And this will be attacked too, with cruel jokes et al

[nadinbrzezinski]

but as the crisis in Europe hopefully does not deepen take a look at that picture. Yes, we humans are that small and insignificant.

Take a good look at this from Carl Sagan.

And as you harass others for your jollies realize that you are actually hurting people. You know who you are. But what happens here is classic cyber bullying.

have a good day, night, what have you. All there is left is silly facebook memes. You already got what you wanted. But you and me are that small and insignificant.

[Vogon_Glory]

1. Queue Up The Galaxy Song

Queue up the Galaxy Song.

This is not to mock anyone, but iI find the Galaxy Song (preferably the Eric Idle version) a reminder of just how utterly insignificant our petty nastiness is in the big picture.

Sometimes I have to joke--otherwise I'd howl in grief or scream in frustration.

--v_g

[AZCat]

3. With a name like "Vogon_Glory"...

I'm surprised you aren't referencing the Total Perspective Vortex instead of The Galaxy Song.

[Drew Richards]

5. Hmmm this should be taken to the accounting dept.

[awoke_in_2003]

22. ...

"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
With my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!"

[eggplant]

28. AAAAUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

NNNNnnnnnggggggggg AAArrrrgggggg LLLLmmmmooorrrrggggghhhh!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

30. Well, at least it isn't

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings

[Fridays Child]

6. It's a nice reminder--done with humor, right? And it's accurate, too.

I remember taking a copy of the lyrics, along with a clip of the song, to my college astronomy instructor. He had not heard it so he really enjoyed it, and he confirmed that the facts in the song are quite accurate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Should I reach for a flower printed towel now?

[AZCat]

15. Make sure you pick the right end to suck on.

Me, I like the anti-depressants. But some people like Bar-B-Q sauce or wheatgerm...

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Ah anti depressants, GOODY

Now where did I leave all the fish? Tonight I wish I could follow those dolphins

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. By the way DO NOT read poetry

[Vogon_Glory]

79. It would be so nice to have a live reading

It would be so nice to have a live Vogon poetry reading, one on EIB, Hannity, or the Savage Nation , where the moderator is incapacitated and no off or mute buttons between the vogon and the airwaves.

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. Lmao

[csziggy]

49. Eric Idle and The Galaxy Song!

[Fridays Child]

2. Not up on the issue you seem to be referring to but...

...thanks for the Sagan clip. His observations are always timely and relevant, somehow. I miss him.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh the usual personal attacks that are allowed to fly in this place

it is getting real old.

[PowerToThePeople]

20. I know, right?

Just the other day someone came and attacked me, even though I had not ever said anything to or about them. They basically claimed that everything that I said, everything that I believe strongly in, was not worth shit - just because I did not stand in an occupy encampment a couple of winters ago. This particular attacker, knows nothing of the place I live, whether or not we even had a occupy movement of any regards here or any personal happenings in my life at the time. All that mattered to this "holier than thou" persona, was I did not occupy, they did. I needed to shut up and kiss their feet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Welcome to my ignore list

since that was not an attack, it was a valid question. Have a good day

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. No, it was an attack

because you said:

I thought so.

Have a good day, and by the way, your handle is irony on steroids.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024533454#post51

Seeing that, we know that this entire thread is "irony on steroids." You're no innocent when it comes to attacking DUers.

[SidDithers]

46. Nailed it...

Especially that last bit.



Sid

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. I will publicly offer an apology to you

And promptly put you back on ignore. Not because we do not have a lot in common, but because I fear there will be more misunderstandings in the future. And I hate to hurt people, I really do. So I will lead by example and put you on ignore to avoid any further misunderstandings.

Good luck in any future endeavors you engage in. I do not want you to think I have any interest in cyber stalking or hurting your feelings.

I just wish the people who engage in that activity would just put me on ignore. Last night, out of disgust with this site, I removed a bunch of posts I made on the Crimean situation, which were news clips, and a comment on CNN covering what I consider a non news item in the middle of a crisis.

I will continue to recuse myself from this site.

But seriously good luck and my sincere apologies.

[OilemFirchen]

51. Wow. A Preemptive Ignore Proclamation.

Is this an internet first?

[dionysus]

129. at long last would you climb down off your cross? geez. nt

[GoneOffShore]

130. Probably not going to climb down. Likes the view apparently.

And has since signing up.

[dionysus]

4. did something you posted cause a kerflunkle?

[Brother Buzz]

7. ..........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023926736#post7

[hrmjustin]

11. I am sorry that you were insulted tonight. It was just mean spirited and uncalled for.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. It is not just tonight, it is almost every night

And it continues.

[hrmjustin]

14. And the jury didn't help. when I saw that result and the comments I was shocked.

I know you weren't but I was.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Why I continue to say the system is beyond broken

and it allows some folks to get away with cyber bullying and cyber stalking. No I am not surprised by those results. They are par for the course, it is DU.

[newfie11]

37. My ignore list grows daily

But my aggravation has cleared up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. Mine has as well, you really do not want to know the size of it

But the small group of cyber stalkers has still derailed threads on health and safety.

It is a small group, but they still, even though they know they are ignore, follow like good bullies.

The adage of ignore them and they will go away does not work in school, or on Internet sites.

Why it should not be tolerated. I know this is encouraged, which makes it ten times as bad than the principal just ignoring it. What they want is for me to leave. They mostly got their wish. I will further reduce my participation on this site, and i fully expect that participation to be attacked anyway.

Bullies will do what bullies will do. They get their jollies from hurting people. That is the truth.

[newfie11]

92. Yes you are right

They get away with it but my blood pressure stays down.

[nadinbrzezinski]

98. I find it to be comedy gold

This is a this is what they are doing, and here they are.

It is funny in a tragic way.

[malaise]

144. +1,000 n/t

[JDPriestly]

32. Keep your chin up, nadine. You are one of my favorites. Just send me a DU e-mail and if I am

on DU, I will come to your support. Your friend, JD.

[markpkessinger]

139. I will second that! n/t

[defacto7]

33. I'm also sorry nadin. Why people make

flippant encrypted remarks as if it's the expected Internet recourse du jour is simply arrogant. They are the people who want the world to fit in their perfectly unorganized mishmash of Internet garble and bask in their own socio-political genius knowing they are the only real humans with a brain. I'm sure even nematodes have a relative Intelligence quotient that would categorize as genius... for a nematode.

Speak up nadin and share your point of view. Symbolically ignore those ingenious nematodes.

[Skittles]

38. ? put those assholes on Ignore, nadin

f*** them

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. They are

They still derail threads and all that.

[Vattel]

13. People are full of themselves. I know I am, but I am not cruel when it comes down to it.

Some people are cruel, of course. But discussion boards like this offer people not only a chance to discuss politics, but also a chance to vent their anger towards anonymous strangers who can't really hurt them. It can be an alternative to barking at your spouse or being mean to your kids or pets. Even on a discussion board people should be kinder, of course, but life is tough.

Thanks for the reminder not to be petty. I need reminders like that once in a while.

[Logical]

18. What post started this? nt

[longship]

21. Happy to R&K, for both a loyal DUer and Carl. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. cant wait for Dyson's non series

if I mention that here, it will get attacked. But damn, it will be a nice change of programing.

From now on I will assume that anything I post will be attacked, automatically. So will post silly shit from now on.

I think this was the last "deep" post. No use mostly, we have a group of cyberstalkers that get their jollies in attacking people, if they did that and were put under some kind of control that would be tolerable. But this is worst than High School

[Isoldeblue]

25. You're no slouch in the

snarky put-down department yourself, Nadine.

[rhett o rick]

26. So your point is that she deserves to be bullied? Isnt that always what they say when

they bully? "They deserved it."

[Isoldeblue]

121. There you go, putting words in my

mouth. That was not my point and you damned well know it wasn't. Far, far from it.

What you're doing by posting that to me is bullying, by the fucking way.
Plus it's none of your business.

If you're going to challenge someone, at least be straight and honest about it.

[rhett o rick]

123. Ok, let's recap. Nadin was pointing out that we have bullies here. And your comment was

"You're no slouch in the snarky put-down department yourself, Nadine." That sounds to me like you are explaining to her that she has no room to complain about bullying because she is "no slouch in the snarky put-down department".

Now what words did I put in your mouth?

[Isoldeblue]

126. All of it.

I never said the word bully. Read my post and try getting it right, instead of making it mean more than what I said. If she feels hurt by some people's remarks, she may need to look closer at what she says to others. And I am not the only that feels that way about her.

Buh-by. I am not going to get into it with you. It has nothing to do with you and I don't owe you any defense of what I said. So take your drama shit and put it back where it came from....

[Isoldeblue]

100. Did I say that? Did I use that word? NO!

So don't go putting words in my mouth! My beef is not with you and I'm sure Nadin can take care of herself, without your help. Btw, there's a large difference between being a bully and making snarky remarks that sometimes offend.

[hrmjustin]

101. Fair enough you didn't say bully. But she gets bullied.

[Isoldeblue]

103. As many of us do. Even here on DU. She is not exceptional in that. n/t

[hrmjustin]

104. Some have made it their mission to give her a hard time.

I wish they would just put her on ignore.

[Isoldeblue]

110. I've had her on ignore.

But I still see their OPs' and felt the need to respond to this one. She probably has me on ignore as well. Even though I never said a negative word to her.
As I said, this is between her and me. You are not her guardian.

I'm not the one complaining in an OP about people hurting me. But since you're such a good friend obviously; maybe you make a friendly suggestion that she not throw stones in a glass house, is all I'm saying.. If she can dish it out, she should be able to take it sometimes.

[hrmjustin]

113. I never claimed to be her guardian.

[Isoldeblue]

115. Then stop acting like you want to be.

I do not have to defend myself to you or anyone, for what I first posted here. If anyone felt bullied, it was me, by your first post to me. You don't know the details and it's none of your business. So you were out of line. And I didn't need this.

[hrmjustin]

116. Please accept my apologies if my defense of her crossed a line with you.

[Isoldeblue]

119. Accepted

Thank you.

[freshwest]

31. What's not to like about Sagan? Great pic. Don't know why it's said to be a downer. n/t

[Isoldeblue]

102. Not a thing FW

I love Sagan. It's about Nadin feeling offended. It doesn't seem as if I'm the only one who is doing a WTH?

[DeSwiss]

27. K&R

- Chaos is required for the veils to fall down.

[defacto7]

34. The vastness of the universe

the insignificance of our personal mass only magnifies the point that we have so little to work with and time is almost nonexistent. How can our tiny human organisms have time to waste hurting each other?

If there is a deity, mine is Carl.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. If there is reincarnation I hope he comes back

as a great Alien who comes to scold puny humans for their we are at the center of all belief.

[freshwest]

105. +1

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. For the most part they have

I am even reconsidering posting health and safety, including amber alerts, on this site. In fact, I am reconsidering posting.

These jokers are not corporatist though. That is not what they are.

They enjoy hurting people, they make light of natural disasters, they enjoy the pain of people things like that. The term you are searching for starts with a P, not a C.

Yesterday they not only engaged in cruel personal attacks which juries allowed to stand, but attacked news clips from Reuters, AP and BBC, which in disgust I removed. I know this is enabled, if not outright encouraged.

After over ten years this is getting real old.

[Fumesucker]

39. You have done your share of dumping on people Nadine

I remember right after Obama's second inaugural when you wrote an OP that took a huge smug steaming dump on anyone who was made uncomfortable by all the religious folderol surrounding that event.

As you sow so shall ye reap.

[pintobean]

41. She self deleted a bunch of posts

last night. So, she played no part in anything. It's everybody else.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024591909
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024592848
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024593080
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024592034
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024593127
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024593337
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024592892
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024594665

[jeff47]

42. Pedantic: We're actually in a barred spiral galaxy (nt)

[SidDithers]

47. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=2641

Sid

[giftedgirl77]

90. That's fuckin priceless...

[freshwest]

106. No doubt that inspired it. Don't understand half the stuff, myself, so I avoid it. n/t

[GoneOffShore]

132. A Bazinga, Sid.

Or "A hit. A palpable hit."

[QC]

137. !

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1259455

[SidDithers]

140. Because zombie trolls never try to come back to DU...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=310481&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=312563&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=312319&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=287031&sub=trans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=311888&sub=trans
etc.

If you've never served on MIRT, you'd have no idea how many times previously banned DUers try to get back in. There are former DUers who've had literally dozens of zombie accounts. One might create 10 new accounts every single day.

And there are a bunch who are still here, after being given a second, or third, chance.

It's usually pretty obvious who they are. Sometimes they get to stay. Sometimes they get banned. Almost all the time, it's a purely subjective Admin decision whether they stay or go.

Sid

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Oh and this is for the folks this was directed at.

Thanks for proving my point, in spades.

You are all so not funny, and predictable. You do enjoy hurting people and the cyberstalking, don't you? I know you do. It's a special group that enjoys hurting people.

You all were late at the empathy distribution line, somewhere you lost your ability to feel what others feel. One has to wonder where? I have no doubts you were children bullies and now you engage in it as well. I have no doubt of that.

And the bullying is tolerated, just like School.

Thanks for proving the point. I should have bet the house you were going to attack, since predictably you proved me right.

[B2G]

52. Get down off the cross

We need the wood.

[hrmjustin]

54. There people here who bully her.

[B2G]

56. And she invites much of it

In fact, I think she actually enjoys the attention.

[hrmjustin]

57. No she does not.

Blaming the victim is disgusting.

[B2G]

59. If she were an actual 'victim' I would agree

But since she's not, I don't.

[hrmjustin]

60. We are done.

[B2G]

61. Good

[tammywammy]

64. This seems an appropriate response

Skinner (59,011 posts)
I'm going to be blunt.

The problem here isn't the jury system. The problem is you. Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually most DUers figure out how to get along with other DUers. My suggestion is that you try to do it too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=2641

[hrmjustin]

66. Is that an excuse by people to say whatever they want to her.

[tammywammy]

67. You want to know what got me on her "iggy" list?

It was either the time I corrected her that there's 100cm in a meter. She was insistent that wasn't true. Or it was when she reported about the "soldier" that moved into Syria and I asked for proof.

That's what gets you on her "iggy" list - correcting her or asking for proof. When you breathlessly post that there was 4 feet of hail (!!) don't be surprised/shocked/rude when other posters question you. Or when you say a soldier from San Diego is part of an invasion into Syria, when the truth is he wasn't a soldier or in the military but pulled one over on her. And then the failure to even acknowledge that she could possibly be wrong - no wonder people don't put up with her shit. Her constant whining that people are mean to her, she throws it out just as well.

Nadine's problem is Nadine, but it's easy to blame it on all the other posters on here. And if she has the big "iggy" list that she proclaims, why the fuck does she care what people say? She says the "bullies" are on ignore, yet then comes and complains about being bullied. Give me a break.

[hrmjustin]

71. While we all have our faults and she admits hers people here, I am not saying you,

will say the nastiest things to her.

Sorry but there are people here who hate her and use any excuse to pounce on her.

[tammywammy]

76. I have never seen Nadine admit fault

Just like the hail issue, the thread was full of everyone is just picking on her for asking for proof there were 3-4 feet of hail. Or the Polk thing. She never admits that she was wrong.

I don't think anyone hates her. I think a large number of posters caught on to her schtick and her nastiness and are tired of placating her. Nadine's problem is Nadine.

[hrmjustin]

80. We disgree and there are things I can say that I have seen but it would start a war with some

members I have no desire to tangle with.

Nadine is my friend and a good person and I will defend her to the max.

[pintobean]

78. Have you ever jumped her shit for anything?

You run through these threads jumping people's shit all the time. I've never seen you say anything negative to her. It's like you've appointed yourself her protector, and you're totally blind to what she does.

[hrmjustin]

81. I talk to her almost daily.

[pintobean]

82. That didn't even come close to answering my question.

[hrmjustin]

83. If I disagree with her or if I think she is wrong I let her know. I am not a yes person.

[zappaman]

85. How did you feel about her calling DU a "cesspool"?

And that she had more respect for the guy who runs Free Republic than Skinner when she joined in with Taverner on the DU Facebook page?
How did you feel when she said in Meta that she didn't care if DUers on her ignored list died?
Did you disagree with her on those points?

[hrmjustin]

86. I am not a member of that fb page.

Skinner and Nadin know I love this site.

And yes I I did tell her I dislkied what she said in that meta thread.

[zappaman]

91. Nor am I

Thanks to every poster there ragging on DU, like Nadin certainly was, a new group was started to actually reflect DU and not just tear it down.
But while it was up, you could read nasty shit about DUers by former and bitter DUers.
Why someone who thinks DU is a "cesspool" wastes their time posting here is beyond me.

[Isoldeblue]

127. I have never said a negative word to her.

When I was still new here, I posted to an OP (not Nadin's) my opinion, concerning our POTUS, stated simply and politely. I was not inviting confrontation or expecting a challenge. But along comes Nadin with a nasty put-down and snark for what I said. I replied, saying that I had a right to my opinion. She replies, "Oh, did I hurt your feelings?" I said actually yes, I was offended and asked why she felt the need to put me down that way, for an issue we disagreed on. She never responded. That was when I knew that she was a hit and run type. Smack them down but don't hang around for an honest discussion. She chose not to take responsibility for her words. I began seeing her do this to others, as well. So I put her on ignore. Til yesterday.

Many here have had issues with her tone and dumping on others for their opinion. So when I see her spout about hurt feeling, etc, I had to say something. I think she enjoys the drama and then have some try to make her feel better, by acting like the victim.

There. I guess I feel better for saying my piece. I won't be responding to any more of her gang's defense of her.

I do want to make it clear that I was grateful for the way our discussion ended. Thanks for that.

[sad-cafe]

96. this 1000%

the condescending "I am right no matter what" attitude

Then the poor me attitude when someone points out mistakes


She is no victim. If it is so bad here, she could just leave but no, she likes the attention.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

107. calling Nadin a victim is disgusting

and willfully ignorant of her treatment of the very people she 'claims' attacked her... if you point out that she is factually incorrect you are attacking her... regardless of how you do it. she is the perfect martyr and people like you just encourage her garbage.

sP

[hrmjustin]

108. There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and the high school behavior of

some. As I said I know we all have faults but some of the stuff I seen is just plain old high school behavior.

If people feel she is wrong then they should come out and say it. I have told her I thought she was wrong before.

But there are people that go over a line and hate her.

I defend her because I am friendly with her and like her.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

109. and she doesn't seem to know the difference

any disagreement with her is a personal attack in her world ... and if you say you haven't seen it, then you haven't been paying attention.

sP

[hrmjustin]

111. Well people can ignore her if they dislike her. I for one like her.

[pintobean]

112. Treating this community

with disdain is not a fault; it's willful bad behavior. Skinner's ATA quote was not a revelation for anyone, he just stated a fact that most of us have known for years.
When she treats the community like shit, people respond to that. You've stated that you love it here, yet you defend a person who dumps on us regularly.

[hrmjustin]

114. I defend a friend and I don't think anyone questions how I feel about this place.

I have made clear my appreciation of this place.

I will also defend my friends when I think they need defending.

[pintobean]

117. Maybe you should tell your friend

the same thing Skinner told her. Maybe she'll listen to you. Telling everyone else to shut up and put up with her isn't going to work.

[hrmjustin]

118. She knows what he said. And I never told you or anyone here to shut up.

[pintobean]

120. You haven't used those words

but it comes across loud and clear.

[hrmjustin]

122. Welll let make my opinion clear.

I am not telling people not to respond and say she is wrong or that a tatic she does is wrong. That is perfectly normal to say a person is wrong. I get told that all the time here as I am sure you and most other active poster do. What bothers me is some who out and out make fun of her.

No one is perfect but I befriended her because I dislike how some here and elsewhere have treated her.

[pintobean]

124. We're going in circles.

Good luck with that friendship.

[hrmjustin]

125. Thank you.

[LiberalAndProud]

128. And elsewhere.

That site reeks.

[dionysus]

131. it's not merely "disagreeing" with somebody when they post wildly innacurate or made up stuff

and lash out when caught doing so. the realm of true vs untrue lies in facts, not opinions to be debated.

IE, the 3 meters of hail incident.

[defacto7]

135. For the record,

I agree with everything you've said in this thread concerning nadine and it couldn't be better said so I won't try to say more. Thanks for standing up for her.

[hrmjustin]

136. It is a pleasure to stand up for a friend! Thanks for the encouragement!

I needed it.

[Logical]

69. Please link to the posts, I want bet see if it is true! nt

[NM_Birder]

87. paper thin skin,

and views anything less than 100% agreement, as "ignorant bullying tactics".

[hrmjustin]

88. I am not talking about people she disagrees with.

I am talking about people who make it a point to go after her all the time.

[NM_Birder]

89. This entire thread,

is a big "everybody is against me" call-out. Although it's always groovy to see anything Sagan did.
Not clear what fun is to be made of this thread, what is she talking about ? I'd ask, but made her list when I dared voice my opinion.

[sad-cafe]

99. this is spot on

I think people are tired of the condescending know it all attitude. When she is asked for facts to back up her claims she takes the victim stance. Then goes on to post how cruel people are to her. No one is cruel, no one bullies her, people are just tired of it!

[cali]

50. Here's my "cruel joke": Groundhog Day.

Oh, and this is as silly as anything you've ever posted.

[B2G]

53. Everyone pack your bags

Nadin is taking us all on a guilt trip.

[dionysus]

65. some people don't do too well when they finally realize the weren't edward r murrow after all...

[LongTomH]

55. Thanks for the OP, Nadine! Carl always did a brilliant job of putting our petty hates and likes....

......into a cosmic perspective, where they seem laughingly insignificant!

As for some of the vicious comments, I have noticed in recent years that there has been a general coarsening of discourse. That's especially true on the internet, where people do not have to face the people they're attacking; but, it seems to be true everywhere. It may be due largely to the influence of the preachers of hate like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. There may be other factors, like the stresses everyone experiences in this social-Darwinist economy, meaner than a junkyard dog.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. There are studies that point to why people attack on the Internet

There is also a growing body of work of cyber bullying, it started with children. Now we have work on it with adult sites. This place, if any researcher is reading, is a gold mine.

And I am a fan of Carl as well. Can't wait for the relaunch of the non series that was taken from. After all since I posted it, the usual suspects will attack it. Hell, they went after quotes from Reuters and BBC yesterday

If I post it, it will be attacked. I can bet the house on it.

[B2G]

68. How can you see these attacks,

since we're all on ignore?

[winter is coming]

138. That's the part I don't get.

When I put someone on ignore, they stay on ignore. I don't think about them. I don't talk about them. I don't give a shit what they're doing.

DU is big. There are bound to be people who get up my nose, and people I offend, as well. Why not use ignore to filter them out and move on?

[Logical]

72. You sound paranoid to me. links would help. nt

[dionysus]

63. how many riffles could a riffle chucker chuck if a riffle chucker could chuck riffles?

[Drew Richards]

70. Carl really does put it in perspective...i get a kick everytime I hear him say billions and billions

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. Yes, yes he does

He was a gift. He also once said something else, I paraphrase, the study of astronomy is humbling. . Indeed it is. We are puny, on a puny speck, around an unremarkable star.

[Drew Richards]

77. Indeed another one that gives me pause.

[sufrommich]

73. What an odd thread title. nt

[cinnabonbon]

93. Carl Sagan was a treasure. I think that

most of us on DU can appreciate how wonderful he was, without trying to attack each other.

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. He was. I liked his books

I discovered him through Cosmos. It is due to him that I developed my deep love for astronomy. I am looking forwards to the next iteration of the series. I will not even go when it is going to air. Mostly if I do...

As to the attacks. If I post it, they will attack. It is a sad comment on these folks really.

[snooper2]

94. Is this a meta thread?

[sad-cafe]

133. could be

what do you think?

[randome]

95. "This isn't a game! This is hockey!"

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[B Calm]

141. Who took the picture?

[nadinbrzezinski]

142. Probably a deep space satellite, we have a few now, like Hubble

[B Calm]

143. That's deep man!

[nadinbrzezinski]

145. Was it intended?

You asked a question, I gave you an answer.

here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_observatories

[Brother Buzz]

146. Hubble is not a deep space satellite

What's more, the Hubble can not take a reasonable photograph of the earth without first installing corrective lenses.