of the law, and trying to persuade voters on an à la carte basis, what about raising the stakes and defending the reform in its entirety as a historic effort to provide affordable health-care coverage to tens of millions of hard-working Americans who otherwise couldnt afford it? Instead of shying away from the populist and redistributionist essence of the reform, which the White House and many Democrats in Congress have been doing since the start, its time to embrace it.
What would that mean? It would involve reaching out to the Democratic Partys core voterslower-income people, minorities, highly educated liberalsand portraying Obamacare as the fulfillment of the great human-rights project that began in the nineteen-thirties, under Franklin D. Roosevelt, and was expanded during the nineteen-sixties, under Lyndon Johnson. That message wouldnt merely be more honest; it would be more effective in getting Democratic voters to turn out in November, which is essential if the Party isnt to suffer a repeat of 2010.
More: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2014/03/its-time-for-democrats-to-embrace-obamacare.html
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Christine Von Trap
March 14, 2014
Despite the Republicans spending millions of tax dollars trying to repeal Obamacare no less than 50 TIMES, the healthcare law seems to be surging in terms of popularity, along with the President himself. An impressive 64% of Americans now either support the Affordable Care Act outright or making minor changes to it. 48% of Americans now support the President as well and the direction hes taking our country in. Thats up from 42% in November. The statistics of Obamacare and Obama himself are coming from Bloomberg, which isnt exactly the first site youd think of when naming a left leaning blog. Of course, everyone is aware of the fact that there have been no shortage of lies spread throughout the supposed liberal media about the Affordable Care Act. They were obviously attempts to scare those who were either on the fence about it or ignorant of the facts involving the law. Despite all of these detractors and distractions, the law seems to be overcoming them all. I see this as a victory not only for Obama, but for the economy and the country as a whole. There are even some surprising Republicans standing up for it against fellow colleagues who lied about the CBO reports findings.
The Affordable Care Act, according to the Wall Street Journal, stated the law is actually boosting both consumer spending and personal incomes. This makes sense, of course. The law was designed to save people money so they could spend it on other things. Whether the Republicans like it or not, this will have a positive impact on the economy. It just makes fiscal and economic sense.
http://aattp.org/the-gops-staggering-failure-a-full-64-of-americans-love-their-obamacare-video/
Just seeing that idiot makes me laugh.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
LWolf
(46,179 posts)The ACA is about insurance, not care. It's perfectly possible, and quite common to have insurance but not get care, because paying for insurance doesn't always leave enough for those pesky copays and deductibles.
That's why I, a Democrat, am not now, and never have been, "for" the ACA. I'm for universal non-profit national CARE. I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I'm not going to ignore those people who still can't afford care.
I understand the need to keep Democrats in office in '14. I'd rather campaign on something real. Health CARE isn't it.
I'm consistent; I'm not going to turn into a cheerleader for things I don't really think all that much of just for campaign season.
What else is there to campaign on?
Not education. Not trade. I'm digging here. Gay marriage. That's what I've got.
Thankfully, I can easily campaign for my Democratic Senator on his record, which is better than the average party line. I don't have to wax hypocritical about the ACA.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)easy message. effective. many examples to show in Ads. Stop running from the victories, that will get the base out to vote. Stop being milktoast...Triple down on progressive..Go Elizabeth Warren on them, DeBlasio, go Bernie Sanders on them, stop being ashamed of the base, Democrats!
Democrats heart, Immigration reform.
Democrats heart, increasing the minimum wage
Democrats heart, Marriage equality...
list goes on...positive and to the point.