US Senate IP Caught Defacing Edward Snowden's Wikipedia Entry

[kpete]

SAT AUG 03, 2013 AT 09:56 AM PDT
US Senate IP Caught Defacing Edward Snowden's Wikipedia Entry
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Republished from Voices on the Square by permission because I wrote it.




Usually the only wiki we associate with Edward Snowden is WikiLeaks. However, in a hilarious turn of events, an IP address linked to the United States Senate was caught defacing Edward Snowden's Wikipedia article last evening. The "less than neutral" edit was to change the lead sentence from this:

Edward Joseph Snowden (born June 21, 1983) is an American dissident who leaked details of several top-secret United States and British government mass surveillance programs to the press.

to this:

Edward Joseph Snowden (born June 21, 1983) is an American traitor who leaked details of several top-secret United States and British government mass surveillance programs to the press.

When this was discovered by Wikipedia staffers, it was quickly edited back, but the fact that a United States Senate staffer has the time to deface Wikipedia entries does not bode well for our democracy. Get back to work, Government, and stop spying on us when you should be doing your real jobs.


More:
http://www.voicesonthesquare.com/articles/2013/08/03/us-senate-ip-caught-defacing-edward-snowdens-wikipedia-entry
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/03/1228659/-US-Senate-IP-Caught-Defacing-Edward-Snowden-s-Wikipedia-Entry

[NYC_SKP]

1. From "dissident" to "traitor" to "fugitive", it now reads "American intelligence leaker"...

It's been a busy morning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Snowden&action=history

[rhett o rick]

3. Big Money has learned that they can rewrite history. nm

[snot]

99. They've known that from the get go. There's a reason they're keen on

the Cloud and the "semantic Web."

[treestar]

7. that's at least neutral

funny how people think there are no bare facts, but just opinions!

[NYC_SKP]

9. The wikipedia editing community is tenacious and precise.

I really admire them, thousands of faceless people who really take care to hold other members to strict standards of fairness and accuracy.

I think this latest change will stick.

[Jim Lane]

23. Yes, it was the community, not staffers.

Wikipedia's paid staffers work on the technical end, on legal affairs, on fundraising, etc. Creation and supervision of article content is done by volunteers.

[reusrename]

88. Sometimes they get away with stuff.

They purged John Negropnte's involvement in Iran/Contra from his page.

[snot]

100. I'm sure there's LOTS of money paying people to revise favorably to the 1%

while the rest of us have to just volunteer.

[sabrina 1]

66. Has there been a trial or something to make the 'change' a fact? Some things actually ARE

facts, that isn't one of them.

Hilarious, and the more they do petty stuff like this the better he looks. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't all reverse psychology.

[rhett o rick]

115. Open-minded people realize that most "facts" are just perceptions. And mostly

those that are certain about "bare facts" are closed-minded. Do you trust CNN as providing "bare facts?" Where does one get "bare facts?"

We know very few things for certain unless we are involved, and even then there is always doubt.

[PatrynXX]

21. well if he wins the peace prize

well then thats his official title.

We can find out the Senate is hacking sites but we still don't know who changed the date in Texas on the Abortion ban to before midnight which is way more illegal. (the first vote)

brain dead...

[mimi85]

25. Peace prize??

Please say you're kidding.

[greiner3]

62. A agree with you, but;

Not in the way you mean.

A person must be alive when they accept any Nobel Prize and it seems to me that President Obama just may offer Putin 'an offer even Vlad can't turn down.

[jtuck004]

85. Maybe

Let him hold his 2009 Nobel Peace Prize?

Unless he has missile coordinates from the ones they dropped on children in Pakistan on the back, of course.

[AppleBottom]

93. What's the matter he hasn't droned enough people for you?

Fresh, how many secret court rulings do you need to get some respect around here.

[mimi85]

131. Funny Joe

Obama gets in the threads that have nothing to do with him. We could start a thread about, oh I don't know, how about The Antique Road Show and someone will blame him for the loss in the values of Beanie Babies. Yep, I'd much rather have McCain as prez. No drones, just wars in at least Iran, maybe Syria while we're at it.

[AppleBottom]

132. I figured the peace prize comment mad an excellent segue.

I'm not sure how that leads to McCain, Syria, or Beanie babies. Did one of them get a peace prize for droning people?

[AppleBottom]

94. I remember when Conscientious Objector was a respected term around here. nt

[snot]

102. +1!

[Scuba]

107. + another

[Scurrilous]

120. LOL

I remember when people knew the correct definition of the term.

"A conscientious objector (CO) is an "individual who has claimed the right to refuse to perform military service"[1] on the grounds of freedom of thought, conscience, and/or religion.[2] In general, conscientious objector status is only considered in the context of military conscription and is not applicable to volunteer military forces."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector

[AppleBottom]

122. Ohhh it's on Wiki pedia so it must be true...

con·sci·en·tious/ˌkɒnʃiˈɛnʃəs, ˌkɒnsi-/ Show Spelled [kon-shee-en-shuhs, kon-see-] Show IPA
adjective
1. controlled by or done according to one's inner sense of what is right; governed by conscience; principled: a conscientious judge.

Objector \Ob*ject"or\, noun. [Latin expression, an accuser.]

noun
1. A person who dissents from some established policy.[Wordnet]
2. One who objects; one who offers objections to a proposition or measure.[Websters].

[Coyotl]

2. Is this a Hatch Act violation and a fire them offense?

Maybe it does not fit the statute well. Using a government computer for this is very wrong!

[mimi85]

26. Like Snowden did? nt

[DeSwiss]

29. Well, since you put it that way......

[cherokeeprogressive]

46. "Two wrongs don't make a..."

You finish it.

[Vanje]

35. Oh, the fuck!

Those people do not get fired.
Clapper lied to congress. Admitted it....Nothing happened.
Obama supported that asshole.

[HipChick]

4. It's very easy to fake an IP address

[Aerows]

5. It's easy to deface a Wikipedia entry

and far too many people depend on it as a sole source of "information".

[tammywammy]

6. +1 n/t

[PatrynXX]

22. I don't

partially why I sent mom to WebMD first. unfortunately we didn't find what we were looking for. So had to go to wikipedia. Boobpedia is just as inaccurate in spots With some being listed as real boobs and some as fakes while they aren't...

now whether I should be calling them boobs, breasts, boobies (british) uh 900 other slang terms or tater t*ts. is outside my hands. But when one's looking for back surgery medical terms. WebMD should be first. Unfortunately they have a lack of a dictionary

[HiPointDem]

89. beer & travel money?

[mwooldri]

82. Easy to deface, yes. Quickly changed? In certain cases, yes.

I would be very surprised if the Wikipedia entry for Mr. Snowden isn't on a watch list. Certain wikipedia entries are more closely monitored than others, so I'm surprised that this wiki edit even made its way through. I'm certain future edits will be much more closely monitored before even being published.

[tridim]

8. True. Which unfortunately means that possibility will be completely ignored by Neo-DU. nt

[pscot]

11. You think someone is trying to make the Senate look bad?

[tridim]

14. No, I just know IP addresses can be spoofed. Easily. nt

[NorthCarolina]

106. Really?

How? In detail.

[cherokeeprogressive]

65. Anything is possible. What's PROBABLE is another story altogether.

No one is ignoring the possibility; it's simply that Occam's Razor works just about perfectly here.

[leftstreet]

10. But not easy to fool wiki techs n/t

[tridim]

15. Spoofed IPs aren't traceable.

http://www.ehow.com/how_7640486_spoof-ip-addresses.html

[leftstreet]

64. Wanna bet? n/t

[AgingAmerican]

86. That is tot tunneling

It does not allow you to choose an IP. It assigns one to you.

[frylock]

17. yeah, that happened

[Coyotl]

36. Or to log into a server with a wifi password.

[TampaAnimusVortex]

113. Not really in this case...

Faking an IP is easy. Faking an authenticated remote TCP session is slightly more complex.

The user was authenticated with Wikipedia, which means the session required a two way communication with the server - not one way.
That means the traffic had to get back to the client.
This means at best, the IP address could have been spoofed from someone along the path of travel - most likely someone on the same VLAN as the client.
Even if it was spoofed from the local vlan, (assuming a real local client - because otherwise whats the point?) the local client would almost certainly also receive the return packets and in response to the unknown spoofed session, kick out some reset packets to close the unknown session - thereby terminating the session with the server and the spoofer would get shut out anyways.

It's highly unlikely that just any old random hacker on the internet could just spoof this from his remote site without taking over some component of the traffic pathway. I also doubt that Senate security wouldn't detect someone spoofing IPs on their VLANs as it's a pretty basic signature to detect on just about every intrusion detection system around.

[carolinayellowdog]

12. comforting that Senate staffers can convict someone of treason anonymously

well, maybe more comforting that Wikipedia editors can instantly acquit them

[DirkGently]

13. There is apparently no end to the petty regarding Snowden. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Cute

[Cha]

18. The fuck is this.. don't they know snowden is the only

one who can fuck around on computers and get away with it?

[Wilms]

19. So far the NSA can still "get away with it".

Hopefully that will CHANGE, and it will be in no small part because of Snowden.

[AverageJoe90]

20. Unfortunately.....Snowden isn't exactly a hero, ladies and gentlemen.

Sorry, folks, but where was Snowden when Bush's second term was ending? And, why is Obama being blamed for most of the by the so-called "liberal" media, when in fact, Bush and Cheney started this B.S., and was WORSE than the current POTUS's administration.

Furthermore, why does Snowden's small, albeit seemingly devoted, fan club continue to ignore the fact that China, Germany, and several other nations have done the same things as Bush-Cheney did, and worse, in some cases(China's "Great Firewall" being a great example of such!), and that Obama's actually tried(if not always succeeded, I hate to admit) to make things better for ordinary American citizens?

It's times like this when I wonder if the heads of our press really are crooked; Bush-Cheney fouled up quite a bit worse and they weren't complaining then, for the most part. Why are they turning on Obama now?

C'mon folks, wake up and smell the damn coffee, please. I'm no fan of the NSA's overreach, I don't think anyone here IS, in fact. But let's not lose sight of the forest in the midst of this small grove of trees, as it were.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. Snowden is like a LOT of Americans.....

....he had his political awakening when he noticed a black guy in the White House.

[former9thward]

37. I was wondering what today's meme from The Authority was going to be.

He did it because he is a racist! And therefore anyone who supports him is a racist!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. That's like saying he only supported peeping before because Bush was from Texas.

[Vanje]

39. Thats low

There is no reason to think that Snowden is a racist.
Try something else.
You're getting desperate.

Otherwise, tell us about the racist proclivities of Senator Wyden, Jimmy Carter, Al Franken, Stuart Udall and John Conyers.

[AverageJoe90]

44. At least THEIR intentions are solid! Snowden's, not so much. n/t

[Vanje]

47. How do you know

what the intentions of another are ?
I heard Snowden's address at the Moscow airport. I have no reason to doubt his sincerity. I'm inclined to take him at his word.

[AverageJoe90]

51. Vanje, I've done quite a bit of research on this guy.....and believe me,

he isn't the hero you may have sincerely thought he was.

[Bluenorthwest]

109. Research should deliver facts you can share rather than serve as context for

you characterizations of what you think others think. Your research showed that Vanje sincerely thought he was a hero? Seriously? What were your methods used to read Vanje's mind and soul?
Research, no facts to deliver, but you claim quite a big of apparently fruitless research.
Up thread you ask 'where was Snowden at the end of Bush's term and the answer is being 24 years old. Did your research uncover that tidbit? When Bush was elected he was 16- Why did he not stop it?!?!!
Pretension only goes so far.

[chervilant]

118. Who or what Snowden is

pales in significance when one contemplates the international dialogues motivated by his actions, and the increased awareness of the overreach of the NSA.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. The whole Tea Party went there after it was hijacked from Ron Paul....

....oh wait,...there's those newsletters.

[AverageJoe90]

43. Sad but damn true, I'm afraid.

Though I fear it may be worse than that. Been looking into this guy for a while, and he is definitely not the hero some thought he was, at the very least.....I've found a lot of stuff on the Web that's been pointing in a very odd direction, and perhaps I'll get around to posting some of them soon.....hopefully.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

52. He did the right thing in exposing this stuff but that doesn't make him an icon....

....let me rephrase that....

[AverageJoe90]

55. It's his motivations that have me quite concerned.

At least Brad Manning sincerely thought he was doing everybody a favor(as far as can be seen, anyway); Snowden, on the other hand, has shown himself to be not all that he claims to be. His support of Ron Paul & the statements he's known to have made in prior years, are just the tip of the iceberg.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. He's a Libertarian infiltrator....

Don't get me wrong, infiltration is what we need to bring down a lot of the powers that be.

[AverageJoe90]

60. But could he be a "double agent" of sorts?

I find it very suspicious that these libertarian types only just started coming out of the woodwork when Obama was first elected president. During the Bush years, about the only ones who said anything were the small crowd of Alex Jones fanatics.....that was about it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

61. There's a difference between Liberals and Conservatives....

Liberals look at Conservatives as being a bunch of people that are just plain wrong and are confident the rest of America does too.

Conservatives look at Liberals as being a bunch of traitors that are such a threat that they should be eliminated.

Conservatives also project a lot.

They just ASSUME Obama is going to abuse the Constitution as much as Cheney.

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. Then again, perhaps you won't.

I'm betting won't wins the day.

[AverageJoe90]

75. Well, we'll see.

The stuff is out there, it's only a matter of getting the time to actually post it. I'll admit I'm a bit of a procrastinator, but hopefully, I can start sometime soon(I've already linked to a few of these as is, in other posts).

[Bluenorthwest]

110. I find that folks who have the time to post endless insinuations and arch implications

while claiming they have no time to post facts to be straining credulity. Those who say 'if I could show you this list in my hands....but I can't so trust me' are almost always engaging in a bluff. Exaggeration of their materials, etc. If you had information that mattered, clearly you'd rush to the spotlight to shout it out. But you don't.

[nashville_brook]

48. are you referring to the Dave Emory conspiracy?

b/c that's just cray cray.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

54. Naw,...I've met Tea Party houswives that couldn't have told you who was president in 06.

[AverageJoe90]

73. Well.....all I gotta say is.....

TBH, some of the stuff Dave says at times, does have to be taken with a dose of salt(he's convinced that the Arab Spring was pretty much entirely a BushCo op: I don't believe this is quite the case, though).....but he does seem to connect a lotta dots that others don't.....

[AgingAmerican]

87. Desperate

And pathetic.

[the_sly_pig]

28. It concerns me this issue of condemning whistleblowers.

Manning, Snowden, Rawley. Rather than look upon them as virtuous, they are portrayed as traitors. In my opinion, ultimately whistle blowers have a concern for the greater good and are willing to sacrifice for their beliefs. Making behaviors public has cost these people dearly. It could be that the timeline is contrived, but that shouldn't diminish what they have done.

Regarding * and Vader, after committing our country to war based on false pretense and greed, I find myself unmoved by the simple destruction of constitutional principles.

[AverageJoe90]

33. Welcome to DU.....

While it is true that many of today's whistleblowers(Sibel Edmonds is a great example from a little while back, as was Valerie Plame) have indeed had noble intentions in mind, I am sincerely concerned that Snowden's intentions were far less than pure; and unfortunately, there are mounds of evidence that suggest that indeed, he had nothing but ulterior motives in mind.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/exclusive-in-2009-ed-snowden-said-leakers-should-be-shot-then-he-became-one/

Snowden was also a backer of Ron Paul in last year's elections:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-ron-paul_n_3414992.html

And that's just the tip of the iceberg that not all is as it seems with this Snowden fellow......not to mention that just 4 years ago, he was openly far-right and said that hackers oughta be shot...

[the_sly_pig]

81. thank you. :)

[Vanje]

34. China and Germany ae not my country.

I may not like the actions of China, Germany, or Russia , but these are not my country. They do not act for me.

Bush-Cheney. Well, who at DU didnt imagine that Bush-Cheney was leading our country steeply into fascist territory.

But when MY candidate, MY president, continues Bush-Cheney's path, yeah. I'm pissed.

"Change we can believe in"?
I believed it.
I've been played. We've been played.

My only very thin hope for my country is that we have a REAL liberal candidate to select in 2016.
I think the people are ready for some real hope and change. ( We were ready back in 2008, but our elected leader failed miserably, to deliver.)

[disidoro01]

38. When

My kids act up and when I ask them to stop, I don't let them get away with the "he started it" argument. I don't care who started it, I expect it to stop. Whether it's name calling, fighting over the remote, torture, renditions, make faces at each other, killing innocent children, poking each other or regime change.

Know what I mean Joe?

By the way, you are full of crap when you say this: "Bush-Cheney fouled up quite a bit worse and they weren't complaining then, for the most part."

[AverageJoe90]

69. Yeah, I hear you. Doesn't change what I said a darn bit, though.

And TBH, many of the fake-ass Randian/Paulite "libertarians" really DIDN'T have a problem with Bush & Cheney pulling their crap. It was only when the African-American Democrat got into the White House that they really started massing up, with the "Tea Party", and such.

It was only when the Democratic Party took back the White House......when this supposed uproar began amongst this group, when progressives had been genuinely concerned about this stuff for years.

[disidoro01]

119. The only

thing you seemed concerned about Joe is covering for a President who failed to live up to many of his promises.
I think you have no argument so you throw out the standard racism and libertarians talking points.
Put up some facts.
Do you actually give a damn about the thousands we are killing in the middle east? The children? Or is it more important to cover for these deaths because the president is a Democrat?

[Vanje]

124. I do not like Ron Paul

He has disturbing antisemitic and racist ties.
I don't like him at all.
Rand Paul, I know less about, but if the apple falls anywhere near the tree, then I dont like him either. Not a bit.

But you err when you assert that Ron Paul didnt have a problem with Bush-Cheney.
He was consistently strongly outspoken against the Bush administrations actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

63. Snowden has higher approval ratings than congress and is certainly more heroic than politicians.

And, the "not as bad" as Cheney and Bush is a piss poor excuse for what the NSA under Obama is doing.

[AverageJoe90]

71. Let's not lose sight of the bigger picture, though.

TBH, I'm not happy with the NSA, either. And believe me, I wish Obama HAD done a little better sometimes.
But at least he's made some efforts in that direction.....even if not always succeeding, and being cockblocked by McConnell, Boehner, et al.(look at what happened with Chuck Hagel!)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

77. The NSA and it's spying is the "Bigger Picture".

And, the regime's attempts to keep what it's been up to is damned fine indicator of how Big a picture it is.

[AverageJoe90]

84. It's part of the picture, yes. But not the whole thing.

Germany's had a lot of issues with this stuff, too. And so has China....in fact, perhaps only God knows just how deep the Chinese rabbit hole goes; we may only have just scratched the surface in that regard, I fear.....and what worries me is, the GOP will be all too happy to take us there: you think things are bad now? If a guy like Rick Santorum or Rand Paul wins in '16....we may have seen nothing yet....

[Vanje]

125. IF Rand Paul wins in '16......(shudder)

It will be because the Democratic party powers that be, are standing on the wrong side of the citizen surveillance issue.

When the BEST thing you can say about our party, is that they're less bad than the Bush Administration, you've got some bad PR problems.

[cherokeeprogressive]

67. Thanks for the honesty. Sorta.

"Why is Obama being blamed..." I love it when the Obama Protectors give us what's really on their minds. It's not Edward Snowden. It's President Obama and how you're worried this might make him look bad.

President Obama is ten times removed from what's going on at NSA and other intel alphabet soup agencies. He's untouchable in this. How many times do we have to say it?

How many posts from Snowden supporters have even mentioned President Obama in the context of blaming him for anything at all? Not many, if any.

[AverageJoe90]

72. There may not be many, but they sure are LOUD.

President Obama is ten times removed from what's going on at NSA and other intel alphabet soup agencies. He's untouchable in this.

I'm glad to hear that. The truth is, though, some others haven't realized this just yet.
I do realize that the NSA needs to be talked about. That's not my problem. But too many folks out there don't seem to realize that they're not seeing the whole picture here: Why, exactly did Snowden do this in the first place? Why did he defect to China, and then Russia, with this information? This isn't something Bob Woodward pr Sibel Edmonds would've done, I suspect.

[cherokeeprogressive]

74. So you're saying there are posters here who are blaming what the NSA is doing on PO?

I've not seen that. Might it be it's simply the way President Obama's biggest supporters perceive the situation?

[ancianita]

117. Sibel Edwards says herself that, in following proper channels, she's been totally shut down.

[AverageJoe90]

128. Not surprising, sadly. The NSA is STILL corrupt even under a better POTUS. n/t

[Vanje]

126. The Obama administrations zealous crack down on whistle blowers

is what puts Obama into the mix.

[Cha]

101. Mahalo, Joe~

It's all Pres Obama's fault.. everyone else is blameless.

snowden is Putin's libertarian, propaganda puppet now and .. greenwald?..

greenwald has an agenda.. "you can learn everything you need to know!!111" in his book coming out in March 2014.

Although, I can predict it will read like a mitt romney campaign speech.. laced liberally with invectives against PBO.

[Bluenorthwest]

108. Where was he at the end of Bush's term? Being 25 years old.

This notion you promote of 'heroes' is a bunch of idiocy. I think to even look for heroes shows a giant flaw in a person and I observe that it is a common flaw in the Centrist mindset, almost as if this is how they function, by selecting heroes to replace a set of actual principles.

[indepat]

24. Hey effin' senate staffer: what about those who fail to preserve and protect the Constitution of the

United States? What moniker best fits those rascals?

[darkangel218]

30. Heavy metal as in Satyricon and Dissection??

[DeSwiss]

31. I'm sure the NSA knows who did it.

- Precisely who. Probably put them up to it.....

K&R

[center][/center]

[whttevrr]

41. +1 to the camera snake!

[Faryn Balyncd]

32. Those in power who subvert the Constitution are the traitors.

[valerief]

40. Senate staffers, like their bosses, work for the 1%. nt

[AverageJoe90]

76. So, it appears, was Fast Eddie Snowden. n/t

[AgingAmerican]

90. Ad Hominem

Character assassination is a deliberate and sustained process that aims to destroy the credibility and reputation of a person, institution, social group, or nation. [1]

Agents of character assassinations employ a mix of open and covert methods to achieve their goals, such as raising false accusations, planting and fostering rumours, and manipulating information.

Character assassination is an attempt to tarnish a person's reputation. It may involve exaggeration, misleading half-truths, or manipulation of facts to present an untrue picture of the targeted person. It is a form of defamation and can be a form of ad hominem argument.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_assassination

[AverageJoe90]

96. Assuming that Snowden had any real character to begin with.....

.....which I'm not so sure that he did.

At least Bob Woodward & Carl Bernstein, the first of the modern leakers, didn't give state secrets to the enemy.....Snowden did, and guess where much of the non-NSA-focused outrage has been directed so far, outside of the progressive/liberal circle in which we sit? That's right, none other than Barack H. Obama.....the sitting President, instead of Bush & Cheney, who started this whole milieu.

At least many of US are able to see the whole story; but the conservatives and the so-called Paulite "libertarians" DON'T. You know why? Because of just who's in the White House, that's why....and I hope those of our fellows who've been misled by the disinfo can wake up, because we've got a pair of very crucial elections coming up in the next few years. And I mean crucial!

[AgingAmerican]

98. Thanks

For proving my point

[Bluenorthwest]

111. Character attacks are the domain of those who lack any factual or reality based

attacks or criticisms to offer. The mere use of denigrating names and vague insinuations demotes your entire point of view to the gasp of panic. There is no 'there' in your posts.
The other comical aspect is your fear of Rand Paul, a man with a Nutria on his head, as a viable candidate for any office outside his regional zone of atavism. Rand could do twice as well as his Dad and still never win a Primary, much less get near the nomination of his own Party. I think the Nutria on his head could do better as a candidate without Rand.

[HangOnKids]

91. Such Cute NickNames

Is he a fucking NASCAR driver now too?

[AverageJoe90]

95. Lulz, bro.

If he were a Nascar driver....I can imagine that he'd use some "Sneaky" tactics to get ahead.....ya know?

[Bluenorthwest]

112. Yes and those emoticons really help sell the deep thought and serious view you

have of this issue. Nicknames and emoticons. Oh, and lots of research but no time to post that!!!!!

[Vanje]

127. You have failed to demonstrate that.

When you do produce you treatise, I'd be interested in reading it.

[RainDog]

42. propaganda in action

we see it here, too.

[nashville_brook]

45. stay classy Senate Intelligence Committee!

[millennialmax]

53. I hope someone finds out which Senate member's staff did it.

I'll throw them $5 during their next reelection.

[Enthusiast]

56. Your tax dollars at work!

[MADem]

57. Interns drinking in the office again!!!

Of course, in Russia, there's no worry about anyone doing any of that editing at all--the government takes care of that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/02/russia-enacted-its-own-sopa-the-day-it-granted-snowden-asylum/

Russia enacted its own SOPA the day it granted Snowden asylum


NSA leaker Edward Snowden left a Moscow airport Thursday after Russia granted him a year of temporary asylum. But Snowden should take note: the current regime has a very questionable record at respecting digital civil liberties.



....Russia has an Internet blacklist that is used to censor political speech. And the tech used to enforce it can be used for surveillance.

Interesting article....

[Number23]

78. Interesting article, indeed! But even Russian citizens aren't all thrilled that Ed is in their mix

Only 51% of Russians approve of Snowden's activities - http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/08/01/Most-Russians-approve-of-Snowdens-leaking-NSA-secrets/UPI-25781375372282/

If THAT don't say all that needs to be said, I don't know what will.

And here's one from The Guardian itself - "Edward Snowden's temporary asylum gets mixed reception among Russians" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/02/edward-snowden-asylum-russia-reaction

The fact that Snowden can barely muster 50% support in Russia is mindblowing.

[MADem]

79. He's not getting the 'Depardieu' treatment, that's for sure!

This quote from your second link is rather telling:

Former Pussy Riot lawyer Mark Feigin questioned whether Snowden would be safe in Russia. "Snowden doesn't fully understand that accepting asylum in Russia is about the same as agreeing to receive an inheritance from a lawyer in Nigeria by email," Feigin tweeted Thursday.

[Number23]

80. I loved that quote and I knew you'd like it too!!

I was expecting to see 70+% and higher approvals of Snowy in Russia, of all places. This is stunning. And EXTREMELY telling.

[MADem]

83. Russians may be living under the defacto Putin regime

(we know, whether he is PM or President, he calls the shots) but they're not stupid.

They know what game Pootie is playing, and they're smart enough to look down the road and question whether his ego-driven chain jerking is worth it!

To say nothing of the recent changes in internet law in Russia, making it far more difficult to see anything Pootie doesn't want you to see....

[AverageJoe90]

97. Sad but damn true.

Putin's no Stalin, but he IS a crook. Always has been. I've always figured him to be the equivalent of Dubya Bush with more charisma and cleverness.....but every bit as crooked.

[Cha]

103. I saw that via Bob Cesca's blog.. and, this is "ironic" how?..

"Edward Snowden, man of Liberty and Internet Freedom, afraid of losing access to a computer in prison, was granted asylum in Russia on the same day the country enacted it’s own version SOPA according to The Washington Post."

This time last year, Russia also passed a ‘won’t someone think of the children’ law that is, not-surprisingly, being used to censor political opponents.

Putin signed an Internet filtering law aimed at “protecting the children” from harmful content in July 2012. But Wired reported court decisions were extending the Single Register of banned sites created by that measure to include political speech by opponents of the Putin regime, and that Russia was relying on Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) to enforce the blacklist.

Russian politicians are currently considering whether to add swearing to the ‘won’t someone think of the children’ blacklist which would block websites that don’t censor swearing. Now watch your fuckin’ mouth, or Edward may not be able to read this in the near future.

This is all very ironic and amusing given that, in The Guardian’s debut profile of Edward Snowden, he claimed to be a proponent of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and has denounced the United States’ supposed policing of the internet.

http://bobcesca.thedailybanter.com/blog-archives/2013/08/russia-grants-snowden-asylum-implements-sopa-on-same-day.html

Libertarian Leaker Snowden was just full of "denouncements" until he became Putin's Propaganda Puppet that is.

[Bluenorthwest]

114. Cesca's attacks on Lt Dan Choi were so deeply dishonest and filled with name calling

that I simply will not read him anymore and those who cite him get credit for citing a buffoon who attacked LGBT activists constantly while we attempt to get full and equal right in this superstitious and hateful country. While we faced the likes of Fred Phelps, Cesca's method was to join in on the name calling 'from the center' and rather than defend us from attacks, he launched attacks of his own. He who did nothing for us jabbered and libeled us endlessly for having the guts to stand up and take what is ours.
Barf, barf and barf again.

[libodem]

58. Go figure

[unreadierLizard]

70. Incoming NSA

robot defenders.

[AppleBottom]

92. Wow, talk about hitting a new low.

These animals have no shame and will do or say anything to keep power.

[4bucksagallon]

104. The edit was right he is a traitor.

[Ichingcarpenter]

105. kick nominated...... didn't see this post

[fascisthunter]

116. this government is pathetic

and their true blue enabling apologists are even lower.

[Scurrilous]

121. NO!! Not his wikpedia page!!1!

Someone changed something on the internet..Democracy!! Finished!!

[KansDem]

123. Isn't time to RICO the Senate?

What a mess of corporate stooges and lackies...

on edit: In fact, RICO the House and Supreme Court, too!

[ancianita]

129. I think $50 million spent conducting 40 theatrical votes qualifies the House for that, as well. nt

[gulliver]

130. Probably just another "Snowden" type...

...using guest wireless access or going through a shared proxy. This version of Snowden is the one who feels deeply in his or her conscience that Snowden is being unduly shielded from accurate criticism by anti-Constitutional forces.