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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:12 PM Oct 2013

WOW! Anonymous just released a STATEMENT about Marysville:

Greetings, World.

We are #OpMaryville.

Two young girls have been raped in the town of Maryville, Missouri. Another high school football star, the grandson of a Missouri state official, has walked free. The people of Maryville turned their backs on these victims and one family has been forced to flee the town. After they left, their house was burned to the ground.

On January 8th, a 14-year-old girl named Daisy and her 13-year-old friend were both raped in Maryville. Evidence of this assault was captured on film. Daisy’s unconscious body was later dumped into her family’s yard, left alone for hours in freezing weather. One of Daisy’s attackers was initially in police custody, where he admitted to having sex with her while she was under the influence.

He claimed it was consensual. The hospital states the young girl’s blood alcohol level was almost twice the legal limit and they discovered three tears inside of her body, 2-4 inches in length.

This suspect rapist is Matthew Barnett, a student at the University of Central Missouri. He’s the grandson of Missouri state Representative, Rex Barnett.

We demand an immediate investigation into the handling by local authorities of Daisy’s case. Why were the suspects initially arrested and then released? How was video and medical evidence not enough to put one of these football players inside a court room? What is the connection of these prosecutors, if any, to Rep. Rex Barnett? Most of all, We are wondering, how do the residents of Maryville sleep at night?

We have heard Daisy’s story far too often. We heard it from Steubenville, Halifax and Uttar Pradesh. In some cases, action meant nothing because it couldn’t bring them back. Both Amanda Todd and Rehtaeh Parsons, girls not much older than Daisy, took their own lives after the adults, the police and the school system, failed to protect them. If Maryville won’t defend these young girls, if the police are to cowardly or corrupt to do their jobs, if justice system has abandoned them, then someone else will have to stand for them. Mayor Jim Fall, your hands are dirty. Maryville, expect us.

We Are Anonymous.
We Are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Join us.

#OpMaryville #Justice4Daisy
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/10/14/anonymous-demands-justice-2-girls-raped-left-die-charges-dropped-rapist-related-gop-figure-justice4daisy/

You can run, bit you can't hide.

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WOW! Anonymous just released a STATEMENT about Marysville: (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 OP
naming names! rapist must be shivering in his rapist boots Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #1
The name was released in numerous news stories, so this is not MineralMan Oct 2013 #3
Never mind JonLP24 Oct 2013 #13
Yup. And there was an article that said it's a small town dominated by 5-6 families cui bono Oct 2013 #76
perfect place for waste dumping? grahampuba Oct 2013 #142
I saw in another DU post by someone who attends the tblue37 Oct 2013 #71
Yeah, he's no longer the big shot living a sheltered life. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #78
But Anonymous, due to their record of success in exposing sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #96
It was reported in the Kansas City Star several days ago.. Princess Turandot Oct 2013 #108
Good for them, and good for Anonymous for picking up the ball and sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #125
There you are... MineralMan Oct 2013 #122
Mine is based on their record of success in exposing corruption. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #124
+1 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #126
+1 Go Vols Oct 2013 #193
i`m thinking a lot of denial of service and other tricks of the trade... madrchsod Oct 2013 #2
Here's a report from the Daily Mail... KansDem Oct 2013 #4
I don't know why anyone wants to give the Daily Mail any traffic. It's utter trash. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #6
Here Beaverhausen Oct 2013 #8
Find them yourself. Help prove how trashy our own press has become. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #40
The Daily Mail gets it right quite often. I don't find it trash. RebelOne Oct 2013 #42
Daily Mail = Rupert Murdoch. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2013 #84
No it doesn't nxylas Oct 2013 #107
Oops yer right! I think I assumed far right = Murdoch somehow. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2013 #201
It's owned by the 4th Viscount Rothermere nxylas Oct 2013 #202
Hah! nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2013 #203
How I see it, too. marble falls Oct 2013 #119
That came up pretty near the top of a Google search. Why must it be a British tabloid? SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #37
"...influential GOP representative." Gee, knock me over with a feather on that one. calimary Oct 2013 #70
Is this the reason for leniency? Xyzse Oct 2013 #5
Republican family values strike again! freshwest Oct 2013 #58
That's F-ed up. Xyzse Oct 2013 #85
What's fucked up? What figures? freshwest Oct 2013 #87
They get leniency for things like that. Xyzse Oct 2013 #92
Thanks. freshwest Oct 2013 #93
thanking whoever they are for fighting for these two young girls Skittles Oct 2013 #7
This man Matthew Barnett is a scumbag rapist. His crime should follow him for the rest of his life. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #9
rapist. and then had to take it a step further to put his rape on social network for others to get seabeyond Oct 2013 #10
That should be added charge of Producing Child Pornography. Hope he ends up on sex offender list. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #32
yes. it should. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #39
Another sociopath getting away with it!!! hue Oct 2013 #16
POS entitled spoiled little creep. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #20
can I help? yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #55
absolutely..come bite off faces with me! :) BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #61
agree!! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #63
:) BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #65
Let's turn him over to Lorena Bobbitt. calimary Oct 2013 #72
Innocent UNTIL proven guilty, but Matthew Barnett should be prosecuted to full extent of the law. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #30
Unfortunately... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #38
Shame the prosecutors into prosecuting and doing their job! INNOCENT until proven guilty. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #43
You do have a point... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #47
Then file Federal charges including Dereliction of Duty, Influence Peddling & Obstruction of Justice Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #49
Sorry, but when you rape a child then post the video online, AND DevonRex Oct 2013 #160
all three, 2 rapists and distributors of child porn also ADMITTED to the crimes on camera seabeyond Oct 2013 #168
Three tears, 2-4 inches in length, inside her 14 year old body. Torn. Squinch Oct 2013 #69
Horrible injuries, and he hoped she'd die of exposure in the cold. Attempted murder, he got away. freshwest Oct 2013 #88
Expect Poppy Harlow and Candy Crowley to shed tears over him, not the victim. radicalliberal Oct 2013 #104
+1 freshwest Oct 2013 #135
Really? philosslayer Oct 2013 #138
It was captured on video. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #140
So you've seen the video? philosslayer Oct 2013 #145
do you know anything, or is this rape of a couple girls just a fuckin game to you? seabeyond Oct 2013 #154
Vigilante justice is never a game to me philosslayer Oct 2013 #158
Vigilante justice? Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #159
Posting this young man's picture and identifying him as guilty is the 21st century version philosslayer Oct 2013 #161
Anybody burn HIS house down?? Force HIM to change schools? DevonRex Oct 2013 #163
Are you accusing him of burning down the house? Accusing him of the intimidation? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #183
it is NOT ours to figure out. it is OURS to raise enough damn hell to get more eyes on this seabeyond Oct 2013 #185
Not sure why you reply to me, since I'm pretty sure we agree on this. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #187
lol... i was surprised. lol/ nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #189
You wrote: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #194
You have overplayed your hand. Exposed your true intent. DevonRex Oct 2013 #197
Read all my posts in this thread if I am not clear enough for you in one. You wrote: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #199
The two rapists and the cameraman confessed to the sheriff. There's no dispute riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #170
Sorry, but the facts are not in dispute here n/t markpkessinger Oct 2013 #172
In that scummy town the GIRL got vigilante justice. The VICTIM. And you worry about the DevonRex Oct 2013 #162
gotta think about them boyzzzzz. wa. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #166
The justice system is not about an eye for an eye. As MLK said it leaves everyone blind. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #184
high-tech lynching? raping the girl and putting her rape on net for men to get off on seabeyond Oct 2013 #186
A counter-crime does not erase a first crime. Vigilantism in one case opens it up in all cases. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #188
my point and others. i am not seeing any vigilantism. i am seeing anger and outrage and a lot of seabeyond Oct 2013 #191
See these: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #198
Oh, they hi tech-lynched and re-raped the VICTIM, too. Worried about DevonRex Oct 2013 #195
so... you do NOT know anything. got it. you could not have answered the question more perfectly seabeyond Oct 2013 #165
"That's why we have a criminal justice system" distantearlywarning Oct 2013 #169
Yep, that one seems to be working great....if you're a rapist. seabeyond Oct 2013 #171
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #11
Thank you, Anonymous. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #14
Good. n/t Butterbean Oct 2013 #15
K&R!!! Go for the jugular Anonymous!! hue Oct 2013 #17
ah, awesome! I got goosebumps reading that. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #18
Write. Write often. Write voluminously but not verbosely. Post. Publish. Write. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #33
I do. maybe not voluminously, but I've gotten some change to happen BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #64
The anonymity & the white-hat hacking are computer high-skill. Publicizing, convincing, rallying Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #67
Color and sex (gender) have nothing to do with writing ability or reasoning power. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #35
sigh. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #62
Color and sex (gender) have nothing to do with describing oneself in an amusingly silly way Orrex Oct 2013 #115
it was really more about the age BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #117
"Color and sex (gender) have nothing to do with writing ability or reasoning power." Rain Mcloud Oct 2013 #68
That's a lovely sentiment, but... Orrex Oct 2013 #120
I wanna know MelissainKC Oct 2013 #19
Because that would have drawn attention to the crime that was trying to be swept under the rug. Lars39 Oct 2013 #22
Because this is grandpa xmas74 Oct 2013 #23
I live in kc MelissainKC Oct 2013 #27
Gramps is Maryville's state rep xmas74 Oct 2013 #28
Rex Barnett retired over 10 years ago actually. alp227 Oct 2013 #94
He did xmas74 Oct 2013 #109
DO IT!!! And Welcome to DU, MelissainKC! calimary Oct 2013 #74
i sent gramps an email. was i bad? nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #44
Gramps needs lots of emails. xmas74 Oct 2013 #46
good for you. this would be where social media rocks.... nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #48
I hope others take it up. xmas74 Oct 2013 #52
Please post it here! calimary Oct 2013 #77
The email address? xmas74 Oct 2013 #81
That email hasn't been read in over 10 years, because Rex Barnett left the Missouri House in 2002. alp227 Oct 2013 #95
not necessarily. my uncle was head of university and retired. he got to keep that email seabeyond Oct 2013 #98
It's worse than that Nevernose Oct 2013 #73
Grandpa Barnett is a Repub and on a criminal justice committee. spooky3 Oct 2013 #21
All four of the committees he sits on are related to law enforcement Shampoobra Oct 2013 #51
He retired more than 10 YEARS ago. JimDandy Oct 2013 #130
Thank you - I didn't see that when I looked at his mo.gov pages Shampoobra Oct 2013 #150
No...just a Repub JimDandy Oct 2013 #131
thanks for the correction - the OP and the stories linked that I read did NOT make that clear. spooky3 Oct 2013 #144
Yes, and I wish reporters and the media would do that too. JimDandy Oct 2013 #190
Well, around here it was the girl's fault. (sarcasm just in case you didn't know) leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #24
Runs in the family... Lancero Oct 2013 #25
This story is a bit close to my heart. GentryDixon Oct 2013 #26
The little bastard rapist is running around my town. xmas74 Oct 2013 #31
Hopefully the publicity will get him. n/t GentryDixon Oct 2013 #34
His picture is everywhere right now. xmas74 Oct 2013 #41
Maryville has a long history of grotesque acts. MelissainKC Oct 2013 #29
You'd think this would be a great story for 20-20 or 60 minutes. Oh never mind. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #36
60 Minutes has more important things to consider Enthusiast Oct 2013 #127
Normally I'm not a fan of vigilante justice.... VA_Jill Oct 2013 #45
At 14 in MO she cannot consent xmas74 Oct 2013 #50
Amen! Please post the asshole's GOP grandfather's email! calimary Oct 2013 #79
Someone posted recently to remind us that it is against DU's TOS to Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #89
Got it. calimary Oct 2013 #91
it is not against tos to get info like email for an elected official. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #97
Calimary was asking about a private citizen's info, not an elected official. That was all I was Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #99
the asshole grandfather is/was a state representative. it is his official email. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #100
In that case: Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #101
that is what was posted and the email address i used. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #102
Ah, I see. As you can see, I wasn't really following this thread. I just happened to Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #105
This brings to mind the story of Ken Rex McElroy, which I saw on 60 Minutes. factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #53
In Broad Daylight xmas74 Oct 2013 #75
Just no words for those survivors and their families. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #54
Its not all men who are socialized for rape Drale Oct 2013 #180
He reminds me of that creep Alex Kelly duffyduff Oct 2013 #56
This is the sickest "teenage football star gets away with rape" story I've heard yet distantearlywarning Oct 2013 #57
Thank you Anonymous! (no msg) NeoConsSuck Oct 2013 #59
If anonymous is monitoring this post... rwsanders Oct 2013 #60
I suggest posting BillyRibs Oct 2013 #66
Even if she consented, how is this NOT statutory rape? n/t NoodleyAppendage Oct 2013 #80
Two things, she was underage AND drunk justiceischeap Oct 2013 #164
If justice can't be had by the rules of civility, defacto7 Oct 2013 #82
KICK! R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #83
K&R all of these stories. nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #86
Protest for Daisy. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #90
Sick! Absolutely sick! radicalliberal Oct 2013 #103
Shared... whttevrr Oct 2013 #106
there is a restuarant in maryville that employed the rapist rdking647 Oct 2013 #110
people speaking up. yes, last night i read a lot of those. i would like to be a fly on the wall seabeyond Oct 2013 #114
They've disabled the the "Talk to Us" page of their own website. In guess having rapists .... marble falls Oct 2013 #123
Careful. About half of what was on the web about Steubenville turned out to be wrong Recursion Oct 2013 #111
bullshit. i do not know what you were reading about steubenville, but i did not see that at all. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #112
Try this piece from the New Yorker: Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #139
you are a piece of worker. such a hard working apologist you are. seabeyond Oct 2013 #143
Any comment on the content of the article I linked to? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #153
Ok I read it ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #149
As the article points out, there was a lot of shit flung around Steubenville. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #155
"Wild claims" aside . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #173
That's true. They sexually assaulted her when she was semi- or unconscious. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #175
and it got prosecuters and others taking another look so at the very least it allowed to sort the seabeyond Oct 2013 #113
Really. That's what you got out of that entire situation. Huh. ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #147
Credit to libdude Oct 2013 #116
K&R happypeacebug Oct 2013 #118
Anonymous bmn Oct 2013 #121
Police blotter report. Why is this guy allowed to attend a university? WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #128
i guess she knows the truth he isnt a rapist, like she knows the truth he didnt drink and drive, seabeyond Oct 2013 #129
Working on it! SI is going to be pissed-no chores done yet. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #132
There were TWO rapes that night. What about the other guy? riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #133
yes. two rapes. and another guy videod. and we hear little. one girl 14, the other... 13. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #134
So there should be some focus on three suspects riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #136
yes. the one male we are not hearing much about is 15, the other two 17 or 18 but, i seabeyond Oct 2013 #137
On the first page of the reviews somebody wrote about that and named a name. calimary Oct 2013 #141
Wow! riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #148
Yeah, take at look at the reviews! radicalliberal Oct 2013 #152
Go santamargarita Oct 2013 #146
If you want to do something for Justice and these two girls, here's a phone number to call. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #151
Adults Sweeping The Rape Of Young Teenage Girls To Protect Football Players Is Despicable colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #156
Here's what a rapist with political connections looks like. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #157
not only Steubenville, Rehtaeh Parsons and Audrie Pott, two girls in Nova Scotia, Ca., suicide seabeyond Oct 2013 #167
Lower than scum. jsr Oct 2013 #174
Does anyone live in Maryville? Or very close? WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #176
there was a newbie poster. let me see if i can find her. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #177
kansas city. and another poster in the college town seabeyond Oct 2013 #178
Tweets celebrating their release in 2012 pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #179
"That's what you get for being a skank" pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #181
the last photo of all the guys gigglin', seabeyond Oct 2013 #182
Folks, remember, Rights are there to Protect People We Don't Like. Even nasty vile despicable people Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #192
the thing is... the folks you are lecturing are merely exercising their right to speech. seabeyond Oct 2013 #196
I'm encouraging the speech, but not the vigilantism. See my other reply to you about that. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #200

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. The name was released in numerous news stories, so this is not
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:26 PM
Oct 2013

new. What the intentions of the script kiddies at Anonymous is uncertain. We shall see, perhaps. But others are calling this person out on the Internet, as well.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
76. Yup. And there was an article that said it's a small town dominated by 5-6 families
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:24 PM
Oct 2013

and the perp's family is one of the powerful ones.

tblue37

(65,393 posts)
71. I saw in another DU post by someone who attends the
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:19 PM
Oct 2013

same college as the rapist that even before the Anonymous warning, others who had read the newspaper story had begun to take action, including sororities. Apparently there were even posters with his picture, with the label "rapist," put up around campus.

He has no doubt been smugly patting himself on the back, thinking he got away with it, and apparently he's been posting on Facebook or Twitter (I forget which) that ALL girls want him.

It looks as though he is in for an uncomfortable reality check.


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
96. But Anonymous, due to their record of success in exposing
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:11 AM
Oct 2013

criminal behavior, will get a lot more attention than anyone else. Who are the others who are exposing the crime? This is the first I heard about it.

Thanks again Anonymous.

Btw, what makes you think they are 'kiddies'? I know that is what they WANT some people to think and a few of them are, but it's odd that you would refer to them that way, considering that Democrats in general understand, and have for years, (enough time btw, for the 'kiddies' to have grown up), what they are about.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
122. There you are...
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 2013

Well, it's been covered in depth locally in the news, which is easy enough to find. A little searching also turns up a lot of people talking about this. The perpetrators' names have been published in many places.

As for Anonymous, my opinion of that disorganization is well-known. I don't like Anonymous. I don't like their tactics and their lack of attention to what is and is not important. However, you appear to believe that you understand what "Democrats" want and think. I believe you are incorrect, and have said so in the past as well.

"Script Kiddies" does not refer to the actual ages of the hacker kids at Anonymous. It's more a reference to their capabilities, which appear to be only a little more developed than the usual run of Internet gamers. That is my opinion. Yours might be different. That's fine.

See you in some other thread...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
124. Mine is based on their record of success in exposing corruption.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:54 AM
Oct 2013

Especially in undermining the corrupt tactics used by our so-called 'security contractors' and their 'customers'.

I always support the exposure of the bad guys, the ones who work against Democrats.

They are very effective, but wouldn't be needed at all if we had a functioning system that deals with wrong-doing among the powerful. Until that happens, there will always be groups, like Anonymous, who step into the breach, thankfully. Which is why they are so popular. I doubt your opinion, or mine, is going to prevent or cause that. It's just a symptom of the corruption that is so prevalent, without consequences, among the powerful.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
2. i`m thinking a lot of denial of service and other tricks of the trade...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:24 PM
Oct 2013

i hope anonymous kicks the shit out of those so called officials.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. I don't know why anyone wants to give the Daily Mail any traffic. It's utter trash.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:28 PM
Oct 2013

Let's find other links, please.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
42. The Daily Mail gets it right quite often. I don't find it trash.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oct 2013

You don't like it because it is British?

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
107. No it doesn't
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:45 AM
Oct 2013

The Mail is not a Murdoch paper. It is, however, a far-right paper which supported Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists in the 1930s and was the only British newspaper allowed to be sold in Mussolini's Italy. And no, it's politics haven't changed much in the intervening years, it is just a little less blatant about it's Fascism these days - more Tea Party than Stormfront,

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
202. It's owned by the 4th Viscount Rothermere
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:17 AM
Oct 2013

Son of the 3rd Viscount Rothermere, pictured below with a friend (Rothermere's the one on the left).

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
37. That came up pretty near the top of a Google search. Why must it be a British tabloid?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:17 PM
Oct 2013

I'm so freaking pissed by our pathetic media. Did you know that Sandra Bullock did a rap song on the British Jonathan Ross tv Show? HuffingtonPost broke that story.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
70. "...influential GOP representative." Gee, knock me over with a feather on that one.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:16 PM
Oct 2013

Why am I not surprised.

I tell you, these people are Fucking EVIL!!!!!!

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
7. thanking whoever they are for fighting for these two young girls
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:40 PM
Oct 2013

it can make the world of difference in their lives going forward

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. rapist. and then had to take it a step further to put his rape on social network for others to get
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:08 PM
Oct 2013

off on. shame on each and every one of the very little pricks.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
20. POS entitled spoiled little creep.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:36 PM
Oct 2013

Reap what you sown, scumbag.

Oh, and if anyone here uses words for him that actually are derived from etymologically misogynistic words which further devalue women, like d-bag and beeyotch, I will personally bite your face off.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
61. absolutely..come bite off faces with me! :)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:03 PM
Oct 2013

Just because these words have become normalized doesn't mean they're ok. It only means that men and women both are deadened to the insult done to women.

These same people would never use the N word or the F word--and would alert on anyone who did.

If the witty snarky heroes and heroines of teevee say it and get laffs (bullshit tasteless pre-recorded laffs, but who's counting?) then of course it's ok and no harm done. "Cuz all the kool kids do it and it makes me feel tuff and witty. And anyway, it's too hard to think of insults that aren't based in female-disgust."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
43. Shame the prosecutors into prosecuting and doing their job! INNOCENT until proven guilty.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:23 PM
Oct 2013

Hey, you know why the teen's family moved?

Because of public shaming and intimidation. Shaming is a form of intimidation.

Know why the Halifax teen committed suicide? Public shaming.

The principle of "innocent until proven guilty" is there for a purpose. Better that a dozen guilty people go free than one innocent person be convicted or shamed into suicide or hounded out of town.

Once convicted, then it is a matter of public record and that can be publicized.

Until then, the prosecutors need to be pressured to bring a serious and winnable case.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
49. Then file Federal charges including Dereliction of Duty, Influence Peddling & Obstruction of Justice
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:37 PM
Oct 2013

If the prosecutors won't budge then file Federal charges, including possibly charging the Prosecutor for Dereliction of Duty: taking salary while not delivering adequate performance (would have to be better constructed than that to work).

Then investigate the whole mess and uncover the influence peddling and the Obstruction of Justice, probably a conspiracy driven by the grandfather state representative who may be corrupt.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
160. Sorry, but when you rape a child then post the video online, AND
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:00 PM
Oct 2013

your grandfather gets the prosecutor to drop all charges? Public outcry about the injustice done to the VICTIM and his FUTURE victims is all there is.

He even left her to die, passed out on her front porch in 22° weather in T-shirt and sweatpants. No shoes. Rape? How about attempted murder? As far as I'm concerned he should be branded with that as well.

Not only that but that evil little town should be branded as the sickest, slimiest place in the whole USA. Those motherfuckers ALL proved themselves guilty by their own actions. Every scummy one of them.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
168. all three, 2 rapists and distributors of child porn also ADMITTED to the crimes on camera
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oct 2013

to the sherriff

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
88. Horrible injuries, and he hoped she'd die of exposure in the cold. Attempted murder, he got away.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:25 AM
Oct 2013

I doubt that is the first time he did this, and won't be the last, but GOP grandpa is going to make sure he gets off. Or probably send him to the Cayman Islands or some other foreign place to live in luxury.

Wait for it.

I can't imagine what she must be going through and will need surgery. She probably all kinds of damage.

He made sure she was helpless, what is it with these guys? They want sex with nearly dead people?

Sick psychopath, no way to fix him.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
104. Expect Poppy Harlow and Candy Crowley to shed tears over him, not the victim.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:09 AM
Oct 2013

After all, we're talking about a football career! We must keep our priorities straight!

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
158. Vigilante justice is never a game to me
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

This young man may very well be guilty. But thats why we have a criminal justice system.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
159. Vigilante justice?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:48 PM
Oct 2013

Laughable. None of us here at Democratic Underground are saddling up and heading over to Marysville to organize a good old-fashioned necktie party.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
161. Posting this young man's picture and identifying him as guilty is the 21st century version
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

I understand the outrage at what happened in Maryville. But there have been multiple instances in the internet age when the wrong person was identified as guilty of a crime, and spent a considerable amount of their lives trying to live that down. Yet, the wise denizens of DU, none of whom I would guess have ever met the alleged perp or victim, are willing to post the young man's picture without benefit of a trial or evidence that they have reviewed, and proclaim him guilty. If he is in fact NOT guilty, that will forever alter his ability to get a job or otherwise defend his reputation. That is the 21st century version of vigilante justice..

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
163. Anybody burn HIS house down?? Force HIM to change schools?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oct 2013

Move to another fucking town? Fire his PARENTS from their jobs? That happened to the GIRL. The VICTIM.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
183. Are you accusing him of burning down the house? Accusing him of the intimidation?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

That's why we have trials and the official presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

The lynch mob here has already convicted him of everything under the sun. What he has admitted to is bad enough. Force the prosecutors and the police to take him to a proper trial, or charge them with obstructing justice and conspiracy and influence peddling. Charge the grandfather representative with the same.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
185. it is NOT ours to figure out. it is OURS to raise enough damn hell to get more eyes on this
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

and the PROPER people figure this shit out.

they walked away from it. that is the crime. we are saying walk the fuck back to it and do your damn job

it is not ours to do.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
194. You wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:39 PM
Oct 2013

seabeyond wrote:

it is NOT ours to figure out.

Agreed. That's what police detectives are for. However "obvious" it might seem.

Aside from the issue of justice and the rule of law, there are two other issues enraged would-be vigilantes don't think about:

1) There are likely other crimes that would get obliterated by vigilantism and never be exposed. For example, the State Rep may (repeat may even if it seems "obvious&quot have used his influence to obstruct justice. In the rush to make life a living hell for the teenager, that evidence can get trampled and obscured and then the State Rep would get away with it.

2) Detectives are trained. Enraged mobs are not.


it is OURS to raise enough damn hell to get more eyes on this

Agreed. It needs to be publicized and pressure brought to bear on the state and to get the Feds involved to get to the bottom of the crimes and the coverup and the obstruction of justice.


and the PROPER people figure this shit out.

Agreed. The proper people would be senior state law enforcement officers and senior state prosecutors and Federal law enforcement officers and Federal prosecutors and District Attorneys.


they walked away from it. that is the crime.

Agreed. The failure to prosecute, the coverup, the conspiracies, and the vigilante hounding of the family and the arson are serious crimes. Not as much a crime as the rapes and the attempted manslaughter, but extremely serious too, all the more serious because of the seriousness of the root crimes.


we are saying walk the fuck back to it and do your damn job it is not ours to do.

Agreed.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
197. You have overplayed your hand. Exposed your true intent.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 07:36 PM
Oct 2013

Anyone who reads my post knows I did not do any such thing. But you, sir, have jumped the shark.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
199. Read all my posts in this thread if I am not clear enough for you in one. You wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 07:55 PM
Oct 2013

You called for vigilanteism when you wrote:

In that scummy town the GIRL got vigilante justice. The VICTIM. And you worry about the motherfuckers who RAPED HER AND POSTED THE VIDEOS ONLINE???? Fuck that shit.
and then you seemed to include arson and intimidation as part of Barnett's crime when you wrote:
Anybody burn HIS house down?? Force HIM to change schools? Move to another fucking town? Fire his PARENTS from their jobs? That happened to the GIRL. The VICTIM.

Which is why I asked the question for you to clarify your vague equating of Barnett's house to the victim's house or seeming to call for similar actions against his house.

You have had ample opportunity in this thread to stand up against vigilantism but you have not yet done so. Take the opportunity now to do so clearly and unequivocally (as I have in previous posts here), and to stand up for the rule of law, which includes the presumption of innocence until proven guilty that has been hammered into stone over the centuries.


As to my "true intent"? My true intent is respect for the law. Vigilantism is not the solution in this case or any case, regardless of how great an injustice has been done. To my eye, the rape victims and their families are the victims of a great injustice, but I am not the one to be judge, jury, and executioner. Nor are you the one and nobody at DU has that role either.

If my "true intent" is not clear enough for you in any one post, then read all the posts I have made in this thread and it should be crystal clear.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
170. The two rapists and the cameraman confessed to the sheriff. There's no dispute
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

that it happened.

All three offenders confessed.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
162. In that scummy town the GIRL got vigilante justice. The VICTIM. And you worry about the
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:03 PM
Oct 2013

motherfuckers who RAPED HER AND POSTED THE VIDEOS ONLINE???? Fuck that shit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
184. The justice system is not about an eye for an eye. As MLK said it leaves everyone blind.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:34 PM
Oct 2013

Vigilante justice and mob violence and lynching and high-tech lynching is not the answer here or anywhere.

The answer is Federal pressure to investigate the State Representative, the local police and the prosecutors for conspiracies to Obstruct Justice and Influence Peddling. That will flush out the evidence and probably force the prosecutors to present a proper case.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
186. high-tech lynching? raping the girl and putting her rape on net for men to get off on
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:45 PM
Oct 2013

like that?

or would it be the rapists already video of the confession of rape?

they used the net to humiliate the girl even more and as entertainment for their buddies, nad now the net is being used to show the rapists face.

this is the "high-tech lynching" you are talking about?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
188. A counter-crime does not erase a first crime. Vigilantism in one case opens it up in all cases.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:19 PM
Oct 2013

Who is going to be the judge and jury and executioner to decide if vigilantism is allowable in this case but not another case?

Answer: nobody. Vigilantism is either the wrong thing in all cases or no cases. Either all cases should be tried by and punishment executed by vigilantes or no cases should be tried and executed by them.

Either there is mob rule in this and all cases or no mob rule ever.

As previously stated, the police and prosecutors and State Representative have failed and may themselves have committed crimes in this mess, so it is time for the Feds to get involved and investigate and clean it up.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
191. my point and others. i am not seeing any vigilantism. i am seeing anger and outrage and a lot of
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:22 PM
Oct 2013

vocal. but as of yet and the same as steubenville, i have yet to see any vigilantism

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
198. See these:
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 07:37 PM
Oct 2013

DevonRex wrote:

Not only that but that evil little town should be branded as the sickest, slimiest place in the whole USA. Those motherfuckers ALL proved themselves guilty by their own actions. Every scummy one of them.
DevonRex wrote:
In that scummy town the GIRL got vigilante justice. The VICTIM. And you worry about the motherfuckers who RAPED HER AND POSTED THE VIDEOS ONLINE???? Fuck that shit.

Apparently even the poor family's supporters in the town should be punished too by punishing the whole town.


madrchsod wrote:
i`m thinking a lot of denial of service and other tricks of the trade... i hope anonymous kicks the shit out of those so called officials.

Denial of service attack is vigilantism. Knock out the local police force communications right when they are responding to another rape or arson? Not wise.


Arugula Latte wrote:
This man Matthew Barnett is a scumbag rapist. His crime should follow him for the rest of his life.

Already tried and convicted by that poster.


calimary recommends vigilante penectomy:
Let's turn him over to Lorena Bobbitt. Her solution seems fitting for this crime.

calimary recommends eye-for-an-eye vigliantism:
Start hanging it around their necks like a big fat millstone. So they can't escape. May it eventually run THEM out of town!!!



VA_Jill wrote:
Normally I'm not a fan of vigilante justice.... However, this is a case that DEMANDS it. To begin with, a 14 year old girl cannot legally consent, and that's just for starters. This guy is a complete schitthead in so many ways I can't even begin to count them. He deserves whatever he gets. I hope it's nasty, I hope it's ugly, and I hope it's real soon.



seabeyond trashed the teenagers right to protection under the law from vigilantes:
when justice is not served, ignored, blatantly denied, then sloppy is going to happen. tough fuckin shit. they lost all rights to consideration



philosslayer wrote:
Posting this young man's picture and identifying him as guilty is the 21st century version {of vigilante justice}

I understand the outrage at what happened in Maryville. But there have been multiple instances in the internet age when the wrong person was identified as guilty of a crime, and spent a considerable amount of their lives trying to live that down. Yet, the wise denizens of DU, none of whom I would guess have ever met the alleged perp or victim, are willing to post the young man's picture without benefit of a trial or evidence that they have reviewed, and proclaim him guilty. If he is in fact NOT guilty, that will forever alter his ability to get a job or otherwise defend his reputation. That is the 21st century version of vigilante justice..


I agree.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
195. Oh, they hi tech-lynched and re-raped the VICTIM, too. Worried about
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 07:22 PM
Oct 2013

that at all or just about the poor guy who did the raping and left her to freeze to death on her front porch?

And the fine members of that town are STILL calling her a slut and worse.

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
169. "That's why we have a criminal justice system"
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

Really? Where? I can't seem to find it anywhere in this story.

Oh wait, you mean the system that dropped all the charges because the perp had good political connections. Yep, that one seems to be working great....if you're a rapist. Not so much if you're a victim, though.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
171. Yep, that one seems to be working great....if you're a rapist.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:39 PM
Oct 2013

Not so much if you're a victim, though.

very well said. thank you

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
18. ah, awesome! I got goosebumps reading that.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:30 PM
Oct 2013

I'd LOVE to join Anonymous. How does a cool middle-aged white chick with minimal computer skills but a strong sense of justice and good Reasoning and English skills get involved??

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
64. I do. maybe not voluminously, but I've gotten some change to happen
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:10 PM
Oct 2013

a few times in my life. They were some pretty cool results, now that I think about it.

But seriously, I thought Anonymous was a high-skill computer centered thing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
67. The anonymity & the white-hat hacking are computer high-skill. Publicizing, convincing, rallying
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:30 PM
Oct 2013

are high skill media savvy and media manipulation. Despite the 20-somethings infatuation with video, reading is still exercised by large numbers of all segments of society.

So when you see anonymous strike a blow for justice, blog it.

Good luck with it.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
120. That's a lovely sentiment, but...
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:26 AM
Oct 2013

Through most of my college years, I heard a great many artists and authors dismissed outright as "old dead white guys."

MelissainKC

(11 posts)
19. I wanna know
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:32 PM
Oct 2013

Why the parents who owned the home were not charged with some crime since all these minors were drinking in their home, how did they get the booze? Why were the boys not charged with attempted manslaughter for abandoning the girl in conditions that could have proved fatal?

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
23. Because this is grandpa
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills02/member02/mem004.htm


I'm angry. I live in Warrensburg, where the rapist is attending university and I have a teen daughter. A rapist who likes them young is running the streets of this town because Maryville can't get their shit together and bring about justice for a rape victim. Instead, they let the man go so he can eventually terrorize another town.

MelissainKC

(11 posts)
27. I live in kc
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:57 PM
Oct 2013

And am in this jerk offs district. The seat is now occupied by Sam Graves. One more reason to call him tomorrow.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
28. Gramps is Maryville's state rep
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oct 2013

Supposedly he's buddy-buddy with Graves and the whole family has worked on Graves' campaign.

I'm sorry you have Graves. I'm no better off-I have Vicky Hartzler and my state rep is Denny Hoskins. Both are crap.

alp227

(32,026 posts)
94. Rex Barnett retired over 10 years ago actually.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:10 AM
Oct 2013

People mistake him for the current rep because his legislator page is still live on the Missouri State Legislature website.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
74. DO IT!!! And Welcome to DU, MelissainKC!
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:23 PM
Oct 2013

Glad you're here! You speak as a local. They're bound to pay more attention to you than they would if some jerk from California (like yours truly) called and complained.

DO IT. Start hanging it around their necks like a big fat millstone. So they can't escape. May it eventually run THEM out of town!!!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
46. Gramps needs lots of emails.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

I hope he shows up Homecoming weekend, since he is a UCM grad. I plan on wearing a Justice4Daisy shirt the whole day.

BTW-I also sent him one.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
52. I hope others take it up.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:44 PM
Oct 2013

Anyone reading this thread in the area-University of Central Missouri Homecoming is October 26. Come on down and wear a daisy or a message about Justice For Daisy to the parade at 9, the tailgating at 11 and the game at 1.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
81. The email address?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:28 PM
Oct 2013

Check out this page for his email, along with others involved.

http://femanist.net/?p=212#comment-167

Turns out someone sent an email to a city council member and they were a bit smart mouthed with them.

alp227

(32,026 posts)
95. That email hasn't been read in over 10 years, because Rex Barnett left the Missouri House in 2002.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:11 AM
Oct 2013

But I'm sure the IT people at the Missouri Legislature must be wondering about all that extra traffic to a long inactive email address.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
98. not necessarily. my uncle was head of university and retired. he got to keep that email
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:16 AM
Oct 2013

account thru the school as part of his retirement package. i can see the same thing with something like this. maybe there is a reason it is still accessible. but thanks for letting us know that he is long retired. i did not know

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
73. It's worse than that
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:20 PM
Oct 2013

According to the sheriff, they not only have video, but all four boys involved confessed on film. He said it should be an open and shut case, but the prosecutor is refusing to prosecute anyone involved.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
51. All four of the committees he sits on are related to law enforcement
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:42 PM
Oct 2013

CRIMINAL LAW COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com012.htm

APPROPRIATIONS - CORRECTIONS AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com125.htm

PUBLIC SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com129.htm

MOTOR VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC REGULATIONS COMMITTEE
http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/spec01/commit01/com032.htm

I'm so glad this family finally has a chance at justice.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
150. Thank you - I didn't see that when I looked at his mo.gov pages
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:12 PM
Oct 2013

I was under the impression that his presence on the state's official site meant he was currently serving, and I posted those links without carefully reading the pages. I'm glad you pointed it out so I can avoid a mistake like that in the future.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
131. No...just a Repub
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

He's not been a state critter for more than 10 years. But I'm sure all his law enforcement connections are why his grandson, Matthew Barnett, is not being prosecuted.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
144. thanks for the correction - the OP and the stories linked that I read did NOT make that clear.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:18 PM
Oct 2013

they should have said "former representative"...

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
190. Yes, and I wish reporters and the media would do that too.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oct 2013

It really bothers me when then they say "Gov Palin" or "Gov Romney" instead of "former Governor..."

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
24. Well, around here it was the girl's fault. (sarcasm just in case you didn't know)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:42 PM
Oct 2013

They were drinking afterall. And they snuck out of the house. So it was all their fault. If they hadn't done that then nothing would have happened.

GentryDixon

(2,952 posts)
26. This story is a bit close to my heart.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

My screen name comes from the county (Gentry) Mrs. Coleman moved from and fled back to after this terrible crime.

In doing my genealogy I found my relatives lived in Gentry County in the 1830-1920 time frame. I have been to the Library in Albany, Gentry County 3 times in the last 6 years. One trip to visit the Library I spent in a motel in Marysville, Nodaway County. It is a very lovely, rural area. It's too bad a privileged few can taint the area, but then again, Nodaway County is where Mary J Stennitt was murdered for her baby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbie_Jo_Stinnett

I hope these predators are brought to justice.



xmas74

(29,674 posts)
31. The little bastard rapist is running around my town.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:05 PM
Oct 2013

He attends college in my town.

I'm pretty angry, knowing that he's a free man running the streets here.

MelissainKC

(11 posts)
29. Maryville has a long history of grotesque acts.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oct 2013

Raymond Gunn (January 11, 1904 – January 12, 1931) was an African American killed by a mob in Maryville, Missouri, United States, after he confessed to killing and attempting to rape a white school teacher.
The case received massive national publicity because it occurred outside the Southern "lynch belt", because of its brazen and planned nature, and because the county sheriff did not activate National Guard troops that had been specifically deployed to prevent the lynching.
The case was frequently invoked in the unsuccessful attempt to pass the Wagner-Costigan Act during the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt, which would have made it a federal crime for law enforcement officials to refuse to try to prevent a lynching.

VA_Jill

(9,979 posts)
45. Normally I'm not a fan of vigilante justice....
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

However, this is a case that DEMANDS it. To begin with, a 14 year old girl cannot legally consent, and that's just for starters. This guy is a complete schitthead in so many ways I can't even begin to count them. He deserves whatever he gets. I hope it's nasty, I hope it's ugly, and I hope it's real soon. Go Anonymous!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
50. At 14 in MO she cannot consent
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:41 PM
Oct 2013

With a BAC over .08 she cannot consent.

It doesn't matter if she begged for it, she couldn't consent. (And she didn't consent-the evidence of vaginal tearing is proof.)

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
99. Calimary was asking about a private citizen's info, not an elected official. That was all I was
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:43 AM
Oct 2013

referring to. I imagine it would be OK to post info on any public figure, though who is a "public figure" could be in dispute.

I can never remember where to find the TOS, but I guess I ought to review it.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
105. Ah, I see. As you can see, I wasn't really following this thread. I just happened to
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:15 AM
Oct 2013

notice, when scanning the thread,the request for contact info for what I thought was a private citizen. Since I had just read that OP about not posting that sort of info, I just thought I'd mention it.

I'm always jumping between 20 different tabs open and am generally multitasking. You know what they say, multi-taskers do a lot of things, not necessarily well.

So, I never ended up getting back to reading this thread until I saw your response to me. Sorry for the confusion! What a horrible story. I wonder what Anonymous is planning.

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
53. This brings to mind the story of Ken Rex McElroy, which I saw on 60 Minutes.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:58 PM
Oct 2013

Ken Rex McElroy (June 1, 1934 – July 10, 1981) was a resident of Nodaway County, Missouri, near the town of Skidmore. Known as "the town bully",[1] his unsolved murder became the focus of international attention. Over the course of his life McElroy was accused of dozens of felonies, including assault, child molestation, rape, arson, hog and cattle rustling, and burglary.[2]

In all, he was indicted 21 times, but escaped conviction each time, except for the last.[2][3] In 1981, McElroy was convicted of shooting and seriously injuring the town's 70-year-old grocer, Ernest "Bo" Bowenkamp, the previous year.[1] McElroy successfully appealed the conviction and was released on bond, after which he engaged in an ongoing harassment campaign against Bowenkamp, the town's Church of Christ minister, and others who were sympathetic to Bowenkamp. He appeared in a local bar, the D&G Tavern, armed with an M1 Garand rifle and bayonet, and later threatened to kill Bowenkamp.[1][3] The next day, McElroy was shot to death in broad daylight as he sat with his wife Trena in his pickup truck on Skidmore's main street.[2] He was struck by bullets from at least two different firearms, in front of a crowd of people estimated as between 30 and 46.[1] To date, no one has been charged in connection with McElroy's death.[1]
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
75. In Broad Daylight
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:24 PM
Oct 2013

is the name of the book about McElroy.

I knew someone from Skidmore. We were all drinking one night and they admitted they knew who did it. He muttered a name, which I recognized from the book.

No, I'm not going to say the name. I don't know if he really knew or not. He probably did but I wouldn't betray him.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
54. Just no words for those survivors and their families.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:01 PM
Oct 2013

Just so hard to fathom the brutality. Even though I have seen it up close and in person. There is something grossly wrong with the way we are socializing men in this society.

Thank you Anonymous.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
180. Its not all men who are socialized for rape
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

I would guess 99.9% of rapes perpetrated by young men, where raised in a conservative house in which dad "wore the pants" and mom "made dinner". I was raised correctly and would never ever take advantage of a drunk girl or even think about doing anything without 100% of her sober consent and I think the majority of men are the same.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
56. He reminds me of that creep Alex Kelly
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:27 PM
Oct 2013

The big difference of course was Kelly's parents aided and abetted his escape from justice, which did eventually happen, but this criminal goes around acting like nothing happened and is protected by an entire town.

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
57. This is the sickest "teenage football star gets away with rape" story I've heard yet
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:46 PM
Oct 2013

It's got everything - dropped charges because of "connections", excessive victim-blaming, reckless endangerment, arson. I hope this jackass gets what's coming to him. Go get 'em, Anonymous!

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
60. If anonymous is monitoring this post...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:42 PM
Oct 2013

State of MO designs most of their own computer systems, which means they are not very secure and buggy.
Just thought you might want to know.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
164. Two things, she was underage AND drunk
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

there is no consent here--even if she said yes, she still could not consent.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
82. If justice can't be had by the rules of civility,
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:45 PM
Oct 2013

basic rights, and the rights granted by our constitution because the rule of civility and lawful process has been circumvented for the enrichment or protection of an affluent and powerful few....

...then it's time to fight for our rights by any means possible. It's no less important than the necessity of the American Revolution or the US Civil War. Our rights, the rights of us all are at stake. If it takes peaceful protest, satiagraha, or forced transparency to serve justice, then so be it.

Let it be.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
90. Protest for Daisy.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:06 AM
Oct 2013

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, at 10:00am we will meet at the Nodaway County Courthouse in Maryville, Missouri with daisies in our hands for a peaceful protest in support of Daisy Coleman. The objective for the protest will be to get the case reopened so that justice may be served.
https://www.facebook.com/events/648396251860031/

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
103. Sick! Absolutely sick!
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:41 AM
Oct 2013

Were it not for Anonymous, we wouldn't even be aware of these scandals. The regular media aren't exactly vigilant in this regard. They send a great message. I guess our daughters don't count, especially when the perps are "favored." As a father, I happen to have two.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
114. people speaking up. yes, last night i read a lot of those. i would like to be a fly on the wall
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 08:53 AM
Oct 2013

of that business.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
123. They've disabled the the "Talk to Us" page of their own website. In guess having rapists ....
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

of children in the family and as waiters is something they don't want to talk about.

http://agrestaurant.com/

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
111. Careful. About half of what was on the web about Steubenville turned out to be wrong
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 08:33 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Just to keep that in mind.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
112. bullshit. i do not know what you were reading about steubenville, but i did not see that at all. nt
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 08:50 AM
Oct 2013
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
139. Try this piece from the New Yorker:
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:46 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/08/05/130805fa_fact_levy

TRIAL BY TWITTER

After high-school football stars were accused of rape, online vigilantes demanded that justice be served. Was it?
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
155. As the article points out, there was a lot of shit flung around Steubenville.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:46 PM
Oct 2013

A lot of wild claims were made, especially by the woman who published Prinnified. Some of them were true. Some were not. But they were all pretty much gobbled up whole by a lot of people, including right here on this board.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
173. "Wild claims" aside . . .
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

. . . Nothing in the article changes the fundamental fact that those boys had sex with the girl when they knew damned well she was in no position to be able to give or withhold consent. They raped her, pure and simple.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
113. and it got prosecuters and others taking another look so at the very least it allowed to sort the
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 08:52 AM
Oct 2013

wrong and the contemptible. instead of ignoring it all. when justice is not served, ignored, blatantly denied, then sloppy is going to happen. tough fuckin shit. they lost all rights to consideration

ismnotwasm

(41,986 posts)
147. Really. That's what you got out of that entire situation. Huh.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

What a sad POV.


As far as I'm concerned, anonymous can out these puke rapists full time

libdude

(136 posts)
116. Credit to
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:15 AM
Oct 2013

Anonymous for their efforts. They made a difference in the Stubenville, OH rape case after local authorities, school officials and many in the community attempted to turn their backs on justice for the victim. The focus by the hacktivist group and the larger public put a great deal of pressure on the locals and at the State level, to the point that Mike Dewine, Ohio Attorney General was pushed to investigate and impanel a Grand Jury. This is still in progress. The corrupt football coach is under scrutiny for having knowledge of the rape and failing to report it as required by law. Oddly enough, t
he school board just gave him a new contract, just demonstrates their craven disregard for the rights of others. The two convicted rapists are enjoying the accommodations of the state prison system.
Keep up the pressure on this latest example of injustice.

 

bmn

(10 posts)
121. Anonymous
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
Oct 2013

Hey guys, casual lurker and "real" anon here. Just posting to clear up the misconception that Anonymous is some coherent group of elite freedom fighting hacktivist vigilantes. They're more diverse in opinion and experience than any other online community, and any person or persons can be Anonymous. In fact, those that pretend to be internet superheroes are usually frowned upon by the general population. Want to join Anonymous? Go to any chan (4chan, 7chan, 420chan, etc.) and make a post without filling in the name field. Congrats, you are now Anonymous.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
128. Police blotter report. Why is this guy allowed to attend a university?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:21 AM
Oct 2013

Dec. 11
Matthew B. Barnett, 17, Maryville, Mo., was arrested for driving while intoxicated, failure to drive on right half of roadway, and person less than 18 possessing cigarettes.

http://www.nwmissourinews.com/news/police_blotter/article_b9e20986-3bc9-11e1-bc34-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area (correct blotter)

Just had a conversation with the police in Maryville and was told there is no info available. When asked what my interest was, I was told by this deputy (female) that MB is not a rapist, and she said quote "actually I know the truth". When I asked for her name, she hung up. Her name is Christy Forney. 660-562-3209. It would be nice if we could find out why there was no record, yet was released originally on police blotter from the city of Maryville. I think we know why. Also why a rep of police would feel it appropriate to volunteer her opinion, in a snide tone of voice no less.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
129. i guess she knows the truth he isnt a rapist, like she knows the truth he didnt drink and drive,
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:58 AM
Oct 2013

cause there is no record, it must mean it is the truth....

interesting work wc. thank you for this information. i would like to hear more from this woman.

WCLinolVir

(951 posts)
132. Working on it! SI is going to be pissed-no chores done yet.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

Have not checked thoroughly, but looks like there is no report on copy of blotter available off of Maryville city site. But the copy originally sent to nwmissourinews.com, in their Jan 2012 police blotter post, it is there. Have already asked for copies. I can only pray I get a copy of original blotter.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
133. There were TWO rapes that night. What about the other guy?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:51 AM
Oct 2013

Barnett's getting all the scrutiny but there were two crimes committed that night.

Whose the other guy?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
136. So there should be some focus on three suspects
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:22 PM
Oct 2013

The other girl is just as deserving of justice as Daisy.

Horrific story.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
137. yes. the one male we are not hearing much about is 15, the other two 17 or 18 but, i
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

think 17 from what i hear. they are keep the 15 name quiet along with 13 yr old girl. might have seen her name once. the 13 yr old made it back into the house. the other was left on the lawn. i heard one acct that matt would not let daisy up and into house. but... all that has to be sorted and not really the publics job. i only see my role yelling loud, and abusively and aggressively enough to get a relook.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
151. If you want to do something for Justice and these two girls, here's a phone number to call.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

Try this guy, the one on the right:



There is a rumor that he is the Attorney General. (202) 514-2001

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
156. Adults Sweeping The Rape Of Young Teenage Girls To Protect Football Players Is Despicable
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:53 PM
Oct 2013

Thank you so much Anonymous, I'm glad we have super smart wonks working for justice.

These scumbags, including the enablers who swept this under the rug. should be punished harshly.

Keep on keeping on Anonymous - who, according to them, was the reason for Karl Rove's meltdown when Fox News called Ohio for Obama last November.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
167. not only Steubenville, Rehtaeh Parsons and Audrie Pott, two girls in Nova Scotia, Ca., suicide
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

not only Steubenville, but Rehtaeh Parsons and Audrie Pott, two teen girls in Nova Scotia and California who killed themselves

and others. texas. conneticut.

because too much a norm

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
182. the last photo of all the guys gigglin',
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:26 PM
Oct 2013

what would be the joke in them all raising bended knee like that?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
192. Folks, remember, Rights are there to Protect People We Don't Like. Even nasty vile despicable people
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:25 PM
Oct 2013

The right to free speech is to protect the speech of people we don't like and revile, because if we don't then others who don't like our speech will deny the right to us.

The right to a fair trial and due process and protection from vigilantism is to protect people we don't like (people who often actually have committed heinous crimes). If we don't protect them, then nobody will protect us and any of us could be accused of a trumped up crime and harmed, injured or killed by vigilantes.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
196. the thing is... the folks you are lecturing are merely exercising their right to speech.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 07:31 PM
Oct 2013

the vigilantism is not happening to matt and crew. the vigilantism happened when a girl was raped and her mother harassed out of town.

i do not get why you are lecturing people in the thread exercising our right to speech.

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