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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:41 AM Aug 2013

Snowden: Greenwald Was ‘Annoyed That I Was Younger’ Than He Expected

Snowden: Greenwald Was ‘Annoyed That I Was Younger’ Than He Expected

The New York Times ran an interview Tuesday between journalist Peter Maass and former government contractor Edward Snowden that was conducted through an encrypted question-and-answer session. Maass communicated with Snowden while reporting on a profile of Laura Poitras, the documentarian who helped Snowden disclose the details of the top secret National Security Agency surveillance programs.

Poitras served as an intermediary for the interview, which touched on Snowden's early interactions with the filmmaker and The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald. The former government contractor told Maass that he believes Poitras and Greenwald were "annoyed" after discovering how young he is when the three met in June in Hong Kong.

I think they were annoyed that I was younger than they expected, and I was annoyed they had arrived too early, which complicated the initial verification. As soon as we were behind close doors, however, I think everyone was reassured by the obsessive attention to precaution and bona fides. I was particularly impressed by Glenn’s ability to operate without sleep for days at a time.

Read the full interview here.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/snowden-greenwald-was-annoyed-that-i-was-younger

Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald will not do TV interview despite preliminary talks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023453953

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Snowden: Greenwald Was ‘Annoyed That I Was Younger’ Than He Expected (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2013 OP
So? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #1
She's posting this from TPM using their headline. SO? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #19
Nice to see you admit you believe Snowden to be credible! Melinda Aug 2013 #2
Go talk to Josh at TPM, she copied it from there. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #20
Gee, if that's the most negative takeaway you could find in this 10 page article . . . leveymg Aug 2013 #3
It's not from the article, it's from a transcript. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #4
Ok, what do you think of the NYT joint-profile this morning? Had a chance to read it? leveymg Aug 2013 #5
ProSense - are you obsessed with Edward Snowden? reformist2 Aug 2013 #6
reformist2, are you upset that I posted this report? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #10
No, I'm amused. You can at least admit you find Ed Snowden very intriguing, no? reformist2 Aug 2013 #17
Will you admit you find me "intriguing"? I mean, you seem focused on me. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #22
I do admire your persistence. You don't get to a six-figure post count overnight! reformist2 Aug 2013 #23
LOL! Yeah, I'm in an elite group. ProSense Aug 2013 #24
:) reformist2 Aug 2013 #25
People who toss insults, whether framed as questions or statements, instead of addressing issues pnwmom Aug 2013 #32
I'm not trying to shut them down - just trying to have some fun. OK? reformist2 Aug 2013 #33
Snowy, a hero in his own mind LOL snooper2 Aug 2013 #7
Trash Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #8
He also said GG should have known that "All his emails belong to government!" EVERY government! MADem Aug 2013 #9
Yeah, ProSense Aug 2013 #14
Here's another quote: ProSense Aug 2013 #26
I wish someone would ask that guy about his adult onset epilepsy. MADem Aug 2013 #28
This thread provides much-needed context for those seeking to understand the NSA spying controversy David Krout Aug 2013 #11
Your obsession is on the scary side. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #12
Oooh, deflection. LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #13
More like projection. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #21
Do you comment on Catherina's "obsession"? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #15
And note the ** crickets ** BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #34
They conspired to steal state secrets. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #16
the only people I know who can operate w/o sleep for days at a time are addicts. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #18
My first thought. bravenak Aug 2013 #30
Can we please get back to the real issue - BOXES IN GARAGES!! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #27
Start your own thread. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #29
... RetroLounge Aug 2013 #31
Offtopic. nt BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #35
Wrong again RetroLounge Aug 2013 #36
Pffth! Dr. Strange Aug 2013 #37
He has the full set in those boxes... RetroLounge Aug 2013 #40
You actually looked for that to post it? ProSense Aug 2013 #38
I have a subscription RetroLounge Aug 2013 #39

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
2. Nice to see you admit you believe Snowden to be credible!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:48 AM
Aug 2013

Of course, cherry picking may be involved....

But, you'd never do that, amiright?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Gee, if that's the most negative takeaway you could find in this 10 page article . . .
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:51 AM
Aug 2013

tells me that this story may be the most important insight yet into the real motives of those involved, and that the bashers have nothing substantial to offer in response.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. Ok, what do you think of the NYT joint-profile this morning? Had a chance to read it?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:56 AM
Aug 2013

I'll go back and read the source article referenced above.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
17. No, I'm amused. You can at least admit you find Ed Snowden very intriguing, no?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:31 AM
Aug 2013

You post something about him practically every day.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. People who toss insults, whether framed as questions or statements, instead of addressing issues
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:28 AM
Aug 2013

reveal more about themselves than the person they're trying to shut down.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. He also said GG should have known that "All his emails belong to government!" EVERY government!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013
E.S.: Yes and no. I know journalists are busy and had assumed being taken seriously would be a challenge, especially given the paucity of detail I could initially offer. At the same time, this is 2013, and a journalist who regularly reported on the concentration and excess of state power. I was surprised to realize that there were people in news organizations who didn’t recognize any unencrypted message sent over the Internet is being delivered to every intelligence service in the world. In the wake of this year’s disclosures, it should be clear that unencrypted journalist-source communication is unforgivably reckless.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/snowden-maass-transcript.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

I think that's kind of important, that whole "...any unencrypted message sent over the Internet is being delivered to every intelligence service in the world."

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Yeah,
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:24 AM
Aug 2013

"He also said GG should have known that 'All his emails belong to government!' EVERY government!"

...there's that focus again. Reminds me of this comment:

Our founders did not write that "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all US Persons are created equal."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower


Snowden: NSA targeted journalists critical of government after 9/11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023455773

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
26. Here's another quote:
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:01 AM
Aug 2013
E.S.: We came to a point in the verification and vetting process where I discovered Laura was more suspicious of me than I was of her, and I’m famously paranoid. The combination of her experience and her exacting focus on detail and process gave her a natural talent for security, and that’s a refreshing trait to discover in someone who is likely to come under intense scrutiny in the future, as normally one would have to work very hard to get them to take the risks seriously.

Really?


MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. I wish someone would ask that guy about his adult onset epilepsy.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:08 AM
Aug 2013

Was that "for real," or did he invent it as an excuse to take time off?

 

David Krout

(423 posts)
11. This thread provides much-needed context for those seeking to understand the NSA spying controversy
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:13 AM
Aug 2013

Thanks a lot Prosense. Great investigative work by TPM.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. the only people I know who can operate w/o sleep for days at a time are addicts.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:31 AM
Aug 2013

But I'm sure S. didn't really mean that about Greenwald and is exaggerating.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
27. Can we please get back to the real issue - BOXES IN GARAGES!!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:04 AM
Aug 2013

C'mon man! Let's not take our eyes off the prize! Now if your daily post about Snowden had something like Eddie teaching his boxes to pole dance, you might change some minds around here.

Cheers!

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
37. Pffth!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:39 AM
Aug 2013


I know I was annoyed at Snowden because those boxes in his garage were heavier than I expected.
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