"Lazy gun owners kill far more than the crazy ones do."

[WilliamPitt]

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- a friend

A hard truth to be digested in the annals of "responsible gun ownership."

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. It's true

There are gun owners who treat their guns like some of us do our cell phones, a cup of coffee, or a bag of groceries. Put it down somewhere to get it out of your way....next thing you know, forget it, then knock it over....and someone's head is blown off.

Except a bag of groceries can't blow your head off.

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4. You're more likely to be hurt trying to keep the gun from falling over

Than letting it fall. Unless it was made prior to 1968, it had to comply with a government "drop test"

[rocktivity]

2. The latest chapter in the annals

(Winter Haven FL): ...Adele Bing, 52, had a “heated argument” at her home with her boyfriend James Lane, 39...which included her allegedly hitting him with a gun...Lane went to a hospital to be treated for head injuries. Hospital officials contacted the Winter Haven Police, and while officers were interviewing Lane at the hospital, a call came in about a shooting at the same address, police said.

At about 8:45 p.m., Bing’s daughter...went to her mother’s home with her infant...(P)olice said in a news release(,) “Adele Bing was still upset about the argument...(She)...thought the person knocking was Lane.”

Bing armed herself with a baseball bat and a handgun and fired a shot as she opened the door. The shot hit her daughter in the upper chest and she died at the scene. The baby was not injured...

Bing brings a whole new dimension to the concept of "lazy" gun ownership -- she didn't even bother to say, "Who is it?" She thinks there's someone at her door who means to kill her, AND SHE OPENS IT????


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[Hoyt]

3. Callous gun owners.

[pintobean]

7. From handling rough guns.

[Hoyt]

9. Just mean people - often bigots - who are ready to shoot people.

[pintobean]

13. Gee Hoyt

no one has ever seen you express that opinion before.

[Hoyt]

16. Hey it's fact. There's even a peer reviewed study that reaches same conclusion.

We know how much gun fanciers like studies.

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23. Can you link to that study?

[Hoyt]

26. Yes, when I'm not on my phone. It was posted here within last week or so.

Cited link between bigotry and gun love. Much more insightful than crud from John Lott, Massad Ayoob, NRA types, White Wingers, etc.

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28. The Australian study? The one that ignored

The FBI statistics on murder victims and their killers?

[Hoyt]

30. Nope. Although tough Aussies had guts to pass reasonable gun laws that would make our

Gun fanciers pucker.

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33. Certainly explains The Year of the Gun in Sydney

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/year-of-the-gun-sydney-in-grip-of-upswing-in-shooting-crime-20130730-2qxev.html

[Hoyt]

34. Aussies are quite happy with their gun laws. Only folks I hear complaining are gun fanciers here

who are afraid we will wise up.

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35. I'm sure their gun shot victims take solace in the poll numbers

[Hoyt]

36. Typical ammoland comment.

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40. Still waiting on that link

[Packerowner740]

37. Still throwing out those wild unsubstantiated claims I see.

[aikoaiko]

5. Ask your friend to define terms and show us some numbers.

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8. I'm sure they meant careless

As opposed to Lazy.
To me, lazy means not keeping it clean or knowing how to use it proficiently

[Hoyt]

10. "Proficient?" Do you mean like Zimmerman or that gun fancier who shot vet with Alzeimer's?

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12. The ability to pull a trigger doesn't make one proficient

[Hoyt]

17. Gotta practice on those targets resembling humans, center mass and all that gun crud.

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18. That's one part of it

[Hoyt]

19. I bet you are quite proficient.

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20. It's my responsibility to be proficient and safe with my tools

[Hoyt]

21. Heard it before.

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22. From people who murdered someone?

[Hoyt]

24. Gun fanciers, some of whom did murder unarmed people.

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25. Doubtful

[Hoyt]

27. Gun fanciers stick together.

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29. So do anti-gun bigots

[pintobean]

6. I guess the GD hosts needed something to do.

[alittlelark]

14. ROTFLMAO....

[seveneyes]

11. A hard truth to be digested

needs hard facts to back it up.

[pintobean]

15. "a friend" said it

It's gotta be true.

It's really big news, too.

[ileus]

31. Glad I'm not lazy...

Safety first, and carry on.

[arcane1]

32. Plus, if the kid is 8, and points and shoots at their 7 year-old sibling, it's not an "accident"

The kid was not mature enough to know the real horror of getting shot, but they pointed and pulled nevertheless. They know that guns solve disputes, even if they don't understand the implications. It's just a blast of black powder in the face, and an admission of the sibling's embarrassed defeat.

Eight year-old kids don't "accidentally" shoot their younger siblings in the head. For many of them, they aimed and shot, without knowing what the shot really, truly means.

Dumb-ass parents who let the TV raise their kids, and leave loaded guns lying about the house, and kids whose every hero solves their problems with violence. What could go wrong?

[Packerowner740]

38. Is there a point to be made here?

Or just trying to be a deep thinker?

[bluedigger]

39. It makes sense to me.

If the majority of gun murders are committed with stolen weapons, which seems likely enough, then they all originated from legitimate owners, who secured their weapons poorly in most cases. That's laziness in my book. The crazy ones may get the headlines, but the lazy ones have the body count.