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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHello, DU darlings! Your Friday Afternoon Challenge returns with "The Art of the Altarpiece, II"
Yes, you knew there would be another wonderful stroll through the worlds greatest church art, didnt you? Heres your newest grouping!
Cheating, of course, is a no-no here...
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Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)Last is fascinating, dying to know what it depicts.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)however, I agree, it's a bit odd, but it is from Western Europe...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Shepherds arriving to adore the Christ child. The ones up on the hill look disappointed they couldn't take the afternoon off, though.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But the horn that guy has makes me think it might not be.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)They style is familiar, but the artist's name escapes me. I feel like I should know that one.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)kentuck
(111,111 posts)and one looks like the landscape of El Greco?
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)But there ARE 7 artists involved in these 6 works...hmm...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And I only just now noticed that it has Dürer's name at the bottom, or it would have been faster.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pretty bad, too...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The detail...
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Am I rusty! Ashamed! Giotto...all the blue in the chapel. Damn, I'm so old I was around when he painted it, but I can't remember the name of the chapel.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Four fragments of a large Renaissance painting that was "butchered" for the art market over 200 years ago have been reunited for the first time.
By Stephen Adams, Arts Correspondent
6:00AM GMT 07 Feb 2009
Only three pieces from Paolo Veronese's 16th century masterpiece the Petrobelli Altarpiece were thought to have survived.
The 18ft-high canvas was cut up in 1788 to be "sold just like meat in a butcher's shop", as one contemporary art dealer put it.
But in a 'Eureka!' moment Xavier Salomon, curator of the Dulwich Picture Gallery in south London, identified the fourth part after visiting the Blanton Museum of Art in Texas.
When he starting work on a project to bring the three pieces together, he wondered if the small Veronese he had seen there, called 'Head of an Angel', was the missing piece of the jigsaw. Tests later proved it was the central piece - the head being that of St Michael. The original showed him standing in triumph over Satan.
Now the four parts have been reunited for an exhibition at Dulwich Picture Gallery....
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/4538663/Fragments-of-butchered-Renaissance-masterpiece-reunited-for-first-time.html
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Just doing broad searches on altarpieces.
progressoid
(50,021 posts)CTyankee
(63,926 posts)LOVE Monty Python! They WERE well educated guys...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/history-of-art/mannerist-painting.htm
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I found it only because I took a few moments to study the image and to note the central detail. In my searches for the painting, I stumbled across an image of just the central detail--which I would have missed if I hadn't looked closely at it in advance.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The detail is from the center panel of the triptych.
The Portinari Altarpiece or Portinari Triptych (c. 1475) is an oil on wood triptych painting by the Flemish painter Hugo van der Goes representing the Adoration of the shepherds. It measures 253 x 304 cm, and is now in the Galleria degli Uffizi in Florence, Italy.
History
The work was commissioned for the church of the hospital of Santa Maria Nuova in Florence by the Italian banker Tommaso Portinari, a descendent of the hospital's founder. Portinari lived for more than forty years in Bruges as a representative for the Medici family's bank. Portinari himself is depicted on the left panel with his two sons Antonio and Pigello; his wife Maria di Francesco Baroncelli is shown on the right panel with their daughter Margarita. All, except Pigello, are accompanied by their patron saints: Saint Thomas (with the spear), Saint Anthony (with the bell), Mary Magdalen (with the pot of ointment) and Saint Margaret (with the book and the dragon).
Description
In the central panel, three shepherds fall to their knees before the child Jesus. Van der Goes painted these rustic characters very realistically. Kneeling angels surround the Virgin and the Child, who is not in a crib but lies on the ground surrounded by an aureole of golden rays. This unusual representation of the adoration of Jesus is probably based on one of the visions of Saint Bridget of Sweden.
In the background, van der Goes painted scenes related to the main subject: on the left panel, Joseph and Mary on the road to Bethlehem; on the central panel (to the right), the shepherds visited by the angel; on the right panel, the Three Magi on the road to Bethlehem.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portinari_Altarpiece
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)and there are some seriously oddball takes on this subject out there. Surprising.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Or, never mind...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But I wasn't sure that it was just a detail, and had no idea the work is a triptych. It reminded me of Domenico Ghirlandaio, but it wasn't among his works. So I searched on altarpieces and shepherds with no luck, then banged my forehead and searched specifically on "Adoration of the Shepherds."
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)who I love and revere always!
I'm glad I made you work for this! More appreciation for art!
Isn't it wonderful?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But I'm actually learning about art and art history through your Challenges, and having a lot of fun, travel and adventure along the way. Thanks for that!
Even if I do end up a little frazzled by the end of each challenge...
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)using a few hints in the artwork! There are two images but 3 artists. Why is that?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:28 PM - Edit history (1)
However, the focal point of this amazing space was a masterpiece executed by the most accomplished Florentine painter of the day, Fra Filippo Lippi's Adoration of the Christ Child, completed between 1459-60. This painting is sometimes referred to as The Madonna in the Forest. This painting is seen as an illustration of the debate between Orthodox and Western Churches which took place at the Council of Florence in 1439, in which Cosimo de' Medici took part, hosting the travelling Byzantine Emperor John VIII Palaiologos.
It was the jewel at the centre of the amazing private chapel - something that can not be fully appreciated with the rather lacklustre copy in its place today and the view tourists are forced to traverse the room in. Knowing the original was one of the most unique and accomplished works of the early Renaissance, and now resides many miles away in Berlin, tells a poignant tale about the ebb and flow of great fortunes and how art seems to be intrinsically linked to this.
The original location of Lippi's master work, now occupied by a less inspiring copy. Image: WGA
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http://www.3pipe.net/2010/12/filippo-lippi-adoration.html
http://www-hki.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/research/painting/lippi.html
Poster image:
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)The painting even went to the National Gallery of Art in Washington for a while before being returned to Berlin. Or is there something else I'm missing?
You're not making this easy...
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Are you looking for the name of the artist who did the Adoration copy that hangs in the Medici chapel in Florence? That I'm not sure about, though I looked for that detail at one point in researching the history.
I thought your mention of the "extra" artist involved in these last two works referred to Boito's involvement in #3. Wrong again, I see.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)different, but this fresco is a Gozzoli masterpiece.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I looked at a lot of info on the painting and nothing indicated any collaboration on its creation or after the fact.
My reply here is to kick one more time for those who may have missed these works or the Challenge answers.
Thanks again, CTyankee, for another wonderful Challenge.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)There are some differences from the original, the main one being the addition of the gold garland that serves as a frame.
http://www.palazzo-medici.it/mediateca/en/Scheda_Adorazione_del_Bambino,_di_Bottega_di_Filippo_Lippi&id_cronologia_contenuto=2
broiles
(1,370 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Wiki (translated from Italian):
History
The important commission to the Florentine sculptor was probably decided after seeing the result of the Crucified bronze ( 1 443 - 1447 ), now placed above the altar originally thought but perhaps for the choir.
Thanks to the generous donation of the Paduan citizen Francesco del Tile, dated 3 April 1446 , could be designed a complex never seen before, mostly in the expensive bronze with the technique of lost wax .
The progress of the work is well documented by the numerous archives. Work began in the second half of 1446, in May of the ' following year the individual pieces had already been merged. At least five aides participated in the company: Urbano da Cortona, Giovanni da Pisa, Antonio Chellini, Francesco Valente's and the painter Niccolò da Pizzolo .
The intention of the commissioners was that the work was finished in time for the feast of St. Anthony of Padua on 13 June 1450 , but in reality even after the departure of Padua by Donatello ( 1453 ) are recorded adjustments until 1477 . Just finished the altar had to offer a vision imposing, with the colorfulness and the dazzling effect of gilding and silvering. The decorative elements were set in rich variations, ranging from the small figures of the reliefs, the fullness plastic works in the round, the poses more composed in the most wildly excited.
With the restructuring of the presbytery in 1591 , the altar was dismantled and the various works divided into several points of the basilica. In the new Baroque altar were reused only a few statues by Donatello, especially at the crown. Only in 1895 was reassembled by Camillo Boito , who, however, created an imaginative and accommodation different from the original composition.
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http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altare_di_Sant'Antonio_da_Padova
treestar
(82,383 posts)We did a unit on it in "humanities" in our high school. And some studying of Spanish painters along with studies of Spanish history.
But my guesses would be like - maybe Michaelangelo for the first one?
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)you'll notice it doesn't look very "Italian"...