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RandySF

(58,884 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:27 AM Jan 2014

Pope Francis fires all but one Cardinal Running Vatican Bank

ROME — Pope Francis on Wednesday (Jan. 15) took his biggest step yet at cleaning house at the scandal-ridden Vatican Bank, replacing most of the institution’s advisers with fresh faces.

Among the new appointees: Vatican Secretary of State and Cardinal-designate Pietro Parolin; Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn from Vienna; Cardinal Thomas Collins of Toronto; and veteran diplomat Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello, a close friend of the pontiff’s.

French Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran is the lone cardinal adviser who was retained.

Francis’ move essentially undid a decree issued last year by his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, who confirmed the Vatican Bank’s supervisory body for another five years, just days before announcing his retirement. The most high-profile figure sacked on Wednesday was Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Benedict’s secretary of state and the face of administrative woes of Benedict’s papacy.

Officially known as the Institute for Religious Works, the Vatican Bank plays an essential role in helping facilitate the Vatican’s role in confronting poverty worldwide. But it has also been connected with widespread corruption and money laundering.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-shakes-up-vatican-bank-sets-financial-cap-for-sainthood/2014/01/15/2ecf5d20-7e21-11e3-97d3-b9925ce2c57b_story.html

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Pope Francis fires all but one Cardinal Running Vatican Bank (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2014 OP
This Francis guy is shaping up to be a pretty good shepherd. Fridays Child Jan 2014 #1
Amazing. He walks his talk. This has been going on for centuries, some say. It's a bad week libdem4life Jan 2014 #2
And he's going to make enemies. RandySF Jan 2014 #5
Has already made a bunch of them...Cardinals and officials at that level have been there for life libdem4life Jan 2014 #6
+1 freshwest Jan 2014 #14
I pray God's watching over him-- BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #18
He's what God's Grace provides ... and what the world needs. The Protestants need to take heed. libdem4life Jan 2014 #31
Anybody taking bets on how long it will be before he meets with Cleita Jan 2014 #3
This Pope has to out live the last one. iemitsu Jan 2014 #7
That makes me even more skeptical about his survival considering they still have Cleita Jan 2014 #8
Perhaps, but I think that Benedict had to go. iemitsu Jan 2014 #12
That is the theory of the pope who had a short term before. He looked into the dealings mfcorey1 Jan 2014 #10
Lost me at "Illuminati" Matariki Jan 2014 #23
He's whom I had in mind and thanks for the history. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #25
Less than a year. hughee99 Jan 2014 #21
WOW! n/t Tx4obama Jan 2014 #4
He should have called himself Pope Billy Jack. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #9
Ok that was pretty good. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #11
wow! he had the balls to do it! mackerel Jan 2014 #13
K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #15
So when will he start handing over pedophile priests instead of protecting them? Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #16
If you sort out the money part and all those in control mackerel Jan 2014 #20
As I a woman, I am thrilled with a pope who recognizes one of the most important issues sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #27
Fuck the mysoginistic, homophonic pope. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #17
so lame. beyond short sighted. cali Jan 2014 #24
What good is he doing? Chattering and attempting to run his financial empire with Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #26
Pro-equality? For everyone? Cleita Jan 2014 #29
knr Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #19
Cardinal Bertone is a walking scandal. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #22
OK, NOW I'm beginning to fear for the Pope's life. librechik Jan 2014 #28
Like HSBC they were heavily into money laundering. hunter Jan 2014 #30
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Amazing. He walks his talk. This has been going on for centuries, some say. It's a bad week
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jan 2014

for corruption. Who or what is next?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. Has already made a bunch of them...Cardinals and officials at that level have been there for life
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:55 AM
Jan 2014

and exercise great power. From there, they have no where to go, and there will be a trail down to the lesser officials, as well. He is amazing.

Reminder of the scene in the Bible where Jesus goes into the Temple and overturns the money tables and throws out the money changers. This Pope gets more and more Christ like with each talk and event. God bless and protect him, and I'm not a Catholic.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
18. I pray God's watching over him--
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:44 AM
Jan 2014

He's so good, has done so much to wrangle the Church back from the Right Wing and put it back on the path Jesus taught of standing up for the poor. He's much more than this world deserves.

God's strength to pilot him,
God's might to uphold him,
God's wisdom to guide him,
God's eye to look before him,
God's ear to hear him,
God's word to speak for him,
God's hand to guard him,
God's shield to protect him,
God's host to save him
From snares of devils,
From temptation of vices,
From everyone who shall wish him ill,
afar and near.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
31. He's what God's Grace provides ... and what the world needs. The Protestants need to take heed.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 01:28 AM
Jan 2014

Beautiful prose.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
7. This Pope has to out live the last one.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:27 AM
Jan 2014

The church can't replace Francis while Benedict is still alive. If such a thing were to happen, it would appear to many that there had been Divine intervention and a clear indication of God's will.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. That makes me even more skeptical about his survival considering they still have
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:31 AM
Jan 2014

Benny to fall back on.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
12. Perhaps, but I think that Benedict had to go.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:08 AM
Jan 2014

He evidently has some connection to a church scandal, or scandals, that could only be kept quiet by his removal.
One of the theories has to do with the bank.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
10. That is the theory of the pope who had a short term before. He looked into the dealings
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jan 2014

of the VaTican Bank. The book is, IN GOD'S NAME, by David Yallop. A good read into the alleged murder of Albioni Luciani (Pope John Paul I).


http://www.puritans.net/bookreviewingodsname.htm


I highly recommend it. Written by a Roman Catholic on the murder of Albioni Luciani (Pope John Paul I). Yallop received scores of "leaks" from within the Vatican, from people who were themselves shocked with the whole affair. His research is impeccable and exhaustive.

Interesting facts from that book...Luciani was murdered for, among other things, his resolve to excommunicate 100 top-ranking Vatican officials who were Freemasons. At the time, Church canon law still forbade membership in the Freemasons (even though the Nazi Pope, Pius XII was himself a Freemason). Also, of course, several of these Freemasons were co-conspirators in the Vatican Bank scandal, in which 2.4 billion US dollars were embezzled from the bank, having been funneled into "dummy" Panamanian accounts. The masterminds of this scam were members of "P2", an Italian branch of the Illuminati.

Pictures speak a thousand words. One enlightening picture is that of Luciani jovially speaking with a Cardinal, only three hours before his death--quite obviously in the pink of health. Upon his death, he was pronounced dead of a "possible myocardial infarction." "Possible?" Since when would anywhere outside the Vatican anything short of an autopsy be permitted? But an autopsy of Luciani was forbidden. (I suspect he was poisoned.)

Subsequent to Luciani's murder, the following things happened:

1) Karol Wojtlya, the CIA's candidate, a Marxist, but anti-Russian, was elected.

2) Wojtlya "sat" on the banking scandal, until several European nations threatened to sue the Vatican bank for default on their money.

3) Ronald Reagan then bailed out the Vatican Bank with $300 million of "discretionary CIA funds." (Either our tax money or illicit CIA drug money.) He also then signed a Concordat with the Vatican in 1983. His reward? The "Reagan Democrat" (i e, "Roman Catholic&quot vote. The Vatican secured the 1984 election for Reagan.

4) Church canon law was reversed in 1982 so that membership in the Freemasons was no longer grounds for excommunication from the Church of Rome.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
21. Less than a year.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jan 2014

I said when he started saying things that, traditionally, popes haven't said before that he'll be fine as long as he doesn't fuck with the money. My guess would be some sort of "heart attack" or "stroke".

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
13. wow! he had the balls to do it!
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:10 AM
Jan 2014

my auntie kept saying that he was going to be the one who would do it after Benedict got caught.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
16. So when will he start handing over pedophile priests instead of protecting them?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:33 AM
Jan 2014

LGBT community will have to wait I guess?

Women as well?

Well... Taking care of the church money does have to be a first priority, everything else is secondary because it takes decades to change

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
20. If you sort out the money part and all those in control
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jan 2014

of the bank I believe we'll start to see change in that area too. (Fingers crossed and holding out hope.)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
27. As I a woman, I am thrilled with a pope who recognizes one of the most important issues
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jan 2014

women face in the world today, poverty. His admonitions to the Reich Wing of his church and who have hi jacked this country to end their hypocrisy and obsessions with other people's behavior and to start acting like the Christians they claim to be has already helped Catholics who were bullied into either silence or complicity against Gays to have the courage to vote for Gay Marriage. See here:

Pope Francis Cited In Illinois Gay Marriage Passage By Catholic Speaker Of The House Michael Madigan


Illinois lawmakers voted to approve a same-sex marriage bill on Tuesday in a historic vote that concludes over a year of intense lobbying from both sides, reports the Chicago Tribune.

The Tribune identified two key events this year that may have contributed to the affirmative vote -- first, the Supreme Court decision that ruled the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional, and second, the tolerant remarks of Pope Francis about homosexuality, namely his statement "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"

The Pope's remarks have definitely made an impact, as some Catholic lawmakers who were initially undecided about the bill specifically cited his example when discussing their decision to support it. Rep. Linda Chapa LaVia (D-Ill.) commented, "As a Catholic follower of Jesus and the pope, Pope Francis, I am clear that our Catholic religious doctrine has at its core love, compassion and justice for all people."

The most notable statement came from Catholic Speaker of the House Michael Madigan, who echoed the Pope's words when explaining his support for the bill, stating, "For those that just happen to be gay — living in a very harmonious, productive relationship but illegal — who am I to judge that they should be illegal?"


And he's only been pope for such a short time. The Righties have lost their leverage in the use of women and gays, thanks to this pope.

Btw, is the Pope a law enforcement officer? Does he have some law enforcement powers we are unaware of? Your comment seems to suggest that which is news to me.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. so lame. beyond short sighted.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jan 2014

I have a simple measurement for people on the public stage: Are they doing more good than not? He definitely falls in the more good than ill category.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. What good is he doing? Chattering and attempting to run his financial empire with
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jan 2014

less scandal is not 'doing good'. Certainly not enough to mitigate his anti woman and anti gay right wing policies, most of what he says could be said by Rick Santorum. He slanders and libels my loved ones. I object to that. Sorry if that bugs you, seeing equal people speaking their minds about raging bigotry and sexism. Learn to live with it. Not everyone shares your dogmatic atavism. I am pro choice, pro equality. Those who are not can kiss my ass twice and call it communion.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
30. Like HSBC they were heavily into money laundering.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jan 2014

The price support division of right wing law enforcement is probably having a little sad about this and some members of the U.S. Supreme Court are hitting the Preparation H hard, bad butt-hurt days.

I'd like to believe Francis is a good man, however limited he is by my own Church's glacial traditions.

But from here in my fortress, behind my thick cynical scarred skin and flamesuit, I can't rightly say.

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