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He used chemical weapons on his own people. (Original Post) OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2013 OP
Assad sure gained some weight blazeKing Aug 2013 #1
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #2
Yes, (false equation) iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #3
Exactly Fumesucker Aug 2013 #6
while thats going a bit far iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #7
Pepper Spray Update: More Fatalities, More Questions. 27 dead so far, and that's jtuck004 Aug 2013 #11
+1 Little Star Aug 2013 #20
Legally, no. Xithras Aug 2013 #12
"It's use on a battlefield constitutes a war crime equal to that of using sarin. " geek tragedy Aug 2013 #17
U.S. troops used chemical weapons in Iraq. Maedhros Aug 2013 #4
We used it in Laos and Vietnam, as well Link Speed Aug 2013 #8
And Italy, France, Holland, Germany, the Pacific....[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #9
And it's time to play ... Ilsa Aug 2013 #5
Agent Orange was used by the US military Iliyah Aug 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #13
Attempt to hide this post via jury was unsuccessful David Krout Aug 2013 #14
Consider it done. Agschmid Aug 2013 #16
Well he is gone now. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18
yes, the two situations are exactly the same. dionysus Aug 2013 #15
In some people's Cha Aug 2013 #19
 

blazeKing

(329 posts)
1. Assad sure gained some weight
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 01:05 PM
Aug 2013

It must be from all the white babies hes been eating after putting them in blenders

No evidence....but the verdict is clear!!

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
3. Yes, (false equation)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 02:41 PM
Aug 2013

pepper spray is the same as sarin nerve gas.

way to equate two totally different things and totally cheapen the loss of life in Syria at the same time.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. Pepper Spray Update: More Fatalities, More Questions. 27 dead so far, and that's
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:35 PM
Aug 2013

just the ones we know about...

http://www.aclusocal.org/issues/police-practices/pepper-spray/

But, of course, they only had the best of intentions...

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
12. Legally, no.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:36 PM
Aug 2013

OC (colloquially known as pepper spray) is a chemical agent listed and banned under the Chemical Weapons Convention. It's use on a battlefield constitutes a war crime equal to that of using sarin.

People have long commented about the fact that our police forces routinely use weapons on our citizens that are illegal to use against enemy soldiers in wartime.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. "It's use on a battlefield constitutes a war crime equal to that of using sarin. "
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:40 PM
Aug 2013

Bullshit. Sarin is lethal. Pepper spray makes people cry.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. U.S. troops used chemical weapons in Iraq.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 02:57 PM
Aug 2013

US Used White Phosphorus in Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4440664.stm

Col Venable denied that white phosphorous constituted a banned chemical weapon.

Washington is not a signatory to an international treaty restricting the use of the substance against civilians.


The U.S. claim is that it is not a "chemical" weapon but an "incendiary" weapon. White phosphorus is dispersed from an exploding artillery or grenade round as a cloud of chemical dust. It sticks to the skin and reacts with water in the air to produce flame. I can't imagine what happens if you breathe it.

But we can use it with impunity and expect no criticism, because the U.S. is not a signatory to the treaty banning its use. You see, only the United States gets to decide what is and is not a banned weapon.
 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
8. We used it in Laos and Vietnam, as well
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:13 PM
Aug 2013

I have seen the results with my own eyes. I saw people with cauterized wounds that went clear thru their bodies.

Oh, and then there's the matter of depleted uranium in Iraq.

But, hey! It's OK 'cause we're the UNITED MOTHERFUCKING STATES OF MOTHERFUCKING AMERICA!

BOO YAH!!!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Agent Orange was used by the US military
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 03:31 PM
Aug 2013

in Vietnam which in many cases caused cancer and other health problems. Using chemical anything is wrong.

What purportedly the Syrian government used on it's people is just wrong. I've heard it was the rebels that did it. Per corporate media and other countries it was the Syrian government. The use of such a horrible gas being used against its people without any repercussion would signal others to do the same if desired against any rebellious fraction.

I'm hoping for a solution without an attack. I'm hoping for talks between the nations and Syria. Russia and China could play a positive roll alongwith with the USA.

Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Original post)

 

David Krout

(423 posts)
14. Attempt to hide this post via jury was unsuccessful
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:08 PM
Aug 2013

"Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Dangerously close to antisemitism accusing Israel. While it is true Obama has been pushed from both sides (the GOP and the Clinton-Patreus- Panetta cabal), I don't think Obama wants to launch a military attack and maybe feels he can squeeze Assad into acting right. Or at least I hope.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The person who alerted this post apparently thinks that criticizing Israel per se is hide-worthy reason. This post does not disrupt anything. It's an opinion from someone.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: shut up and wait for the official reports. go back to your American tabloid 'news'
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given"

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