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Young Republicans salute labor -- On this Labor Day (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 OP
This is what Dems should use to re-educate the Republicans who have not figured out Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #1
oh it went around the internet last year on a number of blogs - I'm sure someone posted it here Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #3
I've never seen it before, thanks. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #6
Growing Up Royal777 Sep 2013 #14
Ike was President. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #2
imagine any President of either party making a speech like this: Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #4
Imagine JFK making the same speech. Boomerproud Sep 2013 #8
I don't know that he did anything to stop it other than the famous speech. His foreign policy Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #10
he kept the evil lunatics like LeMay under control. It is probably quite fortunate that he was there Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #11
Insane, that is what they were. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #13
"Lying our asses off for over fifty years!!11!" lpbk2713 Sep 2013 #5
another kick for labor day Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #7
I'm saving this, along with the Republican Party Platform from 1956 truebluegreen Sep 2013 #9
I am glad that they are not using that playbook anymore. Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #12
another Labor Day Kick Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #15
Stunning. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #16

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. This is what Dems should use to re-educate the Republicans who have not figured out
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:52 AM
Sep 2013

they are voting against their best interest.

Where did you ever find this? It's fantastic.



K&R

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
4. imagine any President of either party making a speech like this:
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:56 AM
Sep 2013
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.”

― President Dwight D. Eisenhower

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"Everything faded into the mist. The past was erased. The erasure was forgotten. The lie became truth."


- George Orwell

Boomerproud

(7,968 posts)
8. Imagine JFK making the same speech.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:14 PM
Sep 2013

He would've been impeached for being a Commie/socialist.

BTW what did Eisenhower actually DO to stop the MIC? If he did do something, I need to be educated and I will not ask the question again.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. I don't know that he did anything to stop it other than the famous speech. His foreign policy
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:29 PM
Sep 2013

was scary imo..he utilized brinkmanship. He would intentionally push adversaries to the brink of
war in order to stop their aggression. With that said, he did negotiate a deal to form a cease
fire in Korea. He was also of the mindset that nukes were a bigger bang for your buck and would
cost must less and serve as a deterrent.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
11. he kept the evil lunatics like LeMay under control. It is probably quite fortunate that he was there
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:38 PM
Sep 2013

at that particular time. The evil madmen who were dominating much of the military establishment at that time genuinely were committed to nuclear holocaust that would have wiped out much of the world. That was their agenda and they were very close to carrying it out. There has been much written about it - this 1995 article in the New Yorker - went into a fair degree of detail - Unfortunately the article is not available for free. But there is much more written about it. Anyone with less clout and gravitas than Eisenhower may have not been able to stand up to what can only be considered the most dangerous people in the history of the world to ever be in the position of power to possibly institute their sinister dream:

Annals of the Cold War

THE GENERAL AND WORLD WAR III

by Richard Rhodes June 19, 1995

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1995/06/19/1995_06_19_047_TNY_CARDS_000370012

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
13. Insane, that is what they were.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 02:04 PM
Sep 2013

LeMay gives the plan to the Air Force and they agreed! Who the fuck were these people, seriously,
were they so detached from their own humanity that they did not just say..hey, that is an insane
idea to this guy? The proposal to kill millions of people, just like that.

Truman also pushed back at LeMay, although he was allowed to bomb parts of Korea anyway..sickening.

This background does give an interesting contrast to Eisenhower, thank you very much for the link.
He clearly used brinkmanship as a tactic, but he also was never in the insane category.

Let's all be grateful Cheney was not there, at the time.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
12. I am glad that they are not using that playbook anymore.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:57 PM
Sep 2013

It would actually strengthen their position. And who wants that?

Today, they just keep punching holes in their sinking ship. Good for them.

A salute to unions and to all workers for Labor Day!!!

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