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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:50 PM Oct 2013

What do Republicans say if Obamacare works?

What do Republicans say if Obamacare works?

By Greg Sargent

With some skittish Democrats suggesting Obamacare delays to deal with the website’s awful problems, I asked a senior administration official how worried the White House is about the possibility of serious Dem defections from the law.

“The key is to fix the website,” the official replied. “Everything flows from that.”

I hope that Democrats get this message, because it’s important. If the Web site gets fixed, and if enrollment numbers end up being tolerably decent – say, at a level both sides can spin as a victory for themselves — the current problems will be forgotten, and the law will probably be okay. If the Web site isn’t fixed by the time we enter the new year and the March 31st enrollment deadline looms, then a delay will actually be required. The law’s long term prospects may be seriously threatened; all political bets will be off; and any positioning Dems did right now just won’t matter.

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There’s no minimizing the political problems the web site is currently creating for Dems, and it remains possible that the politics of Obamacare could get significantly worse. But one possibility that no one seems to be entertaining is that the current battle could end up seriously backfiring on Republicans. If the web site does get fixed — and if demand proves to be such that enough people enroll – what do Republicans say at that point?

Republicans will have spent weeks expressing outrage on behalf of Americans who have been unable to tap into the benefits of Obamacare because of administration incompetence, and on behalf of people who are “losing” coverage because of outrageous liberal Big Government overreach. At that point, though, the web site will be working, and untold numbers of people will be shopping for real, tangible plans. Many on the individual market will find plans that are better, and potentially even cheaper overall — whether because of subsidies, or because the plans don’t disguise their true long term cost, as the current, crappy ones do – than their previous ones. None of this is a given, obviously; again, it all turns on whether the law works.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/31/what-do-republicans-say-if-obamacare-works/

Websites get fixed. Republicans are busy exploiting the time until then, but eventually, they're going to have to come to grips.

You're already seeing it with the Medicaid expansion: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023955227



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What do Republicans say if Obamacare works? (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
"Benghazi!" Blue Owl Oct 2013 #1
Fuck... yourout Oct 2013 #2
They will never say it works or it is good titaniumsalute Oct 2013 #3
Bingo! B Calm Oct 2013 #5
WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Rex Oct 2013 #4
Their standard response--denialism, race-baiting, and abuse of the word 'freedom.' nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #6
You forgot outright lies. Other than that, yeah, that's their ticket. freshwest Oct 2013 #10
Freedom! We're losing our freedom! Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #8
They will find some nutcase who will go on tv redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #9
That is was their idea from the start and Obama stole it to play politics Celefin Oct 2013 #11
3 stages of truth: They laugh at you, try to kill you, then claim it was their idea. Festivito Oct 2013 #12
Define "works"... NoOneMan Oct 2013 #13
"I have diarrhea." eom Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #14
You mean Romneycare? temporary311 Oct 2013 #15
Call it ProSense Oct 2013 #18
Of course Obamacare will work and when it does, bermudat Oct 2013 #16
that is why they are doing everything possible to derail it. spanone Oct 2013 #17
Same thing they do every night, Pinky... JHB Oct 2013 #19

Response to ProSense (Original post)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
9. They will find some nutcase who will go on tv
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:06 PM
Oct 2013

saying a family member died due to the "death panels". They will continue to bang the drum for the 5 percent or less who may pay more (most of this due to Republican governors).

They are good at deception, really good at it.

Celefin

(532 posts)
11. That is was their idea from the start and Obama stole it to play politics
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:02 PM
Oct 2013

They were only shocked because of the malfunctioning website since that would never have happened under their watch.
Because the website glitches amount to death panels.

Trying to kill the ACA 40+ times will by then be conveniently forgotten

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
12. 3 stages of truth: They laugh at you, try to kill you, then claim it was their idea.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oct 2013

Currently they're trying to kill it and Obama by blaming him for the DISASTROUS web site trouble. (As long as no one mentions that there is an 800 number where you can talk to a real person if the web site becomes a bother.)

JHB

(37,163 posts)
19. Same thing they do every night, Pinky...
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:23 PM
Oct 2013

Claim credit for it (Heritage, Romneycare), say they. Ade such a fuss to see that it was done right, and blame Democrats for their hallucination du jour.

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