Rockne Newell has been identified as the rampage shooter in Pennsylvania

[millennialmax]

Rockne Newell, a self-proclaimed junk collector in Ross Township, was identified as the gunman in the deadly shooting at a township municipal meeting last night.

State police at Lehighton sought a search warrant from a district judge to search Newell's property.

According to previous reports, Newell got a building permit from the township to have a storage structure on the property, but then built a dwelling without first getting a zoning permit or certificate of occupancy from the township.

Over the years, authorities have responded to Newell's property as a result of neighbor complaints and on one occasion in 2009 found human fecal matter in buckets there, according to previous reports in the Pocono Record.

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130805/NEWS/130809865

[WalterMondale4Lyfe]

1. Who IS suprised HE loves guns??

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What a big surprise. More information on his stupid views.

[B Calm]

3. When you think about it, allowing citizens the right

to own guns is a very liberal idea.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

4. ^^^ +1

[el_bryanto]

5. So I guess all the people would disagree with that assertion haven't thought about it. nt

[B Calm]

6. No, I'm not saying that at all.

[el_bryanto]

7. oh? I guess when you say "When you think about it" that confused me a bit. My mistake. nt

[Iggo]

8. When people say "when you think about it"...

...what it really means is "when I think about it", but that doesn't sound as good.

[Turborama]

18. Or, "When one thinks about it"

Which sounds more inclusive than "When I think about it", but is less common than saying, "When you think about it".

[B Calm]

25. Can the word liberal be used in a matter other than political? Like:

Liberal amounts of food were distributed to the needy. My new diet requires me to drink liberal amounts of water.

[Turborama]

28. Yes, of course.

So are you saying it wasn't a political point you were making? I actually thought I got it when I read it, BTW.

[B Calm]

29. LOL

[Fawke Em]

35. When does that happen?

I mean the part about giving the needy liberal amounts of food?

[B Calm]

36. At Christmas time?

[Baitball Blogger]

9. The Second Amendment issue is the one that puts him in line with Republicans.

The other one appears to be his distaste for government regulation.

This is another example of the political disconnect which seems to be cropping up in our country.

[Turborama]

11. Doesn't a distaste for government regulations also tie him to Republican ideology?

Specifically, the Libertarian/Teabaggers Inc. side of their political spectrum.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. Exactly.

When you find a Democrat who is against government regulation, it should set your radar off.

The only time I can think there would be a problem with that is if the government regulation was proposed by Republicans who are making it easier on corporations or if the government entity is Republican controlled and is applying the rules in an arbitrary fashion.

Hard to believe that we have local governments who pick and chose who they are going to apply the rules to, and who they decide to bestow favoritism in order to buy loyalties, but it does happen. I live in one of them.

[hexola]

13. Arent the sentiments of your first sentence and your last - a contradiction?

Im favor lowering the drinking age to 18...so Im "against govt regulation"

Set off any radar?

[Turborama]

16. Eh?

I'm going to highlight the 1st and last of their sentences, please explain how they contradict each other....

When you find a Democrat who is against government regulation, it should set your radar off.

The only time I can think there would be a problem with that is if the government regulation was proposed by Republicans who are making it easier on corporations or if the government entity is Republican controlled and is applying the rules in an arbitrary fashion.

Hard to believe that we have local governments who pick and chose who they are going to apply the rules to, and who they decide to bestow favoritism in order to buy loyalties, but it does happen. I live in one of them.

[hexola]

17. Sorry I should have said paragraph...

So your radar never goes off?

[Turborama]

19. Radar?

Please explain.

[hexola]

24. Me? Radar is your word...not mine!

you've already defined it.

[Turborama]

27. Yes, you. Your question to me ---> "So your radar never goes off?" You mentioned radar, not me.

I was just asking what you were on about.

And what are you talking about, I have "defined it"? When? How?

[hexola]

30. just mind your own post...

my reply was to another poster - not you.

[Turborama]

34. LOL, I can reply to who I wish, thanks.

You jumped into our discussion, as it happens.

And in answer to your question... No, my radar never goes off.

[JHB]

32. Regulations are not immutable, changing them does not equal being against them

For the drinking age example, do you think it's illegitimate for the government to set a drinking age at all, or do you just disagree with the current regulation and think a change to 18 is in order?

That would be the big difference.

Another point would be how one went about protesting or defying a regulation they thought was improper or invalid. This guy simply ignored some fairly basic building regulations.

[Baitball Blogger]

38. I think I responded to your question above to the other poster.

I'm fine with petitions and referendums to change regulation. It's a process that requires convincing a large segment of the population, so it tends to be more democratic.

Because I live in a Republican community I know that there is no such thing as simply ignoring basic building regulations. Around here there is a hardcore philosophy of land taking in this community that they euphemistically refer to as "property rights." It goes far beyond what you think it means. It's like a mental illness that is easily spread and corrupts the fabric of civility between neighbors.

What is most upsetting is that it looks like lawyers have helped to feed the frenzy. Because this is mostly a Republican community, I associate that nuttery with Republicans. Most unfortunate because a lot of corruption goes on at the high level, while middle ground soldiers are disrupting the community with their pseudo legal interpretations of property rights.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. When I say "against government regulation..."

I mean, something that you will just plain ignore.

I live in a Republican community and I see examples of it every day. Many Republicans don't believe in following regulations. Period. They constantly denounce any city, state or federal law without making any effort to understand why the law was legislated to begin with. That includes the declarations of their own HOA. It makes for constant conflicts, especially when they take over the boards.

I don't see a problem wanting to change the laws you don't agree with, as you have mentioned in your case. That's what petitions and referendums are for. I can even see the usefulness of civil disobedience if the circumstance requires it. But just turning your back on all regulation...that tends to be a Republican trait.

[hexola]

40. And in my rural PA area - some of those same Republicans ARE the govt...

So safe to be against them?

[Baitball Blogger]

41. Check my website in about two months time.

It's our duty to expose how they have taken over our local governments and warped them beyond recognition. My interest is civil rights and after years of personal research I have found that the source of inequality in our society comes from Republican inspired government.

[snooper2]

15. He sounds just like the paranoid libertarians that we have been seeing on DU lately

The NSA is listenin' to all me calls!

You can't trust gubiment!

I voted for Obama but he is a failure!

[Just Saying]

26. My thoughts exactly.

Paranoid and armed is a dangerous combination.

Is he being truthful or playing a part? The "I voted for Obama but..." line reminds me of when people say things like "I have black friends but..." And I'm not saying people are racist who disagree with the President at all, but that maybe they're not being truthful about their support in the first place.

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Makes me wonder too.

[pintobean]

10. Welcome to DU. x3. nt

[msanthrope]

14. Let's see...a I've been betrayed by Obama and love my guns type?

Oh my.....

[bettyellen]

21. He could have posted here and found agreement. Even the feces posts would probably stand, ;-O

[msanthrope]

44. I wasn't gonna ask what his DUer name was, but I wanna know. nt

[ecstatic]

22. What a weird combination! But I've seen that phenomenon here

I thought it was just a troll, but maybe there is a weird new ideology taking shape.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022096787

[msanthrope]

43. Oh yeah--you see that type hanging out in Gungeon quite frequently now. nt

[DevonRex]

48. Oh and you just know

he's back. I think we spotted him the other day.

[bettyellen]

20. Obama took away my feces collection!

[SoCalDem]

23. Rockne is one confused/deluded nutcase

Glad he's "buttoned down" now..

So much for the 2nd amendment..

his next amendment to use will be the 5th..and then off to jail for that idiot

[hexola]

31. Google Earth of his Property

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=293+Flyte+Road+Saylorsburg+PA&hl=en&ll=40.902196,-75.349739&spn=0.001908,0.004128&sll=40.901836,-75.351686&sspn=0.015262,0.033023&t=f&hnear=Flyte+Rd,+Saylorsburg,+Monroe,+Pennsylvania+18353&z=19&ecpose=40.90138325,-75.34973853,322.12,0.001,50.925,0

[Lex]

37. Ah, a Ruby Ridge-ophile gun stroker.

Quelle surprise.

[Arkana]

39. This guy just strikes me as an ultra-libertarian nutjob

who loves guns way too much.

[JI7]

46. sounds like stuff posted on DU these days

[GiaGiovanni]

47. Wait. Is this the one there's the media blackout on?