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Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:13 PM

prediction in Dunn Trial

Guilty of three counts of attempted murder. Hung jury on anything relating to the kid he killed.

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Reply prediction in Dunn Trial (Original post)
arely staircase Feb 2014 OP
bravenak Feb 2014 #1
Hoyt Feb 2014 #2
geek tragedy Feb 2014 #3
arely staircase Feb 2014 #4
geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
arely staircase Feb 2014 #10
Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #8
arely staircase Feb 2014 #12
OKNancy Feb 2014 #6
avebury Feb 2014 #7
Diamonique Feb 2014 #9
X_Digger Feb 2014 #11
TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #13
arely staircase Feb 2014 #14
geek tragedy Feb 2014 #15
arely staircase Feb 2014 #16

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:15 PM

1. I think so too.

That's my worst case scenario. I have a worst worst case scenario that I try not to think about.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:16 PM

2. Could well he right. If on that jury, I'd be handcuffed for throwing chairs, and breaking things.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:19 PM

3. Hung jury on the murder of Davis.

50/50 for acquittal on the other counts

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:22 PM

4. I think they will convict on attempted murder of the other three boys

Mainly because dipshit doesn't even claim they threatened him.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:24 PM

5. Unless they think he was still shooting at Davis. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:31 PM

10. true.

but one of the questions the jury aked was whether they have to arrive at each attempted murder count individually or if it is all or nothing. The judge instructed them that they had to look at each individually. That tells me they are coming to a different conclusion regarding the three others and Davis. Since they can't reach a murder verdict over Davis it tells me they probably can't convict him of attempted on Davis either but can on the other three. I could cer tainly be wrong but that is my read on it.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:28 PM

8. Well that's not encouraging

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:34 PM

12. no it isn't. I would like to see him convicted for killing the Davis boy.

But after the z aquittal I haven't had a lot of faith with in Fla. juries. If he goes to prison at all I will be pleasantly surprised.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:26 PM

6. Four counts - IMO

Three attempted murder, one of shooting at car...
20x3 plus 15 = 75 years in prison if given the min. Attempted murder is life

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:27 PM

7. If the Prosecutors are smart, they will retry him for Muder 2.

Jury is only 6 for Murder 2 Vs 12 for Murder 1. They need to find some new prosecutors who are not afraid to raise race at trial.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:29 PM

9. I agree, plus...

guilty of the 5th count. Shooting at the fleeing car.

This sucks.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:31 PM

11. 2nd degree + 3x attempted. Hung on 1st (due to premeditation.) n/t

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:34 PM

13. I'd be surprised if they hung on the murder charge

Juries as a rule don't like to hang. And particularly in a high-profile case. The judge is also going to instruct them to keep at to try to come to a consensus. They can agree on any of the lesser included murder charges. I'm inclined the think that the only reason they'll hang on the murder charge if one or more people are actually arguing to acquit rather than it being an argument between Murder 1 and Murder 2. They'd hang the jury before they'd acquit on the murder charge if they can't come to agreement on a lesser included charge.

I'm still hoping that the deadlock has to do with premeditation. After watching the judge and attorneys discussing how to answer the self-defense questions it appeared that that particular jury instruction was confusing and they even say they struggled with the language of it themselves for hours, so I think that it's entirely possible that the jury was asking the self-defense questions in order to understand the instructions, not so much because there was anyone that believed he was justified in self-defense. It seemed more about how to reconcile the meaning of the other charges concerning each of the boys and how to apply the instructions that were given...



The more they talk about it the more it seems that the instructions were unclear, and seemed to have more to do with the surviving boys than the one that was killed. I was starting to get confused myself the more they discussed it. I'm even more inclined to believe that since they have come to agreement after these questions were answered on the surviving boys.

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Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:36 PM

14. you make a very good point

And thanks for posting the video.

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Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 15, 2014, 05:46 PM

15. I would have believed that last night.

But then the jury came back this morning with "if we think he was justified in shooting at one guy, does that automatically mean he was justified at shooting at the others?"

that tells me at least one is clinging to the idea that killing Davis was self-defense

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:04 AM

16. wow. I was actually right about something

I hope they retry him now for the murder he committed.

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