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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 02:06 PM Dec 2013

“Hey, it’s radioactive snow!” - Fukishima/TEPCO/USS Ronald Reagan

Navy sailors that were on a humanitarian mission in Japan which provided aid proceeding the March 11, 2011 tsunami, were poisoned by the nuclear fallout contained in the waters while aboard the aircraft carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan. The storm blew toward them from Fukushima, whose nuclear power plant was melting down after an earthquake caused a tsunami that flooded the plant and ultimately took the lives of 19,000. When the storm’s path crossed that of the ship, crew member Lindsay Cooper “felt this warm gust of air, and suddenly it was snowing.”

The sailors on board weren’t aware that the snow falling down on them was a mixture of cold ocean air and radioactive steam, which was emitted from the nuclear reactor that melted down after power failures caused by the tsunami caused cooling equipment to fail. Cooper describes the snow as having a metallic taste and recalls that both she and her fellow sailors made jokes about it. She remembers saying, “Hey, it’s radioactive snow!” Cooper shot videos and took photos of the snow.

The moment of levity on board the ship that day has become a lifetime of misery for Cooper and many of her fellow Navy sailors. Sailors who were on board the USS Ronald Reagan and her sister ship, the USS Essex, as well as 5,000 crew members from other humanitarian ships in the area find that three years later, they are suffering various diseases. The diseases encompass issues of the thyroid, cancer and other traumatic health ailments, including serious vaginal bleeding.

In addition to being exposed to radiation from the falling snow, the ships themselves were floating in radioactive sea waters, which was pumped into the ship, treated for saline and then piped throughout to supply faucets, showerheads and etc. After realizing that the ship was highly contaminated, the crew attempted to change its position, but by that time the radiation was so widespread in the area that it made little difference.

According to Cooper, the Navy sailors charged with giving aid to Japan after the tsunami were stranded aboard the ship for two and a half months while continuing to be poisoned by nuclear fallout. They were denied entry by Japan, Korea and Guam before Thailand allowed them to dock.


More: http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/navy-sailors-giving-aid-to-japan-after-tsunami-poisoned-by-nuclear-fallout/




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“Hey, it’s radioactive snow!” - Fukishima/TEPCO/USS Ronald Reagan (Original Post) WillyT Dec 2013 OP
This story fails on several levels. RC Dec 2013 #1
Gee really? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #2
Sadly you are correct malaise Dec 2013 #6
Thanks for remembering me! bananas Dec 2013 #7
Merry christmas and happy new year to you too nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #8
Well... For Starters... WillyT Dec 2013 #5
Sounds like this could have been avoided if TEPCO had admitted their reactors were melting down. pa28 Dec 2013 #3
More Here: WillyT Dec 2013 #4
Bazinga! Debunk 3: "Cancers don't develop that quickly after radiation exposure." bananas Dec 2013 #9
Some more references bananas Dec 2013 #10
"It can't happen here. Who could imagine...?" - Frankie Z. Berlum Dec 2013 #11
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #12
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
1. This story fails on several levels.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 03:27 PM
Dec 2013

First is this:

When the storm’s path crossed that of the ship, crew member Lindsay Cooper “felt this warm gust of air, and suddenly it was snowing.”

It suddenly got warm and started snowing? Is some one trying to say radio active snow is warm, or what? It it got warm, the snow would turn to rain. And don't forget the time of the year here either. Snow? Doubtful. The ONLY date provided is March 11, 2011, the date of the tsunami.


Then there is this:
In addition to being exposed to radiation from the falling snow, the ships themselves were floating in radioactive sea waters, which was pumped into the ship, treated for saline and then piped throughout to supply faucets, showerheads and etc.

Navy ships use distillation of sea water to a pretty high level of purity. Distilled water. It is doubtful the ocean was that radio active to cause a problem with the treated fresh water.


And then there is this:
According to Cooper, the Navy sailors charged with giving aid to Japan after the tsunami were stranded aboard the ship for two and a half months while continuing to be poisoned by nuclear fallout. They were denied entry by Japan, Korea and Guam before Thailand allowed them to dock.


Why did not they come back to the United States, if there was such a problem? EVERY one on the ship from the Captain down to the newest E2 swabie should have been affected, if they were showering in radioactive water. The crew getting sick would have rendered the ship incapable of doing its mission.

The USS Ronald Reagan is nuclear powered. You don't think they would know about encountering any radioactivity?
This story does not pass the smell test.


USS Ronald Reagan sailors report cancers after Fukushima rescue mission
Fifty-one crew members of the USS Ronald Reagan say they are suffering from a variety of cancers as a direct result of their involvement in Operation Tomodachi, a U.S. rescue mission in Fukushima after the nuclear disaster in March 2011. The affected sailors are suing Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), alleging that the utility mishandled the crisis and did not adequately warn the crew of the risk of participating in the earthquake relief efforts.

Crew members, many of whom are in their 20s, have been diagnosed with conditions including thyroid cancer, testicular cancer and leukemia. The Department of Defense says the Navy took "proactive measures" in order to "mitigate the levels of Fukushima-related contamination on U.S. Navy ships and aircraft” and that crew members were not exposed to dangerous radiation levels.

Charles Bonner, attorney for the sailors, says the radiation the USS Ronald Reagan crew was exposed to extended beyond the tasks of Operation Tomodachi. Deployed ships desalinate their own water, so crew members were unknowingly drinking, cooking with, and bathing in contaminated water due to the ship's close proximity to the disaster site, according to Bonner. The USS Reagan was ultimately informed of the contamination after a month of living approximately 10 miles offshore from the affected region.

The number of plaintiffs in the case could grow significantly as 150 additional crew members are currently being medically screened to join. The sailors are seeking $40 million each in punitive damages as well as a $1 billion fund for future medical expenses for members of the USS Reagan.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2013/12/16/uss-reagan-sailorsreportcancersafterfukushimarescuemission.html


There can be no way the ship did not know at the time.
I call bullshit on the statement"
Deployed ships desalinate their own water, so crew members were unknowingly drinking, cooking with, and bathing in contaminated water due to the ship's close proximity to the disaster site,


Charles Bonner is the attorney for the sailors. So of course he is going to make it sound as bad as possible, to try to win this case.
The Defense will only need a few minutes to tear this point apart.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
7. Thanks for remembering me!
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:15 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe I should change my name to orange.
When people ask why, I can say, "Aren't you glad I didn't say bananas again?"
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, nadinbrzezinski!

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. Well... For Starters...
Reply to RC (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:24 PM
Dec 2013
Your next concern is fallout: highly radioactive dust or flakes that will fall to the earth after the blast. This can start landing within minutes and continue falling for hours, and can spread over many miles. It will fall mostly in the immediate vicinity of the blast and in the areas downwind of it. It may affect your area even if you felt little or nothing of the blast, and can remain deadly for days or weeks. As soon as safely possible, you will want to determine where you are in relation to the blast and the direction of the wind.


From: http://www.wisegeek.com/contest/what-should-i-do-after-a-nuclear-explosion.htm


pa28

(6,145 posts)
3. Sounds like this could have been avoided if TEPCO had admitted their reactors were melting down.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 05:51 PM
Dec 2013

Very sad indeed.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
4. More Here:
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 07:46 PM
Dec 2013
Debunk 3: "Cancers don't develop that quickly after radiation exposure."

Of all the expert 'opinions', the unscientific nature of this one baffles me - but is so symptomatic of contemporary bollocks about 'settled science'. We have never before seen - not even at Chernobyl - radioactive exposure like this in so many ways at such close quarters.

Says a senior medical San Francisco Slogger source:

"Everything that's come out of Fukushima and Washington thus far has been bullsh*t. The idea of cancer development rates being an accepted constant like some scientific norm is deliberately misleading ... as every single statement from those concerned to cover up this disaster has been.

"This is new territory in that there has been atmospheric exposure, waterborne carriage, and loss of control on a hitherto unexperienced scale. The US government should stop treating its citizens like children, and start giving everyone on the West Coast the real heads-up on the situation."


Because it's never happened before doesn't mean it can't ... as we're about to find out when globalist neoliberalism finally comes apart.

I'm still waiting for a response from US Navy stats ... four days on, they have yet to acknowledge my query ...


And...

Calmed by the bollocks being put out about how "harmless" the radiation leakage was, these 75 service men and women now face death.

I've just been to eighteen internet sites. I have verified who Bonner is, checked the case credentials ("Cooper et al v. Tokyo Electric Power Company, Inc. et. al. case number 3:2013cv00773, filed with the United States District Court for the Southern District of California&quot - and confirmed the case's existence with Bonner's law firm.

This is not left-of-centre urban myth: this is the best indication so far, in my view, of just how serious the Fukushima disaster is going to be.

But not a single mainstream medium I can find within the US, UK or European mainstream has gone near it.


From: http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2211716/fukushimas_cancer_epidemic_the_reality_revealed.html


bananas

(27,509 posts)
9. Bazinga! Debunk 3: "Cancers don't develop that quickly after radiation exposure."
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:18 PM
Dec 2013

Repeating this because it's important and debunks the anti-science pro-nuke bullshit:

Debunk 3: "Cancers don't develop that quickly after radiation exposure."

Of all the expert 'opinions', the unscientific nature of this one baffles me - but is so symptomatic of contemporary bollocks about 'settled science'. We have never before seen - not even at Chernobyl - radioactive exposure like this in so many ways at such close quarters.

Says a senior medical San Francisco Slogger source:

"Everything that's come out of Fukushima and Washington thus far has been bullsh*t. The idea of cancer development rates being an accepted constant like some scientific norm is deliberately misleading ... as every single statement from those concerned to cover up this disaster has been.

"This is new territory in that there has been atmospheric exposure, waterborne carriage, and loss of control on a hitherto unexperienced scale. The US government should stop treating its citizens like children, and start giving everyone on the West Coast the real heads-up on the situation."

Because it's never happened before doesn't mean it can't ... as we're about to find out when globalist neoliberalism finally comes apart.

I'm still waiting for a response from US Navy stats ... four days on, they have yet to acknowledge my query ...

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