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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:34 PM Oct 2013

EARTHQUAKE: near Cali and AZ, Ok this is somewhat significant

M6.4 - GULF OF CALIFORNIA

Preliminary Earthquake Report
Magnitude 6.4
Date-Time
19 Oct 2013 17:54:56 UTC
19 Oct 2013 10:54:56 near epicenter
19 Oct 2013 09:54:56 standard time in your timezone
Location 26.271N 110.178W
Depth 1 km
Distances
74 km (45 mi) SW of Etchoropo, Mexico
82 km (50 mi) SW of Huatabampo, Mexico
99 km (61 mi) SSW of Villa Juarez, Mexico
106 km (65 mi) WNW of Ahome, Mexico
816 km (505 mi) SSE of Phoenix, Arizona
Location Uncertainty Horizontal: 0.0 km; Vertical 4.6 km
Parameters Nph = 188; Dmin = 314.2 km; Rmss = 1.23 seconds; Gp = 128°
Version = 1
Event ID us b000khbc

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EARTHQUAKE: near Cali and AZ, Ok this is somewhat significant (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 OP
Yep 6.4 is significant malaise Oct 2013 #1
I guess no news is good news nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #2
Of course you felt nothing. Codeine Oct 2013 #18
...and two smaller ones near the Yellowstone caldera in the last 2 days. roamer65 Oct 2013 #3
The caldera is far enough I am sure they are independent nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #4
Hard to say, Nadin. roamer65 Oct 2013 #9
That is one thing Professor Abbott (A local geologist) nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10
that's not near California AZ Mike Oct 2013 #5
The Gulf of California is NOT anywhere near Texas. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7
That quake is as close to Texas as it is to California. MineralMan Oct 2013 #13
The Sea of Cortez and the Gulf of California are one and the same, FWIW. cbayer Oct 2013 #19
Professional journalists can't be bothered with things like facts and names Codeine Oct 2013 #22
I know, Gulf of California is the usage mostly in the US nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #33
I've always like the name 'Vermilion Sea' for that one, but I'm not petronius Oct 2013 #40
And we all learn something new nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #41
I've not heard that used much. Sea of Cortez is the preferred name cbayer Oct 2013 #46
John Steinbeck favored that name Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #47
So sorry about your boat. cbayer Oct 2013 #49
I think it's pretty archaic, and unusual even in that context. I just wish it would petronius Oct 2013 #48
Not planning on returning at this point, but will hopefully have internet access off cbayer Oct 2013 #50
Wow, even more exciting petronius Oct 2013 #51
Thanks so much, petronius. cbayer Oct 2013 #52
I'm confused then. AZ Mike Oct 2013 #28
The copy and paste in the op states Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #32
I said near AZ and Caifornia, not Juarez. If I am to be very exact, Hermosillo and Guaymas are the nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #34
I just eyeballed the map Codeine Oct 2013 #31
Give it a rest. zappaman Oct 2013 #36
I am as humbled by your post Codeine Oct 2013 #37
Yikes! MoonRiver Oct 2013 #6
Near is subjective Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #8
"Significant" as well, it looks like. Brickbat Oct 2013 #20
That's like five hundred miles from California, give or take. Codeine Oct 2013 #11
No. That's not near California. MineralMan Oct 2013 #12
Almost as bad as saying "Frisco" grasswire Oct 2013 #14
Yes. Annoying. MineralMan Oct 2013 #15
Uttering that abominable word is a High Misdemeanor in the City. Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #23
All Hail Emperor Norton! MineralMan Oct 2013 #25
or "San Fran" Sanddog42 Oct 2013 #53
get over yourself FirstLight Oct 2013 #16
Nice. Your little smilie is really cool, bro. MineralMan Oct 2013 #21
To be fair, if you're going to shorten 500+ miles to "near" Codeine Oct 2013 #17
That reminds me, whatever happened to Az? He/she used to be one of my favorite posters n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #24
Didn't feel a thing in Los Angeles. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #26
Me either. zappaman Oct 2013 #27
I should think not. Codeine Oct 2013 #30
From the shake map Hermosillo barely did nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #35
Did you ever give any updates pintobean Oct 2013 #29
I don't have much experience with earthquakes but we had one last summer or the one before. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #38
Yup, old rock tends to carry it better nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #39
Wait a minute... Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2013 #42
Tucson would be at the outer edge of where you would feel it, if you did nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #43
It was not really that much. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2013 #44
Sounds about right. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #45
From what I heard on the news there is no major damage. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #54
Mexico has good engineering nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #55

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
9. Hard to say, Nadin.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

Plate tectonics is something we are just grasping and most of the American west geography is a result of the pressure between the North American and Pacific plates.

What worries me is all the adjusting the Pacific plate has done in the South Pacific in recent years has to mean the boundary with the North American plate needs to "catch up". The two nightmare scenarios are of course a major San Andreas quake in CA or a subduction zone quake in the Pacific Northwest.

Be safe out there folks and you 2, Nadin.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. That is one thing Professor Abbott (A local geologist)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:49 PM
Oct 2013

has mentioned that the major quakes off Chile, that continue by the way, will lead to a major event further up and down the Ring of Fire, not just the NA section of the plate.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. The Gulf of California is NOT anywhere near Texas.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:44 PM
Oct 2013

Not one bit. It was also on the northern edge of it. Not the sea of Cortez mind you. Even the map from USGS places it near the northern edge, near those two states.


Here you go, from the USGS site

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000khbc#summary

By the way, the shake map is clear that it was not felt anywhere in the US. And Guaymas and Hermosillo barely did.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
13. That quake is as close to Texas as it is to California.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

I can see the map, too. Zoom out, and you'll understand.

Now, it's close to Baja California, of course. Not very close to the state of California in the USA, though. No closer than it is to Texas. In fact, this earthquake is as irrelevant to California and Arizona as it is to Texas.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Professional journalists can't be bothered with things like facts and names
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

and distances and stuff.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
46. I've not heard that used much. Sea of Cortez is the preferred name
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:55 PM
Oct 2013

used by boaters in this region.

Leaving for there tomorrow!

Brother Buzz

(36,507 posts)
47. John Steinbeck favored that name
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

To wit: The Log from the Sea of Cortez

I sailed there fifteen years ago and left the boat in dry storage in La Paz for future adventures. It was destroyed in a hurricane. After insurance adjustments, it was sold for a dollar eight Pesos to a local fisherman. If you see a thirty-five foot cold-molded Quarter Ton converted to a fishing boat, that it.

On edit: Are you doing the Baja Ha-ha?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
49. So sorry about your boat.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:47 PM
Oct 2013

I will look for it!

We are not doing the Baja Ha-ha. I think they are leaving in two weeks or so. We are taking both the boat and the car down there (me in the car) starting tomorrow and plan to stay..... who knows how long!!

Thinking about putting it on the hard during hurricane season and doing some traveling.

Then eventually through the canal to the Caribbean.

Adventure of a lifetime.

Get another boat, darn it!

petronius

(26,613 posts)
48. I think it's pretty archaic, and unusual even in that context. I just wish it would
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:22 PM
Oct 2013

come back...

Have a great voyage! Hope you'll regale us with tales and photos of krakens, sirens, and sea serpents when you return...

petronius

(26,613 posts)
51. Wow, even more exciting
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 05:55 PM
Oct 2013

Just saw your other reply, and it sounds like an epic adventure is in store. Best of luck, and I do hope that connectivity works out from time to time...

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
52. Thanks so much, petronius.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oct 2013

I am pretty sure we will have a connection for at least the first month, as we will be in a marina. But don't know after that.

I'm really excited about this major change in life. It's the kind of thing that has kept me going throughout my years and I am very ready.

Brother Buzz

(36,507 posts)
32. The copy and paste in the op states
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:41 PM
Oct 2013

Villa Juárez in the state of Sinaloa, not Ciudad Juárez, on the border

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. I said near AZ and Caifornia, not Juarez. If I am to be very exact, Hermosillo and Guaymas are the
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

closest and the shake map has nothing on them.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
31. I just eyeballed the map
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:41 PM
Oct 2013

and it looks like this 'quake was in point of fact a little bit closer to Texas than it was to California.

But I'm pretty sure Villa Juarez (the place referenced in the description) and Ciudad Juarez (the border town) are two different places.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
36. Give it a rest.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

Enough already.
Who cares where it was?
The important thing is you read it here first.
That's called a "scoop".
And as any journo knows,(meaning YOU don't know this), a scoop does not have to be accurate.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
37. I am as humbled by your post
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:48 PM
Oct 2013

as a screaming coyote desperately climbing a tree to escape the free-flowing electricity pouring into the earth from a wind turbine.

Well played, sir. Well played.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. That's like five hundred miles from California, give or take.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:49 PM
Oct 2013

Significantly further than the distance from LA to SF, unless I'm mistaken.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
12. No. That's not near California.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 02:55 PM
Oct 2013

That's an earthquake in Mexico. It's 505 miles from Phoenix, for pete's sake.

And it's California, not "Cali." Nobody who is actually from California calls it "Cali." Teenage girls in Minnesota call it "Cali."

Truly.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
15. Yes. Annoying.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

Worse, for those who use those "nicknames," it marks them clearly as newbies if they come to the state. If they move there, they learn pretty soon. At least most of them do.

Brother Buzz

(36,507 posts)
23. Uttering that abominable word is a High Misdemeanor in the City.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

"Whoever after due and proper warning shall be heard to utter the abominable word "Frisco," which has no linguistic or other warrant, shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor, and shall pay into the Imperial Treasury as penalty the sum of twenty-five dollars." -NORTON I Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico. (1872)

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. To be fair, if you're going to shorten 500+ miles to "near"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013

then shaving a few letters off the name of the state is a logical next step.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. I should think not.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:33 PM
Oct 2013

Her "close" earthquake was something in the neighborhood of 700 miles away from you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. From the shake map Hermosillo barely did
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

as well, and that was very close. It is on the fault, that is all.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
29. Did you ever give any updates
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

or analysis on last week's Pakistani earthquake? If you did, I missed it.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
38. I don't have much experience with earthquakes but we had one last summer or the one before.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:55 PM
Oct 2013

It was in VA and we felt it all over the northeast. Has to do with the kind of rock we have.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. Yup, old rock tends to carry it better
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 03:58 PM
Oct 2013

We are on somewhat, relatively speaking new rock.

And it is breaking all the time. As I keep saying substrate matters at how far it carries and damage.

I live on a wonderful sandy ground, where a relatively shallow quake will do a lot more damage than the same quake where my mom lives, in Mexico City, which is old basalt.

It is a fascinating science what and why quakes do what they do.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
42. Wait a minute...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:14 PM
Oct 2013

Was there any numbers for Tucson??

At that time there was something here. Me and some others just thought some pilot was pretending to be "Maverick" again.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. Tucson would be at the outer edge of where you would feel it, if you did
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oct 2013

so would be the TJ and Southern San Diego County depending on the direction of wave travel

The numbers are at the epicenter not the edges though.



Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
44. It was not really that much.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

Just enough for us to look up to see if we could see "Maverick" doing a illegal fly by.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
45. Sounds about right.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 04:24 PM
Oct 2013

I was at the coffee shop writing and it was just there. I did not think I felt it, but I think I did. More like the window rattled for a second, at most.

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