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I really hate "god bless america" at every fucking ball game. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 OP
I put it on mute alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #1
Agreed........ Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2013 #3
I put on mute and go open another beer. broiles Oct 2013 #66
I am more of a fan of the round of "Take Me Out To the Ballgame" that always ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #2
It's a perfect song for boosters of baseball as a professional sport. Loudly Oct 2013 #25
Here you go. 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #48
Fond childhood memories of Mom singing that song in the car during roadtrips. adirondacker Oct 2013 #113
. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #135
That's awesome! My grandparents weren't big sports fans for whatever reason. adirondacker Oct 2013 #139
I would say 83.4% of people just give it lip service snooper2 Oct 2013 #4
Agreed 100 percent. The fetishization of the military at sporting events is bizarre as well. Brickbat Oct 2013 #5
I had a man demand that my son remove his hat during "God Bless America" once... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #11
God Bless America is really prayer written by Irvng Berlin, originally in 1918. pangaia Oct 2013 #23
That's interesting. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #34
You are too kind. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #83
Of course, if you're former military, you can leave that feed cap on and "hand salute" now... MADem Oct 2013 #118
?????? Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #6
No it hasn't... truebrit71 Oct 2013 #7
ih, confused Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #13
No worries... truebrit71 Oct 2013 #14
So did James Taylor Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #73
It's a 7th inning stretch tune OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #36
Not so. evlbstrd Oct 2013 #8
That's right.... Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #84
I think your phone is acting up. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #9
James Taylor sang America the Beautiful in Boston. El Supremo Oct 2013 #10
When? He was sang The Star Spangled Banner Ilsa Oct 2013 #31
He did that during one of POTUS' inaugural events too ... Myrina Oct 2013 #60
During the seventh inning stretch >> El Supremo Oct 2013 #68
That avatar appears familiar. TexasTowelie Oct 2013 #38
That was pipi_k Oct 2013 #62
God bless you, Warren pintobean Oct 2013 #12
I can't stand it!!! Initech Oct 2013 #15
Why? lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #16
Well for starters it is a stupid mindless nationalist ditty, plus officially we are a secular nation Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #21
Watch out or Yahweh will smite your sorry ass. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #102
It praises America and mentions God. n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #37
It is the de facto national anthem for the nationalist christian theocratic right. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #40
I think it's a lousy song no matter who sings it. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #85
You have my deepest sympathy. I will keep you in my thoughts (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #17
Noxious and obnoxious comment, though not unexpected. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #79
Thanks for the valuable feedback. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #80
You're totally welcome. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #90
Par for the course. morningfog Oct 2013 #94
That one walks a fine line. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #101
An obvious troll pintobean Oct 2013 #119
That's not why. morningfog Oct 2013 #141
Nice. Pray for me too. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #86
My solution DireStrike Oct 2013 #18
I agree sweetapogee Oct 2013 #20
We should ask God to bless the WHOLE WORLD!! Then we wouldn't have wars!! JEFF9K Oct 2013 #19
Or stop pretending that there is a god of baseball... Orsino Oct 2013 #70
Or just stop pretending that there is a god, period. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #103
+1 Go Vols Oct 2013 #117
And nations... and economics... and philosophies... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #130
Never failing to bore. cordelia Oct 2013 #133
I bet the ballplayers hate it even more Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #22
It's such a shitty song. La Marseillaise, now that's an anthem, Russia's isn't bad, England's has Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #24
It's not the anthem. nolabear Oct 2013 #26
Jimi Hendrix national anthem. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #27
TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLLLLL GAME!!! Iggo Oct 2013 #28
Wish it were the national anthem, that or America the Beautiful Rstrstx Oct 2013 #29
Agreed. Thinly disguised RW ( pro-nationalist, pro-religion) propaganda. n/t Smarmie Doofus Oct 2013 #30
Do people stand up during this? enlightenment Oct 2013 #32
Yes, they stand. Ino Oct 2013 #46
Well, I guess I'd be enlightenment Oct 2013 #57
I would absolutely not stand for God Bless America. cui bono Oct 2013 #104
When I am at a game, I ensure I am just getting back from the snack bar when the song starts. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #136
And basketball games PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #52
Neither would I. enlightenment Oct 2013 #55
Keep in mind that Irving Berlin was a refugee from Russia in the 1890s grasswire Oct 2013 #33
Keep in mind that Irving had been dead for decades when suddenly idiots started Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #39
times have changed grasswire Oct 2013 #71
It's different thing for someone to feel that way cui bono Oct 2013 #106
I'll take GBA over John Fogarty singing this nails-on-chalkbard tune any day OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #35
Kate Smith, 1974 Staney Cup Championship ... just for you ... no OBL required. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #41
a) no ball involved. b) not done every game everywhere c) not wrapped in militarism. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #42
Major Sport Championship ... (the stuff some folks here flip out about is hilarious). JoePhilly Oct 2013 #43
Whatever you do pintobean Oct 2013 #44
Bwahahahaha!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #49
I really miss "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" MissMillie Oct 2013 #45
MLB owners are Republican assholes. I hate the version they play geek tragedy Oct 2013 #47
Actually, I like God Bless America Fla Dem Oct 2013 #50
I do to gopiscrap Oct 2013 #51
Glad you are able to release some of your hate here. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #53
They should stop with the God Bless America thing, AND truebluegreen Oct 2013 #54
I love This Land is Your Land. djean111 Oct 2013 #58
I agree completely. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #67
I interpret the Star Spangled Banner differently, as if it's a question ... Myrina Oct 2013 #64
I might agree, except for the rest of the lyrics. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #69
Yes! It drives me crazy Myrina Oct 2013 #75
What Do You Do When Jose turns to you Wolf Frankula Oct 2013 #146
Yes, it's not a good song for a national anthem treestar Oct 2013 #142
It's a way better song the God Bless the USA kydo Oct 2013 #56
It really confuses me at hockey games .... Myrina Oct 2013 #59
when the buffalo sabres play a canadian team they always sing the anthems of both countries. nt dionysus Oct 2013 #91
Wow, nice to know!! Myrina Oct 2013 #93
i'm not big on sports but when i listen on the radio they always do it... i don't know about any dionysus Oct 2013 #95
Color me corrected! Myrina Oct 2013 #144
Its pretty much standard SpartanDem Oct 2013 #145
Yeah, it has run its course IMO.... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #61
That's what I was thinking... how would it end? Perhaps a lawsuit is needed. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #109
And that Stand Up to Cancer thing last night was hoaky, commercialized bullshit AngryAmish Oct 2013 #63
But think of all the jobs it creates at the pink ribbon factory... penultimate Oct 2013 #72
Go take a piss or get another beer. Problem solved. Throd Oct 2013 #65
Your outrage has been noted. kiawah Oct 2013 #74
I'm not sure if they sing that at the Twins new ball park. MineralMan Oct 2013 #76
Check out a St. Paul Saints game. cloudbase Oct 2013 #107
Yah, I go to a few of those each year. MineralMan Oct 2013 #124
Get over it Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #77
Agreed. Jingoistic claptrap. dorkzilla Oct 2013 #78
I haven't said the pledge since I was a sophomore in high school. I always stand up, though. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #82
I remember the Jehovah's Witnesses' Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #87
Repulsive indeed. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #81
Good for you for fighting back. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #89
Thank you. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #92
Oh, and welcome to DU. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #98
Thank you again. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #99
welcome to DU taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #123
Thank you t_m_p! Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #125
sad. n/t taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #121
I don't believe in god, but I love that song. bigwillq Oct 2013 #88
It's fucking pointless to play it during sporting events. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #96
you should have much greater concerns nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #97
Of course. "under god" in pledge and "in god we trust" on currency. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #100
yes. pressing issues arely staircase Oct 2013 #108
Ohhh, "pressing" issues. My mistake. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #110
I'm sure the OP does. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #105
absolutely arely staircase Oct 2013 #111
Yes, hilarious. Just like the story Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #116
us that the one where someone claims they were spat on? arely staircase Oct 2013 #120
No. Please see #11. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #122
why would I do that? arely staircase Oct 2013 #127
Hmmm. Have a great day. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #128
I imagine concern for A rarely denies concern for B, C, and D... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #131
I think you realize my post wasn't meant to be taken literally arely staircase Oct 2013 #137
So do I--never thought I could dislike a song so robustly. MADem Oct 2013 #112
Out of curiosity: I saw a few posters mention 'Sweet Caroline' panader0 Oct 2013 #114
I do believe it is limited to Fenway Park. Missn-Hitch Oct 2013 #126
You'd have point if it was played at every game, but it isn't SpartanDem Oct 2013 #115
The Cincinnati Reds still play it IIRC. Boomerproud Oct 2013 #129
Seriously? What total crap. I also hate how they made 9-11 "Patriot day" quinnox Oct 2013 #132
Such trials and tribulations. cordelia Oct 2013 #134
Don't blame it on bin Laden. . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #138
I don't mind it treestar Oct 2013 #140
It's still just about America for a lot of folks. gulliver Oct 2013 #143

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
2. I am more of a fan of the round of "Take Me Out To the Ballgame" that always
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:46 PM
Oct 2013

made me feel as if I was part of something bigger during a game.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
25. It's a perfect song for boosters of baseball as a professional sport.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:36 PM
Oct 2013

And baseball has a long history as an American institution.

Permission granted to love baseball and hate corruption of baseball.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
135. .
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013
My grandmother had a pair of baseball earrings that she wore to Brewer games when we would go back in the 70s. Time goes by too quickly doesn't it?

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
139. That's awesome! My grandparents weren't big sports fans for whatever reason.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

My mom wasn't even a baseball fan, but enjoyed the tune. She used to have a singalong with us in the car when we were commuting from CT to upstate NY during the late 60's. She was also a big Peter, Paul and Mary fan. My sister and I used to give the peace sign out the window of the car to all passing traffic. I remember being ecstatic when the hippies and bikers would give us the sign back. My mom thought it was hilarious! I recall being frightened by the angry yell from a car window by the occasional con on the road. Usually they just looked at us disgustedly. We were amused

time sure speeds up with age.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
11. I had a man demand that my son remove his hat during "God Bless America" once...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

I told my son,"Seeing as this is not the anthem for our country, you can leave your hat firmly on your head if you wish. But good job remembering to take it off for the 'Star Spangled Banner.'"

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
23. God Bless America is really prayer written by Irvng Berlin, originally in 1918.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013

Then, in 1938, he added the intro.
BOLD is mine.

"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer."

There is lots of historical info here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Bless_America

At a minor league game several years ago, very low minor league, small ball park, I got up after the top of the 7th to go to the can and get something to eat. They started playing GBA. I was wearing the home team baseball cap and just kept walking. As I started to walk out under/between the stands, some old fart leaned over the ledge above me, shouted take off that hat, you Commie! He then spit on me. Rather than climbing the stairs and punching his fucking face in, after which I probably would have had the living hell beat out of me by his buddies, I told the general manager about it. He followed me back inside, I pointed the guy out to him and he threw him out.
But, I now always either make a fast exit or give in and 'uncover."

Plus, they always play Take me Out To The Ballgame after the prayer.


Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
83. You are too kind.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:18 PM
Oct 2013

I would have said, "F*** o**!" but your son was present - so well done. I also believe in removing your cover for the national anthem.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
118. Of course, if you're former military, you can leave that feed cap on and "hand salute" now...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:38 PM
Oct 2013

They changed that rule....probably because it's second nature for someone with a military background to do that anyway!

http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2010-05_veterans.asp

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Veterans May Render Hand Salute
It’s official: Veterans of the Armed Forces, in uniform or in civilian attire, may render the military salute during hoisting, lowering, or passing of the United States flag. Section 9 Title 4 of the United States Code was amended to reflect such action when the U.S. President signed HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 into law on January 28, 2008.

U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) praised the passage by unanimous consent of his bill (S.1877) clarifying U.S. law to allow veterans and servicemen not in uniform to salute the flag, even while not covered.

“I look forward to seeing those who have served saluting proudly at baseball games, parades, and formal events,” he said. “I believe this is an appropriate way to honor and recognize the 25 million veterans in the United States who have served in the military and remain as role models to others citizens. Those who are currently serving or have served in the military have earned this right, and their recognition will be an inspiration to others.”

All veterans should hand salute the flag, instead of holding hand over heart, to show to all that they are veterans instead of civilians who haven’t served. And if covered, you don’t have to remove your hat to salute in honored respect for your military service. Indoors or outdoors, this rule applies; in uniform or in civilian clothes, this rule applies.

Civilians who haven’t served should still remove their hat and hold it or their hand over their heart.
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
7. No it hasn't...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:53 PM
Oct 2013

...and it still isn't unless Faux covers the games it seems...i know they don't sing it at Wrigley at all...

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
36. It's a 7th inning stretch tune
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:00 AM
Oct 2013

It's been played at Yankee Stadium and several other parks since 9-11

Wrigley (and several other parks) do "Take Me Out To The Ballgame"

Miller Park (Milwaukee) plays "The Beer Barrel Polka" (a.k.a. "Roll Out The Barrel&quot

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. I think your phone is acting up.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013


They didn't used to play it at County Stadium or at Tigers Stadium for that matter. The problem I have is how many people demand that other people remove their hats for "our nation's song." It is not, nor has it ever been, anything more than a song. Hats do not need to be taken off for it as they do for the SSB. (and the seats in right field at Comerica are pretty much sunburn alley, so a hat is a necessity)

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
31. When? He was sang The Star Spangled Banner
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:50 PM
Oct 2013

the other night, but started it with the first line from ATB.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
60. He did that during one of POTUS' inaugural events too ...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

.... he starts with America the Beautiful then morphed it into the Star Spangled Banner, IIRC.

It was actually very well done & nobody ever said the 2 songs need to stay separate.

TexasTowelie

(112,422 posts)
38. That avatar appears familiar.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:54 AM
Oct 2013

Could it be that a certain team is undefeated in Big 12 Conference play?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
62. That was
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:08 AM
Oct 2013

one of the ones we sang in school when I was a child (grammar school).

Only the first verse, and I never knew there were other verses to it till years later.

In fact, it was originally a poem written in 1893

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_the_Beautiful

But anyway, part of a later verse always makes me weepy...


O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!



It always did, but even more now, after 9/11.




Initech

(100,102 posts)
15. I can't stand it!!!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:08 PM
Oct 2013

It was bullshit added to the game during the George Bush era. That era is long over, and everything associated with it needs to go away!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
21. Well for starters it is a stupid mindless nationalist ditty, plus officially we are a secular nation
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:21 PM
Oct 2013

And then there is the same problem with this song that there is with athletes who seek divine assistance. Why would the ludicrous Bronze Age mythological sky being Yahweh favor America over for example Brazil? Why Tim Tebow over Peyton Manning? It is just plain stupid.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
102. Watch out or Yahweh will smite your sorry ass.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:20 PM
Oct 2013

Remember, God is love!*

*except for when The Deity is smiting, bringing pestilence, destroying parts of the Midwest with tornados, causing or failing to prevent tsunamis, slaughtering children, and inflicting Ted Nugent on us all

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
85. I think it's a lousy song no matter who sings it.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Oct 2013

After 9/11, I believe the song was implemented at all parks (minus Wrigley) during the 7th inning stretch. It would be interesting to find out how this decision was made. Anyway, it is a religious song and it is insulting to those of us who believe we are a global community as opposed to an Us and Them mentality. God Bless America and to hell with everyone else is what I hear.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
119. An obvious troll
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

because he won't join in on the attack of people exercising their first amendment rights.

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
20. I agree
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:19 PM
Oct 2013

2 hours of mindless activity on the playing field and all this worry about the 60 seconds before the kickoff.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
70. Or stop pretending that there is a god of baseball...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:15 PM
Oct 2013

...that will tweak the outcome of a game in favor of those who sing louder.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
130. And nations... and economics... and philosophies...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

And nations... and economics... and philosophies... which are all nothing but a projection of little more than imagination and nothing else.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
24. It's such a shitty song. La Marseillaise, now that's an anthem, Russia's isn't bad, England's has
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:32 PM
Oct 2013

probably had more different lyrics written to it than any other and is quite catchy, and even Canada managed to come up with a stirring and pleasant melody. How the fuck did we end up with this ugly, dated exercise in Victorian Somnambulance?

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
29. Wish it were the national anthem, that or America the Beautiful
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:38 PM
Oct 2013

The Star Spangled Banner is not the easiest song (how many people actually try to sing it while an orchestra plays it?)

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
32. Do people stand up during this?
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:01 AM
Oct 2013

As I'm not a baseball fan, I had no idea they were playing this song.

Totally bizarre.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
46. Yes, they stand.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:23 AM
Oct 2013

Sometimes an announcer says, "Please stand for Blah-Blah singing 'God Bless America.'

I blame Congress for this, gathering on the steps of the Capitol to sing it on 9/11. That's who started it.

Now no one can stop for fear of being unpatriotic.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
104. I would absolutely not stand for God Bless America.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:21 PM
Oct 2013

If this post had been during the regular season I would have gone to a game just so I could remain seated for it.

God needs to butt out of public events.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
136. When I am at a game, I ensure I am just getting back from the snack bar when the song starts.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

Then I sit down, with my hat on, drink my beer, and talk loudly with those around me.

Never had anyone said anything, although I have gotten some dirty looks. I usually respond to those looks with my own look that says "go on, I dare you to say something."

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
33. Keep in mind that Irving Berlin was a refugee from Russia in the 1890s
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:02 AM
Oct 2013

His only childhood memory there in Russia was lying in a blanket aside the road and watching the family's home burned to the ground in a brutal pogram. His prayer was not a sappy artificial thing. We can assume that he realllllly did want to say God Bless America!

When we consider the song from the viewpoint of an immigrant who escaped violent oppression and grinding poverty, it's pretty touching, IMO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Berlin

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
39. Keep in mind that Irving had been dead for decades when suddenly idiots started
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:01 AM
Oct 2013

singing that awful ditty at ballgames. It is an awful sappy idiotic nationalistic tune.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
71. times have changed
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:20 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:18 PM - Edit history (1)

The song was introduced at the twentieth anniversary of the ending of WW1, toward the end of the Great Depression. It served a national yearning then and expressed the will of the era in the hearts of Americans. Berlin took the central phrase from his mother' daily uttering; so thankful was the family for a place that had welcomed them when they fled despotism. Every day, she said it. God bless America.

It is not an awful ditty or a sappy idiotic nationalistic tune. You reveal some ignorance with that remark. Your life experience is simply different from that of the lyricist.

That awful country western tune is a sappy idiotic nationalistic tune: God bless the USA.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
106. It's different thing for someone to feel that way
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:25 PM
Oct 2013

than it is to subject millions of sports fans to a song like that, that connects religion to America. A lot of Americans don't believe in God and a lot of them believe in other gods. It's bullshit to keep shoving god down our throats, it's actually quite disgusting.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
35. I'll take GBA over John Fogarty singing this nails-on-chalkbard tune any day
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:48 AM
Oct 2013


Hate it! Hate it! Hate it!

My only issue with GBA is the same issue I have with the SSB -- people oversing it. Just let the music do the work. My advice -- listen to a recording by Kate Smith, and just do what she does.

Kate Smith used to sing GBA at Flyers games instead of the SSB, which I thought was cool.

The only modern patriotic tune I really dislike is "God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood.
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
42. a) no ball involved. b) not done every game everywhere c) not wrapped in militarism.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:13 AM
Oct 2013

Just for you. Oh and Kate was a stuck up right wing stooge. Which was why she had a sorry career singing GBA.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
43. Major Sport Championship ... (the stuff some folks here flip out about is hilarious).
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:16 AM
Oct 2013

"OMG ... they played a song at a ball game!!!!"

Next you'll be telling us that the BOMB in football is really a way to get Americans to support drone strikes.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
47. MLB owners are Republican assholes. I hate the version they play
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:25 AM
Oct 2013

at Yankee stadium (f@cking Ronan Tynan).

Fla Dem

(23,743 posts)
50. Actually, I like God Bless America
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:27 AM
Oct 2013

when sung at the appropriate time. For a ball game give me Sweet Caroline anytime.

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
51. I do to
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:46 AM
Oct 2013

and if stadiums received any public funding for construction they should constitutionally not be allowed to sing it there.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
54. They should stop with the God Bless America thing, AND
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:52 AM
Oct 2013

the America the Beautiful thing (even tho it was written about my home state) AND change the national anthem to one that 1) doesn't glorify war and 2) people can actually sing.

I vote for This Land Is Your Land.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
58. I love This Land is Your Land.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:02 AM
Oct 2013

But - for quite a while now, it is not true. Literally makes me tear up.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
67. I agree completely.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

But it would define something we want to be, and set a goal, without the baggage of a battle hymn...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
64. I interpret the Star Spangled Banner differently, as if it's a question ...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:12 AM
Oct 2013

.... it IS a song about the Flag, not the "bombs bursting in air".

"Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?"

The question I always ponder is ... does the flag fly over the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, or have we become something else ... as opposed to people who interpret it to ask whether or not the flag is still flying "by the dawn's early light" or the ones who just turn it into a mindless "hoo-rah our military is best" anthem & don't actually ponder the words ...



 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
69. I might agree, except for the rest of the lyrics.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oct 2013

I guess I've just never liked the song. It is all about fighting to preserve the land of the free etc etc etc and is too easily co-opted to prop up our militarism. I think it needs to be changed.

It is also impossible to sing.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
75. Yes! It drives me crazy
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

... that nearly everyone who sings it thinks there is a pause at the end of each line.

Just like any other poem, because there's empty space doesn't mean it's the end of a sentence or thought.
And there's nothing in the "instructions" that calls for certain words toooooo beeeeeee drawnn OOOUUUUUTTTTTTT to infinity.





treestar

(82,383 posts)
142. Yes, it's not a good song for a national anthem
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:22 AM
Oct 2013

Most of them are hymn-like, meant for ordinary people to be able to sing. The lyrics will be about how beautiful the country is, how it's home. It's odd psychology that we have one with lyrics about a time we were under attack.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
59. It really confuses me at hockey games ....
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:04 AM
Oct 2013

... to see players having to stand thru the National Anthem & GBA when probably 50-75% of them aren't US Born.
We don't sing the Canadian, Russian or Finn National Anthems, or even acknowledge their flags in the arenas.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
93. Wow, nice to know!!
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:57 PM
Oct 2013

I've not seen it for the Blackhawks or at the college/junior/minor pro level

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
95. i'm not big on sports but when i listen on the radio they always do it... i don't know about any
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:59 PM
Oct 2013

other teams!

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
144. Color me corrected!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:07 PM
Oct 2013

Ottawa is playing Chicago tonight at Chicago's arena & they just sang Oh Canada - before the Star Spangled Banner.

Well done!

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
145. Its pretty much standard
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013

in US sports if a Canadian(or any foreign team for that matter) team is playing here we play their anthem. If you go to a Blackhawks game and they're playing Toronto, Winnipeg,etc they'll play "Oh Canada"

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
61. Yeah, it has run its course IMO....
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:07 AM
Oct 2013

The thing is no team wants to be the first to end the tradition (and the PR shitstorm that will follow)

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
63. And that Stand Up to Cancer thing last night was hoaky, commercialized bullshit
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:09 AM
Oct 2013

After seeing the 10 trillionth pink ribbon, I can assure that I am quite aware that breast cancer exists.

Fucking grifters.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
72. But think of all the jobs it creates at the pink ribbon factory...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:24 PM
Oct 2013

Well, I'm off to go 'like' some facebook posts that will cure cancer if they get 1,000,000 likes by the end of this week.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
76. I'm not sure if they sing that at the Twins new ball park.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:47 PM
Oct 2013

Every time I've gone to a game, I've left, shaking my head, before the 7th Inning Stretch. In the Twin Cities, we don't have a professional baseball team any longer. We have the Twins. Uff da!

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
77. Get over it
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

You're watching a ball game while people in other countries fight to survive till the next day.

We have our problems, but we're doing far better than most

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
78. Agreed. Jingoistic claptrap.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013

And I refuse to say the pledge of allegiance. "Under God" my ass. I won't say the pledge till they omit those words and cease spying on people, and then only when I HAVE to.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
82. I haven't said the pledge since I was a sophomore in high school. I always stand up, though.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:16 PM
Oct 2013

Believe me, if you wanted to get negative attention in 1963, not saying the flag salute was the way to go.

My problem was the 'with liberty and justice for all' section.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
87. I remember the Jehovah's Witnesses'
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:38 PM
Oct 2013

My first exposure to not reciting the pledge in the 6th grade. I can't remember if they stood or not. I wasn't angry, I actually respected them for it. Not enough to disregard my critical thinking skills to convert, but respect.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
92. Thank you.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:56 PM
Oct 2013

The world would be a better place without God Bless America at all venues, secular and religious. What reveals character is a biting whit and, by reading your other posts within this thread, yours is a gruesome bite. May God bless you and help you find a parking spot near the front of your local shopping center.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
99. Thank you again.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oct 2013

A blue dog, huh? Reading some of your other posts. I have been visiting DU since 2002.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
123. welcome to DU
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:00 PM
Oct 2013

Ignore this sad and pathetic poster who intentionally posts bitter snark in a desperate cry for attention.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
88. I don't believe in god, but I love that song.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

It's such a beautiful song. I love when they sing it at a ballgame. I have no issue with them singing it.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
100. Of course. "under god" in pledge and "in god we trust" on currency.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:10 PM
Oct 2013

We are concerned about a number of things. This just happens to be one of them.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
105. I'm sure the OP does.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

Is it not permitted to also vent about some slightly lesser concerns? Isn't that also what a discussion board is for?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
111. absolutely
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:29 PM
Oct 2013

All kinds of trivialities are discussed here and I suppose this is no different. I just think people getting bent out of shape over a song at a baseball game is kinda funny.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
116. Yes, hilarious. Just like the story
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:34 PM
Oct 2013

previously posted about someone asking his kid to remove his hat while the song was being played. Was that you?

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
122. No. Please see #11.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

I agree with you about the "spat" upon. Again, have you asked someone to remove their hat during a rendition of gba?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
131. I imagine concern for A rarely denies concern for B, C, and D...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:13 PM
Oct 2013

I imagine our concern for A rarely denies our concern for B, C, and D...

Hence, the OP may in fact hold greater concerns. Quite possible you could ask that person... or simply continue to pretend that your premise is valid if that's easier.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
137. I think you realize my post wasn't meant to be taken literally
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:46 PM
Oct 2013

but rather an intentional use of hyperbole to point out the silliness of having a stroke (again, intentional hyperbole) over a song at a baseball game.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
112. So do I--never thought I could dislike a song so robustly.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

I used to enjoy hearing the old Kate Smith version, years ago--it's a rousing tune, in small doses, regardless of one's religious perspective. However, sung over and over again, because we "have" to, it's like a dirge--it's opressive, obnoxious, irritating!!!!!

Give me "Take me out to the Ball Game" any day....! That used to be the paradigm for the Seventh Inning Stretch.

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
115. You'd have point if it was played at every game, but it isn't
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

only 3 teams the Braves, Yankees and the Dodgers still play the song during the 7th inning stretch. I haven't watched the world series game all the way through maybe they've done for all those games, but the vast majority teams stopped playing it years ago.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
132. Seriously? What total crap. I also hate how they made 9-11 "Patriot day"
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oct 2013

It is listed on the fucking calendar now! Look at 9-11 - it says "Patriot day"

9-11 put such bull shit nationalism into this country, all the sheep can rally around our precious flag!

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
138. Don't blame it on bin Laden. . .
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

. . . blame it on a corrupt administration that saw 9-11 as a ripe opportunity to build public support for war-making-for-fun-and-profit and cynically exploited patriotic fervor in the wake of 9-11 in service of that agenda. Blame it also on the American public that allowed itself to be taken in by the hucksters of the Bush administration. Osama bin Laden owns the 9-11 attacks. Everything that happened in the wake of it belongs to us.

gulliver

(13,195 posts)
143. It's still just about America for a lot of folks.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:20 AM
Oct 2013

It really should be about loving America mostly. I feel sorry for folks who put a belligerent emphasis on God. I think that is both unpatriotic and a little irreligious.

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