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Alicia Ann Lynch, Girl Who Dressed As Boston Bombing Victim, Threated With Rape And Death, Fired From Job, And Had Nude Photos Exposed Online
A young Michigan woman was fired from her job and has been receiving death and rape threats for her Halloween costume choice, which she believed was a simple joke.
Alicia Ann Lynch, 22, dressed as a Boston bombing victim for work on Oct. 31, with shorts, sneakers, a marathon T-shirt and with fake blood dripping down her face, legs and arms. According to Buzzfeed, Lynch posted a photo of herself in costume on her Twitter account @SomeSKANKinMI (which has since been deactivated) with the caption Costume one #ssim #boss #halloween #boston #marathon #runner. Almost immediately, the backlash against Lynch ensued, even including angry commenters publishing nude photos of her online.
http://www.ibtimes.com/alicia-ann-lynch-girl-who-dressed-boston-bombing-victim-threated-rape-death-fired-job-had-nude
Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
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JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)...good one!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)on the costume showed coldness and thoughtlessness, some of the gross actions against her are unacceptable to any civilized person.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Nicely done.
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)It's nice to know you thinking lynching is something to joke about.
#strangefruit
This also applies to Jimmyjoebob and joncryer.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)FYI
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)I thought you'd maybe look up what strange fruit is, instead of me linking it. It's graphic, but anyone who jokes about lynching wouldn't really care amiright?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)it's a YouTube channel by two members of the awesome band that is Pentatonix
Check this GREATNESS out! (by the way, you did catch that her last name was Lynch right? LOL )
Bandit
(21,475 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)right? pigs rule
ret5hd
(20,516 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)wtf do i care what she calls herself. or that she has nudes. it is the fact that you have men that reduce women to sexually humiliate women at every turn and THAT is what i am calling out.
are you suggesting i slut shame the woman some more cause the name she choose?
ret5hd
(20,516 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i do not think much of her naked pictures. i do not think much of her user name.
but, i do not have to. that has nothing to do with anything.
who should be addressed are the people that felt the need to threaten her with rape and put out her pictures to humiliate her.
i do not think much of a prostitutes choices either. and you can damn well bet i am standing with her arm in arm if she is raped or abused.
these have nothing to do with the woman and ALL to do with the abuser.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)those photos would have on a woman's?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Were these pictures taken of her against her will?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)about justifying the threats of rape? is that over your line?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and I am a woman mind you...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)when they step out of line. and if you are talking weiner, his OFFENSE was the sexual act. this womans offense has NOTHING to do with sex, nude pictures, raping her or sexually humiliating her.
was weiner threatened with rape?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)You think he wasn't threatened? I bet he was...because he was a man it was not considered news worthy no doubt....
Men are threatened with rape too you know?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you do not get a "win" in an argument saying... he could have.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)because that is not true...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and it is put on line for men to get off on, for the simply act of humiliating them. it is epidemic. and you want to say it is nongender specific. truly amazing.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)it is not a gender specific crime...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I am a rape survivor..
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)ask Gay people...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)filmed him surreptitiously?
This DOES happen to men too...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)whathehell
(29,088 posts)Weiner did it of his own free will and the instances of men threatened with rape are not
NEARLY as frequent as those of women.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and you are speaking to a rape survivor...who HAS had men tell her in confidence that they were raped.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)anywhere?
you might want to be a little more aware that the women on this board will be the FIRST to stand with our men that have been raped. to even suggest that is not true is disgusting.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)all I said was that they WOULD post naked pictures of men online too...
I never said anything about her deserving rape...I just said naked pictures of men would be posted too.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)That this woman was threatened doesn't mean men are not threatened (or raped).
Obviously neither men nor women should be raped.
However, this thread is about a woman being threatened with rape as some twisted idea of punishing her for an insensitive Halloween costume. Talk about a disproportionate response!
Why on earth would anyone even THINK of threatening to rape someone for an infraction like that?
whathehell
(29,088 posts)As for men, no one said it never happens, but I hardly think I need to dig up stats to prove that
it's much less prevalent. I am also a rape survivor, by the way.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that had them...
That is all...sheesh
whathehell
(29,088 posts)but this is all getting a bit tiring and pointless, so I'll bid you good evening.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)quit trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Amanda Leathers?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)And who cares if the pics were voluntary or not? I'm QUITE sure she never meant for them to be published on the internet. But don't let me get in the way of a good slut-shaming. Please proceed.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I am interested in "Bombing Victim as a Halloween costume" shaming actually.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)beyond insensitive and stupid. so what? that has nothing to do with the men that decided to sexually harass and humiliate her.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)This happens to women all the damn time. Constant slut shaming, ruining their lives by stealing nude pictures, harassment, bullying, rape threats, sometimes for something as tame as fucking duckface.
Anytime a woman is thrown into any sort of public eye or dares to have a twitter or Facebook account, some mouth breathing basement dweller is going to sexually harass her, threaten her with rape, or bully her into either a mental breakdown or suicide.
This Anthony Weiner bullshit does NOT rise to the same level whatsoever.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)It's not the same thing. Not at all.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)its MUCH MUCH better now...
All I said was...IF a man had of done what she did...AND they had nude pictures of him....They would have posted them.
Period.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I've seen women shame men for sending unsolicited nude pictures, but that's not the same at all.
There are legions of trolls out there who scour webcams and hack social media accounts to get the most embarrassing pictures of women possible and spread them across the Internet. The same assholes try to harass other women into taking nude pictures and then send those out.
It's slut shaming and attacking women who dare to take control of their own lives and venture out into the world. Those misogynistic bastards only want to see women degraded in the most public and embarrassing fashions imaginable. The assholes who dressed up like Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman didn't have nude pics spread around.
Sorry, but it is absolutely not the same thing. At all.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I am not denying misogyny on the Internet....I am saying that humiliating images of a man would have been used if a MAN had of done what she did.
Period.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm afraid I do not see any valid or relevant correlation between her twitter account name and nude pictures of her being posted without her consent or rape threats...
Seems as though one may just as irreverently ask the "straightforward question" what was your opinion of the raped woman's facebook profile picture...?"
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)What she did was wrong, stupid, tasteless, insensitive, and about a dozen other adjectives that escape me at the moment, but none of that warrants death threats, rape threats, or releasing nude pictures.
Being called an asshole by half the Internet and losing her job seemed punishment enough.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)EVERYBODY that puts stuff on the internet has no expectation of privacy about that material. Once it is out there it is out there forever...anyone that thinks different is in far a rude awakening. About her costume, I find it no more repulsive than a vampire or witch. In fact hers isn't about doing evil, but about being a victim. Vampires and Zombies are EVIL.....
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Yes, if she posted them online in the open, she has no expectation of privacy.
But let us set that aside, since it is the least of the overreaction.
Am I "naive" to state that her crime does not rise to the level of death and rape threats?
What she did was horrid, but threatening to rape/kill her is worse.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)I find nothing wrong with her costume. Maybe a little insensitive toward the real bombing victims, but compared to vampires or zombies, being a crime victim is not EVIL. That being said I sympathize with her for her mistreatment
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)metaphorically rather than literally. Sorry, I should have clear.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And they're not really nudes, just her showing skin, I think there was only one breast shot in the entire collection.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)However if these were public accounts, c'est la vie.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)The same username, etc.
All they did was search.
You can do the same for me, find out all sorts of stuff.
Except where I live or my phone number.
I try not to make a habit of pissing people off though. Got too many death threats over Libya...
yesphan
(1,588 posts)she didn't think that one through. She should have asked someone if perhaps it was too soon.
However, threatening her life and humanity is even worse.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)She apologized and didn't make excuses.
whathehell
(29,088 posts)of women. Then again, some don't even bother looking for one.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)anyone about this.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)sick all. sick all around but she had the grace to learn adn give a sincere apology. the pigs? just pigs.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #6)
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whathehell
(29,088 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)threatening rape. that is such a fuckin tough one. cause all the time, day after day, i am hearing women threatening to rape a man. ya know. oh oh and raping women. boy. those women on women rapes just have totally taken over the net.
why in the world would i assume that threatening rape would be coming from a man.
how dare i
1000words
(7,051 posts)You seem angry ... all the time. Good luck with that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)over the top
whathehell
(29,088 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)whathehell
(29,088 posts)whathehell
(29,088 posts)There really are NOT enough eye rolls to convey the absurd level of denial that goes on here at times.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to shut up? wtf the fuck are you talking about. do clarify. instead of games, tell me what the issue is.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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... did I sense just a touch of bullying going on?
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)totally pointless and wasted couple minutes.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that have to sexually humiliate women? is that your point? that i am not allowed to speak up. not hard. yes or no. just let me know wtf your point is.
cause i am pretty damn sure the point is.... how dare i say something about the pigs that need to sexually harass and humiliate a woman cause they are pissed at her. but, i do not what to call you out on that bullshit if i am not clear. so.... i am being civil and asking you. wtf is your point
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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That sounds like a good rule of conduct to have as one's guide.
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i do not even know what you are talking about, yet you want me to give you a substantive answer.
so you get a
ha
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)whathehell
(29,088 posts)because your lame comments indicate that you didn't understand, or should we say, "accept" what she said the first time.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)going on with this heartless bullshit. Apparently it's a personal vendetta that is so much more important than all women who use the nets lives or safety. Priorities, you know.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bandwagon you are jumping on? Please clarify your objection here.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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Thanks for making my day.
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Stereotypical bully.
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)at all. In fact you seem amused they should bother people here. Way to go.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Or courage. or convictions you can freely cop to having, LOL.
all vague snark, no actual thoughts or opinions shared.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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... are pretty consistently demanding, abusive and bullying.
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You can find an outlet for those apparent "needs" elsewhere now. I'm done with you.
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Response to MiddleFingerMom (Reply #226)
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)can;t help it if you're offended by people who actually say what they mean. You should try it sometimes, instead of this inscrutable snark nonsense you seem to be aiming for. Waste of bandwidth.
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts)penultimate
(1,110 posts)Based on what I read, she seems more humiliated by her insensitive actions than her photos being seen by more people. It also appears that she publicly posted those photos herself, as opposed to someone posting private pictures that were meant for them.
That being said, I don't like her costume or her the threats against her life...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Think it through.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)She did something stupid and insensitive, but has drawn despicable reactions from the worst corners of the Internet.
tblue
(16,350 posts)your online postings can be traced?
She did a DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB thing. Did I mention it was DUMB? But there is never a cause for bullying or threats of rape, my gosh!
whathehell
(29,088 posts)they (stupidly and immorally) dressed up their kids like Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.
I don't know anymore -- I guess "firing" is wrong, but rape and death threats are OK?
quinnox
(20,600 posts)How she could have thought this was funny is bizarre, she is either an evil person, or dumb as rocks.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)BainsBane
(53,056 posts)In the rest of the subthread.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)BainsBane
(53,056 posts)That made the statement interrogative rather than declarative.
He makes his views clear enough in this subthread: She deserved what she got.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)'Whereas threatening rape and murder is funny?' ---is not really a question in my understanding of English. Quinnox never brought up funny--you did.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)He used the word in his first post. His actual position as clearly stated in subsequent posts is more offensive than my so-called accusation, but that clearly doesn't bother you as much as the fact I questioned his position. I will speak out against anyone who treats threats of rape and assault casually, and that you find that the most offensive part of this discussion speaks volumes.
So now I know.
Kingofalldems
(38,469 posts)Wait a minute. I see what you did there. He used the word funny and you gave it a whole new meaning, as if he thought the threats were funny. 'You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts'---Daniel Moynihan.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:07 AM - Edit history (1)
There are clearly reading comprehension issues here. He said the costume wasn't funny. In the story in the OP, he chose to express outrage over the costume rather than rape and death threats against a woman. I used his very words to point out the contrast between a costume and threats of rape and murder. I did not change the meaning of the word funny. My posts conveyed dismay (veiled disgust) that anyone could read that story and consider the costume the more egregious offense, but then I've read enough from that member to know his views of women.
Your decision that the most important point to make here was a defense of Quinnox's posts tells me what your values are. So as inane as this discussion has been, I at least learned something.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)I usually ignore any posts that try to put words in my mouth, it is a waste of my time and not worth responding to.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)And are far more offensive than the question I posed, but entirely expected.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Much better than the words you apparently added in your head.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2013, 12:59 AM - Edit history (1)
My thought crime is yet another example of the injustice you must face having to share the planet with women who don't think rape and death threats worse than a Halloween costume.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)and arguing with things no one said, it's hard to decide exactly which way your post fails more spectacularly.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)You clearly have nothing but personal insults to add to the discussion. You've gotten yourself worked up over what you imagine I might be thinking. That is just strange.
Here's a tip. If you actually read the OP, you'll have an easier time understanding posts. Who knows. You might even decide you actually have something to say about the subject matter.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)only one is trying to imagine what the other is thinking. Hint: this entire subthread you've been playing as a piss-poor psychic, doing your damnedest to shove words and meanings into people's posts. I would encourage the inevitable jury for this post to read it and see that what I say is true. Whatever Rosetta Stone of indignation you're using to decipher the ill-intent behind all our words has failed you terribly. I know that sort of thing is a hobby in some places on this site, but would appreciate if it stayed there and out of GD.
Johonny
(20,880 posts)that is perfectly OK.
lesson learned.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)and dressing up in such a despicable costume.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Her costume was stupid and insensitive, but an expected reaction would be more like people chiding her for her insensitivity, not threatening her with bodily harm.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Think of it this way, how would people react to someone making fun of the jumpers from the World Trade center. A Super nova red-hot reaction, I bet. It is the same thing here. OF COURSE people will react in this way. Call it irrational, but people tend to go ape-shit when seeing this kind of thing.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Rjghteous indignation, ape-shit anger, whatever...threatening to rape her as revenge? Who thinks like that? Normal people would never anticipate that.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)No reasonable person justifies them.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)I am saying people will tend to go nuts when they see such a despicable and disgusting costume such as this.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Than the threats of rape and murder.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)simple.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That's what this boils down to. She was a perfect target with the outrage over the costume, and the little boys who couldn't get dates in high school jumped on it and proved why they're the pond scum of the universe.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Please tell me you don't think that is in any way acceptable.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)But put yourself in the shoes of someone who was traumatized by this horrific terrorist incident, let's say even someone who lost a loved one at the Boston bombing. Now, imagine how they would react to that costume. For me, I can empathize with their outrage and what they would think about this. It would be a white-hot emotional reaction, that is for sure.
It really is a simple calculus, if she hadn't made this despicable costume, and then took pictures of it, smiling, like she thought it was funny, and then proudly posting them on the internet, then this whole storm would never have come her way. It really is that simple.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)I can't read your mind, but you did seem to be more upset about the costume itself, than about the fact that people were threatening to rape her.
And if I were a victim of the attack, or knew someone who was, my reaction would probably be something like "You evil piece of shit! How could you?" But that is not in any way the same as a rape threat.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Her decision on the costume showed cluelessness and coldness, but that shouldn't get her threatened with rape or murder of her and her family.
Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)Here's where there's a problem. Not once do you say what normal people believe, which is nothing justifies the threats of death and rape. All you seem to be doing is trying to blame the victim, and it's revolting to read...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)I would bet on them being basement-dwelling misogynist losers exploiting another opportunity to lash out at women. They could care less about the victims. These are the real bullies.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Wake the fuck up- this is not okay, and not to be excused or "expected".
arikara
(5,562 posts)Like that. i work with someone who is always going apeshit over any thing and the consensus with everyone else who is subjected to it is that it's a form of bullying and it has to stop. Adults should be able to control their over the top emotional reactions.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)NOTHING to do with her heartless and clueless stunt?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)If you piss off the right group you're done for.
It's one reason sites like this one have rules against giving out personal information.
What would happen if one of our biggest trolls who we ostracized was "doxed"? (Information came out on them.)
I bet even DU would make their life miserable.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)A concept you have repeatedly denounced.
Logical
(22,457 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Uh, I thought people were supposed to dress up as scary ghoulish things.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)I know you know the difference between what this girl did, and what dressing up in a traditional ghoul or ghost costumes is.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The 9/11 outfit:
Michael Jackson:
Suicide Bomber
People dress up in all sorts of awful things because.... it's Halloween.
I cannot for the life of me figure out why the entire internet needs to work itself up into a moral outrage because some nitwit somewhere did something stupid.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Now, exactly how is the person in the OP not like the others? I can't imagine...
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)The internet hates what they deem pretty girls seeking attention and if they can find one doing something worthy of ire, the male demographic of the internet loses its collective shit.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)Aren't comparable, and that being more outraged at the costume than the threats is repulsive.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine another lesson she learned was that the consequences of benign yet tasteless jokes in our culture are often threats of violence and rape done by people who are evil or dumb as rocks...
But I suppose we all like to pretend to know what she did or did not learn.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Talk about extreme over-reaction to the situation!!!!!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Way to fucking go, internet... make me feel sorry for a woman who was stupid enough to do this.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and we are in the position of calling them out, rather than her. she apologized. and the pigs go unpunished and mostly unnoticed.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Peep's reactions are far more tasteless than the costume.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)What I have a hard time understanding is as many times as naked, drunk and compromising pictures are used against people - why, oh why do people still have them taken? Why haven't people learned anything?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Packerowner740
(676 posts)I don't know what's wrong with today's youth. The threats are vile but if you are going to take pictures like that you have to expect them to get out. So many people doing those revenge sites which should be shut down and prosecutions made.
I have been married for over 30 years and could never imagine taking pictures like that of my wife much less somehow allowing someone else to see them or post them. And I couldn't imagine my wife being the type of person to allow it either. We knew each other right out of HS and have never been that type of person.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)I doubt whether she "survived" a marathon where two people got killed and people lost limbs. Her apology was a non-apology and just shows even more clearly her lack of a clue or empathy. But people threatening her with rape and death and threatening her family are way out of line.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)shes threatened with rape
threatened with death
loses her job.
Maybe they'll be happy if she kills herself.
People can be so cruel over someone elses mistakes.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)deserves threats of rape and murder?
I don't think that's rational at all.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)all the pigs and fuckheads are putting their say in, they have more freedom of late to do that - what with the teabaggery and the horrific changes in women's rights it's safer now to be a pig. anywhere.
the girl probably did the stupidest thing in her life with that costume, but the reaction is so over the top.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)beginning of the thread. i mean. these men threaten rape and put out her pictures to humiliate. but... i am the issue because i call them pigs.
can we justify these pigs existence any more? lordy.
Initech
(100,100 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Bullying is not the answer.
Initech
(100,100 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)They will seek it.
Initech
(100,100 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Our existence has become like a 70's zombie movie without the zombies; instead we're just a bunch of self-absorbed fucks one-upping eachother in cruelty
Iggo
(47,564 posts)...is a complete fucking idiot.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Thank you very much.
The young lady is 22 years old and apologized. Kids cannot make a mistake anymore without it becoming a huge problem. I do not understand the threats of violence, at all. Can the people threatening her be prosecuted? I hope so.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Iggo
(47,564 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Other issues would she cause me in the future?
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)or a 9/11 victim and trying to pawn it off as a joke. You show up to work in something like that. You make the comapny look bad then your fair game for being fired.
The other stuff, death threats, rape threats are uncalled for and way out of line.
Social media is a two edged sword. Lots smart people out, there lots more knuckle draggers.
The trick is not to expose yourself in a negative way to the hordes or roaming idiots out there.
Bottom line is, she's an adult, she made a really bad choice and now her life is seriously screwed.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)I think a lot of people. Simply dont consider the simple fact EVERY post they ever make on the internet is THERE FOREVER...and as Prince said in one of his best songs "forever, thats a mighty long time"
Moreover, what ever you post is available for the whole world to see.
Moral of the story.
Be careful what you post
That's stupid.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Iggo
(47,564 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)It is a damn costume. On halloween. Maybe tasteless, but the reaction was a million times worse.
Initech
(100,100 posts)Way too many idiots and assholes out there, and when crap like this happens, true colors are revealed.
Nine
(1,741 posts)Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #56)
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Dash87
(3,220 posts)woman in the Halloween costume. Reddit, for example, is full of cattle-like herds of dimwits like this.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I remember JFK Jr and John Denver costumes, as well as Lady Die ones. It's horrible, because that's part of the catharsis of Halloween.
The Internet is full of asshole vigilantes, in this case wannabe rapist vigilantes.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is it a ghoulish costume? Yep.
Is it Halloween? Yep.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Always with an excuse, after exhibiting piss poor taste. Like clockwork with some, she will no doubt blame everyone in the world for her problems now. Dressing up like a maimed and/or dying bystander at the Boston Marathon...WHO COULD HAVE FIGURED ANYTHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN AS A RESULT!?
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)She admitted her mistake and apologized.
And I say again, no rational person would ever anticipate being threatened with rape as revenge for a lapse in judgement like this.
Rex
(65,616 posts)She dressed up like a bombing victim, because it is HA HA funny...nope sorry don't buy it. Whatever cleverness she thought about herself, has long been proven the mistake.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)she's 22 years old? Wow - young person does something tasteless and offensive, that's a real news flash.
Rex
(65,616 posts)that clueless. I do feel sorry for her over all the heat she is getting by demented people out there that love to hide behind an IP.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)to teach people how to manage a public persona? This happen all the time. People put stuff in public that should be private.
The responses she received were uncalled for but posting something like that costume or nude images of yourself on a public medium is like playing in traffic.
She didn't deserve the response she got but she was certainly asking for it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)are no better than she is imo. I guess it is too hard for some to write a letter of protest on her fb page. No, some have to be BIG MAN and threaten life and limb.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)Her actions are causing her actual consequences. The idiots making threats are able to do so anonymously. In my book that's just chickenshit.
Rex
(65,616 posts)But how does one not realize dressing up as a bombing victim is not going to send people into a rage? I've heard of clueless, but she takes it to another level imo.
She shouldn't expect a McCarthur grant anytime soon.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)Seriously?
rrneck
(17,671 posts)with with highly predictable consequences, it could be said they could, or at least should, have anticipated those consequences. They were by a reasonable person standard anticipating the outcome, or asking for it.
If you jump off a house to break your leg in an insurance scam, you're asking for it just as much as you jumped under the influence of drugs. A consciously self inflicted broken leg is just as irresponsible as imparing ones reasoning ability in a dangerous location.
It should be common knowledge by now that the internet isn't a private place and insulting thousands of people will draw a sizeable, and outsized, negative response. Especially if those responding will suffer no negative consequences.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)she's 22. Who expects dire consequences for stupidity at 22?
rrneck
(17,671 posts)It's reasonable to assume she drives to work. Do you think she drives like a maniac? Do you think she didn't have to learn how to operate a car in a safe manner?
Look at the image. She's in an office. She uses social media. The phenomenon of people saying stupid things on social media and suffering backlash for it is not uncommon, and any reasonable person would expect the same if they broadcast themselves in a costume making light of a tragedy suffered by an entire city.
Anybody that uses technology should assume the responsible use of that technology. "Oh, she's just precocious" might work when she's five, but she's old enough to vote and serve in the military. She's an adult, and she needs to learn to act like one.
Was the response she received over the top and unnecessary? Of course. But one has to ask how her personal information and image got on the internet to begin with. She made a lot of mistakes any prudent adult would have avoided, and like it or not, she's an adult.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)beings don't react to a 22 year old's stupidity with threats.
I didn't say she's just precocious. You sure are puffed up with your idea of how mature and smart you are and were at 22.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)Feel better now? It's not like I have ever said that the responses were in any way the right thing to do.
Okay. Let's try this. It ought to really give you something to misinterpret. It is entirely wrong to force women to wear a pup tent in Saudi Arabia. There isn't anything right about it. They shouldn't do it. Ever. Not at all. Not even a little bit. The men who do it are assholes. Every time. No exceptions. Ever.
Now, having established the obvious fact that making women wear a pup tent only an idiot would walk down the street in Riyadh wearing a bikini and not expect negative consequences. Those consequences would be a moral outrage, but the fact that they are wrong won't keep them from happening. Please note that this is an extreme example to make a point, and I am in no way advocating the compulsory wearing of pup tents by women anywhere in the galaxy.
Now, Ms. Lynch posted an image of herself on the internet, the most efficient distributor of information in the history of the human race, that annoyed a bunch of people. In response they said mean things to her. In a stroke of what has to be one of the most obvious cases of narcissistic stupidity since the last idiot did it, she also posted personal information as well. So not only did she annoy the hell out of a bunch of people, she gave them a way to find her and her family in real life. The technical term for that is Compound Fuck Up. Fortunately, even in light of such foolishness the chances that anything more will come of her mistake are fairly remote simply because most of the assholes that said mean things to her said them from their mother's basement and they're nothing but spineless no life trolls.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)I have said repeatedly that the response was excessive.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)The #boss hashtag is curious.
And when did young women start referring to themselves as skanks and bitches?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I'm surprised I remembered to breathe at that age.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)based on me, my friends, my family, my former classmates, etc. Not saying we didn't make mistakes, but I question Ms. Lynch's overall judgment:
--Extremely poor choice of Halloween costume.
--Carrying on in the workplace (unless a work-sanctioned party; even then, limit alcohol intake and avoid supply closets).
--Nude pics (not a "moral" issue for me, but one of trust and not knowing where they'll end up).
--Posting pic of driver's license to Twitter.
She shared with Buzzfeed that she raped:
And I still don't think she gets it:
Honestly, its the Day of the Dead, she said. I wasnt a dead person, I wasnt being disrespectful. I was a survivor of a marathon. And its not like I was walking around with a fake leg or my arm torn off or something like that.
I do agree that the wholly inappropriate attacks were more vicious because of her gender. I would recommend that she step away from social media for a while... and learn the meaning of the word "discretion."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)But, young women pay for stupidity in ways that men don't.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I can see someone being tasteless in their humor, but dumb enough to post their driver's license on Twitter? Really?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)She has been raped and is being threatened with rape. Disgusting people.
indepat
(20,899 posts)a crime against humanity.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Notice that women online seem to get anonymous rape threats for a variety of "offenses," not just tasteless Halloween costumes. There's apparently a certain segment of psycho woman-haters looking for any chance to unload on somebody.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)....People just need to dial it down a fucking notch....she did something really, really stupid, she apologized, move along...In the grand scheme of things to get wound up about, a tasteless Halloween costume is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list..
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Call me crazy, but I think threatening anyone with rape is much worse than an idiot making a tasteless joke.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)As for her apology.. it was "too soon"?
GTFO
Sad that she isn't even the only idiot who thought a costume like this was clever.
bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)to dress up as "George Zimmerman & dead Trayvon Martin", with a white guy in blackface playing the role of Trayvon Martin.
Somehow, I'm guessing these guys weren't threatened with rape.
boomer55
(592 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)as opposed to middle-aged and stupid today, I'm REALLY glad the internet didn't exist in 1983.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)The Dewey Beach hot tubs alone. Yikes.
Iggo
(47,564 posts)Yikes!
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)This has gone waaaaay too far.
Is it fair that her life is ruined because of a single picture? The reaction was grossly disproportionate with her insensitive costume. At worst, her boss should have pulled her aside and told her to take down the picture or delete her twitter account.
edit- okay, just read and seen the nude. DO NOT PUT YOUR NUDES IN DIGITAL FORMAT! When will people learn that if it's on your phone/laptop/online, millions of people have access.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Death threats??? Are you freaking serious???????
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)I imagine that if it was impossible to hide being anonymity, that there wouldn't have been any death or rape threats.
The cloak of anonymity brings out the worst in people. They knew nobody could find out who they were.
Makes me wish we could subpoena the internet providers to find out who the assholes were so they could get fired too.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)especially the threats of violence, but also the job loss. A distasteful sense of humor is not a mortal sin. Oh, and the photos.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Threatening her.....with rape? And even death?
C'mon, man, that was just way over the top. Seriously.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)This place really sucks sometimes.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Her for the costume and those idiots threatening her with harm. Actually those people are doubly stupid. First for threatening to cause her harm and secondly for doing it online where they can be tracked down.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)This girl is pretty young still, and apparently not extremely smart, but her offense merits being taken to task, and told how offensive and inappropriate it was to dress up like a Boston bombing victim, instead of an Iraqi bombing victim - not losing her job, and threats of violence. It's like people just look for a reason to hate someone, anyone.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)She had no though whatsoever about the victims of the bombing.
The threats of death and rape are three times beyond despicable. No one should have to put up with threats on their life over a damn costume..
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)threats of rape, or death threats.
smackd
(216 posts)and 2) that's why they call it the INTERNET
before anybody flips out, #1 applies to the 'outrage', #2 is re: the pics
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Maybe a "that's not really cool, real people were hurt"
.... fucking up someone's life over something like that is way way worse.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But the rest- yeah. Way out of line.
Zeke L Brimstone
(89 posts)But I do have difficulty sympathizing with her.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)The costume was in poor taste, but that's no reason to threaten her and her family. Posting nude pictures of her is reprehensible. Losing a job over this is stupid.
I hope the pigs who did this to her are happy.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)She's become the latest target of the Internet's contingent of misogynist assholes waiting for the latest woman to attack and slut-shame. These people couldn't give a crap about the Boston marathon bombing - they have a deep anger and hatred towards women.
Notice that when a man does something like this, nobody ever cares. That's because the reaction has nothing to do with the offensive thing that is done. Her biggest offense, to these people is being female.