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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:10 PM Feb 2012

Catholic Nuns File Brief Supporting Affordable Care Act

Catholic Nuns File Brief Supporting Affordable Care Act

By Ian Millhiser

As further proof that conservative efforts to paint President Obama as the enemy of religion are a red herring, nearly two dozen leading Catholic nuns filed a brief in the Supreme Court last week supporting the president’s signature legislative accomplishment. The Catholic sisters who joined the brief include the leaders of many prominent religious orders providing health care and other services to the needy. As they explain in their brief:

Amici curiae represent the leadership of Catholic women’s religious orders from across the United States. Amici and the orders they serve have a long history of public service in healthcare in America dating back to the 1700s. These services include founding hospitals and free clinics and providing free healthcare to the underprivileged and uninsured. The work by Amici gives them a unique perspective on the unmet healthcare needs of the poor, as well as on the positive impact that will result from the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (“ACA” or the “Act”). . . .

Amici have witnessed firsthand the national crisis that prompted Congress to pass the ACA. In particular, Amici have seen the devastating impact of the lack of affordable health insurance and healthcare on women, children, and other vulnerable members of society.

Amici believe that a civilized society must ensure the provision of basic healthcare to its citizens regardless of their ability to pay for it. They further believe it is a moral imperative that all levels of government institute programs that ensure the poor receive such care. They believe Medicaid expansion under the Act is critical to the communities they serve.

These nuns have unique stature to explain why their support for the Affordable Care Act flows from their faith, given that so many of them have devoted their lives to providing care to those most in need. Nevertheless, their views are hardly unique within their church’s hierarchy. Pope Benedict XVI called health care an “inalienable right,” and added that it is the “moral responsibility of nations to guarantee access to health care for all of their citizens.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/23/431147/catholic-nuns-file-brief-supporting-affordable-care-act/
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Catholic Nuns File Brief Supporting Affordable Care Act (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2012 OP
Clearly nuns are just looking for free birth control to support their slutty ways... onehandle Feb 2012 #1
Not very funny libodem Feb 2012 #5
I so admire these wonderful sisters and the courage they have to show the silly bishops what's RIGHT CurtEastPoint Feb 2012 #2
I agree Tumbulu Feb 2012 #3
WTG Sisters. That took real courage. appleannie1 Feb 2012 #4
Good news from these nuns, but Digby cites Jonathan Cohn on the practices in Catholic hospitals Larkspur Feb 2012 #6
I'm with you on that libodem Feb 2012 #7
I'm very Proud of them and it takes great courage lovuian Feb 2012 #8

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. Not very funny
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:27 PM
Feb 2012

They may need that birth control for the unwed mothers' homes which they often over see. They give realistic common sence advice about not getting knocked up again. Nuns are beautiful people in most cases.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
6. Good news from these nuns, but Digby cites Jonathan Cohn on the practices in Catholic hospitals
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:54 PM
Feb 2012

Whose moral conscience is it anyway?
This article from Jonathan Cohn on the practices in Catholic hospitals is chilling:


The hospital did not perform elective abortions, which is typical for small conservative communities. But the obstetricians were accustomed to terminating pregnancies in the event of medical emergencies. And just such a case presented itself one November morning, when a woman, 15 weeks pregnant, arrived at the emergency room in the middle of a miscarriage. According to a deposition later obtained by The Washington Post, the woman had been carrying twins and passed the first fetus at home in the bathtub. When she arrived via ambulance, she was stable and not bleeding. But the umbilical cord from the first fetus was coming out of her vagina, while the second fetus was still in her uterus.

Robert Holder, the physician on duty who gave the deposition, said the odds of saving the second fetus were miniscule. Doctors would need to tie off the umbilical cord and put the woman at severe risk of infection. After discussing the options, the family, with some difficulty, opted for a medical termination. But, under the new rules, Holder had to get approval from a nurse manager and eventually a more senior administrator. When Holder briefed the administrator, she asked whether the fetus had a heartbeat. It did, he said. “She replied that I had to send the patient out for treatment,” Holder later recalled. He arranged for the woman to get the procedure at the nearest major medical institution—in Tucson. According to his account, the 90-minute trip put her at risk of hemorrhaging and infection, which did not happen, and “significant emotional distress,” which did.

Holder said that an official from Ascension Health, which oversees Carondelet, told him earlier that the rules permit terminating a pregnancy when a spontaneous abortion seems inevitable. (Officials from Ascension and Sierra Vista were not available for comment.) But Bruce Silva, another obstetrician on staff and an early skeptic of the merger, told me that confusion over the rules was common. “We couldn’t get a straight answer,” Silva says. “There was so much gray area. And sometimes you need to make these decisions quickly, for medical reasons.” Even when the new rules were clear, Silva adds, they sometimes prevented physicians from following their best clinical judgments, not to mention their patients’ wishes. A prohibition on tubal ligations, a surgical form of sterilization that severs or blocks the fallopian tubes, meant women had to go elsewhere for this procedure. However, physicians routinely perform this operation as part of a cesarean section, either when patients have requested the procedure or when it’s medically recommended, in order to avoid a second invasive surgery and the attendant medical risks. “I had a patient who was blind. She and her husband were working but poor, and she was diabetic, too,” Silva told me. “She was having her second baby, and that’s all she wanted and she’s got these medical issues. She asked for a tubal ligation. And I can’t do it.”


He points out that the Catholic Hospital system has been growing as they take over more and more community hospitals around the country. He also points out that they receive many millions of taxpayer dollars to do it. So, what about my conscience? It is truly offended by this behavior and I'm not being facetious. Why does this only go one way?

SNIP

My view is that if Catholic hospitals receive taxpayer dollars to build or run their hospitals then they should practice "separation of church and state" or as Jesus said, "Give to Ceaser what is Ceaser's and to God what is God's."

libodem

(19,288 posts)
7. I'm with you on that
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 02:54 PM
Feb 2012

Seems the baby's life takes priority over the life of the mother, even if she has 6 other kids.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
8. I'm very Proud of them and it takes great courage
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 02:58 PM
Feb 2012

to stand against the Bishops and the Pope

but then they are MEN

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