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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 01:05 AM Mar 2012

A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings---"His audience is a myth. He is a paper tiger."


Cenk Uygur Host of The Young Turks
A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings

How many listeners does Rush Limbaugh have? Well, in the press there are only two numbers you'll ever see -- 20 million or 15 million. Those are large numbers, so that is why Limbaugh is taken seriously and is believed to be influential.

...............

But one thing is for sure -- he's hurt, dog! That's why we see the unprecedented apology from him on Sandra Fluke. When this controversy first broke, I predicted on our show that more advertisers would drop him (at the time, only two had). Advertisers are much more likely to drop a controversial guy if his numbers are already down. They'll ride it out if he's still delivering the goods. This is the same thing that happened to Imus. His ratings were miserable already, so advertisers didn't have enough incentive to stick with him when trouble arose.

So, Rush is in big trouble now as more and more advertisers peel off. He's in a tail spin. Why else would you triple down on the "slut" comments from Wednesday to Friday and then issue an apology on Saturday? He has over-reached (in his offensive comments) and undelivered (in his ratings). That's a lethal combo.

But Rush can easily prove me wrong. So, I'm issuing a challenge to him -- show us your ratings. He won't do it because he's embarrassed by them. He has never produced evidence of his ratings and he certainly won't do it now. In fact, I'll make a Mitt Romney like wager. I'll give him $10,000 if he can show us his 20 million listeners.

THE REST!!!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/rush-limbaugh-ratings_b_1320144.html
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A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings---"His audience is a myth. He is a paper tiger." (Original Post) kpete Mar 2012 OP
Pretty compelling logic Richardo Mar 2012 #1
I heard years ago, Rincewind Mar 2012 #2
And if Clear Channel/Bain forces it's affiliates to run the show.... TalkingDog Mar 2012 #7
Cenk has $10,000 to gamble on a bet??? WoW! n/t Vadem Mar 2012 #3
Romney will back it up, if rush keeps supporting frothy. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #8
Cenk is a smart guy and knows he is safe in this bet madokie Mar 2012 #10
Every potential listener in the markets carrying Rush are counted as listeners. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Thinkingabout Mar 2012 #5
A quick looksee found he lost a third of his audience... TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #6
Huge Cenk fan here longship Mar 2012 #9
He is on during the middle of the day when most folks exboyfil Mar 2012 #11
. lunatica Mar 2012 #12

Rincewind

(1,203 posts)
2. I heard years ago,
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 01:24 AM
Mar 2012

I can't remember where, that Pigboy's ratings are based on listeners times hours. In other words, one million listeners per hour, times 15 hours of his program per week equals 15 million listeners. Since a lot of his listeners listen to all three hours, every day his program is on, his total audience is much smaller than his "ratings" would indicate.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
7. And if Clear Channel/Bain forces it's affiliates to run the show....
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 04:57 AM
Mar 2012

there's nothing to say anybody is listening at all.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. Cenk is a smart guy and knows he is safe in this bet
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 07:36 AM
Mar 2012

I don't do much tv but the few times I've watched him I was/am impressed.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
4. Every potential listener in the markets carrying Rush are counted as listeners.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 01:25 AM
Mar 2012

The metric used is not in any way accurate or even based in reality.

Response to kpete (Original post)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. A quick looksee found he lost a third of his audience...
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 02:25 AM
Mar 2012

in the period from October '10 to May '11. That still left him as #1 on the radio with a 3 share according to Arbitron. Hannity was #2, but his numbers went down by 28% in that same period.

Notice that time period-- right around the election of '10 he lost a boatload of listeners, and it's tough to tell if he regained any due to Obama Derangement Syndrome, or lost even more because he's an asshole on the wrong side of history.

Until the next public Arbitron comment, anyway. Arbitron has its flaws, but is still the best way to judge radio audiences. It costs big bucks to get those numbers, though, and not everyone who wants to can get them. They may come out with some public numbers again sometime soon.

You could try signing up for their free service at www.arbitron.com and see how much you get, just like Cenk could've. But, although Cenk probably has access to the numbers already, anyone looking at them has to agree not to repeat them.



longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Huge Cenk fan here
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 07:33 AM
Mar 2012

Is Cenk great? "Of COURRRSE!"

That guy is as entertaining and insightful as any of our friends in the media. He can put on a good rage one minute and get serious and calm the next. All this in an apparently unscripted format. He's quite the artist.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
11. He is on during the middle of the day when most folks
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 07:57 AM
Mar 2012

have jobs that don't allow them to listen to radio. I could not imagine what my employer would say if I was listening to anything while I worked even music. We are not allowed to have headphones to listen to music. My office is pretty typical.

If you work with your mind, trying to listen to a broadcast and devote full attention to your work is very difficult (really impossible for most). Even individuals with technical trades should really be focussing on their task and not trying not to follow a conversation.

I got to suspect his biggest listeners are those who drive a significant amount of time for their occupation like truck drivers. I can't think he would be particularly popular with mail carriers. I know of some who catch him at lunch.

Retirees? College students? What other demographics?

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