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pintobean

(18,101 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:25 PM Oct 2013

House stenographer: Holy Spirit moved me

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:43 PM - Edit history (1)

The House stenographer that took over a microphone and began shouting in the House chamber Wednesday night told a Fox News reporter that the Holy Spirit compelled her to do it.

“For the past 2 and 1/2 weeks, the Holy Spirit has been waking me up in the middle of the night and preparing me (through my reluctance and doubt) to deliver a message in the House Chamber,” stenographer Dianne Foster Reidy told Fox News’s Chad Pergram in a written statement. “That is what I did last night.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/house-stenographer-holy-spirit-moved-me-98486.html

ETA (thanks to bunnies in post 77) -

Dan Reidy, husband of Hse stenographer Dianne says his wife is a "level-headed wonderful woman of God. I am proud of her."


https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/390834973529628672
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House stenographer: Holy Spirit moved me (Original Post) pintobean Oct 2013 OP
insane in the brain spanone Oct 2013 #1
wonder when the spirit will okieinpain Oct 2013 #28
Who ya gonna call?? yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #129
The holy spirit was in bed with her? What did he look like? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #2
Well, if he looks like Don Draper...... llmart Oct 2013 #61
I was watching live on C-Span (no commentary) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #3
Me too sharp_stick Oct 2013 #34
Sigh get the red out Oct 2013 #4
You are still correct and right to do so kydo Oct 2013 #7
Its still quite possible shes mentally ill. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #8
Many millions of people hear God talking to them all the time; maybe close to 1/2 of Americans? AlinPA Oct 2013 #100
I doubt they mean it literally, and besides that, we hold internal conversations all the time... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #135
As a long time atheist Trajan Oct 2013 #9
huh? this a textbook indication of spiralling mania cali Oct 2013 #10
Where's that farm? pintobean Oct 2013 #14
uh, you don't actually think you have any evidence that she didn't cali Oct 2013 #21
"You're smarter than that." Link Speed Oct 2013 #140
I'm smart enough to wait for the facts. pintobean Oct 2013 #147
It is true, she's no worse than Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin treestar Oct 2013 #30
The only difference is that Bachmann is a member BlueStreak Oct 2013 #86
She's probably proud of this, Cali. dawg Oct 2013 #42
if, as I believe, she suffered a manic break cali Oct 2013 #52
I don't think she suffered a psychotic break. dawg Oct 2013 #62
+1 LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #102
When I first saw the video, my first impression was a psychotic break steve2470 Oct 2013 #96
That was not "manic speech"... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #108
Appearing with Fox 'news' makes me think she was giving her message with some forethought. AlinPA Oct 2013 #99
But she is NOT "utterly crushed and humiliated" by what she did... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #107
Dan Reidy, husband of Hse stenographer Dianne says... bunnies Oct 2013 #77
I'm sure her god could take care of him or herself.....at least from what I know about god, (in my louslobbs Oct 2013 #143
"not once, did he ever wake me up in the middle of the night to ..." dawg Oct 2013 #146
lol, OMG...when's the next 40 days 40 nights rain thingy due? And good luck in advance collecting louslobbs Oct 2013 #148
Are you sure about that? Jamastiene Oct 2013 #63
And her defense of her remarks... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #105
Just what society needs ... Trajan Oct 2013 #5
Hmm, pretty sure that was a manic episode, not the Holy Spirit. Barack_America Oct 2013 #6
yep. I'm quite sure that it was mania. cali Oct 2013 #13
Yes, exploitation at it's finest get the red out Oct 2013 #43
Exploiting her? jberryhill Oct 2013 #51
This was mental illness, not "conviction". Barack_America Oct 2013 #59
Because we don't share her beliefs? jberryhill Oct 2013 #66
Because a non-existent entity repeatedly woke her from sleep and commanded her? Barack_America Oct 2013 #74
Saying "religious people aren't crazy unless they actually believe their religion".... jberryhill Oct 2013 #79
I'm going to call it "delusional". And yes, I realize I am implicating most fundies.... Barack_America Oct 2013 #83
Well, she has a Constitutionally protected delusion jberryhill Oct 2013 #87
The difference is that Code Pink protesters are there to protest starroute Oct 2013 #106
Edward Snowden "was there as an employee" too jberryhill Oct 2013 #128
And your point is? starroute Oct 2013 #137
Acting on one's convictions is not a mental illness jberryhill Oct 2013 #138
It's not her employment in a narrow sense -- it's her general situation starroute Oct 2013 #139
Have we all not heard what she had to say? jberryhill Oct 2013 #145
Exactly. /nt pintobean Oct 2013 #60
So she really is nothing more than a religious zealot? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #11
Nutjob fundie confirmed. Can we drop the "have some compassion" bullshit now? BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12
no. you can be a right wing fundie and have a manic break. cali Oct 2013 #17
I might be missing something... dorkzilla Oct 2013 #47
she wasn't on fox last night. and no, she hasn't been released cali Oct 2013 #54
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. dorkzilla Oct 2013 #64
We now know she was released some time ago muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #119
Okay so she's just a religious nut job. dorkzilla Oct 2013 #141
She did this deliberately, and out of her professed convictions jberryhill Oct 2013 #53
And now her hubby is coming out to say how proud he is of her. bunnies Oct 2013 #84
She heard voices in her head tkmorris Oct 2013 #90
Yeah, so, how do you expect people to hear God? jberryhill Oct 2013 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author scheming daemons Oct 2013 #115
Admit it, she is just a right wing nut, not mentally insane. Admit you are wrong on this. nt Logical Oct 2013 #151
I don't think that's going to happen pintobean Oct 2013 #153
yeah she knew what she was doing. surprised okieinpain Oct 2013 #68
Yes you have my permission to point and laugh... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #109
Many people thought Andrea Yates was a "nutjob fundie" before... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #149
Holy Shit wendylaroux Oct 2013 #15
Holy Shit is what she said last night nt riqster Oct 2013 #33
You are correct! wendylaroux Oct 2013 #44
I told you so Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #16
sorry, this is supporting evidence for spiraling mania cali Oct 2013 #39
I'm afraid your psycholgical diagnosis is lacking my friend Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #65
If a post upthread about her husband is true, deutsey Oct 2013 #81
Meet Your New CBN C-Host Stallion Oct 2013 #18
the holy spirit wakes me in the middle of the night so that i can take a piss frylock Oct 2013 #19
My bursts of laughter over this situation are directly from the holy spirit. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #24
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA !!!!!! RagAss Oct 2013 #111
We'll need an old priest and a young priest. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #20
Well, there's the problem! KansDem Oct 2013 #22
So it was a premeditated act. Thank you for the confession. Now prosecute her. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #23
you don't know anything whatsoever about bi-polar illness do you? cali Oct 2013 #26
alleged mental illness. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #38
Well said. There are definitely some mental issues going on to elicit this RKP5637 Oct 2013 #41
As a nurse, I know all about MI tavernier Oct 2013 #122
LOL, this is getting old. nt Logical Oct 2013 #152
The Holy Spirit moved you to the unemployment line. 1000words Oct 2013 #25
What makes you think she's been or will be fired? cali Oct 2013 #27
By every right, she should. 1000words Oct 2013 #29
so if it's established that she was suffering a manic break cali Oct 2013 #35
As stenographer, it is vital that she record proceedings accurately 1000words Oct 2013 #67
You think a delusional mentally ill person should be allowed to work anywhere near our elected kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #82
I'd rather see her hospitalized and treated n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #69
If she is ill, of course. 1000words Oct 2013 #73
Point Gore1FL Oct 2013 #78
I would be pretty pissed at the Holy Spirit, myself. There's nothing that important TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #31
lol Quayblue Oct 2013 #49
Extreme religiosity + sleep deprivation.... Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2013 #32
More Likely Headed to the Christian Gravy Train Stallion Oct 2013 #36
A psychiatrist can help with impulsive delusional behavior, god words will not RKP5637 Oct 2013 #37
Thankfully she has Obamacare now! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #50
We've seen that so many times, identification with god/religion delusionally giving one RKP5637 Oct 2013 #58
and they gravitate towards the Republicans because.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #71
Definitely, very very sick. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #120
The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #40
Good for you it wasn't Allah, lady. You'd be lynched by the GOP... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2013 #45
wow. bunnies Oct 2013 #46
This is their whole "speaking in tongues" mentality... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #48
Show me on the doll where God touched you... n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #55
Bwahahaha. Lex Oct 2013 #70
Poor woman. I think the case for mania resulting in a psychotic break is strong. nolabear Oct 2013 #56
OFFS... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #114
Well I guess I wasn't talking to you and those people then, was I? nolabear Oct 2013 #121
Do you know pintobean personally? ljm2002 Oct 2013 #123
I didn't take that as being directed at me pintobean Oct 2013 #124
Thanks, Boss. It wasn't. nolabear Oct 2013 #126
Upon re-reading the OP, I agree with you... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #127
Fine. Mentally ill people don't email news channels. But you're right. I don't know her. nolabear Oct 2013 #125
Once again: ljm2002 Oct 2013 #132
I'd go nuts too, if my job was to type that shit. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #57
hahahaha... exactly, imagine typing all that crap those teanuts blather on about? Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #72
+ 1 arely staircase Oct 2013 #116
And I have to respect that? Iggo Oct 2013 #75
Listen Ligyron Oct 2013 #76
And when the "holy spirit compels her to bring a gun into the House and shoot kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #80
Dan Reidy, husband of House stenographer Dianne says his wife is a "level-headed wonderful woman kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #85
Yep. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ bunnies Oct 2013 #88
I added your info to the OP pintobean Oct 2013 #92
Can you let up on the gun crap? pintobean Oct 2013 #89
Are we sure the Holey Spirit is unarmed or didn't draw quickly enough? nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #91
No. These people want liberals dead. She might just as easily have decided kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #95
Is "level headed woman of God" an oxymoron? tularetom Oct 2013 #112
does the majority party hire such people? napkinz Oct 2013 #118
Hell yeah. I'm thinking it's probably a job qualification. They're probably all just like her. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #131
Been there 8 years pintobean Oct 2013 #134
Andrea Yates' husband thought she was pretty special too... nt ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #150
She sounds like my fundie sister-in-law. frogmarch Oct 2013 #93
I'm not going to feel sorry for her n2doc Oct 2013 #94
If she had been running around saying that, I would vote for her The Straight Story Oct 2013 #98
So she hasn't had a psychotic break, she's just religious. MNBrewer Oct 2013 #101
*** Breaking News *** ... She's running for Michelle Bachmann's seat. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #103
Religions have been exploiting the mentally ill for millenia SamYeager Oct 2013 #104
Where the Fuck is Jim Jones when we need him ? RagAss Oct 2013 #110
soo... she is a christian fundamentalist whack job scheming daemons Oct 2013 #113
That's funny, fundie extraordinaire David Barton insists that the Constitution is Biblical. tanyev Oct 2013 #117
So the constitution is biblical Pakhet Oct 2013 #142
so cra cra. lunasun Oct 2013 #130
Totes cra cra. Iggo Oct 2013 #144
Sorry, I thought by House Stenographer vi5 Oct 2013 #133
There are still stenographers? HockeyMom Oct 2013 #136

spanone

(136,012 posts)
1. insane in the brain
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:25 PM
Oct 2013

For the past 2 and 1/2 weeks, the Holy Spirit has been waking me up in the middle of the night and preparing me (through my reluctance and doubt) to deliver a message in the House Chamber,” stenographer Dianne Foster Reidy told Fox News’s Chad Pergram in a written statement. “That is what I did last night.”

i.e. mental illness

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,237 posts)
3. I was watching live on C-Span (no commentary)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:28 PM
Oct 2013

And I actually had to rewind on the live DVR a couple of times when I saw that. Wondered what that was about.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
4. Sigh
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:28 PM
Oct 2013

I spent a lot of time this morning defending this lady for having potential, treatable, mental illness and now she shows she's just a RW fanatic and likes it that way. Oh well.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
7. You are still correct and right to do so
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

This lady does have a potential, treatable, mental illness only she doesn't know it she thinks it was God.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Its still quite possible shes mentally ill.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

Voices in her head are a good indication. Sounds like schitzophrenia.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
135. I doubt they mean it literally, and besides that, we hold internal conversations all the time...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

internal dialog helps organize thoughts, and even having voices that sound like someone else isn't a sign of being unhealthy, until it becomes pathological. For example, wondering what your mother would say or think about a situation.

For most healthy people, this dialog is recognized as internal, though some may mistakenly believe some of it is external, but in mild forms, such as think Jesus or God is talking to you late at night, or in dreams. Its only when this type of stuff interferes with being able to function in society does it become pathological and you need help. It also can be a sign of some type of chemical imbalance or disorder of the brain.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
9. As a long time atheist
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

I have considered adherence to theism to be a treatable condition ....

Take some reason, question what others have told you, and call me in the morning ...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. huh? this a textbook indication of spiralling mania
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

that ends up resulting in full blown psychosis.

could it be something else? Yes. Could she be a right wing fanatic? Her history points to that, but even right wing fanatics with any connection to reality don't flip out on national tv in the midst of Congressional proceedings.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. uh, you don't actually think you have any evidence that she didn't
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:37 PM
Oct 2013

suffer a manic break or some other form of psychosis, do you?

You're smarter than that.

She's on a psych hold.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
140. "You're smarter than that."
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:07 PM
Oct 2013

Just another way of saying, "I'm smarter than you".

She should be fired and banned. She is far too crazy to have that kind of access.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. It is true, she's no worse than Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

But Michelle Bachmann was at least elected to a seat in the House and speaks up as that status accords her - the reason this lady is probably mentally ill is nothing to do with her religion and beliefs but everything to do with her thinking the Holy Spirit wanted her to do this particular thing in this particular place.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
86. The only difference is that Bachmann is a member
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:32 PM
Oct 2013

Bachmann could have given exactly the same speech and nobody would have said a thing as long as the gentle lady was recognized for her time.

dawg

(10,626 posts)
42. She's probably proud of this, Cali.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

She "stood up" for God.

And what she did was perfectly rational if you believe the things that conservatives claim to believe.

We have a really big problem in this country. I live in a somewhat rural area where conservative opinions are dominant, and they are dangerously deluded.

As we say where I come from, "They ain't right in the head."

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
52. if, as I believe, she suffered a manic break
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:58 PM
Oct 2013

she'll be utterly crushed and humiliated by what she did.

Both dems and repubs in the house who knew her, had nothing but kind words for her and described her as a quiet, good worker and colleague.

No, she wasn't perfectly rational. Rational people are able to understand the ramifications of their behavior. this wasn't like someone who went there to protest and make a statement. she was a long time employee. A rational person would understand that doing what she did would result in precisely what it resulted in- being dragged off and hospitalized.

Her speech was rambling and disjointed.

dawg

(10,626 posts)
62. I don't think she suffered a psychotic break.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013

Granted, she had some sort of a breakdown. I do feel sorry for her, and I hope she gets better.

But I'll bet that when she does get better, she'll still believe the vote last night was a victory for Satan. She may even still believe that the Holy Spirit urged her to speak out.

A significant portion of the people who support the conservative movement are just as detached from reality as she. It is their ordinary state of being, and the Democratic Party needs to recognize that undeniable fact. We cannot make common cause with crazy and we should stop trying.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
96. When I first saw the video, my first impression was a psychotic break
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oct 2013

Granted, she's normally this conservative Christian type but her behavior was completely inappropriate with the manic speech.

She HAD to know that she would suffer serious consequences for what she did, "had to know" meaning when she was in contact with reality. If she had mounted a protest after work on the Capitol steps, fine, that's a pretty normal thing to do. She would have not jeopardized her $157,000 a year job.

Now, at the bare minimum, she will be on a probationary status which will include mandatory treatment by a psychiatrist. If she doesn't agree to that, she will be out of a job. There is no way in hell she was in her right mind when she did that. Her behavior was completely different than what it normally is. Everyone was shocked by it. I have to give ol Louis Gohmert props, he was very worried about her (no brains but a big heart per Faux News, yea I went over there).

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
108. That was not "manic speech"...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:49 PM
Oct 2013

...it was in fact quite coherent. She wanted to let us all know that it was Freemasons (gasp!) who wrote the Constitution and therefore we are not, and never were, "one nation under god". Well, that is mostly true -- it was not only Freemasons, but also Deists and some Christians who wrote our Constitution. We were founded under Enlightenment principles, not religious principles.

No, she was loud and a bit excited, but neither manic nor incoherent.

Fire her ass.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
99. Appearing with Fox 'news' makes me think she was giving her message with some forethought.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

I didn't see the interview, but the Fox 'news' interview is suspicious. Hard to figure now.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
107. But she is NOT "utterly crushed and humiliated" by what she did...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:47 PM
Oct 2013

...she is instead promoting her reasons for acting in this way, through FAUX NEWS. You are often right but I don't think you are right in this case. I think she is a fundie wacko (and no I don't use this term for all religious folk, not even all fundamentalists) and she knew exactly what she was doing.

Fine, lady. You had your say. Good job. Now pack up your things, you're fired.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
77. Dan Reidy, husband of Hse stenographer Dianne says...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

his wife is a "level-headed wonderful woman of God. I am proud of her."

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

louslobbs

(3,241 posts)
143. I'm sure her god could take care of him or herself.....at least from what I know about god, (in my
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:19 PM
Oct 2013

case I was taught that god was a he), he could simply strike down those he disapproves of with a bolt of lightening, or a heart attack, or blindness, or a stroke, or any combination of those or many other maladies to punish the sinner. Never, not once, did god ever ask for my assistance or help because he just couldn't handle his job as god.

Also, no matter how many times I prayed to god, or begged him for help, not only did I never hear back from him, but he never granted any of my requests, ever.

And finally, not once, did he ever wake me up in the middle of the night to initiate a conversation with me telling me that there was something I needed to do for him, or at anytime, did he ask for my opinion or demand that I help him in doing something that he couldn't handle on his own. It's all just so bizarre, every time I hear one of these fundies claim they talk to god and that they believe that he talks back to them, it sends a shiver of terror down my spine.

Lou

dawg

(10,626 posts)
146. "not once, did he ever wake me up in the middle of the night to ..."
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:25 PM
Oct 2013

Well then you're damned lucky. I've been workin' my fingers to the bone on this fuckin' ark for months now.

louslobbs

(3,241 posts)
148. lol, OMG...when's the next 40 days 40 nights rain thingy due? And good luck in advance collecting
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:55 PM
Oct 2013

2 of every one of gods creations....and may I suggest purchasing some large snow shovels in order to easily remove waste and transfer it to your on board compost heap for easy turning of the pile to produce a nice healthy soil for your gardening needs. Also, avoid taking along any teabaggers, as they are prone to shutting things down and stopping progress.
Lou

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
63. Are you sure about that?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013

"...even right wing fanatics with any connection to reality don't flip out on national tv in the midst of Congressional proceedings."

What exactly is it that the Tea Party Republicans have been doing these last couple weeks?

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
105. And her defense of her remarks...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:44 PM
Oct 2013

...when talking to FAUX NEWS -- is that indicative of psychosis? I don't think so.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
5. Just what society needs ...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:29 PM
Oct 2013

Another holy messiah acting out their hallucinatory fantasies ...

Awesome!

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
43. Yes, exploitation at it's finest
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

If she is on a psych hold then Fox News has jumped the shark with this one and THEY should become the subject of a story.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. Exploiting her?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:58 PM
Oct 2013

She was acting in accordance with her convictions, the same as any other disruptive protester.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
59. This was mental illness, not "conviction".
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:03 PM
Oct 2013

If Fox is trying to sensationalize her actions as some sort of tea party "victory", that's pathetic.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
66. Because we don't share her beliefs?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

Okay, so, a Code Pink protester shows up at a congressional hearing, puts red paint on her hands, and yells at Condi Rice.

That is rational behavior, but the stenographer's is not.

Explain the difference without telling me that belief in god is a mental illness.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
74. Because a non-existent entity repeatedly woke her from sleep and commanded her?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:18 PM
Oct 2013


She is entitled to her own beliefs, not her own reality. There is a difference in religious belief and religious delusion. Believing in the Holy Ghost, rational. Believing that the Holy Ghost is physically present in your bedroom and commanding you to act against your will and best interests, not rational.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
79. Saying "religious people aren't crazy unless they actually believe their religion"....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:24 PM
Oct 2013

Doesn't sound quite right.

It's like "Christians" who are afraid to die.

The distinction you are trying to draw is what many Christians will tell you is the difference between "mere belief" and "faith".

If you are going to call being touched by the Holy Ghost some form of mental illness, I hope you got a big bus:

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
83. I'm going to call it "delusional". And yes, I realize I am implicating most fundies....
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

...and am going to need a very large bus (maybe even one big enough to accommodate fervent Fox News viewers).

As for the stenographer individually, it is the description of being woken from sleep by these experiences that makes me suspect mania. As an MD, I have experienced and treated people with mania before. Intense experiences, disruption of sleep-wake cycles, hallucinations, compulsions to "do" something, all textbook symptoms.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
106. The difference is that Code Pink protesters are there to protest
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:46 PM
Oct 2013

This woman was there as an employee. She both took advantage of her position and violated its norms of behavior. She had to have known she was jeopardizing her continued employment.

If she'd stood at the back of a congressional hearing and shouted something about Freemasons and the Constitution, she'd have been seen as simply exercising free speech rights as a citizen. But she was doing something very different.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
138. Acting on one's convictions is not a mental illness
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:45 PM
Oct 2013

This woman clearly had the strength of her convictions and acted on them.

Your point was that her employment made things "different" from other protestors.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
139. It's not her employment in a narrow sense -- it's her general situation
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:00 PM
Oct 2013

Snowden planned his actions carefully in advance. He had a specific objective and he set out to achieve it in the most efficient way possible. It's clear that he knew he was burning his bridges behind him and was willing to accept that fact.

Code Pink also plans their actions carefully in advance, know what effect they want to have, and have thought out what consequences they are willing to accept.

The stenographer did none of those things. She may have had the impulse building up for a couple of weeks, but he actions display no planning, no specific objective, and no thought of the consequences. She rushed up to the podium, blurted out something unintelligible, and was hustled away.

In other words, it was a completely meaningless and self-destructive gesture -- and though you don't have to be mentally ill to act in that manner, it certainly helps.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
145. Have we all not heard what she had to say?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:23 PM
Oct 2013

She said that the Constitution was written by Freemasons who are apparently enemies of God, that God will not be mocked, and that this is not a godly country.

She got her message across more clearly than a lot of folks manage to do. I never heard what the Code Pinkers were saying during, for example, McCain's nomination speech. I would guess it was some anti-war sentiment, since that is usually the message they are about in general.

So the difference between "principled protester" and "mentally ill person" is whether or not someone spent two weeks planning it? Heck, by that standard the "Fuck you, Dick Cheney" guy - who jumped on an opportunity - musta been downright crackers!

 
12. Nutjob fundie confirmed. Can we drop the "have some compassion" bullshit now?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

Do I have permission to point and laugh yet?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. no. you can be a right wing fundie and have a manic break.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:35 PM
Oct 2013

She's in hospital undergoing a psych evaluation. Odds are great that she's on a psych hold and depending where she is, the odds are good that that hold will either be extended or that she'll agree to voluntary inpatient treatment.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
47. I might be missing something...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not being cheeky or anything but if she's on a psych hold how did she get on Fox? I realize that Fox *is* an asylum, but I thought I read she was given a psych eval directly after the incident last night.

Was she released already?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
54. she wasn't on fox last night. and no, she hasn't been released
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

reports are that she was taken to the hospital for a psych eval. In DC that means a 48 hour hold.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
64. Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:06 PM
Oct 2013

She certainly sounds ill, I feel badly for anyone suffering with mental illness. When I was a teenager, my best friend was acting bizarrely, getting increasingly worse over time, but suddenly was convinced that she was not only Cupid (her birthday was 2/14) but also the daughter of Jesus Christ. It was incredibly sad.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,446 posts)
119. We now know she was released some time ago
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:12 PM
Oct 2013
October 17, 2013 | 5:28pm

Dan Reidy told The Post Thursday that his wife, Dianne, was plagued by sleeplessness since the start of the shutdown Oct. 1.
...
Dianne Reidy was present sporadically during the half-hour interview, but spoke only briefly towards the end.

“I’ve never felt better,” she said, “I’m glad that I fulfilled God’s mission for me, absolutely. It lifted a tremendous burden. It was a very hard burden to carry as you can imagine.”
...
After her bizarre behavior , she was taken to George Washington Hospital and spoke to a psychiatrist, then released.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/


So she certainly wasn't kept in for 48 hours; she may not even have been kept in overnight.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. She did this deliberately, and out of her professed convictions
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

Would you suggest that Code Pink disruptors also be held for such reasons?

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
90. She heard voices in her head
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

That's the difference, like it or not. If someone from Code Pink had pulled one of their stunts and then claimed that the ghost of Genghis Khan had appeared to them, commanding them to do so, I'd support a psych hold of them too.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
97. Yeah, so, how do you expect people to hear God?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:18 PM
Oct 2013

You only think it's crazy because God hasn't said anything to you yet.

Response to cali (Reply #17)

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
151. Admit it, she is just a right wing nut, not mentally insane. Admit you are wrong on this. nt
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:02 PM
Oct 2013
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
153. I don't think that's going to happen
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

It appears that cali dropped out of the conversation when actual facts started rolling in.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
109. Yes you have my permission to point and laugh...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:52 PM
Oct 2013

...regardless of all the armchair diagnoses here, she knew what she was doing IMO and her statement today reinforces that.

Well at least she has the courage of her convictions. She'll need it, now that she'll be losing that nice paying job. Hopefully.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
149. Many people thought Andrea Yates was a "nutjob fundie" before...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:57 PM
Oct 2013

...and her husband was her biggest fan, as long as she kept being a good Christian woman by having his children.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
65. I'm afraid your psycholgical diagnosis is lacking my friend
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

Some key facts about her outburst.
It was coherent in the parameters of her religiosity and convictions.

Of course her fatigue could have triggered the outburst but not the content of her message.


Her religious fanaticism I've seen in churches and families which we could describe as sickness, but quite normal to them. i would diagnose her with fatigue but not any mental illness which is one for the books.

TeamPooka

(24,347 posts)
23. So it was a premeditated act. Thank you for the confession. Now prosecute her.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:37 PM
Oct 2013

If that sounds harsh to you, if any other citizen did that would they be prosecuted or fined?
What would happen to them?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. you don't know anything whatsoever about bi-polar illness do you?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

or any mental illness at all.

Guess what? People who are severely psychotic are capable of what you're terming premeditation.

this isn't rocket science.

I'm shocked by how dang blasted ignorant so many here are when it comes to MI.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
41. Well said. There are definitely some mental issues going on to elicit this
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:50 PM
Oct 2013

impulsive behavior such as this IMO.

tavernier

(12,446 posts)
122. As a nurse, I know all about MI
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:48 PM
Oct 2013

It's a myocardial infarction, otherwise known as a heart attack.

What this lady has is BSC, otherwise known as bat shit crazy.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
35. so if it's established that she was suffering a manic break
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

or some other form of psychosis, you think she should be fired?

Nice.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
67. As stenographer, it is vital that she record proceedings accurately
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

Until the Holy Spirit ceases to motive this woman to action, she is not qualified to execute her job.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
82. You think a delusional mentally ill person should be allowed to work anywhere near our elected
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:29 PM
Oct 2013

officials??

She's not the only one who needs her head examined.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
73. If she is ill, of course.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:17 PM
Oct 2013

If her outburst is the result of the inability to refrain from introducing religious rhetoric into governmental proceedings, she should find other work.

Gore1FL

(21,212 posts)
78. Point
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

I'd agree she should probably find another position at this point, too--even if she remains with the government. She might want to run as a Tea Party candidate.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
31. I would be pretty pissed at the Holy Spirit, myself. There's nothing that important
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:43 PM
Oct 2013

that it can't wait until morning.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
36. More Likely Headed to the Christian Gravy Train
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

every Evangelical TV show in America will have her as a guest

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
37. A psychiatrist can help with impulsive delusional behavior, god words will not
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

get one a free pass to disrupt in session congressional activities.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
50. Thankfully she has Obamacare now!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:57 PM
Oct 2013

many seriously mentally ill folks have religious based delusions about themselves!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
58. We've seen that so many times, identification with god/religion delusionally giving one
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oct 2013

a sense of empowerment of being special in the scheme of life ... and sometimes to persecute others.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
71. and they gravitate towards the Republicans because..
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:17 PM
Oct 2013

they desperately need to see others suffering more than they are in order to feel good about themselves...it is really sick.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
40. The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:49 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor++14:32

This wasn't the Old-Time Gospel Hour, ma'am. It was the US House of Representatives. Control yourself.

nolabear

(42,019 posts)
56. Poor woman. I think the case for mania resulting in a psychotic break is strong.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Oct 2013

I know and have treated some of the finest people I've ever met who can become passengers on that wild horse. I'd advise against being in any way smug about something you can't even vaguely comprehend.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
114. OFFS...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:00 PM
Oct 2013

...many of us here can comprehend mental illness, and not vaguely either -- you are not the only person here who has dealt with it in real life.

Look, there are obviously some different perceptions of this incident. But please try and refrain from condescension on the topic.

nolabear

(42,019 posts)
121. Well I guess I wasn't talking to you and those people then, was I?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:39 PM
Oct 2013

I've got no premium on comprehension, but I do see a whole lot of abuse being heaped on that woman here, and I object to it. If you're not one of the people doing it, then don't take it on.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
123. Do you know pintobean personally?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:56 PM
Oct 2013

Because your reply stated that pintobean should not be "smug about something you can't even vaguely comprehend". IOW you were stating this poster can't even vaguely comprehend mental illness, even though you can't even vaguely KNOW that, unless you know the poster personally.

And please, don't condescend. Such as: "If you're not one of the people doing it, then don't take it on." Sorry you don't want to be challenged, but this is an open discussion board and I am free to remark on anyone's comments, whether they were directed at me or not. In this case, you are but one of many posters here whose response to those of us who do not buy the "psychotic break" theory is, essentially, "Well you obviously know nothing about mental illness, and how dare you abuse this poor woman."

This woman brought the reactions on herself. She chose to make her statement, and she chose to email FAUX NEWS today to reiterate what she said. So yes, I remain in the camp that believes she did not have a mental breakdown. IMO she just could not contain herself any longer, she had to let us infidels know the TRUTH.

I sincerely hope she loses her job over it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
124. I didn't take that as being directed at me
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:03 PM
Oct 2013

since I didn't give an opinion in the OP. When someone wants to address everyone, or just state their view, they usually reply to the OP.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
127. Upon re-reading the OP, I agree with you...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:12 PM
Oct 2013

...it does not appear to be directed at you since you made no comment one way or the other in your OP.

nolabear

(42,019 posts)
125. Fine. Mentally ill people don't email news channels. But you're right. I don't know her.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

If you want to paint me as the one who's condescending, so be it. I wasn't addressing you, I didn't start a conversation with you, and you're the one who, yes, took it on.

But you do have a point in that this whole thing is academic at best. We don't know one another, I don't know pintobean (with whom I have no beef and often have fine interactions), neither of us knows her, and if you are offended by my defense of a person whose behavior suggests impairment then so be it. I'm comfortable with my comment.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
132. Once again:
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:21 PM
Oct 2013

Whether you were addressing me or not is 100% immaterial. This is a discussion board. There is no rule that says I may not speak unless spoken to. Sorry if the format bothers you, but there it is.

Anyway, since your remarks appear to be more general than I thought -- i.e., since pintobean did not make any remarks one way or the other, just cited a couple of articles about it -- that means you were not addressing pintobean directly but painting with a broader brush, implying that all of us who disagree with you in this instance don't have even a vague idea of what mental illness is about.

BTW I am NOT offended by your defense of the woman. It's very apparent that many of us see it one way, and many see it the other way. I am fine with that. But I AM offended by your statement about smugness, and not being able to even vaguely understand mental illness. With that statement you set yourself apart as someone who DOES know about such things, and the rest of us who disagree with your assessment as people who obviously DO NOT know about them. You can't know that and your assumption is, yes, condescending.

TTFN

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
72. hahahaha... exactly, imagine typing all that crap those teanuts blather on about?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:17 PM
Oct 2013

her over emotional ranting (accurate or not) and choice of doing so seem no different than Bachmann's speeches. lol...

Ligyron

(7,660 posts)
76. Listen
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

I don't go in for any religious crap myself (except when I need a good laugh), but maybe we should see what the psych eval produces first before firing or prosecuting her. Meanwhile, I DID get a good laugh ... bwahhhaa

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
80. And when the "holy spirit compels her to bring a gun into the House and shoot
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:24 PM
Oct 2013

some Democrats, she'll obey again.

She is a huge security risk and must never be allowed on government property again, let alone into a legislative body.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
85. Dan Reidy, husband of House stenographer Dianne says his wife is a "level-headed wonderful woman
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

of God," per Chad Pergram on Twitter.

She's just your average christofascist. We're lucky she didn't bring a gun to work.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
95. No. These people want liberals dead. She might just as easily have decided
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:07 PM
Oct 2013

that Gawd wanted her to shoot somebody.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
112. Is "level headed woman of God" an oxymoron?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:57 PM
Oct 2013

She may very well be a woman of God (whatever the hell that means), but after watching her little performance I don't think anybody could call her level headed.

Then again, maybe he's describing her literally.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
118. does the majority party hire such people?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

Someone else posed this question.

I was hoping someone would provide an answer.

(The thinking being the House fundies would hire one of their own.)



 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
131. Hell yeah. I'm thinking it's probably a job qualification. They're probably all just like her.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oct 2013

The entire House Republican staff roster is probably full of them.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
134. Been there 8 years
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013
His wife has worked at the Capitol for more than eight years, and has been a stenographer for almost two decades, also working in D.C. courts.


http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/

frogmarch

(12,163 posts)
93. She sounds like my fundie sister-in-law.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

She’d do the very same thing the House stenographer did if she had the chance. The holy spirit talks to my sister-in-law too, and one of the things it tells her is to keep working on mr. froggy and me until we cast the demons of atheism from our souls and accept jayzus as our savior. She disrupts not only family gatherings with her religious rants, but public ones too, and singlehandedly brought down our local book club.

My sister-in-law is just a "normal," everyday fundie. I don’t consider her any wackier than the rest of them are.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
94. I'm not going to feel sorry for her
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Oct 2013

1. As a certified(tm) religious wackjob (old testament variety), she has permanent job security.
2. Watch for her upcoming book and booktour on Fox, Rush, Hannity et al.
3. She will be praised for her misbehavior, and probably given a raise.

Now, imagine the reaction to her if she had run around yelling "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"....

 

SamYeager

(309 posts)
104. Religions have been exploiting the mentally ill for millenia
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:26 PM
Oct 2013

She was "possessed of the Holy Spirit".

Others are "Demon possessed".

How the religion paints it all depends upon how the psychosis manifests.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
113. soo... she is a christian fundamentalist whack job
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

And not mentally ill.

She's a woman of God, according to her husband... and he is proud of her.

Compassion from this morning is wasted.

Fire her at least, and prosecute her at most.

tanyev

(42,725 posts)
117. That's funny, fundie extraordinaire David Barton insists that the Constitution is Biblical.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:42 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe he's got a different Holy Spirit talking to him.

David Barton says Americans have been misled about their history. And he aims to change that.

Barton has collected 100,000 documents from before 1812 — original or certified copies of letters, sermons, newspaper articles and official documents of the Founding Fathers. He says they prove that the Founding Fathers were deeply religious men who built America on Christian ideas — something you never learn in school.

For example, you’ve been taught the Constitution is a secular document. Not so, says Barton: The Constitution is laced with biblical quotations.

“You look at Article 3, Section 1, the treason clause,” he told James Robison on Trinity Broadcast Network. “Direct quote out of the Bible. You look at Article 2, the quote on the president has to be a native born? That is Deuteronomy 17:15, verbatim. I mean, it drives the secularists nuts because the Bible’s all over it! Now we as Christians don’t tend to recognize that. We think it’s a secular document; we’ve bought into their lies. It’s not.”


http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/david-barton-christianizing-history/

Pakhet

(520 posts)
142. So the constitution is biblical
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:18 PM
Oct 2013

But feeding the poor isn't. Got it. I don't know how these people live with themselves.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
133. Sorry, I thought by House Stenographer
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:25 PM
Oct 2013

I figured you meant David Gregory, or Chuck Todd, or someone of their ilk.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
136. There are still stenographers?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:40 PM
Oct 2013

I though that went the way of manual typewriters. Damn, I could be working for government still?????

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