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Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:06 PM Nov 2013

Note! Senate leaders can discharge a committee from consideration of nominee

In other words, after nominee has been referred to relevant committee, even if the committee is not able to vote and report their recommendation to full senate, the nominee can be brought to the floor and a vote made on whether to place this on Senate Calendar.

Looks like Republicans are fucked. Their failure to allow a quorum in committee will only create minor delays. It will not adversely hold up nominees from full consideration and vote by the senate for months.


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Note! Senate leaders can discharge a committee from consideration of nominee (Original Post) Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 OP
Suck it GOPers Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #1
That's good! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #2
Hell yes! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #22
On which page of that pdf did you find that ? Tx4obama Nov 2013 #3
Pages 6 and 7 Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #5
Text below Tx4obama Nov 2013 #7
Thanks. This is why GOP are so mad about rules change. They are screwn!!111 Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Nov 2013 #12
Hold on a minute. A motion or resolution would have to have 60 votes for cloture right? Tx4obama Nov 2013 #26
We'll see how it works out...but one would imagine any vote directly related to Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #36
good to know... annabanana Nov 2013 #4
K&R sheshe2 Nov 2013 #6
They have been fucking begging for this. And, Cha Nov 2013 #9
Well, the Senate Rethuglicans got what they wanted . . a kick to the lower extremities. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #10
Do bullies ever realize how much they Cha Nov 2013 #13
Naw, not Rethuglicans. Not until they lose their job in Congress! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #30
Yeah, they're so vacuous. Cha Nov 2013 #31
The difference between McConnell and his constituents....he knows Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #14
You're welcome. Impotent rage is some of the funniest stuff around Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #11
I WANT the 3 just filibustered to be nominated right away! freshwest Nov 2013 #15
They will be confirmed swiftly since they are out of committee already! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #16
Great news. Now pack the courts with impartial judges. It's a last resort for justice. freshwest Nov 2013 #18
They have already been 'nominated' - I think you meant 'confirmed' Tx4obama Nov 2013 #20
I wasn't sure if they would have to be 'nominated' again as if they'd been totally dropped. freshwest Nov 2013 #25
They had not been dropped. All three are out of committee waiting for a full senate vote. Tx4obama Nov 2013 #29
Important post malaise Nov 2013 #17
Excellent - so glad you found that. Congratulations! cilla4progress Nov 2013 #19
Nice! You shall now be known as Harry, Jr. to me Politicub Nov 2013 #21
Lol. Harry Doggonit Jr. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #24
they brought it upon themselves by blocking government from governing..... spanone Nov 2013 #23
!! **SWEETEST** words I have EVER heard in my LIFE!! lastlib Nov 2013 #27
Is the ATF position still empty? grasswire Nov 2013 #28
Here is another HUGE possible problem: 'blue slips' Tx4obama Nov 2013 #32
Those are merely traditions and courtesies Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #34
Did you notice this part of the Mother Jones article... Tx4obama Nov 2013 #35
I did. Republican intransigence for the past few years might have changed his mind Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #37
... Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #33
Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2013 #38

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. Text below
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:23 PM
Nov 2013

-snip-
Although very few nominations proceed without the support of a committee, chamber rules make it possible for the full Senate to consider a nomination a committee does not report. Technically, Senate Rule XVII permits any Senator to submit a motion or resolution that a committee be discharged from the consideration of a subject referred to it. A motion to discharge a committee from the consideration of a nomination is, like all business concerning nominations, in order only in executive session. If there is an objection to the motion to discharge, it must lie over until the next executive session on another day. It is fairly common for committees to be discharged from noncontroversial nominations by unanimous consent, often with the support of the committee, as
a means of simplifying the process. It is far less common for Senators to attempt to discharge a committee from a nomination by motion or resolution.
-snip-
http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid=%270E%2C*P\%3F3%22P%20%20%0A


Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #8)

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
26. Hold on a minute. A motion or resolution would have to have 60 votes for cloture right?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:56 PM
Nov 2013

Or does this fall under the 'new rule' ?

The new rule is 'limited' so what does the text of the rule change say?

Something to think about.



 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
36. We'll see how it works out...but one would imagine any vote directly related to
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:59 AM
Nov 2013

Getting a full senate vote on President's nominees should no longer require 60 votes for cloture.

Cha

(297,244 posts)
9. They have been fucking begging for this. And,
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:40 PM
Nov 2013

"republicons fucked".. you mean like they've been doing to Dems all these years?

thanks PW

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
10. Well, the Senate Rethuglicans got what they wanted . . a kick to the lower extremities.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:01 PM
Nov 2013

I hope the Senate Rethuglicans now realize just how much they deserved it, too.


Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
30. Naw, not Rethuglicans. Not until they lose their job in Congress!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:29 PM
Nov 2013

Then they hold press conferences and cry about losing their own election and blame it on the liberal media.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
14. The difference between McConnell and his constituents....he knows
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:19 PM
Nov 2013

What an asshole he's being, but he gets paid a lot by corporations to do so. His constituents are mostly clueless and submit easily to corporate and partisan propaganda.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. I WANT the 3 just filibustered to be nominated right away!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:27 PM
Nov 2013

They are all excellent choices, as indicated by Warren here:



Thanks Harry and Elizabeth

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. I wasn't sure if they would have to be 'nominated' again as if they'd been totally dropped.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:55 PM
Nov 2013

Naturally, I'm aiming at them getting confirmed, but didn't know if the filibuster ruined their chances. A vote certainly would, but the Democrats will stand strong and keep voting them in. Nothing wrong about that - they are doing their jobs!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
29. They had not been dropped. All three are out of committee waiting for a full senate vote.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:04 PM
Nov 2013

There have been cloture votes on Millet, Pillard, and Wilkins that did not pass the full senate in the past - but Reid changed his vote from yes to no
in order to bring the nominees to the full senate floor again in the future.


Then today Reid brought the cloture vote for Millet to the floor again for reconsideration of cloture and it passed 55-43
now there will be 30 hour of debate on that one.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00244



cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
19. Excellent - so glad you found that. Congratulations!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:50 PM
Nov 2013

I'm not naive enough to think the Rs won't continue to work on ways to sabotage the Senate and Dem control there. But every triumph matters. And I'm glad Reid decided to focus on now, instead of some future what-if. That strategy was going nowhere! Anyway, if we can fill courts with Pres O's appointments, that's a big help in the long run! I'm sure Pres O is VERY relieved and happy!

lastlib

(23,238 posts)
27. !! **SWEETEST** words I have EVER heard in my LIFE!!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 08:58 PM
Nov 2013
[font size = 8]Looks like Republicans are fucked.
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"Play it again, Sam!"

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. Is the ATF position still empty?
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:00 PM
Nov 2013

There have been many positions aside from judgeships that have been obstructed by Pugs.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
32. Here is another HUGE possible problem: 'blue slips'
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:36 PM
Nov 2013

IF both senators from a state do not turn in their 'blue slips' then the nominee will not get a 'hearing'.

And without a hearing a really doubt that the nominee would be brought to the floor.

Or is the blue slip phase after the hearing and before the committee vote?

I think it is 'before' they get a hearing.

Anyone know for sure?


Edited to add...

Article on link below regarding 'blue slips'



AND also...

-snip-
The rules change will not lead to an immediate flood of judges, however, as Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, observes what's known as the "blue slip rule," a tradition in the committee that allows senators to advance or block judicial nominees from their home state. Republicans are currently refusing to submit blue slips for four nominees pending in the committee, effectively stalling their entire confirmation process. And they could use that same rule to block others in committee.

The rules change has repercussions for what's known as the "hold," where a senator threatens to filibuster unless some related or unrelated demand is met. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), for instance, was holding Yellen's nomination while demanding an audit of the Federal Reserve.

With filibusters on nominees now easier to overcome, a hold has less power, though it can still slow down the process.

-snip-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/senate-filibuster_n_4319665.html
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
34. Those are merely traditions and courtesies
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:16 AM
Nov 2013

Considering what a bunch of discourteous fucks Repukes have shown themselves to be, maybe Leahy dispenses with that. He did vote yea on the filibuster rules change.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
35. Did you notice this part of the Mother Jones article...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:27 AM
Nov 2013

-snip-

2003: Republicans win back control of the Senate. They up the ante by effectively moving to a zero blue-slip rule: they'll allow hearings on nominees even if no senators return blue-slips. Democrats threaten to filibuster over this rather obvious abuse of power and insist on a return to the two blue-slip rule.

2007-Present: Democrats win control of the Senate and Pat Leahy of Vermont becomes chairman of the Judiciary Committe. Leahy is a traditionalist who maintains the two blue-slip rule.

-snip-

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/03/senator-leahy-and-blue-slips




Might be hard for him to change his mind now

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