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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWOW! Anonymous just released a STATEMENT about Marysville:
Greetings, World.
We are #OpMaryville.
Two young girls have been raped in the town of Maryville, Missouri. Another high school football star, the grandson of a Missouri state official, has walked free. The people of Maryville turned their backs on these victims and one family has been forced to flee the town. After they left, their house was burned to the ground.
On January 8th, a 14-year-old girl named Daisy and her 13-year-old friend were both raped in Maryville. Evidence of this assault was captured on film. Daisys unconscious body was later dumped into her familys yard, left alone for hours in freezing weather. One of Daisys attackers was initially in police custody, where he admitted to having sex with her while she was under the influence.
He claimed it was consensual. The hospital states the young girls blood alcohol level was almost twice the legal limit and they discovered three tears inside of her body, 2-4 inches in length.
This suspect rapist is Matthew Barnett, a student at the University of Central Missouri. Hes the grandson of Missouri state Representative, Rex Barnett.
We demand an immediate investigation into the handling by local authorities of Daisys case. Why were the suspects initially arrested and then released? How was video and medical evidence not enough to put one of these football players inside a court room? What is the connection of these prosecutors, if any, to Rep. Rex Barnett? Most of all, We are wondering, how do the residents of Maryville sleep at night?
We have heard Daisys story far too often. We heard it from Steubenville, Halifax and Uttar Pradesh. In some cases, action meant nothing because it couldnt bring them back. Both Amanda Todd and Rehtaeh Parsons, girls not much older than Daisy, took their own lives after the adults, the police and the school system, failed to protect them. If Maryville wont defend these young girls, if the police are to cowardly or corrupt to do their jobs, if justice system has abandoned them, then someone else will have to stand for them. Mayor Jim Fall, your hands are dirty. Maryville, expect us.
We Are Anonymous.
We Are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Join us.
#OpMaryville #Justice4Daisy
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/10/14/anonymous-demands-justice-2-girls-raped-left-die-charges-dropped-rapist-related-gop-figure-justice4daisy/
You can run, bit you can't hide.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)new. What the intentions of the script kiddies at Anonymous is uncertain. We shall see, perhaps. But others are calling this person out on the Internet, as well.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Grandson of local political figure, not hard to figure out.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)and the perp's family is one of the powerful ones.
grahampuba
(169 posts)seems like they welcome garbage there.
tblue37
(65,393 posts)same college as the rapist that even before the Anonymous warning, others who had read the newspaper story had begun to take action, including sororities. Apparently there were even posters with his picture, with the label "rapist," put up around campus.
He has no doubt been smugly patting himself on the back, thinking he got away with it, and apparently he's been posting on Facebook or Twitter (I forget which) that ALL girls want him.
It looks as though he is in for an uncomfortable reality check.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)criminal behavior, will get a lot more attention than anyone else. Who are the others who are exposing the crime? This is the first I heard about it.
Thanks again Anonymous.
Btw, what makes you think they are 'kiddies'? I know that is what they WANT some people to think and a few of them are, but it's odd that you would refer to them that way, considering that Democrats in general understand, and have for years, (enough time btw, for the 'kiddies' to have grown up), what they are about.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)That's how it came out. The paper did a 7 month investigation of the rapes and subsequent events.
They're also now reporting on the Internet reaction:
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/14/4553693/anger-over-maryville-case-boils.html#storylink=omni_popular
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)running with it.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Well, it's been covered in depth locally in the news, which is easy enough to find. A little searching also turns up a lot of people talking about this. The perpetrators' names have been published in many places.
As for Anonymous, my opinion of that disorganization is well-known. I don't like Anonymous. I don't like their tactics and their lack of attention to what is and is not important. However, you appear to believe that you understand what "Democrats" want and think. I believe you are incorrect, and have said so in the past as well.
"Script Kiddies" does not refer to the actual ages of the hacker kids at Anonymous. It's more a reference to their capabilities, which appear to be only a little more developed than the usual run of Internet gamers. That is my opinion. Yours might be different. That's fine.
See you in some other thread...
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Especially in undermining the corrupt tactics used by our so-called 'security contractors' and their 'customers'.
I always support the exposure of the bad guys, the ones who work against Democrats.
They are very effective, but wouldn't be needed at all if we had a functioning system that deals with wrong-doing among the powerful. Until that happens, there will always be groups, like Anonymous, who step into the breach, thankfully. Which is why they are so popular. I doubt your opinion, or mine, is going to prevent or cause that. It's just a symptom of the corruption that is so prevalent, without consequences, among the powerful.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)i hope anonymous kicks the shit out of those so called officials.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Let's find other links, please.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Google "Mathew Barnett, MO rapist".
Here's a token: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/family-driven-maryville-missouri-home-after-teen-sex-scandal/70489/
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)You don't like it because it is British?
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)The Mail is not a Murdoch paper. It is, however, a far-right paper which supported Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930s and was the only British newspaper allowed to be sold in Mussolini's Italy. And no, it's politics haven't changed much in the intervening years, it is just a little less blatant about it's Fascism these days - more Tea Party than Stormfront,
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)Son of the 3rd Viscount Rothermere, pictured below with a friend (Rothermere's the one on the left).
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)marble falls
(57,099 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)I'm so freaking pissed by our pathetic media. Did you know that Sandra Bullock did a rap song on the British Jonathan Ross tv Show? HuffingtonPost broke that story.
calimary
(81,304 posts)Why am I not surprised.
I tell you, these people are Fucking EVIL!!!!!!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)It figures, but still pretty damn f-ed up.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I am glad it was exposed.
Skittles
(153,164 posts)it can make the world of difference in their lives going forward
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)off on. shame on each and every one of the very little pricks.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)hue
(4,949 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Reap what you sown, scumbag.
Oh, and if anyone here uses words for him that actually are derived from etymologically misogynistic words which further devalue women, like d-bag and beeyotch, I will personally bite your face off.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)grrrr!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Just because these words have become normalized doesn't mean they're ok. It only means that men and women both are deadened to the insult done to women.
These same people would never use the N word or the F word--and would alert on anyone who did.
If the witty snarky heroes and heroines of teevee say it and get laffs (bullshit tasteless pre-recorded laffs, but who's counting?) then of course it's ok and no harm done. "Cuz all the kool kids do it and it makes me feel tuff and witty. And anyway, it's too hard to think of insults that aren't based in female-disgust."
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)Her solution seems fitting for this crime.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)those with ties to power generally don't get punished- they must be publically shamed.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Hey, you know why the teen's family moved?
Because of public shaming and intimidation. Shaming is a form of intimidation.
Know why the Halifax teen committed suicide? Public shaming.
The principle of "innocent until proven guilty" is there for a purpose. Better that a dozen guilty people go free than one innocent person be convicted or shamed into suicide or hounded out of town.
Once convicted, then it is a matter of public record and that can be publicized.
Until then, the prosecutors need to be pressured to bring a serious and winnable case.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but what if the prosecutor can't be budged?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)If the prosecutors won't budge then file Federal charges, including possibly charging the Prosecutor for Dereliction of Duty: taking salary while not delivering adequate performance (would have to be better constructed than that to work).
Then investigate the whole mess and uncover the influence peddling and the Obstruction of Justice, probably a conspiracy driven by the grandfather state representative who may be corrupt.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)your grandfather gets the prosecutor to drop all charges? Public outcry about the injustice done to the VICTIM and his FUTURE victims is all there is.
He even left her to die, passed out on her front porch in 22° weather in T-shirt and sweatpants. No shoes. Rape? How about attempted murder? As far as I'm concerned he should be branded with that as well.
Not only that but that evil little town should be branded as the sickest, slimiest place in the whole USA. Those motherfuckers ALL proved themselves guilty by their own actions. Every scummy one of them.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to the sherriff
Squinch
(50,954 posts)That poor baby.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I doubt that is the first time he did this, and won't be the last, but GOP grandpa is going to make sure he gets off. Or probably send him to the Cayman Islands or some other foreign place to live in luxury.
Wait for it.
I can't imagine what she must be going through and will need surgery. She probably all kinds of damage.
He made sure she was helpless, what is it with these guys? They want sex with nearly dead people?
Sick psychopath, no way to fix him.
radicalliberal
(907 posts)After all, we're talking about a football career! We must keep our priorities straight!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)When was the trial? And you've seen and analyzed all the evidence?
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)And you can personally identify the individual in the photograph?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)This young man may very well be guilty. But thats why we have a criminal justice system.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Laughable. None of us here at Democratic Underground are saddling up and heading over to Marysville to organize a good old-fashioned necktie party.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)I understand the outrage at what happened in Maryville. But there have been multiple instances in the internet age when the wrong person was identified as guilty of a crime, and spent a considerable amount of their lives trying to live that down. Yet, the wise denizens of DU, none of whom I would guess have ever met the alleged perp or victim, are willing to post the young man's picture without benefit of a trial or evidence that they have reviewed, and proclaim him guilty. If he is in fact NOT guilty, that will forever alter his ability to get a job or otherwise defend his reputation. That is the 21st century version of vigilante justice..
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Move to another fucking town? Fire his PARENTS from their jobs? That happened to the GIRL. The VICTIM.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)That's why we have trials and the official presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
The lynch mob here has already convicted him of everything under the sun. What he has admitted to is bad enough. Force the prosecutors and the police to take him to a proper trial, or charge them with obstructing justice and conspiracy and influence peddling. Charge the grandfather representative with the same.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and the PROPER people figure this shit out.
they walked away from it. that is the crime. we are saying walk the fuck back to it and do your damn job
it is not ours to do.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)seabeyond wrote:
Agreed. That's what police detectives are for. However "obvious" it might seem.
Aside from the issue of justice and the rule of law, there are two other issues enraged would-be vigilantes don't think about:
1) There are likely other crimes that would get obliterated by vigilantism and never be exposed. For example, the State Rep may (repeat may even if it seems "obvious" have used his influence to obstruct justice. In the rush to make life a living hell for the teenager, that evidence can get trampled and obscured and then the State Rep would get away with it.
2) Detectives are trained. Enraged mobs are not.
Agreed. It needs to be publicized and pressure brought to bear on the state and to get the Feds involved to get to the bottom of the crimes and the coverup and the obstruction of justice.
Agreed. The proper people would be senior state law enforcement officers and senior state prosecutors and Federal law enforcement officers and Federal prosecutors and District Attorneys.
Agreed. The failure to prosecute, the coverup, the conspiracies, and the vigilante hounding of the family and the arson are serious crimes. Not as much a crime as the rapes and the attempted manslaughter, but extremely serious too, all the more serious because of the seriousness of the root crimes.
Agreed.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Anyone who reads my post knows I did not do any such thing. But you, sir, have jumped the shark.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)You called for vigilanteism when you wrote:
Which is why I asked the question for you to clarify your vague equating of Barnett's house to the victim's house or seeming to call for similar actions against his house.
You have had ample opportunity in this thread to stand up against vigilantism but you have not yet done so. Take the opportunity now to do so clearly and unequivocally (as I have in previous posts here), and to stand up for the rule of law, which includes the presumption of innocence until proven guilty that has been hammered into stone over the centuries.
As to my "true intent"? My true intent is respect for the law. Vigilantism is not the solution in this case or any case, regardless of how great an injustice has been done. To my eye, the rape victims and their families are the victims of a great injustice, but I am not the one to be judge, jury, and executioner. Nor are you the one and nobody at DU has that role either.
If my "true intent" is not clear enough for you in any one post, then read all the posts I have made in this thread and it should be crystal clear.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)that it happened.
All three offenders confessed.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)motherfuckers who RAPED HER AND POSTED THE VIDEOS ONLINE???? Fuck that shit.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Vigilante justice and mob violence and lynching and high-tech lynching is not the answer here or anywhere.
The answer is Federal pressure to investigate the State Representative, the local police and the prosecutors for conspiracies to Obstruct Justice and Influence Peddling. That will flush out the evidence and probably force the prosecutors to present a proper case.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)like that?
or would it be the rapists already video of the confession of rape?
they used the net to humiliate the girl even more and as entertainment for their buddies, nad now the net is being used to show the rapists face.
this is the "high-tech lynching" you are talking about?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Who is going to be the judge and jury and executioner to decide if vigilantism is allowable in this case but not another case?
Answer: nobody. Vigilantism is either the wrong thing in all cases or no cases. Either all cases should be tried by and punishment executed by vigilantes or no cases should be tried and executed by them.
Either there is mob rule in this and all cases or no mob rule ever.
As previously stated, the police and prosecutors and State Representative have failed and may themselves have committed crimes in this mess, so it is time for the Feds to get involved and investigate and clean it up.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)vocal. but as of yet and the same as steubenville, i have yet to see any vigilantism
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)DevonRex wrote:
Apparently even the poor family's supporters in the town should be punished too by punishing the whole town.
madrchsod wrote:
Denial of service attack is vigilantism. Knock out the local police force communications right when they are responding to another rape or arson? Not wise.
Arugula Latte wrote:
Already tried and convicted by that poster.
calimary recommends vigilante penectomy:
calimary recommends eye-for-an-eye vigliantism:
VA_Jill wrote:
seabeyond trashed the teenagers right to protection under the law from vigilantes:
philosslayer wrote:
I understand the outrage at what happened in Maryville. But there have been multiple instances in the internet age when the wrong person was identified as guilty of a crime, and spent a considerable amount of their lives trying to live that down. Yet, the wise denizens of DU, none of whom I would guess have ever met the alleged perp or victim, are willing to post the young man's picture without benefit of a trial or evidence that they have reviewed, and proclaim him guilty. If he is in fact NOT guilty, that will forever alter his ability to get a job or otherwise defend his reputation. That is the 21st century version of vigilante justice..
I agree.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)that at all or just about the poor guy who did the raping and left her to freeze to death on her front porch?
And the fine members of that town are STILL calling her a slut and worse.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)Really? Where? I can't seem to find it anywhere in this story.
Oh wait, you mean the system that dropped all the charges because the perp had good political connections. Yep, that one seems to be working great....if you're a rapist. Not so much if you're a victim, though.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Not so much if you're a victim, though.
very well said. thank you
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)DLevine
(1,788 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, Are_grits_groceries.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)hue
(4,949 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I'd LOVE to join Anonymous. How does a cool middle-aged white chick with minimal computer skills but a strong sense of justice and good Reasoning and English skills get involved??
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)a few times in my life. They were some pretty cool results, now that I think about it.
But seriously, I thought Anonymous was a high-skill computer centered thing.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)are high skill media savvy and media manipulation. Despite the 20-somethings infatuation with video, reading is still exercised by large numbers of all segments of society.
So when you see anonymous strike a blow for justice, blog it.
Good luck with it.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I was just describing myself in what I thought was an amusingly silly way.
Orrex
(63,213 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Middle age makes everything funny.
Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)Right as usual,Prof!
Orrex
(63,213 posts)Through most of my college years, I heard a great many artists and authors dismissed outright as "old dead white guys."
MelissainKC
(11 posts)Why the parents who owned the home were not charged with some crime since all these minors were drinking in their home, how did they get the booze? Why were the boys not charged with attempted manslaughter for abandoning the girl in conditions that could have proved fatal?
Lars39
(26,109 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)I'm angry. I live in Warrensburg, where the rapist is attending university and I have a teen daughter. A rapist who likes them young is running the streets of this town because Maryville can't get their shit together and bring about justice for a rape victim. Instead, they let the man go so he can eventually terrorize another town.
MelissainKC
(11 posts)And am in this jerk offs district. The seat is now occupied by Sam Graves. One more reason to call him tomorrow.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)Supposedly he's buddy-buddy with Graves and the whole family has worked on Graves' campaign.
I'm sorry you have Graves. I'm no better off-I have Vicky Hartzler and my state rep is Denny Hoskins. Both are crap.
alp227
(32,026 posts)People mistake him for the current rep because his legislator page is still live on the Missouri State Legislature website.
but somehow still seems to wield power in the area.
calimary
(81,304 posts)Glad you're here! You speak as a local. They're bound to pay more attention to you than they would if some jerk from California (like yours truly) called and complained.
DO IT. Start hanging it around their necks like a big fat millstone. So they can't escape. May it eventually run THEM out of town!!!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)I hope he shows up Homecoming weekend, since he is a UCM grad. I plan on wearing a Justice4Daisy shirt the whole day.
BTW-I also sent him one.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)Anyone reading this thread in the area-University of Central Missouri Homecoming is October 26. Come on down and wear a daisy or a message about Justice For Daisy to the parade at 9, the tailgating at 11 and the game at 1.
calimary
(81,304 posts)Thanks!
xmas74
(29,674 posts)Check out this page for his email, along with others involved.
http://femanist.net/?p=212#comment-167
Turns out someone sent an email to a city council member and they were a bit smart mouthed with them.
alp227
(32,026 posts)But I'm sure the IT people at the Missouri Legislature must be wondering about all that extra traffic to a long inactive email address.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)account thru the school as part of his retirement package. i can see the same thing with something like this. maybe there is a reason it is still accessible. but thanks for letting us know that he is long retired. i did not know
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)According to the sheriff, they not only have video, but all four boys involved confessed on film. He said it should be an open and shut case, but the prosecutor is refusing to prosecute anyone involved.
spooky3
(34,456 posts)Shampoobra
(423 posts)CRIMINAL LAW COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com012.htm
APPROPRIATIONS - CORRECTIONS AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com125.htm
PUBLIC SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com129.htm
MOTOR VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC REGULATIONS COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com032.htm
I'm so glad this family finally has a chance at justice.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The only thing he sits on now is his ass.
Shampoobra
(423 posts)I was under the impression that his presence on the state's official site meant he was currently serving, and I posted those links without carefully reading the pages. I'm glad you pointed it out so I can avoid a mistake like that in the future.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)He's not been a state critter for more than 10 years. But I'm sure all his law enforcement connections are why his grandson, Matthew Barnett, is not being prosecuted.
spooky3
(34,456 posts)they should have said "former representative"...
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)It really bothers me when then they say "Gov Palin" or "Gov Romney" instead of "former Governor..."
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)They were drinking afterall. And they snuck out of the house. So it was all their fault. If they hadn't done that then nothing would have happened.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Grandaddy Rex is raping the nation, Grandson Mathew rapes little girls.
GentryDixon
(2,952 posts)My screen name comes from the county (Gentry) Mrs. Coleman moved from and fled back to after this terrible crime.
In doing my genealogy I found my relatives lived in Gentry County in the 1830-1920 time frame. I have been to the Library in Albany, Gentry County 3 times in the last 6 years. One trip to visit the Library I spent in a motel in Marysville, Nodaway County. It is a very lovely, rural area. It's too bad a privileged few can taint the area, but then again, Nodaway County is where Mary J Stennitt was murdered for her baby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbie_Jo_Stinnett
I hope these predators are brought to justice.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)He attends college in my town.
I'm pretty angry, knowing that he's a free man running the streets here.
GentryDixon
(2,952 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)And everyone is sharing it.
MelissainKC
(11 posts)Raymond Gunn (January 11, 1904 January 12, 1931) was an African American killed by a mob in Maryville, Missouri, United States, after he confessed to killing and attempting to rape a white school teacher.
The case received massive national publicity because it occurred outside the Southern "lynch belt", because of its brazen and planned nature, and because the county sheriff did not activate National Guard troops that had been specifically deployed to prevent the lynching.
The case was frequently invoked in the unsuccessful attempt to pass the Wagner-Costigan Act during the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt, which would have made it a federal crime for law enforcement officials to refuse to try to prevent a lynching.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)like moochers on SSI.
VA_Jill
(9,979 posts)However, this is a case that DEMANDS it. To begin with, a 14 year old girl cannot legally consent, and that's just for starters. This guy is a complete schitthead in so many ways I can't even begin to count them. He deserves whatever he gets. I hope it's nasty, I hope it's ugly, and I hope it's real soon. Go Anonymous!
xmas74
(29,674 posts)With a BAC over .08 she cannot consent.
It doesn't matter if she begged for it, she couldn't consent. (And she didn't consent-the evidence of vaginal tearing is proof.)
calimary
(81,304 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)do so. Just FYI.
calimary
(81,304 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)referring to. I imagine it would be OK to post info on any public figure, though who is a "public figure" could be in dispute.
I can never remember where to find the TOS, but I guess I ought to review it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)notice, when scanning the thread,the request for contact info for what I thought was a private citizen. Since I had just read that OP about not posting that sort of info, I just thought I'd mention it.
I'm always jumping between 20 different tabs open and am generally multitasking. You know what they say, multi-taskers do a lot of things, not necessarily well.
So, I never ended up getting back to reading this thread until I saw your response to me. Sorry for the confusion! What a horrible story. I wonder what Anonymous is planning.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)Ken Rex McElroy (June 1, 1934 July 10, 1981) was a resident of Nodaway County, Missouri, near the town of Skidmore. Known as "the town bully",[1] his unsolved murder became the focus of international attention. Over the course of his life McElroy was accused of dozens of felonies, including assault, child molestation, rape, arson, hog and cattle rustling, and burglary.[2]
In all, he was indicted 21 times, but escaped conviction each time, except for the last.[2][3] In 1981, McElroy was convicted of shooting and seriously injuring the town's 70-year-old grocer, Ernest "Bo" Bowenkamp, the previous year.[1] McElroy successfully appealed the conviction and was released on bond, after which he engaged in an ongoing harassment campaign against Bowenkamp, the town's Church of Christ minister, and others who were sympathetic to Bowenkamp. He appeared in a local bar, the D&G Tavern, armed with an M1 Garand rifle and bayonet, and later threatened to kill Bowenkamp.[1][3] The next day, McElroy was shot to death in broad daylight as he sat with his wife Trena in his pickup truck on Skidmore's main street.[2] He was struck by bullets from at least two different firearms, in front of a crowd of people estimated as between 30 and 46.[1] To date, no one has been charged in connection with McElroy's death.[1]
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy
xmas74
(29,674 posts)is the name of the book about McElroy.
I knew someone from Skidmore. We were all drinking one night and they admitted they knew who did it. He muttered a name, which I recognized from the book.
No, I'm not going to say the name. I don't know if he really knew or not. He probably did but I wouldn't betray him.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)Just so hard to fathom the brutality. Even though I have seen it up close and in person. There is something grossly wrong with the way we are socializing men in this society.
Thank you Anonymous.
Drale
(7,932 posts)I would guess 99.9% of rapes perpetrated by young men, where raised in a conservative house in which dad "wore the pants" and mom "made dinner". I was raised correctly and would never ever take advantage of a drunk girl or even think about doing anything without 100% of her sober consent and I think the majority of men are the same.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The big difference of course was Kelly's parents aided and abetted his escape from justice, which did eventually happen, but this criminal goes around acting like nothing happened and is protected by an entire town.
distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)It's got everything - dropped charges because of "connections", excessive victim-blaming, reckless endangerment, arson. I hope this jackass gets what's coming to him. Go get 'em, Anonymous!
NeoConsSuck
(2,544 posts)rwsanders
(2,605 posts)State of MO designs most of their own computer systems, which means they are not very secure and buggy.
Just thought you might want to know.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)this "NEWS" on the local Craigslist. That should get a bit of attention.
NoodleyAppendage
(4,619 posts)J
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)there is no consent here--even if she said yes, she still could not consent.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)basic rights, and the rights granted by our constitution because the rule of civility and lawful process has been circumvented for the enrichment or protection of an affluent and powerful few....
...then it's time to fight for our rights by any means possible. It's no less important than the necessity of the American Revolution or the US Civil War. Our rights, the rights of us all are at stake. If it takes peaceful protest, satiagraha, or forced transparency to serve justice, then so be it.
Let it be.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)WCLinolVir
(951 posts)On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, at 10:00am we will meet at the Nodaway County Courthouse in Maryville, Missouri with daisies in our hands for a peaceful protest in support of Daisy Coleman. The objective for the protest will be to get the case reopened so that justice may be served.
https://www.facebook.com/events/648396251860031/
radicalliberal
(907 posts)Were it not for Anonymous, we wouldn't even be aware of these scandals. The regular media aren't exactly vigilant in this regard. They send a great message. I guess our daughters don't count, especially when the perps are "favored." As a father, I happen to have two.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)rdking647
(5,113 posts)and is owned by the parents of the one who videotaped the rape.
check out their yelp reviews
http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-g-restaurant-maryville#query:a%26g%20restaurant
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)of that business.
marble falls
(57,099 posts)of children in the family and as waiters is something they don't want to talk about.
http://agrestaurant.com/
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:50 AM - Edit history (1)
Just to keep that in mind.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)TRIAL BY TWITTER
After high-school football stars were accused of rape, online vigilantes demanded that justice be served. Was it?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)And anything besides name-calling?
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)Your point?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)A lot of wild claims were made, especially by the woman who published Prinnified. Some of them were true. Some were not. But they were all pretty much gobbled up whole by a lot of people, including right here on this board.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . Nothing in the article changes the fundamental fact that those boys had sex with the girl when they knew damned well she was in no position to be able to give or withhold consent. They raped her, pure and simple.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)wrong and the contemptible. instead of ignoring it all. when justice is not served, ignored, blatantly denied, then sloppy is going to happen. tough fuckin shit. they lost all rights to consideration
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)What a sad POV.
As far as I'm concerned, anonymous can out these puke rapists full time
libdude
(136 posts)Anonymous for their efforts. They made a difference in the Stubenville, OH rape case after local authorities, school officials and many in the community attempted to turn their backs on justice for the victim. The focus by the hacktivist group and the larger public put a great deal of pressure on the locals and at the State level, to the point that Mike Dewine, Ohio Attorney General was pushed to investigate and impanel a Grand Jury. This is still in progress. The corrupt football coach is under scrutiny for having knowledge of the rape and failing to report it as required by law. Oddly enough, t
he school board just gave him a new contract, just demonstrates their craven disregard for the rights of others. The two convicted rapists are enjoying the accommodations of the state prison system.
Keep up the pressure on this latest example of injustice.
happypeacebug
(20 posts)bmn
(10 posts)Hey guys, casual lurker and "real" anon here. Just posting to clear up the misconception that Anonymous is some coherent group of elite freedom fighting hacktivist vigilantes. They're more diverse in opinion and experience than any other online community, and any person or persons can be Anonymous. In fact, those that pretend to be internet superheroes are usually frowned upon by the general population. Want to join Anonymous? Go to any chan (4chan, 7chan, 420chan, etc.) and make a post without filling in the name field. Congrats, you are now Anonymous.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)Dec. 11
Matthew B. Barnett, 17, Maryville, Mo., was arrested for driving while intoxicated, failure to drive on right half of roadway, and person less than 18 possessing cigarettes.
http://www.nwmissourinews.com/news/police_blotter/article_b9e20986-3bc9-11e1-bc34-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area (correct blotter)
Just had a conversation with the police in Maryville and was told there is no info available. When asked what my interest was, I was told by this deputy (female) that MB is not a rapist, and she said quote "actually I know the truth". When I asked for her name, she hung up. Her name is Christy Forney. 660-562-3209. It would be nice if we could find out why there was no record, yet was released originally on police blotter from the city of Maryville. I think we know why. Also why a rep of police would feel it appropriate to volunteer her opinion, in a snide tone of voice no less.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)cause there is no record, it must mean it is the truth....
interesting work wc. thank you for this information. i would like to hear more from this woman.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)Have not checked thoroughly, but looks like there is no report on copy of blotter available off of Maryville city site. But the copy originally sent to nwmissourinews.com, in their Jan 2012 police blotter post, it is there. Have already asked for copies. I can only pray I get a copy of original blotter.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Barnett's getting all the scrutiny but there were two crimes committed that night.
Whose the other guy?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)The other girl is just as deserving of justice as Daisy.
Horrific story.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)think 17 from what i hear. they are keep the 15 name quiet along with 13 yr old girl. might have seen her name once. the 13 yr old made it back into the house. the other was left on the lawn. i heard one acct that matt would not let daisy up and into house. but... all that has to be sorted and not really the publics job. i only see my role yelling loud, and abusively and aggressively enough to get a relook.
calimary
(81,304 posts)The reviews in reaction to this story are really stunning.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-g-restaurant-maryville#query:a%26g%20restaurant
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)The other guy's definitely not spared in the reviews
radicalliberal
(907 posts)I didn't really care for the Răpes Suzette.
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Try this guy, the one on the right:
There is a rumor that he is the Attorney General. (202) 514-2001
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Thank you so much Anonymous, I'm glad we have super smart wonks working for justice.
These scumbags, including the enablers who swept this under the rug. should be punished harshly.
Keep on keeping on Anonymous - who, according to them, was the reason for Karl Rove's meltdown when Fox News called Ohio for Obama last November.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)not only Steubenville, but Rehtaeh Parsons and Audrie Pott, two teen girls in Nova Scotia and California who killed themselves
and others. texas. conneticut.
because too much a norm
jsr
(7,712 posts)WCLinolVir
(951 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)https://twitter.com/Trey3maughan/status/179791873660030976
https://twitter.com/Trey3maughan/status/179769326633623553
The main tweets for this are in the March 2012 tweets. Yo
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)By the way, take screen shots so these can't disappear forever. It's easy.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)what would be the joke in them all raising bended knee like that?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)The right to free speech is to protect the speech of people we don't like and revile, because if we don't then others who don't like our speech will deny the right to us.
The right to a fair trial and due process and protection from vigilantism is to protect people we don't like (people who often actually have committed heinous crimes). If we don't protect them, then nobody will protect us and any of us could be accused of a trumped up crime and harmed, injured or killed by vigilantes.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the vigilantism is not happening to matt and crew. the vigilantism happened when a girl was raped and her mother harassed out of town.
i do not get why you are lecturing people in the thread exercising our right to speech.