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BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:07 AM Dec 2013

International criminal banking conspiracy leads to laughable fines only

Yes, I'm in the alternative headline business today. The actual ones are along the lines of:

Banks fined record €1.7bn over benchmark interest rate rigging cartel

The banks involved are HSBC, RBS, JP Morgan, Barclays, UBS, Deutsche Bank, Crédit Agricole and Société Générale, and also the trader Icap. Not all have agreed to settle.

Note that UBS avoids a 2 billion fine and Barclays a 570 million one because they blew the whistle (but were involved).
Not all whistleblowers are treated equal, don't you think?

Also, the combined assets under management of these banks go in the tens if not hundreds of trillions. The rates manipulated underly about 40% of all mortgages. A couple billion in a fine instead of large numbers of people going to jail is being touted as a record fine, even though a couple billion is the net quarterly profit of one of the smaller ones.

“What is shocking about the Libor and Euribor scandals is not only the manipulation of benchmarks, which is being tackled by financial regulators worldwide, but also the collusion between banks who are supposed to be competing with each other,” said Joaquín Almunia, European Commission Vice-President in charge of competition policy.


And that's why we're allowing them to settle, and why we don't break them up or revoke their licences. Understood?

There will be no justice, or peace in this world until we shut these cartels down.
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International criminal banking conspiracy leads to laughable fines only (Original Post) BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 OP
"The illusion of freedom .... Scuba Dec 2013 #1
Yep. But the question is, what does "the brick wall" look like? BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #2
The brick wall is clearly visble to those that choose to look. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #9
Speaking of UBS... KansDem Dec 2013 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #6
Hmm. I thought it was HSBC with the all-out money laundering, but WOW BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #7
Crime pays for banks abelenkpe Dec 2013 #4
+1 Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #5
Fine, while technically the correct word, is the wrong word happyfunball Dec 2013 #8
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. "The illusion of freedom ....
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:15 AM
Dec 2013

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre." ~ Frank Zappa

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
2. Yep. But the question is, what does "the brick wall" look like?
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:17 AM
Dec 2013

For many, it's already clearly visible. Doing nothing in the face of climate change. Secret free trade agreements. Global unwarranted spying. Unilateral wars for profit. The Big Bank Heist. M$M.

I guess it's the rat race, consumerism and media & entertainment diversions that keep people from seeing. I don't "do" any of these things anymore, and for me it's like looking at The Eye.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. The brick wall is clearly visble to those that choose to look.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:32 AM
Dec 2013

The secret free trade agreements, unwarranted global spying, unilateral wars for profit and the Big Bank Heist are all being covered up by a complicit M$M.

Some on DU, obvious employees of someone, actually argue in favor of maintaining business as usual, the status quo, as if we aren't already mired in a massive global catastrophe.

Response to KansDem (Reply #3)

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
7. Hmm. I thought it was HSBC with the all-out money laundering, but WOW
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:10 PM
Dec 2013

an Ixquick on HSBC drug cartel money laundering yielded

How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangs - about Wachovia (now owend by Well Fargo, or has that been eaten by a bigger fish as well).

'Drugs cartels used HSBC to launder cash' on, indeed, HSBC

A search on UBS yielded:

UBS in drug money laundering case: Employee suspended - Police arrest Colombian woman - dollars 150m account frozen no worries, it was only a UBS VP involved. Nothing institutional.

but also Mexican Drug Cartel Laundered Money Through BofA, FBI Alleges Hmm BofA.

It looks like it's safe to say drug money laundering is (was?) a fullblown part of the cartel's business model.

Thanks for the question!

 

happyfunball

(80 posts)
8. Fine, while technically the correct word, is the wrong word
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:56 AM
Dec 2013

A better word is "cut".

The government demands a "cut" of the profits...sort of like the upper echelon gangster gets a cut of his underling gangsters' income.

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