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Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:21 PM Oct 2013

Rand Paul... NOT a Board Certified (but self certified) Doctor!

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Dr. Paul: Not board-certified, but self-certified

Asked by a Louisville reporter when he would explain his dubious certification, Rand Paul said: "Uh ... never"

Libertarian ideology rejects most of the modern regulatory systems that protect consumers, because everyone should be responsible for determining whether the hamburger contains E. coli on his own. But does that do-it-yourself dogma apply to the regulation of medicine, too? If you’re Dr. Rand Paul, practicing ophthalmologist, the answer is emphatically yes.

According to an amusing story in today’s Louisville Courier-Journal, the Kentucky Republican Senate candidate bills himself as a “board-certified” physician even though he is not actually certified by the American Board of Ophthalmology — the only recognized body that certifies doctors in his specialty.

Paul’s only certification was provided instead by something called the National Board of Ophthalmology, which is very convenient because he operates that organization himself. As the Courier-Journal explains drily, the American Board of Ophthalmology, which maintains a fully staffed headquarters in Philadelphia, has existed for roughly a century and currently lists about 16,000 doctors on its rolls. (Most hospitals and insurance companies strongly prefer doctors who are board-certified because certification indicates that they have kept up with changes in technology, best practices and so on.) The National Board of Ophthalmology has existed since 1999, when Paul “founded” it, lists no more than seven doctors, and its address is a post-office box in Bowling Green, Ky. He had claimed to be certified by both boards, but Courier-Journal reporter Joseph Gerth quickly discovered that claim was false.

MORE: http://www.salon.com/2010/06/14/rand_2/

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IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
4. Medicare pays differently for Board Certified and non-Board Certified physicians
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:26 PM
Oct 2013

If he claims Board Certification to Medicare, he is committing Medicare fraud

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
3. You might want to edit your caption.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:24 PM
Oct 2013

There is a difference between not being a doctor (MD or DO, generally with a license to practice medicine) and not being board certified (certification of skills in a narrow area by a specialty board). Nothing in the article suggests he is not a licensed doctor.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. They give out doctorates for fly fishing....
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 01:36 PM
Nov 2013

All those TV preachers are "doctors" too.

It just ain't what it used to be.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
15. He is an MD, and licensed to practice medicine.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:02 PM
Nov 2013

He just isn't board certified in a specialty by what most consider a recognized board.

Board certification is an additional step beyond holding an MD and beyond being licensed to practice medicine, and even beyond practicing a specialty.

The original title ("Rand Paul... NOT a Doctor!&quot stated he was not a doctor, and that is false.

(Not really related to what you consider junk degrees.)

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
17. .
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

"

Michael J. Schoenfeld, vice president for public affairs for Duke University in Durham, N.C., said his school's records show Paul received his medical degree from Duke in 1988 and completed his residency there in 1993.


Rankings by U.S. News & World Report again place Duke University School of Medicine among the top 10 medical schools in the nation.


Trash him all you want for being a negative net value add to the world - but at least be honest about it. It is self-defeating to assert something which is blatantly false (he's not an MD, or his MD is a "Cracker Jack" degree), especially false information which is easily disproven.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. The POINT is that he feels the rules don't apply to him....
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 02:47 PM
Nov 2013

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And he HAD to have washed out of the normal certification to go through the trouble (and expense) of creating his own.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
6. Not board certified, still a physician.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:27 PM
Oct 2013

He should not be practicing ophthalmology, but he is still an MD and has earned the title of "doctor". Possibly even still licensed, which is regulated by state medical boards.

I'd rather leave the honor of bestowing that title to our nation's medical schools, rather than turning it over to organizations with corporate interests.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
8. Wasn't he once certified by the ABO?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:35 PM
Oct 2013

I thought he was originally certified, but he allowed the certification to lapse for some reason. I don't recall hearing anything to the effect of him being decertified for malpractice or other poor behavior.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. He most certainly IS a doctor. Whether or not he is certified by a LEGITIMATE
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013

specialty board is the question.

He DID graduate from medical school. He IS or WAS licensed to practice medicine.

Stop with this foolishness.

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