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(30,151 posts)she doesn't own her lower legs or feet?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Great set of memes, OP
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Oh well, the point is clear, in my opinion, but it's also funny.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)That's what I've always wondered. The "Hey chickie chickie baby baby, why don't you come over here and suck my cock." Does that EVER work? And assuming it has a virtually 100% failure rate, what ARE they trying to accomplish? Honest to goddess, guys, stop it. It's puke-worthy.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)It certainly isn't any kind of a compliment.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)To shore up the sense of higher status in the man doing it, as well as that of the men around him, and to reinforce the woman's understanding, as well as that of any woman witnessing this happening, that women are of a lower status.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)talking about it.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)The bigger the kick they get.
Proves your point.
Think back to second grade.....little boys like to upset the girls. Makes 'em look big to their friends too.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)In_The_Wind
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cinnabonbon
(860 posts)because we don't get enough feminist toons.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)...they just complain about it from a male perspective. The dad who loses custody to the crack-addicted ex because she's a woman, and everyone (especially the courts) know that its women who are supposed to take care of the children.
Mind you, both groups also attract lunatics from the fringes, who hate the opposite sex. But there is a lot more agreement than disagreement, and many MRAs could be also persuaded to adopt feminist perspectives if given a little encouragement.
Just a thought.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)seekers of equality.
Yeah, just like the NAACP and the "white power" movements also attract loonies . . .
How many custody cases have you litigated?
MRAs are largely sexist assholes.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)"The dad who loses custody to the crack-addicted ex because she's a woman, and everyone (especially the courts) know that its women who are supposed to take care of the children. "
Supporting data?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)custody of their children away from the men who beat them up.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Please note, I'll not get into a duel of anecdotes, as that's not useful at all. There are terrible one-off decisions being made around custody cases every day. So let me point you to this. I think it's reasonably balanced:
"In the old days, the courts used "the best interest of the child" as the explanation for why they gave custody to one parent or the other. Old Bureau of Census statistics indicate that in the early 90s the custody continued to be 90% to the mother, 9% to other family members or child shelters, and 1% to the fathers. Usually, "best interest of the child" was shorthand for "the kids go with mom and dad gets to see the kids ever other weekend, split of the holidays, and a week or 2 in the summer."
In those days, it was exceptional for even those fathers whose ex was verifiably drug addicted, alcoholic or mentally ill, to win custody of his children. (To be fair, it should also be said that some fathers got the court to believe this even when it wasn't true--I have met many women who didn't have custody, who didn't seem to fit any of these categories.)
The courts in the old days weren't particularly shy about what they were doing with custody. One judge in the South was quoted on the record as saying he never gave custody to fathers because in his experience on the farm he had never seen a calf follow a bull around in the pasture; the baby calves only followed their mothers."
Look at that first Bureau of Census statistic. 90% vs 1%. If there was a Bureau of Census statistic that said that nationally, whenever police went to break up a bar-fight, they arrested black people 90% of the time, vs 1% of the time for whites, would you suspect the police might be possibly racist? Or, would you be a Rush fan and say that that blacks are 90 times to cause violence as whites do?
There are people who do evil and hurtful things all the times in custody cases. Including both sides lying. Constantly. I will also say that courts are being a bit more even-handed these days - which is actually a good thing. But gender roles are still heavily in play in many parts of the country concerning this. And if you're entirely in favor of gender roles when it helps you, only against it when it doesn't, then you're very much a hypocrite.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)In 2009, census bureau cites custodial fathers at 17.8 percent of custodial parents.
That tells us nothing about how many fathers actually sought custody.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf
In 1997 that number was 14.9 percent
http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/p60-212.pdf
So I suggest you scrap that bullshit 'Father Mag' source you just threw out.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)...and, frankly, I'm now wondering a bit about that 90%/9%/1% stat myself. So I'll give that to you.
But while we're on the topic, do you have a problem with a magazine intended for fathers? That parenting isn't something they should be interested much in?
If so, I think I might be able to point out someone else who has serious gender role issues to you.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Sample quote:
To keep sex abuse a growth industry, its practitioners are increasingly targeting children, especially boys.
There's a section dedicated to defending convicted child rapist Roman Polanksi.
It's a website for misogynists, by misogynists.
More:
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Here is something you don't see on the D.U. every day. I withdraw my quote using "FatherMag" and cede the point entirely.
I'm not a big fan of Roman Polanksi, even if he's apparently BFFs with Whoopie Goldberg.
Facts and reality do matter to me. Cite them against my current position, and I will change it. (My position, not the facts.)
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
redqueen
(115,103 posts)These groups are dangerous.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)off that line
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Being off by 1300% or thereabouts, depending on the year (Census is a once a decade thing) to support an agenda I'm not even sure is an issue is spectacularly disingenuous, and worthy of equal levels of derision.
I am a father, and such a thing could potentially be useful, depending on what it is crafted for, and why.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 17, 2014, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)
on edit: adding this one because it goes so well together.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)I like them.