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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:57 PM Feb 2014

Man Fatally Shoots Himself While Teaching Gun Safety To Girlfriend

DANIEL STRAUSS – FEBRUARY 24, 2014, 5:15 PM EST

A Michigan man fatally shot himself in the head while he was teaching his girlfriend gun safety, according to The Detroit Free Press.

The man shot himself Sunday in his home in Independence Township, according to The Oakland County sheriff's office. He was pronounced dead at the scene according to the Detroit newspaper.

Police said that the man, whose name was not released, had been trying to show his girlfriend gun safety with three pistols. He put the first two guns to his head and pulled the trigger. When the man pulled the trigger on the third pistol the gun went off.

The man's girlfriend said he had been drinking throughout the day while he was showing her the guns.

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Man Fatally Shoots Himself While Teaching Gun Safety To Girlfriend (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
um, sorry he's dead . But that was just foolish. SummerSnow Feb 2014 #1
Isn't the FIRST RULE of gun safety "assume it's loaded, and don't point it"? arcane1 Feb 2014 #12
Yep, it's called muzzle awareness that you never point giftedgirl77 Feb 2014 #31
Unless, of course, you've been drinking.... Walk away Feb 2014 #55
i guess that's what i don't get about alcohol and stupid people.. as drunk as i have ever been, i'd dionysus Feb 2014 #59
Or maybe you might get so drunk that you forget that rule! Walk away Feb 2014 #62
as drunk as i could ever be, i'd never play with guns, let alone point one at my head. trust me. dionysus Feb 2014 #63
I'm sure most of them would agree with you if... Walk away Feb 2014 #64
nominee for the Darwin Award? nt Deep13 Feb 2014 #2
Booze and gunz, what could go wrong? Warpy Feb 2014 #3
or not. Schema Thing Feb 2014 #4
I'm a terrible person. Demobrat Feb 2014 #5
Dude was putting guns to his head and pulling the trigger? temporary311 Feb 2014 #6
Err you do NOT point a gun at your head nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #7
He won't do that again Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #8
Gunnerz aren't known to be the sharpest tools in the shed. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #15
This drunken idiot was certainly stupid seveneyes Feb 2014 #22
Whoopsie! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #9
then he was clearly doing it wrong Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #10
LOL! Politicalboi Feb 2014 #11
Widowmaking 101 Blue Owl Feb 2014 #13
Alcohol may have been involved ..... Lil Missy Feb 2014 #14
"Whatever you do, never do this, sweetheart." longship Feb 2014 #16
That's a lesson she'll never forget. tanyev Feb 2014 #17
Third time's the charm GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2014 #18
That's the ultimate lesson in gun safety Beaverhausen Feb 2014 #19
At least he removed himself from the gene pool. RC Feb 2014 #20
Thinning the herd. nt City Lights Feb 2014 #21
Just another day in gun culture. nt onehandle Feb 2014 #23
a teachable moment to be sure frylock Feb 2014 #24
Win, win. Coyotl Feb 2014 #25
That's some GP6971 Feb 2014 #26
Let's quickly review his gun safety course: struggle4progress Feb 2014 #27
Oops, not an Onion headline n/t lordsummerisle Feb 2014 #28
He was obviously demonstrating the traumatic consequences of failing to follow Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #29
A couple things.... Mojo Electro Feb 2014 #30
My dad always taught me that you should never point a gun at anyone or anything at any time kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #32
Yep... deutsey Feb 2014 #49
It could have been worse. He could have coerced his girl friend to put the guns to his SDjack Feb 2014 #33
Rule #1: (all together class)... Deep13 Feb 2014 #34
Darwin award nominee....... Historic NY Feb 2014 #35
Darwinism Sienna86 Feb 2014 #36
I feel sorry for that poor woman. thucythucy Feb 2014 #37
To be fair, so did he. Orrex Feb 2014 #40
True. But if my boyfriend had been drinking all day... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #42
Could be. thucythucy Feb 2014 #48
Her 3 kids were in the home too, Blue Diadem Feb 2014 #60
Maybe she's smarter than the average bear. Demobrat Feb 2014 #38
And it only took him three tries. Orrex Feb 2014 #39
Third time's a charm Incitatus Feb 2014 #43
Or perhaps... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #56
He was trying to show her gun safety... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #41
Well, at least the safety lesson was probably effective. n/t Crunchy Frog Feb 2014 #44
He must have really loved her. MoonchildCA Feb 2014 #45
What a HORRIFYING thing for that poor woman to have to witness! Condolences to his family and Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #46
Pointing a gun at your head AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #47
Yeah, I wouldn't exactly describe what he was doing as "teaching gun safety." Brickbat Feb 2014 #50
She's lucky she's not dead instead. tridim Feb 2014 #51
gun safety kills! we should ban all gun safety training! unblock Feb 2014 #52
I'm sorry, but guns are NOT safe. chrisa Feb 2014 #53
The two or three gun nuts I've known all called their guns, "Their toys". tridim Feb 2014 #61
Guns and alcohol MissMillie Feb 2014 #54
as is pointing a gun (or 3!) at your head Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #57
yeah, that too (n/t) MissMillie Feb 2014 #58

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. um, sorry he's dead . But that was just foolish.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:59 PM
Feb 2014

Who puts a gun to their head and pulls the trigger to teach gun safety? Oh he was drinking.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
12. Isn't the FIRST RULE of gun safety "assume it's loaded, and don't point it"?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:15 PM
Feb 2014

I've never even fired a gun but I know that much!

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
31. Yep, it's called muzzle awareness that you never point
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:49 PM
Feb 2014

it at anyone & you always clear it & check the chamber.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
59. i guess that's what i don't get about alcohol and stupid people.. as drunk as i have ever been, i'd
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:12 PM
Feb 2014

never think of playing with a gun, let alone pointing it at my own goddamn head!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
62. Or maybe you might get so drunk that you forget that rule!
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:49 PM
Feb 2014

I doubt that this guy would have posted that he would do something so stupid when he was sober.
I'll bet he would write about the same thing you just did....and now look!

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
63. as drunk as i could ever be, i'd never play with guns, let alone point one at my head. trust me.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:54 PM
Feb 2014


edit: it's like the people who get drunk and end up wrapping their car around a telephone pole doing 100. if I'm drinking I... just don't drive. I don't understand how people do these stupid things...

temporary311

(955 posts)
6. Dude was putting guns to his head and pulling the trigger?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:02 PM
Feb 2014

Considering the tenuous definition of gun safety he had, his girlfriend should probably be glad he wasn't pointing them at her and pulling the trigger.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Err you do NOT point a gun at your head
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:02 PM
Feb 2014

they are ALWAYS loaded! Even if you think they are not, they are ALWAYS loaded.

Dumbshit!!!

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
10. then he was clearly doing it wrong
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:11 PM
Feb 2014

at leats time the victim was the "teacher" and not the students as in the suicide bomb lesson in Iraq.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
11. LOL!
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:14 PM
Feb 2014

What an idiot. She's lucky he didn't shoot her instead. Better to get rid of "future" parents like this.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
19. That's the ultimate lesson in gun safety
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:21 PM
Feb 2014

you all aren't giving him enough credit. I assume his girlfriend will never point a loaded gun at her own head and pull the trigger.

struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
27. Let's quickly review his gun safety course:
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:41 PM
Feb 2014

(1) Alcohol is a safe relaxant to use when handling guns

(2) To assume a gun is loaded, just because you don't know otherwise, is a logical fallacy, known to logicians as argumentum ad ignorantiam. Do not commit this fallacy! You should assume instead a gun is unloaded until you know for sure otherwise

(3) The idea, that it is unsafe to point a gun at something, is a myth started by gun control nuts

(4) Manly men can best show their superiority to their hysterical screechy girlfriends by pointing guns and pulling the triggers

(5) Recent statistics prove that two guns out of every three will not discharge when pointed at your head

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
29. He was obviously demonstrating the traumatic consequences of failing to follow
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:45 PM
Feb 2014

the rules of firearm safety in a way that would make a lasting impression.

Too many puns to even begin...

Mojo Electro

(362 posts)
30. A couple things....
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:46 PM
Feb 2014

Terribly sorry for this man. But.

"Police said that the man...had been trying to show his girlfriend gun safety.."


"...He put the first two guns to his head and pulled the trigger."


So....

"...gun safety...."


"...guns to his head and pulled the trigger."








 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
32. My dad always taught me that you should never point a gun at anyone or anything at any time
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:37 PM
Feb 2014

unless you fully intended to kill them.

That's the only gun lesson I remember. It stuck.

Guess this guy's dad must have been a bit lax in the lesson department.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
33. It could have been worse. He could have coerced his girl friend to put the guns to his
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:39 PM
Feb 2014

head etc. Then, she would be facing murder charge. So, let's cut the guy a little slack for thinking of her.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
42. True. But if my boyfriend had been drinking all day...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:27 PM
Feb 2014

the LAST thing we'd be doing is having a lesson in gun safety. Maybe she had been drinking all day as well, with her judgment impaired.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
48. Could be.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 11:56 AM
Feb 2014

One never knows. Could be too she was scared shitless, having a drunk boyfriend waving a gun around, and agreed to anything he said just not to get shot. Either way, it must have been awful afterwards.

I've never personally seen anyone shot, for any reason, but I certainly know people who have. All of them were traumatized, some worse than others, depending on the circumstances. Whatever the case, I hope she gets the help she needs.

Best wishes.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
45. He must have really loved her.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:53 AM
Feb 2014

He made the ultimate sacrifice just to show her what not to do.

What a great guy...

he used to be.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
46. What a HORRIFYING thing for that poor woman to have to witness! Condolences to his family and
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 03:20 AM
Feb 2014

friends who knew and loved him... but what a friggin' IDIOT he was! I wonder if he would have done the same thing had he not been drinking, though? It *is* possible...

I bet that's one lesson she'll NEVER forget, and I hope she gets the proper counseling and/or treatment if she needs it in the future.

Peace,

Ghost

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
53. I'm sorry, but guns are NOT safe.
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

The repeated attempts by gun advocates to cast them as "safe in the right hands" are dangerous at best.

They should always be treated like the dangerous weapons that they are. I've seen so much stooopid from gun owners that I feel like guns aren't given enough respect in this country. This includes someone whose gun was in his pocket, which fell out onto the floor. I mean, really?

There simply is no safe gun. By definition, a gun cannot be safe, much like a machete or chainsaw cannot be safe. If you're going to be a gunowner, treat your gun like a live grenade - it's a weapon that, while fun to shoot and provides protection, is also highly dangerous.

Training doesn't make guns less dangerous. It allows you to compensate for their dangerous nature by handling them with care and taking precautions.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
61. The two or three gun nuts I've known all called their guns, "Their toys".
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:46 PM
Feb 2014

My overdramatic eye roll didn't even phase them. They saw nothing ironic about the term, which IMO is THE problem.

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