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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:10 AM Feb 2014

POOR STATES Are Conservative; RICH STATES Are Liberal. Why, and Where?


On 31 January 2014, Gallup issued their latest report on the "Liberal" and "Conservative" affiliations of residents within the 50 states plus D.C., and these ideological rankings of the states plus D.C. were almost identical to the rankings of the states plus D.C. along the high "Per Capita Personal Income" versus low "Per Capita Personal Income" from the U.S. Census Bureau (see page 26 of that document, p. 44 of the .pdf). The most liberal was D.C.; the richest was also D.C. The second-most conservative was Mississippi; the poorest was also Mississippi.


Here are the ten most liberal states, in order:

D.C., Vermont, Massachusetts, Hawaii, New York, Connecticut, Delaware, New Jersey, California, Maine.


Here are the ten richest (PCPI) states (also in order):

D.C., Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Wyoming, Virginia, New Hampshire, Alaska.


5 states are on both of those top-10 lists.


And here are the ten most conservative states:

Wyoming, Mississippi, Idaho, Utah, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, North Dakota, South Carolina.


Here are the ten poorest (lowest PCPI) states:

Mississippi, Idaho, West Virginia, Utah, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, New Mexico, Alabama, Arizona.


6 states are on both of those top-10 lists.


The liberal states are the rich states, and the conservative states are the poor states.



How can one explain the exceptions, such as Wyoming's being (and it is by far) the most conservative state, and also being the 7th-highest on per capita personal income? My theory to explain this is that conservatism has actually two components: aristocratic, and theocratic. Both the aristocracy, and the clergy, tend to be strongly conservative; aristocrats love the status-quo because they've got most of the wealth -- the status-quo is good for them; clergy love the status-quo because they're committed to worshipping the very personification of power -- The All-Powerful One, the All-Mighty, the Creator-God -- the supposed person who made things the way they are. Clergy believe: Might makes right. Aristocrats believe: A person's wealth is a measure of his worth. Both beliefs are conservative. In Wyoming, the aristocracy are more in control; in Mississippi, the clergy are more in control. They're conservative for different reasons: greed in rich states, faith in poor states. In liberal states, neither the aristocracy nor the clergy are in control (though both always try to be). On 13 February 2013, Gallup headlined "Mississippi Maintains Hold as Most Religious State; Vermont is the least religious," and reported a states-ranking that was, yet again, very close to the one for poverty.


The ten most-religious states were:

Mississippi, Utah, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma.

5 of those 10 are also among the 10 poorest states.


The ten least religious states are:

Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Oregon, Rhode Island, D.C., Washington (state), Connecticut, Alaska.


5 of those 10 are also among the highest PCPI states.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160415/mississippi-maintains-hold-religious-state.aspx?version=print





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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Poor-States-Are-Conservati-by-Eric-Zuesse-Congress-Republican-GOP_Conservatism_Conservatives_Liberalism-140201-427.html
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POOR STATES Are Conservative; RICH STATES Are Liberal. Why, and Where? (Original Post) Segami Feb 2014 OP
Can not take it seriously if they call DC a STATE. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #1
They included it, but they didn't call it a state. CJCRANE Feb 2014 #4
Poor people need something to believe in Awknid Feb 2014 #2
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #3
All of the poor states are mostly rural. octoberlib Feb 2014 #5
Vermont is not a rich state. It is rural. It is the most liberal state and the least religious cali Feb 2014 #8
D.C. isn't a state. The most liberal state is Vermont. It is NOT one of the richest cali Feb 2014 #6
LBJ went there when he said... Snarkoleptic Feb 2014 #7

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
1. Can not take it seriously if they call DC a STATE.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:14 AM
Feb 2014

Sorry but silly errors like that grate on my nerves.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. They included it, but they didn't call it a state.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:19 AM
Feb 2014

"Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Jan. 1-Dec. 31, 2012, on the Gallup Daily tracking survey, with a random sample of 348,306 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia".

Awknid

(381 posts)
2. Poor people need something to believe in
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:17 AM
Feb 2014

Hence, more religious. Conservatism is authoritarian, which also appeals to poor people due to the fact that they need to "belong" and be directed. That is just my take.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. Vermont is not a rich state. It is rural. It is the most liberal state and the least religious
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:31 AM
Feb 2014

and yes, it's really rural.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. D.C. isn't a state. The most liberal state is Vermont. It is NOT one of the richest
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:21 AM
Feb 2014

it does have the highest rate of hs graduation
it is, year after year, the healthiest state.

etc, etc.

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
7. LBJ went there when he said...
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:30 AM
Feb 2014

“If you can convince the lowest white man that he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll even empty his pockets for you.”

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