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Ya Know... Non-Liberals Talking About The "Conscience" OF A Liberal... Should STFU... (Original Post) WillyT Sep 2013 OP
I agree! samplegirl Sep 2013 #1
Abso-phucking-lutely...knr joeybee12 Sep 2013 #2
I smelled em too, But you had the Perspicacity ( a word I love to use ) orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #3
No way! That thread is gold! Rex Sep 2013 #4
I've been warching that Melt Down. bvar22 Sep 2013 #6
They are on the F team by now. Rex Sep 2013 #7
Did I miss a good thread? cui bono Sep 2013 #92
The blog owner's defintion of Liberal is someone who LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #94
Ohhh yeah! Rex Sep 2013 #99
That OP is... Interesting. NealK Sep 2013 #113
And so totally full of shit. blackspade Sep 2013 #120
right. because liberals never talk about Dem centrists here. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #5
And Just Where.. Does A "Centrist" Stand ??? WillyT Sep 2013 #18
it gets a little nuanced. sorry. can't fill out a liberal purity chart with only gold stars Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #23
No, No, No... I Am In Earnest Here... WillyT Sep 2013 #28
DEAD armadillos. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #38
And yellow stripes. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #81
A centrist Democrat was Samm Nunn before he became a orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #52
Yellow stripes, dead armidillos Autumn Sep 2013 #73
My 2 cents...... 7962 Sep 2013 #131
Liberal purity chart? Liberal orthodoxy? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #30
nice. way to attack. just as my original point stated. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #48
Good for you, you donated. So what? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #58
K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #68
Plus one! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #121
+1. Well put. Marr Sep 2013 #151
Sorry but supporting President Obama does not make you a liberal. A Simple Game Sep 2013 #72
"going gets tough" quakerboy Sep 2013 #88
OMG!! This!!! It is getting out of control here. nt LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #37
And you have a Right to be called on it ... orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #47
You would know us in the wild because we would be the most abundant animal in the wild, bluestate10 Sep 2013 #77
... Phlem Sep 2013 #100
Actually there was a time when DLCers were laughed off the site. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #39
I was actually kind of shocked when I first saw that used here. JoeyT Sep 2013 #112
FFS Phlem Sep 2013 #70
The only mischaracterization is calling them centrists. frustrated_lefty Sep 2013 #135
The People's View sides with the Police State Octafish Sep 2013 #8
Lol, that site is an extremist site that is populated by the right wing of the Dem Party sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #12
No it is a purposely provocative blog trolling for advertising dollars. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #16
I have a little knowledge of the 'founder' of the site. You may be right, but put it this sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #21
Either that or he's a form of the "used to be messed up on booze, then messed up on drugs,... JHB Sep 2013 #46
Lol, well the minute you see the 'purity troll' language you KNOW you are dealing with sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #50
"I belong to the Reality Based Community" NealK Sep 2013 #114
Someone actually tried using "peace purists" as a slur here on DU recently MNBrewer Sep 2013 #132
Sickening. A bloody line from the Gulf of Tonkin to the Persian Gulf. Octafish Sep 2013 #146
That bothers me, too. Octafish Sep 2013 #34
LOL treestar Sep 2013 #142
Right you are. Octafish Sep 2013 #145
In my mind, wanting to jail someone who pulled the curtain Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #147
Indeed. marmar Sep 2013 #9
You know.... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #10
Agreed gopiscrap Sep 2013 #11
Huge K&R LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #13
This thread is yet another insider ball game about some context not in evidence. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #14
+1 n/t Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #41
Then perhaps fake liberals shouldn't make posts bashing LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #95
+1 nashville_brook Sep 2013 #110
+2 NealK Sep 2013 #115
+3 Enthusiast Sep 2013 #122
This^^^^ stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #150
If they do, then reply there, don't start a bogus thread with no context elsewhere. Reply in context Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #154
+1 treestar Sep 2013 #143
the funny part is, after the insults, they'll act all surprised when the election turn-out is low. KG Sep 2013 #15
Yes, they always have an excuse and seem to do nothing about Rex Sep 2013 #20
The 'left' is rising again, and ORGANIZING which is going to be very upsetting for the sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #24
Yep, and they'll cite it as *proof* that the left should be disregarded in the future, and Marr Sep 2013 #60
On to other news. Did you see President Obama's latest poll numbers among Democrats? bluestate10 Sep 2013 #78
Yah! for warmed over Republican ideas! LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #96
That sort of proves the point about the lack of conscience, now, doesn't it? nt treestar Sep 2013 #144
Our local disrupter/troll at it again, eh? quinnox Sep 2013 #17
Banned from DK also, which used to be far more tolerant of the 'right' wing of the Dem sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #27
Not surprised, personally I put them on ignore ages ago quinnox Sep 2013 #29
He's found some fertile ground here on DU, sadly. Which says a lot and it's not particularly sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #31
Yea, I know the faction who gets off on that kind of hatred and bashing of the left quinnox Sep 2013 #35
+1 woo me with science Sep 2013 #166
You are probably right. zeemike Sep 2013 #36
Oh yes, I do enjoy the exposure, which btw, happened on DK after months of sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #43
Ignore is your friend nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #87
If you are talking about the People's View, you are talking about Liberal Haters. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #19
"The Peoples View" is BUSTED. bvar22 Sep 2013 #22
These people ... JEFF9K Sep 2013 #25
Then they'll just go back to telling liberals what they think Warpy Sep 2013 #26
Hilarious ProSense Sep 2013 #32
Is that relevant to this thread in any way?? Maybe I'm just tired, but I fail to see sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #40
It has everything to do with my point. ProSense Sep 2013 #42
I'm not complaining about your posting the link, I'm just asking why it is relevant to sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #44
It's relevant to my point. ProSense Sep 2013 #49
I don't know what your point is, seriously? sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #51
In another moment down went Alice after it, never once considering rug Sep 2013 #56
I can't help you with your thought process. ProSense Sep 2013 #57
really!?!?!?! Phlem Sep 2013 #79
You mean you can't help her with YOUR thought process. cui bono Sep 2013 #93
Someone needs to write a better algorithm. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #103
Lol! NealK Sep 2013 #117
Just the usual self promotion/misdirection/spam, I assume. /nt Marr Sep 2013 #153
I would say that you're assuming correctly. n/t NealK Sep 2013 #156
Huh? NealK Sep 2013 #116
DU Rec... SixString Sep 2013 #33
I don't know what the "conscience" of a liberal is, blue neen Sep 2013 #45
By the way, isn't "Consience of a Liberal" the title of a book by someone? JHB Sep 2013 #53
Spandan has also tossed under Kuttner, Baker, and Stiglitz. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #59
That's ok. I don't care what he allows on his bus. JHB Sep 2013 #62
That's OK, too. Others do. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #89
What "non-liberals?" Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #54
People's view.net......THAT non-liberal DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #80
The OP read "non-liberalS." Plural. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #84
Ok then, michigandem, who constantly links to this craptastic blog LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #97
Whatever... Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #101
And guess who recced that craptastic OP? NealK Sep 2013 #118
Gawd I'm good. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #127
Wow! LOTS of overlap MNBrewer Sep 2013 #133
Ummm no offence but I've never tired of speakling to the lack of conscience of ultra consrvatives... marble falls Sep 2013 #55
Who is writing the "Purity" Test for all this wannabe Purging ??? nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #61
It's ambiguous your right . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #63
you are so correct Cryptoad Sep 2013 #66
the conscience of a "centrist" is bought and paid for yurbud Sep 2013 #64
Smoke & mirrors orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #69
K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #65
Personally i would argue that even liberals should STFU about the "Conscience" of a Liberal as well Bodhi BloodWave Sep 2013 #67
Funny, such praise seems to be heaped on Non-Liberals here on DU. baldguy Sep 2013 #71
Another Lie LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #98
Um....when you declare that we "need Rand Paul" then yeah....you msanthrope Sep 2013 #161
Your posts have no content and exist only for the purpose of insulting others. Maedhros Sep 2013 #102
K&R forestpath Sep 2013 #74
I normally ignore your OPs (without putting you on ignore). But I dropped in to this one bluestate10 Sep 2013 #75
I Do Not Know... But Thanks For The Kick !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #76
Ok, you got me. nt bluestate10 Sep 2013 #86
... SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #90
You clearly do not understand "far Left" as a political concept. Maedhros Sep 2013 #104
Plus One! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #123
Thank you. n/t QC Sep 2013 #126
Nailed it. ctsnowman Sep 2013 #130
Liberals don't use war as a first resrt grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #106
1. LWolf Sep 2013 #168
and, especially the Neo-Liberal kind! Agony Sep 2013 #82
Spamden and The Peoples Spew? bunnies Sep 2013 #83
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Sep 2013 #85
You'll know them by really stupid crap they say. 99Forever Sep 2013 #91
Kick grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #107
and that goes for those who don't actually HAVE a conscience, or a brain, or heart, or soul. niyad Sep 2013 #108
Thank you. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #109
Completely psychopathic to take over applegrove Sep 2013 #111
Exactly blackspade Sep 2013 #119
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #124
knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #125
Glad I never have to deal with the purity/ostracization drama outside the Democratic party. great white snark Sep 2013 #128
This whole OP reads like a meeting of the Heathers. sufrommich Sep 2013 #129
You gatta a complaint abiout this thread? 99Forever Sep 2013 #134
I don't really care if you think I'm worthy of the Democratic party. sufrommich Sep 2013 #139
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #140
My my...that 'Heathers' meme sure does pop up at strange times. Rex Sep 2013 #136
In reference to Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #148
Obviously it is obvious. Rex Sep 2013 #155
It certainly is Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #157
Well it fits the narrative for what you want so I guess so. Rex Sep 2013 #159
Again... Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #160
Yup. If the shoe fits... SidDithers Sep 2013 #165
yeah nice invocation of heathers bobduca Sep 2013 #141
In actual fact, the OP this is commenting from some blog, the 'DUer' who posts Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #149
Shhhh... Blanks Sep 2013 #158
So true. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #137
I can't say it any better. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #138
libertarian must be too cheap to have their own forum stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #152
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #162
And yet more "peoplesvoice" crapola being posted by that member MNBrewer Sep 2013 #163
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #164
kick QC Sep 2013 #167
How much more Peoplesview sockpuppetry is DU going to have to put up with? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #169
K&R for pissing off all the RIGHT people! Rex Sep 2013 #170
KICK! QC Sep 2013 #171
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. I smelled em too, But you had the Perspicacity ( a word I love to use )
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:27 PM
Sep 2013

to call em on it . + 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. No way! That thread is gold!
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:28 PM
Sep 2013

Right now I am being given links to things that don't say what are written in the content area! I've never seen liberal bashers flop all over themselves so darn hard! It must be so sad to feel that kind of self loathing.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
6. I've been warching that Melt Down.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:37 PM
Sep 2013

They look like the Keystone Kops trying to stop 100 leaks in the dam.
Pretty funny really.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. They are on the F team by now.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:38 PM
Sep 2013

The CYA is almost as much a work of art as the WH playing CYA over the NSA spying on all our naughty bits.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
92. Did I miss a good thread?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:35 PM
Sep 2013

Damn work and stuff...


EDIT: Found it! Not posting in that thread so I won't kick it.

"the most effective liberal to have entered the White House in nearly a century"

Who the fuck are they talking about??? I know it can't be Obama.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
94. The blog owner's defintion of Liberal is someone who
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:03 PM
Sep 2013

backs warmed over Republican ideas created by the Heritage Foundation

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
5. right. because liberals never talk about Dem centrists here.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:30 PM
Sep 2013

ever. they never mischaracterize them. ever.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
18. And Just Where.. Does A "Centrist" Stand ???
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
Sep 2013

And how would we know one... in the wild?

Or... on a discussion board?


 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
23. it gets a little nuanced. sorry. can't fill out a liberal purity chart with only gold stars
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:53 PM
Sep 2013

some of us resent being made to feel we don't belong here just because we don't hold to a specific liberal orthodoxy on every single issue.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
28. No, No, No... I Am In Earnest Here...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:00 PM
Sep 2013

The old saw.... that the only things in the middle of the road... are Armadillos and stripes...

Is funny... but not so informative.

What I want to know is... what a Centrist IS...And how they differ from one party to another




 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
52. A centrist Democrat was Samm Nunn before he became a
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:33 PM
Sep 2013

Republican, which he voted like when he was a Democrat . A liberal Republican or centrist was Theodore Roosevelt a President that promoted liberal Democrat views, which is why the Pukers ditched him .

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
131. My 2 cents......
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:16 AM
Sep 2013

I would think a "centrist" or "moderate" would be someone who has views that are held by both the left and the right. An example may be that you are both pro-choice and pro death penalty. You support single payer health care and voter ID laws. You are a strong union supporter who also thinks we should build a fence on the border with Mexico. Plenty of examples like that.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
48. nice. way to attack. just as my original point stated.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:28 PM
Sep 2013

I not only voted for Obama twice, I donated him, and I didn't drop him like yesterday's newspaper just because the going gets tough.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
58. Good for you, you donated. So what?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:46 PM
Sep 2013

I'm talking about your position as a pro-war anti-liberal shitmonger. Your support or lack thereof of the president does not matter at all with regards to your own opinions, attitudes, and posts. You can't divest yourself of your own words, no matter how much you try to toss them into the president's mouth.

Stop using "I'm a loyal democrat!" as a shield for your shitty positions and arguments. I get enough of that from an openly fascist poster in I/P, I don't need to deal with it out here in GD.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
72. Sorry but supporting President Obama does not make you a liberal.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:31 PM
Sep 2013

Some would say when you support a President you use their title.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
88. "going gets tough"
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:18 PM
Sep 2013

What does that mean?

It sounds like what you are saying is Obama, right or wrong. No matter what he does or fails to do, Obamas your guy.

A lot of people don't feel like that. I am one of them. I care a lot more about specific accomplishments, attempts, failures than I do about any given individual. Earning my vote is not the same thing as earning my lifelong loyalty, no matter what you do.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
47. And you have a Right to be called on it ...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:26 PM
Sep 2013

just discussing . And starting a post Accusing Specifically LIBERAL people out for a lack of conscience, is being Judgmental and imposing what is moral, so spare me the sob story .

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
77. You would know us in the wild because we would be the most abundant animal in the wild,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Sep 2013

because we have the sense to know who are our true predators.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
39. Actually there was a time when DLCers were laughed off the site.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:14 PM
Sep 2013

Hardly anyone here but trolls took right-wing memes like "hate-America-first" seriously.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
112. I was actually kind of shocked when I first saw that used here.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 01:52 AM
Sep 2013

The only time I'd ever heard "Blame America First" was from the craziest and nastiest of the right wingers.

I just googled it to see who uses it, and sure enough it's the nastiest of the right wingers: Samantha Power (Brietbart.com), Michael Barone (Real Clear Politics), Michelle Malkin, and assorted other first class assholes.

It's a phrase that says a great deal more about the person shrieking it than it does about whoever they're screaming at.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
70. FFS
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:27 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:19 PM - Edit history (1)

take your pretzel talking points over to the other side. You *'s automagically assume everyone's voting R just cause we're critical of our president.

Leaps and bounds seems to be what "centrist's" (and I use that term loosely) need make their logic work.

Your the folks who help a left leaning group change and slowly push them right so no wonder you luv the President cause he's giving you what you want.

So yea, let the door hit ya on your way out.

geeze now you've gone and made me add you to my ignore list.

frustrated_lefty

(2,774 posts)
135. The only mischaracterization is calling them centrists.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:49 AM
Sep 2013

They are hypocrites whose position on any issue is determined by convenience rather than values, moral judgment or even rational thought.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Lol, that site is an extremist site that is populated by the right wing of the Dem Party
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:41 PM
Sep 2013

No one in their right mind takes anything from that site seriously. It is good though for finding out where all the lame attacks on 'the left' emanate from. Other than that, it is a joke.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. I have a little knowledge of the 'founder' of the site. You may be right, but put it this
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:51 PM
Sep 2013

way, being banned from Liberal sites isn't getting them anywhere. I am amazed they've lasted so long here. I always wondered if the 'founder' isn't a Right Winger who goes to Liberal sites like this to create dissension. He sure isn't a Liberal.

People would be better off letting that garbage sink. He thrives on the reactions he gets, but doesn't usually last this long which is a shame.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
46. Either that or he's a form of the "used to be messed up on booze, then messed up on drugs,...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:21 PM
Sep 2013

...now messed up on Jay-zus" fire-breathing converts to evangelical Christianity. Same flaws, just swapping out which way they are pointed. For a political example: David Horowitz, who flipped from one radicalism to another. Or, less radically, Chris Matthews, who will gush at whatever sends a tingle down his leg (his description, not mine) and can always be counted on to twist around by pointing over his shoulder and saying "Look! It's Bill Clinton's dick!"

Case in point: he rails at "purity trolls" with the same brook-no-dissent- fervor of... a purity troll. But then, in 2007 he was exactly the sort of "purity troll" he now complains about.

Let's just say I find no reason to value his powers of analysis even when he's on "my" side.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
50. Lol, well the minute you see the 'purity troll' language you KNOW you are dealing with
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:31 PM
Sep 2013

a Think Tank who came up with that language to trash the Left way back around 2004.

I remember well when they began using that idiotic 'language' to try to put down the Left. It is old history now, but they cling to what they probably paid big money for. Someone, someday will write about the history of the beginning of the attacks on the Left from 'within' the Dem Party.

They had a whole 'bag' of these 'epithets' to hurl around, but at this point, all their old 'language to attack the Left with' is simply a way to identify them with. 'I belong to the Reality Based Community' is another. Old, tired and failed strategy to attack the left with, so I'm not surprised to learn that the People's View is still using that old garbage long ago identified with right wing infiltrators to the Dem Party.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
132. Someone actually tried using "peace purists" as a slur here on DU recently
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:28 AM
Sep 2013

Now they've backed off and are using the tried and true "pacifist" as a slur.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
146. Sickening. A bloody line from the Gulf of Tonkin to the Persian Gulf.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:01 AM
Sep 2013

Halliburton making money all along the way and the pols that go-along get-along j'ess fine.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
142. LOL
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
Sep 2013

Yeah because disagreeing with Snowden is "siding with the police state."

And trying to smear the People's View in the hopes you can scare some people off of reading it? Really?

These tactics are despicable and prove you have no argument.

No we don't "side with a police state" because we think Snowden should face trial. Talk about your own echo chamber. There is so much wrong with your statement it would take hours to point it all out.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
145. Right you are.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:00 AM
Sep 2013

From "The People's View":



The idea that Edward Snowden has a "right to asylum" is preposterous, and centers around the even more idiotic idea that Snowden is being persecuted in the United States for political reasons. Nothing could be further from the truth. Ed Snowden is being charged with stealing and distributing classified information under the Espionage Act, and espionage is a legitimate crime in every country that signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Snowden's applications for asylum are an abuse of Article 14.

...

The reason Edward Snowden has no way out is not because it is physically daunting to get over to Latin America from Russia while also avoiding the airspace of US allies. The proper reason those allies can deny airspace to aircrafts suspected of carrying Snowden is not simply their sovereignty; it is also that they correctly recognize Snowden's claims of asylum as an abuse of Article 14 of the UNDHR, rather than a proper use of it. The reason Edward Snowden is stuck and has no way out is because his claim that he has a "right" to asylum is wholly without merit.



Except the United States commits acts of war to silence a guy who exposed unconstitutional surveillance of Americans. You, as well as "The People's View" should know that.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
147. In my mind, wanting to jail someone who pulled the curtain
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:05 AM
Sep 2013

on govt over reach is undemocratic. I don't think I am the only one.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. You know....
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:41 PM
Sep 2013

if you are against the surveillance state and willy nilly bombing of other countries you are a Putin worshipper. Makes sense, right?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
14. This thread is yet another insider ball game about some context not in evidence.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:44 PM
Sep 2013

All this internicine crap is poisoning DU.

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)
150. This^^^^
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:56 AM
Sep 2013

It's the third time this week some random has told me to stfu on DU that is Democratic Underground not libertarian Underground

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
154. If they do, then reply there, don't start a bogus thread with no context elsewhere. Reply in context
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:22 PM
Sep 2013

I replied in the bashing thread, and others that the greedy spamming blogger started. Reply in the context of the problem.

KG

(28,753 posts)
15. the funny part is, after the insults, they'll act all surprised when the election turn-out is low.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:45 PM
Sep 2013

'all you lefties stayed home on 2010!'

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. Yes, they always have an excuse and seem to do nothing about
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:49 PM
Sep 2013

any of the obvious problems in which we find ourselves. Just simple sloganeering and an agenda imo.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. The 'left' is rising again, and ORGANIZING which is going to be very upsetting for the
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:54 PM
Sep 2013

haters or the Left. I believe we needed this period to see the way things really are, and the younger generation is about to put a 'spanner in the works' of the Third Way that infiltrated the Democratic Party. I am actually excited about what is happening. It is BECAUSE of the New Left that they couldn't get their Syria War started.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
60. Yep, and they'll cite it as *proof* that the left should be disregarded in the future, and
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:57 PM
Sep 2013

the party should look to the right, or as they call it 'the center'.

Same shit every time. When corporate Dems win, it's a resounding validation of their politics. When they lose, the left is to blame for not supporting them.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
78. On to other news. Did you see President Obama's latest poll numbers among Democrats?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:47 PM
Sep 2013

There really, really aren't a lot of ultra-high conscience far Left out there. Sorry if I busted your balloon.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
17. Our local disrupter/troll at it again, eh?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:46 PM
Sep 2013

They were already banned from Du once before, it is pretty obvious why when you see the kinds of OPs they post on a regular basis. "The peoples view" is about as credible as any other crazed right winger web site around.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
27. Banned from DK also, which used to be far more tolerant of the 'right' wing of the Dem
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:57 PM
Sep 2013

Party. Even they saw the disruptive nature of this element that seems to troll Liberal Blogs creating dissension.

Best to not even comment on those threads and let them die the natural death they deserve. But they know how to egg people on I guess. I never comment or kick those threads. Best to start a counter thread and draw the action away from their disruption.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
29. Not surprised, personally I put them on ignore ages ago
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:00 PM
Sep 2013

I don't come to DU to see threads about hating on liberals and progressives. If I want to see that, I will go browse Free Republic. So when I see threads like this one referring to a trollish thread, I have to log out to see what is causing the ruckus and disruption, and sure enough, it is this "peoples view" clown again.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. He's found some fertile ground here on DU, sadly. Which says a lot and it's not particularly
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:04 PM
Sep 2013

complimentary about what has become of DU these days.

I don't come here either to see Right Wing trash about Liberals, I too could go to FR if that is what I wanted to see.

I am surprised that it hasn't been figured out yet here. Hopefully before a lot of liberals leave the site, it will be.

Trash thread is the best option for that kind of right wing trash.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
35. Yea, I know the faction who gets off on that kind of hatred and bashing of the left
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
Sep 2013

They don't exactly add much positive to the atmosphere of DU, that is for sure.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
36. You are probably right.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
Sep 2013

But it is enlightening to see them out themselves for what they are and expose their agenda and methods...at least it is for me.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
43. Oh yes, I do enjoy the exposure, which btw, happened on DK after months of
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:18 PM
Sep 2013

disruption and those who outed themselves as supporters of this Right Wing BS. It's always good to see the exposure, so in that sense it serves a purpose.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. If you are talking about the People's View, you are talking about Liberal Haters.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:48 PM
Sep 2013

I love those threads, although I wouldn't bother kicking them with any kind of response, but they are like fly paper, they bring out all the anti-left contingency which is generally not a surprise, but it's nice to see them all in one place.

They are not going to be happy with the rise of the NEW LEFT that is happening right now which will put an end to the takeover of the Democratic Party by the Right under that banner of The Third Way. They are about to become obsolete with their disastrous policies.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
25. These people ...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:55 PM
Sep 2013

... let Fox News and Rush do their thinking for them. If you can call it thinking!

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
26. Then they'll just go back to telling liberals what they think
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:55 PM
Sep 2013

'cause they heard about it from some (conservative) talking head on the radio.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
32. Hilarious
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:05 PM
Sep 2013

Liberals (despite the name calling) criticizing other liberals for hypocrisy, knee-jerk reactions and overall flawed thinking need to "STFU"?

Dripping with irony with a twinge of whining.

Oops, forgot the "blue linky"

Many members who voted for tough stance on Syria now oppose military action
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662378


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
40. Is that relevant to this thread in any way?? Maybe I'm just tired, but I fail to see
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:15 PM
Sep 2013

how your link to your own OP has anything to do with the The People's View, an extremist, Liberal hating blog that has been pretty much banned from other Liberal Sites due to the fact that they are here only to stir up dissension?

Enlighten us as to how this OP of yours has anything to do with the topic of 'disrupters'.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
42. It has everything to do with my point.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:17 PM
Sep 2013

Does that make you feel like starting a thread complaining about my posting the link?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. I'm not complaining about your posting the link, I'm just asking why it is relevant to
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:20 PM
Sep 2013

a thread about known trolls?? You do know the history of the People's View I presume? They are trolls who are not welcome on most Liberal forums. Haters of the Left and well known as such.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
56. In another moment down went Alice after it, never once considering
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:38 PM
Sep 2013

how in the world she was to get out again.”
― Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

NealK

(1,885 posts)
116. Huh?
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 03:50 AM
Sep 2013

No pun intended but you don't make much sense. So you consider yourself a Liberal? Strange but I could swear that you were part of the "Proud Members of the Reality Based Community".

And a blue linky for you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023663739#post114

blue neen

(12,328 posts)
45. I don't know what the "conscience" of a liberal is,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:21 PM
Sep 2013

or the definition of a liberal; or where a "centrist" stands, or how you would recognize a "centrist in the wild".

IMHO, however, I've always believed that liberals are open to other people's opinions and ways of thinking.
At least, that's the type of Democratic household we were raised in----that we would never tell someone with a different point of view to STFU.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
53. By the way, isn't "Consience of a Liberal" the title of a book by someone?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:35 PM
Sep 2013

Guys like this are why I say the "Krugman seat" on "the bus" is like a Ferris wheel: it regularly rotates between "on the bus" and "under the bus" depending on whether a given column or blog post focuses on an administration plan or action, or if it focuses on Republican (**cough**) policy shortcomings. Spandan inhabits a world where one cannot do both and be reasonable.

Paul Krugman is a Political Rookie. Or How Barack Obama Left John Boehner Holding the Teabag, Again.
Monday, August 01, 2011

Paul Krugman is a political rookie. At least he is when compared to President Obama. That's why he unleashed a screed as soon as word came about the debt ceiling compromise between President Obama and Congressional leaders - to, you know, avert an economic 9/11. Joining the ideologue spheres' pure, fanatic, indomitable hysteria, Krugman declares the deal a disaster - both political and economic - of course providing no evidence for the latter, which I find curious for this Nobel winning economist. He rides the coattails of the simplistic argument that spending cuts - any spending cuts - are bad for a fragile economy, ignoring wholeheartedly his own previous cheerleading for cutting, say, defense spending. But that was back in the day - all the way back in April of this year.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/08/paul-krugman-is-political-rookie-or-how.html

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
59. Spandan has also tossed under Kuttner, Baker, and Stiglitz.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:51 PM
Sep 2013

Not sure if he's allowed them back on the bus.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
54. What "non-liberals?"
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:36 PM
Sep 2013

Say what you mean, name names, or STFU.

Passive aggressive nonsense. Or in other words....Friday.

marble falls

(57,338 posts)
55. Ummm no offence but I've never tired of speakling to the lack of conscience of ultra consrvatives...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
Sep 2013

We need to talk about these things and take a look at ourselves and each other, too.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
61. Who is writing the "Purity" Test for all this wannabe Purging ??? nt
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

I doubt self proclaimed "Liberal" can agree on a definition of Liberalism , not to mention come up with a standard of who is not a Liberal.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
64. the conscience of a "centrist" is bought and paid for
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:16 PM
Sep 2013

Or a combination of carefully crafted PR moves to camouflage the complete absence of one.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
67. Personally i would argue that even liberals should STFU about the "Conscience" of a Liberal as well
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:22 PM
Sep 2013

After all, unless Liberals suddenly developed a hive mind then there is quite a few differing views on exactly what makes one a Liberal(And that would be the easy aspect, if we go into the conscience area of being one then it gets about 200 times more complicated).

I have some extremely large doubts that anybody here on DU could properly define the "Conscience" of a Liberal and have his or her fellow Liberals agree that 'yes, that is exactly what it is'.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
71. Funny, such praise seems to be heaped on Non-Liberals here on DU.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:29 PM
Sep 2013

Putin, Greenwald, Snowden, Rand Paul - pretty much anyone who has something nasty to say about Obama - all have a dedicated DU fan club.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
98. Another Lie
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:14 PM
Sep 2013

No one here supports Rand Paul. I don't know where this whacked out fantasy lie comes from, but it's about as dumb a thing to claim as you could possibly come up with.

Oh wait, I was forgetting for a second there who I was replying to.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
161. Um....when you declare that we "need Rand Paul" then yeah....you
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 01:03 PM
Sep 2013

are supporting him.

That's a direct quote of a prolific poster here.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
102. Your posts have no content and exist only for the purpose of insulting others.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:35 PM
Sep 2013

Thus, you only make yourself look bad.

Please stop.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
75. I normally ignore your OPs (without putting you on ignore). But I dropped in to this one
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:35 PM
Sep 2013

to watch the amen corner go nuts and do back-flips and see whether some balanced, courageous soul had the guts to face down your attack on anyone that doesn't measure up to your ideological purity standards.

Why do you think the far Left has more conscience that liberals or moderates? I purposely used far Left because liberals would have nothing to do with some of the far out shit that is thrown around by some and in fact would be embarrassed to even be alleged to be one of that lost gang.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
104. You clearly do not understand "far Left" as a political concept.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:41 PM
Sep 2013

Nobody has been advocating the nationalization of industry, revolution or confiscation of wealth. I've seen no Trotskyists or hardcore Anarchists taking anyone to task. You are railing against posters who cling to traditional Democratic Party values which you have abandoned.

"Far Left" is just an attempt by you to smear critics of this Democratic Administration.

Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #105)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
168. 1.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 12:23 PM
Sep 2013

There is no far left in the U.S.

2. Because those on what passes for the left in the U.S. are actually about issues first. Parties and personalities are secondary, as they should be. Since you asked.

I find it hysterically funny that those who won't take a stand on issues, but are willing to constantly shift in their efforts to support party, party leaders, and specifically the POTUS no matter what he does or doesn't do would characterize themselves as "balanced," or "courageous."

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
91. You'll know them by really stupid crap they say.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:27 PM
Sep 2013

The one you are referring to, is the stupidest of them all.

applegrove

(118,832 posts)
111. Completely psychopathic to take over
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:53 AM
Sep 2013

Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:45 PM - Edit history (2)

the personal narrative of someone you are opposed to and erase their humanity to their peeps.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
128. Glad I never have to deal with the purity/ostracization drama outside the Democratic party.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:32 AM
Sep 2013

Be a Dem and you can define yourself.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
129. This whole OP reads like a meeting of the Heathers.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:51 AM
Sep 2013

I don't know how you got away with a whole thread written to bash one DUer (predictably morphing into a bash many DUers thread) or who made you the arbiter of who gets to call themself a liberal,but you got away with it and you and the Heathers make DU suck.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
134. You gatta a complaint abiout this thread?
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:42 AM
Sep 2013

Fucking alert on it then.

See what happens.

"Heathers" my ass.

YOU make DU and the Democratic Party suck.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
139. I don't really care if you think I'm worthy of the Democratic party.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:22 AM
Sep 2013

Frankly a lot of you are mirror images of the extreme right who complain about "rinos" and think they are the only true arbiters of what conservative means,they've managed to whittle their party down to old white guys with guns.I imagine if everyone you didn't consider sufficiently liberal enough to be in the democratic party was booted out ,we would have the size and political power of the green party. The democratic party is a big tent party and attempts to shrink the tent would be as destructive as they've been for the GOP.

Response to sufrommich (Reply #139)

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
157. It certainly is
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:53 PM
Sep 2013

Apparently not so obvious to those engaging in the behavior.

This thread is nothing but a collective ass-showing exhibit.

bobduca

(1,763 posts)
141. yeah nice invocation of heathers
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:43 AM
Sep 2013

Don't worry nobody can stop you and your friends from calling yourselves "liberal"

Just maybe you all should try and wait a 30 second count before using it as a sneering insult.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
149. In actual fact, the OP this is commenting from some blog, the 'DUer' who posts
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:35 AM
Sep 2013

it does not claim to be the author, so the person being called out in this OP is not 'one DUer' but is in fact some blogger who does not post here unless he does so under another name. The person who posted that blog link is not the author of the blog. This OP is criticizing the author of the blog. The posting DU does not accept authorship, in fact denies it.
So you are upset at criticism of words by some blogger and call that 'bashing one DUer'. Big leap to the right required in that logic. Like doing the Time Warp with Karl Rove.

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