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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh, hi there, DU! Here is your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Poetics of the Nude...
Some great art of the human body for you to identify today!
And, as always, folks....no cheating...
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Better luck next week
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Not by the way where my name came from, but good guess.
I was a night watcher back in 99, saw the Night Watch in 04.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)to go through the canals of the Netherlands to visit the little towns where the great masters of Dutch art painted. Quite a trip. Mostly fun and inspiration....in fact, I had a real meltdown in the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam with one of his crows in a wheat field...tears came that I could not hold back...
longship
(40,416 posts)"Kama! Kama! Kama Sutra with me!"
Or... Maybe not.
Happy to R&K.
Note: I resisted the attempt to utilize the recently posted art history post that portrays Van Eyck as using Vlad Putin as a model for all human figures, both male and female. The question is... would that be cheating?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Every female face is the same woman.
Love it!
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I love it, too!
Journeyman
(15,038 posts)was the artist by chance Jim Henson?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)note the contraposto...
oops...you said #3...sorry...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Good Eye.
longship
(40,416 posts)Recognized the Medusa theme. The Phineas story is a common art theme. It was just a matter of locating the right one.
Hooray! I got one!!!
This is always fun. Even in loss.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I think Carracci and Domenichino worked on this...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)But it's fun to snag one once in a while.
It's always fun to play, or to just lurk and learn.
Skäl!!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)A warning to fellow and sister solvers: using "nude" in your search terms may be problematic.
One trick I use to exclude a lot of junk from search results is to begin with the term, "classic art."
Hello, CTyankee. I was afraid you'd be so busy preparing for your Tuscany trip that there wouldn't be a Challenge today. I don't know how you find the time to do this, but thankyou!!!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I freakin' love this sculpture...
longship
(40,416 posts)Looks like a kind of Dido and Aeneas theme.
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)I love art but know much less than I wish I did. I can recognize the more well-known artist, but not much more. I have learned a great deal on Fridays.
These are all excellent but I love number 6... that sculpture is breathtaking.... can't wait to find out more about it because I don't have a clue.
Appreciate your efforts to post this every week!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Really beautiful, all.
Although, I like the first one least of all and the last one best of all
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)well
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)regarding the first one and it relates back to something I mentioned in the past ...
for some reason I am thinking that I heard somewhere that a very long time ago only male models were used for Nudes and when I look at Number One ... I can see why that might have been true.
also, maybe I am confusing this with during Shakespeare's time only Male Actors were allowed on stage.
so, I could be conflating the two.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Art modeling as an occupation appeared in the late Renaissance when the establishment of schools for the study of the human figure created a regular demand, and since that time the remuneration offered has ensured a continual supply. However academy models were only men until the 19th Century, as were the students. The status of nude models has fluctuated with the value and acceptance of nudity in art. Maintaining the classical ideals of Greece and Rome into the Christian Era, nudity was prominent in the decoration of Catholic churches in the Renaissance, only to be covered up with draperies or fig leaves by more prudish successors. The Protestant Reformation went even further, destroying many artworks. From being a possibly glamorous occupation celebrating beauty, being a nude model was at other times equivalent to prostitution, practiced by persons without the means to gain more respectable employment. The costumed models used to create historical paintings may not have been a distinct group, since nude studies were done in preparation for any figure painting.
more at link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_%28art%29
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)do you know Bellini or was it the "colore" of the Venetian painters...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I just played cheap detective on this one. It wasn't hard to find.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Florence while the colore school developed in the veneto region. Bellinii is from that region and you can see the effect of color emphasis, greater than drawing or design in Florence at the same time. Titian, Tintoretto and Veronese all are mostly in the "colore" school...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I hadn't heard those terms before.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)He was clearly in love with Joanne Heffernan, who was Whistler's mistress, but I think it would be misinterpreted here.
It is on display in the Louvre. Have you seen it there?
The Maja is in the Prado (Madrid), which is where I saw it. It is a great museum. Have you been there?
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)(My Dad was stationed in London as a Naval attaché, and one summer our folks took the whole family across the Channel to tour the Continent.)
And you are SO right. Posting of the Courbet on DU would result in not the "Origin of the World", but more likely the "End of the World", at least as we know it!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)The colors are so deep where they should be in the foreground..then contrast with
the colors for her skin...a beauty.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)where Bellini painted.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)based on the impression they leave on me..my memory. I'm not trained, obviously, lol.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)way the painting was rendered, with more emphasis on color than on design. That is why the rich color of the painting draws us in.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But I'm drawing a complete blank.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)I found this one just by googling "classical painting cyclops". At first, I'd already gone agoogling for Galatea, while I was searching thru all of the various goddesses trying to figure out #1, but oddly, this painting of her never showed up for me in that search, probably because I also included "putto with torches" along with her name.
#3 is Galatea by Gustave Moreau, oil on wood, ca. 1880.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphemus
The subject of this painting has been taken from the 12th fable of Book XIII in Ovid's Metamorphoses which tells the story of the Cyclops Polyphemus' jealousy over Galatea's love for the shepherd Acis. Gustave Moreau's interest in the theme was revealed by two photographs that he hung in his dining room: one of Raphael's Triumph of Galatea and the other of Sebastiano del Piombo's Polyphemus.
Here, far from illustrating the story, Moreau has gone no further than the first line: "Here is a terrible giant who loves a beautiful nymph". He gives a personal, modern, magical interpretation of the pagan myth, rejecting the anecdotal and concentrating on the opposition between exquisite beauty and hideous ugliness, beauty and the beast, love and disdain. His composition stages a struggle between shadow and light, mineral and liquid, good and evil. Moreau's Polyphemus is nevertheless not an ogre, but a melancholy being, lost in one-eyed contemplation of the inaccessible woman. Galatea, who has taken refuge in a cave too narrow for the giant to enter, is a pearl gleaming in its setting. The change in scale between the two figures is repeated between Galatea and the tiny nereids almost invisible in the lacework of aquatic plants and coral This vegetation looks supernatural but was derived from drawings meticulously copied from a book of marine botany in the Museum d'Histoire Naturelle, where Moreau had registered as an unofficial student in 1879. The rubbed, scratched texture of the oil paint gives the work a precious, enamelled look. The Salon of 1880 was the last in which Moreau took part. Galatea was a triumph there and marked the height of his career.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It is quite beautiful, IMO...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Some of you are going to yourself...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...Miley Cyrus' inspiration for 'I Came in Like a Wrecking Ball'.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)is that thing at that statue's feet a globe or a bowling ball? Is she Fortuna, Venus, or Cleopatra? Is it a large life-size statue or a tiny little figurine?
This is one hard challenge!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But at least I found a use for the Cyrus pic that turned up in my search results.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)which is why I fell off my chair laughing when you posted it!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)she is an allegory of a branch of science, which is the name of this sculpture.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Earlier, I found several similar to the one you've given us but either they didn't have the globe or they were marble. One which sold at Christies not long ago was the most like yours but not quite as exquisite and it was a bronze figure of the Grotticella Venus, artist unknown. Then further googling of "Giambologna's Grotticella Venus" gave me more marbles of that same twisted pose but not your beauty.
So, is this the same one?
http://www.frick.org/exhibitions/hill/5
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)countryjake
(8,554 posts)This is a great challenge, CTyankee. I've now learned the meaning of both "Contraposto" and "Figura Serpentinata" and am soon going to figure out how they differ.
Thank you for giving us this wonderful treasure hunt, I love them all.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)but that's Mannerism for you. I'm not real fond of Mannerism but Giambologna's sculpture is an exception. I think he's wonderful...
elleng
(131,107 posts)Just got here! Hope you're well, yank!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I'm thinking.
elleng
(131,107 posts)Continuez!
me and Julie, at the cottage, via Samsung!!!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)elleng
(131,107 posts)Very pleased.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...
Giambologna became well known for a fine sense of action and movement, and a refined, differentiated surface finish. Among his most famous works are the Mercury (of which he did four versions), poised on one foot, supported by a zephyr. The god raises one arm to point heavenwards, in a gesture borrowed from the repertory of classical rhetoric[2] that is characteristic of Giambologna's maniera.
Giambologna's several depictions of Venus established a canon of proportions and set models for the goddess's representation that were influential for two generations of sculptors, in Italy and in the North. He created allegories strongly promoting Medicean political propaganda, such as Florence defeating Pisa and, less overtly, Samson Slaying a Philistine, for Francesco de' Medici (1562).
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giambologna
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I just knew you were still up looking for her!
Go look at the one at the link that I posted for CTyankee and see what you think. I've now found three different bronze ones with the globe and a whole bunch of marbles without it, but all with that same figura serpentinata that makes her pose distinct.
(on edit)
Okay, I looked yours up and came up with this:
Giambologna: Venus Urania ~ Bronze
Vienna, Kunsthistorisches Museum
Photo courtesy of Museo Nazionale del Bargello
http://www.culturekiosque.com/art/exhibiti/giambologna.html
I think you got it!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I spent a lot of time going through tons of copies and imitations, and I don't know how many different versions Giambologna himself did.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Whew, he must have been really revered to have so many copying him, but she is a beauty!
I've found them all now but for number one and I've spent the better part of the day looking for her. Jeesh, I thought sure she was a detail from a Venus and Adonis depiction, cause of the upside-down torches (sign of death) that putto is holding. With her arm out like that, she seems to be trying to stop someone (or something) and I'm just certain that I can see a tiny bit of more going on, to the far right of the painting.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)so you don't have to go to Paris to see it...
countryjake
(8,554 posts)I know what #6 is but I'm still waiting for her to join in, maybe she'll check back in tomorrow.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)she is a goddess...
countryjake
(8,554 posts)One of the most accomplished artists of her age, heavily influenced by Caravaggio and a great exponent of the early Baroque style. Artemisia Gentileschi was born in 1593 in Rome, the daughter of the artist Orazio Gentileschi, she learnt to paint from a young age. Hanging around his studio, she helped mixing and grinding his paints and sketching and painting with him.
Her first recorded painting was from she was 17 years old, of Suzanne and the Elders and from an early age her trade mark hint at feminine exploitation was suggested. Whilst working with Agoostino Tazzi, Orazio arranged for him to act as tutor to Artemisia and it was during this time that he raped her...
http://www.converse.edu/news-article/2013/03/woman-film-screening-and-discussion-filmmaker-april-9
http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/artemisia-gentileschi/aurora-1627
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)thought it was too easy. Sleeping Nude is very nice too, but Aurora is so dramatic it caught my fancy!
You get Honors in this course, jake!
countryjake
(8,554 posts)while I was trying to find her "Aurora". That one was so "dramatic" that I called my man over to look at it, we both sat here and studied that incredible scene for a long time...I told him that was what I was going to do to him if he didn't quit yapping at me about fixing supper, ha! Of course, I didn't figure out it was the same artist I was looking for, but I did at least think that Aurora was of the Baroque style. I must be learning a little bit.
Thanks again for a good challenge today!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Her Judith is bloodier! Not surprising, given that she was a rape victim as a young woman...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Originally modeled for The Gates of Hell, where it was apparently intended to illustrate a poem from Baudelaire's The Flowers of Evil, this group was abandoned in the final version of The Gates. Rodin gave it a second existence with a title inspired by a story from Ovid's Metamorphoses. The body of Eurydice is recognizable as that of one of the anguished figures that occupy the lintel of The Gates on the left of the Thinker, and it exemplifies Rodin's propensity for exploring the multiple interpretations that a single form can be made to yield. This marble was purchased by Charles T. Yerkes about 1893, beginning what would prove to be more than a century of private collecting of Rodin's sculpture in America.
Metropolitan Museum of Art NYC
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And thanks for posting the background note.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)1. Artemisia Gentileschi - Aurora
2. Giovanni Bellini - Woman Looking Into a Mirror
3. Gustave Moreau - Galatea
4. Giambologna - Venus Urania
5. Annibale Carracci - Perseus and Phineas
6. Rodin - Orpheus and Eurydice
Thanks, CTyankee, for another great Challenge!