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prediction in Dunn Trial (Original Post) arely staircase Feb 2014 OP
I think so too. bravenak Feb 2014 #1
Could well he right. If on that jury, I'd be handcuffed for throwing chairs, and breaking things. Hoyt Feb 2014 #2
Hung jury on the murder of Davis. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #3
I think they will convict on attempted murder of the other three boys arely staircase Feb 2014 #4
Unless they think he was still shooting at Davis. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
true. arely staircase Feb 2014 #10
Well that's not encouraging Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #8
no it isn't. I would like to see him convicted for killing the Davis boy. arely staircase Feb 2014 #12
Four counts - IMO OKNancy Feb 2014 #6
If the Prosecutors are smart, they will retry him for Muder 2. avebury Feb 2014 #7
I agree, plus... Diamonique Feb 2014 #9
2nd degree + 3x attempted. Hung on 1st (due to premeditation.) n/t X_Digger Feb 2014 #11
I'd be surprised if they hung on the murder charge TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #13
you make a very good point arely staircase Feb 2014 #14
I would have believed that last night. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #15
wow. I was actually right about something arely staircase Feb 2014 #16
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. I think so too.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

That's my worst case scenario. I have a worst worst case scenario that I try not to think about.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
4. I think they will convict on attempted murder of the other three boys
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

Mainly because dipshit doesn't even claim they threatened him.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
10. true.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

but one of the questions the jury aked was whether they have to arrive at each attempted murder count individually or if it is all or nothing. The judge instructed them that they had to look at each individually. That tells me they are coming to a different conclusion regarding the three others and Davis. Since they can't reach a murder verdict over Davis it tells me they probably can't convict him of attempted on Davis either but can on the other three. I could cer tainly be wrong but that is my read on it.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
12. no it isn't. I would like to see him convicted for killing the Davis boy.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

But after the z aquittal I haven't had a lot of faith with in Fla. juries. If he goes to prison at all I will be pleasantly surprised.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. Four counts - IMO
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:26 PM
Feb 2014

Three attempted murder, one of shooting at car...
20x3 plus 15 = 75 years in prison if given the min. Attempted murder is life

avebury

(10,941 posts)
7. If the Prosecutors are smart, they will retry him for Muder 2.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

Jury is only 6 for Murder 2 Vs 12 for Murder 1. They need to find some new prosecutors who are not afraid to raise race at trial.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
13. I'd be surprised if they hung on the murder charge
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

Juries as a rule don't like to hang. And particularly in a high-profile case. The judge is also going to instruct them to keep at to try to come to a consensus. They can agree on any of the lesser included murder charges. I'm inclined the think that the only reason they'll hang on the murder charge if one or more people are actually arguing to acquit rather than it being an argument between Murder 1 and Murder 2. They'd hang the jury before they'd acquit on the murder charge if they can't come to agreement on a lesser included charge.

I'm still hoping that the deadlock has to do with premeditation. After watching the judge and attorneys discussing how to answer the self-defense questions it appeared that that particular jury instruction was confusing and they even say they struggled with the language of it themselves for hours, so I think that it's entirely possible that the jury was asking the self-defense questions in order to understand the instructions, not so much because there was anyone that believed he was justified in self-defense. It seemed more about how to reconcile the meaning of the other charges concerning each of the boys and how to apply the instructions that were given...



The more they talk about it the more it seems that the instructions were unclear, and seemed to have more to do with the surviving boys than the one that was killed. I was starting to get confused myself the more they discussed it. I'm even more inclined to believe that since they have come to agreement after these questions were answered on the surviving boys.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. I would have believed that last night.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:46 PM
Feb 2014

But then the jury came back this morning with "if we think he was justified in shooting at one guy, does that automatically mean he was justified at shooting at the others?"

that tells me at least one is clinging to the idea that killing Davis was self-defense

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