Right-Wing Facebook Page Calls For National Lynch President Obama Day (IMAGE)

[ashling]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/01/right-wing-facebook-page-obama-lynching/

A right-wing Facebook page wants to lynch President Barack Obama and declare the day of his killing a national holiday.

Threatening the President is a felony, even if it’s done on a Facebook page

Conservatives have used Facebook to call for Obama’s killing on multiple occasions.

Hate, violence, and death have run rampant in right-wing circles for too long.

These Facebook posts are not simple protests of President Obama and his policies. They are incitements of violence against him and the legally elected government of this nation. They break US law and Facebook standards and there should be real consequences. The posts should be removed. The Facebook pages should be taken down and the admins should be banned. They should be investigated and charged by the Secret Service. This kind of outrageous and offensive behavior has gone on for too long. A message must be sent that it won’t be tolerated. The right-wing uses the threat of bloody violence in an effort to take America backwards. Not only is it dangerous to our elected officials, but to our system of government and the American people as well. While liberals try to find peaceful solutions to America’s problems in order to move the country forward, the right-wing is obsessed with gun violence, military coups, uprisings, revolutions, overthrowing the government, and assassinations. This madness has to end before it ends America.

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This has got to stop . . . as far as I am concerned, facebook should also be investigated by the Secret Service


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[NYC_SKP]

1. Here's a link to their nasty ass FB page:

I can't believe they haven't taken it down altogether.

https://www.facebook.com/Americathenextgenerations

[freshwest]

6. I have forbidden my browser to look at Facebook pages that require I sign in. How are we to know if

the creators of these attention grabbing pages are not recording the ISPs of all their visitors for mischief?

I know people who can set up such things to record who visits their pages to find out who is harrassing them. It's beyond my skills, but not brain surgery.

After all, the architecture is built into the necessary function of a website as it connects to download its content to a computer. It records all visitors, even if they dump their cookies and delete their cache.

We've always allowed it to be done, for purposes of exchanging money for the service, it is in the various systems somewhere. At times I think these outrages are nothing more than data mining exercises.

JMHO.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Judging from the image in the OP and the actual FB page I linked, I'm confident they're the same.

I don't think FB allows more than one account to use the same full name, in this case "America the next Generation".

And they have a bunch of other similar hateful images.

But a lot of progressives are posting great counter-arguments and pics!

[freshwest]

14. I'm not talking about the person outting the threats. I'm talking about the ones making them. n/t

[NYC_SKP]

15. On second reading I see I totally misunderstood. True, we don't know that they aren't recording.

Except I don't know if just any Facebook user can detect visitor's ISPs-- clearly FaceBook itself can.

[freshwest]

23. I've known individuals who can record every ISP that scans their home page on other sites, since

it's intrinsic to how connections are made. These are telecommunications folks, but almost every website or places within it can do so.

In that case, the person unofficially seeking who was making threats to another person who posted on the site, in real life situations, calling their house, threatening their life, that of their family, etc. That connection was due to the person mentioning their former employment and name. Anyone who has a real name identity they use online in hopes of increasing revenue for their business takes that risk.

Or giving real life information in hopes of contacting long lost friends - exactly what Facebook is known for, exposes one. But an anonymous name on a site doesn't protect one as one might think.

All sites as I'm sure you know, register views when one visits to keep count for ad revenue, thus they must know the ISPs that visit. Each thread here at DU registers the views. They are not anonymous to the system, it's up to the website to separate the persona and the actual person who signs up.

DU insists on a name, addy, etc. to keep track. Some sites don't. But they cannot use the site without taking in cookies and as they are sent to the computer. The website must have a location. A physical location traced to a home, an account, and all of that.

Any person can do it, with enough knowledge. The big bad government is not required. There may be rightwing operatives putting those stories out as bait, knowing it will enrage people. Of course they may be yahoos who don't realize the same technology that makes the system work for exchanging data, can be used to find miscreants.

I'll give an old example from telecoms. A person makes a long distance call. The caller, the person being called, the time and numbers, are all recorded. They held that information until they put out the bill. Then the information was in a different system, the one that handled billing. People accept that. And they were at one time required to report threatening phone calls, and they kept local calls for a few days, but if a person called and complained they were being threatened or harrassed, they kept that for law enforcement.

It was legal. Recording searches is legal, just like so many other things, because they are part of commerce. If rightwing nuts are making an enemy's list, this would be a good way to do it. But I'll back away from paranoid plaza and just consider these politically dense bad actors as jerks. They are calling both sides to pay attention, those who agree and don't.

Anyways...

[NYC_SKP]

24. Wow.

That's a lot more than I realized.

Makes you sort of miss the days just before 28K modems...

[RKP5637]

28. LOL. when I started way back we were using 900 baud modems off the IBM mainframe

channel and it was state of the art, one of the most advanced things going back in that arena. We all use to just stand back in awe watching the modem(s).

[AAO]

48. I remember 300 baud. Someone help me!

[RKP5637]

49. LOL! I remember the Teletype as state of the art, and writing programs

on punched tape for early computers as leading edge computer technology. LOL, I'm not gonna be much help. Ha, and then setting up the jumpers for 300 baud then state of the art or later 900 baud. I just missed vacuum tube computing. The advances in technology are truly amazing.
Cheers!

[AAO]

50. So you must be, what 70-75?

Just a WAG from what you said.

[RKP5637]

51. Yep, 70. Growing up with the technology was fun. And the ARPANET worked quite well! n/t

[AAO]

55. Just turned 59 - so I missed some things - funny that I don't miss them!

I'm out-computered. I need to retire. Soon!

[freshwest]

32. I know you're pulling my leg. Everyone knew this decades ago. It's a no brainer. n/t

[NYC_SKP]

33. I didn't certainly not that a facebook member could discern visitors' ip.

[freshwest]

36. The program is available. I know people that have done it. It's a business tool...

Just in case the rest of that it news to anyone, I'll lay it out. A joke, of course:

Okay, it's like this, without this data stored somewhere, you can't go online:

They know where you visit online.
They know what your real name is.
They know where you really live.
They know want kind of PC you have.
They know what OS you are using.
They know what programs you run.
They know how you paid for internet.
They know your home phone number.
They know your cell number, etc.
They know where you are at both times.
They know your password.
They know your credit card number.
They know your bank account number.
They know your social security number.
They know your credit score.
They know where you work.
They know how much money you make.
They know how much money you owe.
They know your birthdate.
They know where you were born.
They know your pin number.
They know your mother's maiden name.
They know when you are online.
They know when you are offline.
They know all the sites you visit.
They know what you like.
They know what you buy.
They know what you sell.
They know what you look like.
They know what you sound like.

I'm not kidding. I just know how they do it, and it's available, not illegal.

So dammit, put your clothes back on and stop making that noise like a strangled duck or whatever you call it.

What has been seen cannot be unseen, what has been heard cannot be unheard and what has been writ is here forever.

BTW, I love you Agent Mike! I know you aren't half as bad as they say.

[RKP5637]

52. I wonder, is a cybernetic unified mind that far off ... I think some would like to

be synaptically connected to the net ... just the next step. Then, sometimes I wonder, is privacy obsolete, what would happen if there were none, would it make for a better world, no secrets, all known ...

It's past my bedtime!

[freshwest]

54. Most of our longing for faster and broader connectivity come from a desire for telepathy.

All achieved with man-made device, no hocus pocus. To harness all the energy of humanity into one giant piece of foolishness or greatness.

I have often been thankful telepathy doesn't appear to be common or effective, if it exists at all. If we knew what each other thought and felt, it could be the beginning of all-out war or peace, but only if we realize there is commonality.

Meanwhile, we love to play hide and seek with each other like children.

If one believes there is an omipotent and malicious force in effect, than the consequences for mankind from either telepathy or a hive mind would be quite horrible. We don't know.

But we are changing as a species, and not as people did in the past. Is it a good thing, a bad thing, or will we cease to exist?

And is it necessary, and who benefits from it? What's it all for?

Better left for another day and hope you have a good night.

[Boomerproud]

16. "America The Next Generation"

So, they already have crappy social media and culture (music, movies, TV)-that's what they stand for?

[JHB]

21. Naw, they're just another Teabagger PAC

From the "about us" page on their website, it's typical hippie-hate: "America was fine until those 60's radicals came along, and now they're taken over and are running the country into the ground" fantasies. Probably also somebody's bilk-the-donors machine.

The kind of people for whom this anthem wouldn't be a parody:

[Coyotl]

42. How do you know that's not happening on DU? I've done it myself to track IPs here on DU.

I can track every computer in the world that accesses any post on DU instantly, and so can you if you know how. I even scored George W. Bush's personal computer IP once, by posting on his Facebook page.

Of course, I passed it on to the proper "authorities" of independent government oversight.

[mnhtnbb]

2. Have you sent this to the Secret Service?

[CatWoman]

13. i went thru comments on the page

the owner said he was asked to and agreed to take down the photo.

He did not, however, say who asked him to take it down.

[monmouth3]

3. I just said GBCW to Facebook and posted one of these articles. Disgusting..n/t

[freshwest]

4. Nothing will be done. I'm sure their forefathers printed the same about Lincoln. And exactly which

American National Holiday celebrates the specific killing of one person?

The English have their Guy Fawkes Day. Utterly tasteless, but that's their way of expressing support for their government.

Some nations had their 'Death To ______" marches, which has not worked well.

But I expect nothing less from the crowd that cheered the deaths of those who did not have insurance when Ron Paul was on the debate stage.

Nor do I expect any better from those who watch Faux, where O'Reilly and others called for the death of those who opposed the Iraq War.

As a generation steeped in both these memes comes to majority, imagine what they will do. Yes, it's coming.

[sheshe2]

8. Sadly, you are right, nothing will be done, freshwest

Death and destruction seem to delight the Republicans. Whether it is the President, or the shrinking middle class, the poor and the most in need, they cheer raucously for our demise.

[RKP5637]

30. Modern day republicans have managed to gather most of the misfits, the haters, the garbage,

the religious kooks under one tent! A long time ago, I had some respect for the republican party as a counterbalance for American politics.

However, I lost that respect long ago.

The leaders of the republican party have lost control, and many of the following herd seem to lack any visibility as to what the new republican party is about, rather, they function as robots, programmed to react as their strings are pulled by the republican elite.

I have some republican friends that still think they are in Eisenhower times, they just can't seem to see the hatred.

[shenmue]

5. Death threats are not protected by the First Amendment

I hope they throw the book at these assholes.

[LittleGirl]

9. F*ers

I really hate seeing this.

[SCVDem]

10. Will CNN report this?

Probably not since they are trying to metaphorically do the same to Mellissa Harris Perry over nothing she said.

This just ain't right.

[W.J. McCabe]

11. Racism?

What racism? Clearly their opposition to Obama is based solely on politics... or something.

[frylock]

12. as far as you're concerned, why should facebook also be investigated by the Secret Service?

[SCVDem]

17. How much different is it

if the FB post was about blowing something up.

Where is FBs security. Is it a means for terrorists to send messages openly advocating the overthrow of America?

Just my opinion. I do not do any social media fwiw.

[frylock]

20. facebook is merely a medium..

people report these pages, and typically they get pulled. we've all seen some pretty crazy shit posted here by trolls. does that warrant a visit by the SS to Skinner's home?

[SCVDem]

22. More than a medium

Facebook is a for profit business.

I think the only thing Skinner gets from DU is the occasional headache.

The lynching post wouldn't last 5 minutes here. We are damn good at self policing. (Sometimes too good.)

[frylock]

38. so because they earn a profit, they should get hassled by SS whenever some nut job posts something?

[SCVDem]

40. When it advocates the murder of our President

or other acts in violation of the Homeland Security Act, (who approved that anyway?), then FB or other social media have a responsibility to take it down and report whoever put it up to the SS, first ammendment be damned.

Should flight schools have been "hassled" in 2000/2001 if certain activities were paid attention to?

Even free speech has its limits the same as certain activities should be questioned.

[frylock]

41. then FB or other social have a responsibility to take it down and report whoever put it up to the SS

and that's typically what happens. it may not be instantaneous, but that's what happens. now, if someone writes a threatening note on paper, is the SS obligated to visit the corp that manufactured the paper or the pen?

[canuckledragger]

18. The page has been neutralized and goated.

https://www.facebook.com/Americathenextgenerations

As with most of these pages run by paint-flake eating teabillies, they aren't too smart on who they allow admin access to and it was infiltrated and captured.

[frylock]

39. that's so rad!

[Coyotl]

25. From Fb: Thank You We have received your report.

[SummerSnow]

26. And when you call baggers out on their racism they go into a frenzy...

"WERE NOT RACIST!!!"

[RKP5637]

31. And, they are functionally delusional and in no position to know if they are

delusional or not. They really suffer from a distinct illness. A workup on the mental stability of these fools would be quite revealing.

[JHB]

27. It seems the page now is now overrun by goats...

This page WAS ran by backwards fucks who though they could post a pic Of Obama getting lynched and get away with it. Now it haz GOATZ!!!

[NYC_SKP]

29. OMG, Did Anonymous hack the site? That's HILARIOUS!!!

Goats everywhere!

https://www.facebook.com/Americathenextgenerations

[malaise]

34. ROFL

Too good

[NYC_SKP]

35. Whoever did that, I LOVE them!!!

[malaise]

37. They should still be reported

but I love what they did

[Ms. Toad]

44. Actually - not really.

It was not so much a hacking as an unwise choice of administrator. The "takeover" is by someone they gave the authority to run the site - so I don't think there's really anything to report.

[NYC_SKP]

47. I think malaise meant the originators of the lynching image should be reported.

The hackers are heroes!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

43. overrun by goats...

[theHandpuppet]

45. Why is this disgusting, racist crap even allowed on Facebook?

[catbyte]

46. They got Goatz!!!

[davidpdx]

53. Facebook does so little to stop harassment, bigotry, etc.

I can't tell you how many times I've reported a person or a group and Facebook takes no action. I've witnessed the harassment of a family through a group of bullies on Facebook and very little has been done.

I hope the Secret Service tracks these people down.

[moriah]

56. Looks like that FB page has goat a problem... a baaaaaa-ad problem.