If someone is discriminated against because they are a woman, or gay or black, minority, etc...

[CreekDog]

would you say the victim of that discrimination needs to change?

or is it the person or institution actually discriminating that needs to change?

[NYC_SKP]

1. What thread are you referring to?

This one? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024553763

Why not just reply to the poster in that thread?

[PlanetaryOrbit]

2. This sounds like a rhetorical question.

That being said, many situations are different.

[AverageJoe90]

3. I would say the latter, of course.

And I'm sure 99% of DU will agree with me on that. With that said, though, are you referring to something in particular?

[CreekDog]

6. then what's this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10024550887&info=1#recs

[AverageJoe90]

7. Nice try. But no cigar.

If you want my opinion on that piece, I do think that *both* genders should be involved in combatting the problem of objectification, not just men, and not just women; we need a concerted *collective* effort. I may not agree with some of the wording, but there's still some validity to the argument.

[quinnox]

4. People discriminate all the time

they discriminate about what friends they choose, what people they are attracted to, even what foods they eat.

And if someone is discriminating based on prejudice (I mean, in their personal life, of course institutions are different and subject to federal laws), well, sure its bad, but what ultimately can be done? Nothing. Not without getting all big brother-ish and thought control-ish..

[petronius]

5. I would nearly always say the latter

I would never say the former...