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Obama RobinA Dec 2013 #1

His entire presidency has been progressive. tridim Dec 2013 #3

Except that he has been saying these progressive things since the beginning... tridim Dec 2013 #2

I think Krugman is saying that Obama trusted the RW too much. And he doesn't like chained CPI CTyankee Dec 2013 #4

RobinA

(9,898 posts)

1. Obama

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:50 AM

Dec 2013

was a progressive elected in 2008? I must have missed that. The progressive part, I mean. Never, ever did Obama present himself as a progressive. At least, I never encountered it. At least what I would consider a progressive.

tridim

(45,358 posts)

3. His entire presidency has been progressive.

Reply to RobinA (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:54 AM

Dec 2013

HCR, LGBT rights, Women's rights, fighting for labor, fighting for the poor, ending wars and the MIC, etc, etc, etc.

tridim

(45,358 posts)

2. Except that he has been saying these progressive things since the beginning...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:52 AM

Dec 2013

Just not always in major speeches.

I don't understand why smart people like Krugman (and half of DU) only hear things if they're packaged in a televised political speech.

CTyankee

(63,914 posts)

4. I think Krugman is saying that Obama trusted the RW too much. And he doesn't like chained CPI

Reply to tridim (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 10:02 AM

Dec 2013

at all and lays out a cogent argument against it. I've been reading Krugman since 2004 and I honestly can't recall any time when he has been wrong. I think Obama tried to reason with RW a'holes and now realizes how futile it is. He will do well just to stick to his guns and his progressive leanings and not care what the RW does...they're gonna do it no matter what...