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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:45 AM Feb 2014

Obama administration starts to implement changes to NSA phone records program

Obama administration starts to implement changes to NSA phone records program

By Andrea Peterson

During his Jan. 17 speech on National Security Agency (NSA) surveillance, President Obama proposed a number of changes to the agency's bulk domestic phone records program. Thursday, the administration announced that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) approved a motion to start implementing some of those changes.

Specifically, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said the court granted a motion to modify the most recent primary order authorizing the 215 phone records program to ensure that the metadata will only be queried after a judicial finding that there is a "reasonable, articulable suspicion" that the selection is associated with an international terrorist organization "absent a true emergency." In addition, the motion limited the query results to metadata within two hops of the selection term, rather than the prior three.

The FISC also ordered a classification review of the motions and the most recent primary order authorizing the program from January of this year, the government's motion to amend that order, and the court's order granting that motion, to be completed by Feb. 17. Once the review is completed, ODNI says the documents will "will be published as appropriate."

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Laura W. Murphy, director of the ACLU's Washington Legislative Office mirrored his sentiments. "It's good to see that some of the president's reforms to the bulk collection program have been implemented," she said. "What we need now, though, is not tinkering around the edges but an end to bulk collection. If the president won't end the program, then Congress must pass the USA FREEDOM Act and shut it down permanently."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/07/obama-administration-starts-to-implement-changes-to-nsa-phone-records-program/


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Obama administration starts to implement changes to NSA phone records program (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
thank you, ProSense.. Cha Feb 2014 #1
Obama is doing something positive ProSense Feb 2014 #4
"Too little too Cha Feb 2014 #5
That's because ProSense Feb 2014 #6
Exactly.. the ugly hate is Cha Feb 2014 #7
But since the White House has zero problems with lying about the NSA, MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #2
Yes, the OP is a lie. ProSense Feb 2014 #3
The Senate has tools to defend itself struggle4progress Feb 2014 #8
The White House has no problems with lying to Congress. nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #9
Clapper is the WH? What does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Feb 2014 #10
Who does Clapper serve at the pleasure of? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #12
What does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Feb 2014 #14
What the President and the NSA *claim* they're doing - and what they're actually doing - may be MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #16
Yeah, yeah. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #19
Kick Cha Feb 2014 #11
k&r... spanone Feb 2014 #13
Kick Rec and thank you! n/t sheshe2 Feb 2014 #15
Thanks Obama AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #17
If Obama did listen to Greenwald on this vital issue.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #20
Obama responded to public outrage AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #21
So Obama did listen to Greenwald as YOU just said Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #22
Whatever you are talking about AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #25
Perhaps Greenwald is a fucking disingenuous bully who Cha Feb 2014 #23
Well don't beat around the bush, Cha! Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #24
the cult of greenwald Cha Feb 2014 #26
Good job, Mr. President. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #18
So if I understand correctly, the NSA is still going to collect all the same info, hughee99 Feb 2014 #27
If Congress ProSense Feb 2014 #28

Cha

(297,295 posts)
5. "Too little too
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:27 AM
Feb 2014

late and besides nothing's going to stop me from whining about how it's all Obama's fault"

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. That's because
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:35 AM
Feb 2014

""Too little too late and besides nothing's going to stop me from whining about how it's all Obama's fault"

...it's not about NSA policy. It's about using anything to advance the anti-Obama whining and the Greenwald/Snowden fandom.

Cha

(297,295 posts)
7. Exactly.. the ugly hate is
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:42 AM
Feb 2014

out in full swing. that's because Greenwald and Snowden fucking have the lying vicious hate out on President Obama and like good little fans.. they echo.

Wonder how welcome their 3rd party screed will be around campaign and election time?

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
2. But since the White House has zero problems with lying about the NSA,
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:51 AM
Feb 2014

we actually have zero idea of what's *really* going on.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Clapper is the WH? What does that have to do with the OP?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:00 AM
Feb 2014

Other than desperation to change the subject?

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
12. Who does Clapper serve at the pleasure of?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:24 AM
Feb 2014

And what did this person do when Clapper admitted lying to Congress?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. What does that have to do with the OP?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:27 AM
Feb 2014

"Who does Clapper serve at the pleasure of?"

This is a desperate attempt at deflection. I mean, you've already dismissed the OP as "we actually have zero idea of what's *really* going on."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024473684#post2

You simply don't want Obama to get credit for doing anything.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
16. What the President and the NSA *claim* they're doing - and what they're actually doing - may be
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 11:41 AM
Feb 2014

totally different. The President has said that it's absolutely fine for that to be the case, no problems.

So any claims should be regarded as suspect.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
20. If Obama did listen to Greenwald on this vital issue....
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:57 PM
Feb 2014

Why did Greenwald say it's nothing more than a PR attempt to mollify the public?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/17/obama-nsa-reforms-bulk-surveillance-remains

You said he listened to Greenwald. Perhaps Greenwald should be a little more grateful if Obama listened to him?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
25. Whatever you are talking about
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:43 PM
Feb 2014

has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying.

Reminds me of the townspeople on Green Acres. They even take themselves literally.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
27. So if I understand correctly, the NSA is still going to collect all the same info,
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:59 PM
Feb 2014

they've just made it a little tougher to officially query.... and we only really have their word on that. I'm happy the president seems to be trying to address at least some of the problems, but can you really blame people for not trusting the NSA?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
28. If Congress
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 09:16 AM
Feb 2014

"I'm happy the president seems to be trying to address at least some of the problems, but can you really blame people for not trusting the NSA?"

...passed the USA FREEDOM Act, as the ACLU recommends, would you that help in "trusting the NSA"?

I mean, why would someone trust the NSA?

Yes, it's a good thing that the President is moving forward with the changes he proposed.

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