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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:01 AM Jul 2013

President Obama: George W. Bush Not As Bad A President As People Make Him Out To Be

July 10, 2013 By Allen Clifton

On Tuesday while speaking in front of reporters, President Obama was presented with a question about his predecessor’s reputation as being “one of the worst presidents in history.”

His response was fairly shocking. President Obama responded by saying, “President George W. Bush wasn’t as bad a president as people make him out to be. He did a lot of great things for our economy, national security and national debt.”

A stunned room of reporters seemed taken back by Obama’s remarks. Well, all except those from Fox News who seemed to eagerly agree with them.

Following the remarks, right-wing media pundits jumped on the opportunity to praise President Obama for his “honesty.” Rush Limbaugh said, “I always knew President Obama was a man of integrity and intelligence.” While Glenn Beck chimed in claiming, “President Obama epitomizes what it is to be a “Constitutional American.”

But perhaps no comments were more shocking that those of Fox News personality Sean Hannity who said, “President Obama a great leader and a wonderful president, and I wish he could run in 2016 so I could cast my vote for Team Obama.”

Right now, I know what most of you are thinking, “There’s no way any of this is true.”

And you’d be right. First, let me apologize to those who’ve got this far, because nothing in this article is true. So while this isn’t a real story, congratulations — you’re not one of the individuals who allows themselves to be easily manipulated by misleading headlines. You don’t form assumptions based on reading only a headline and maybe the first paragraph of an article.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/president-obama-george-w-bush/

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President Obama: George W. Bush Not As Bad A President As People Make Him Out To Be (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 OP
Thank You For Sharing - Maybe The Apt Phrase - Birds Of A Feather Flock Together - Applies cantbeserious Jul 2013 #1
.......... ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #6
Thank You For Sharing - Best Not To Assume That DU Members Always Post Truthful Articles cantbeserious Jul 2013 #10
Not the point Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #20
Thank You For Sharing An Insult - My Feeble Brain Works Well Enough cantbeserious Jul 2013 #22
That's obvious to the most casual observer Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #25
Thank You For Sharing Your Second Insult - We Know What You Are Made Of Now cantbeserious Jul 2013 #28
Why is it an insult? Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #47
Thank You For Sharing Insult Number Three - Seems Some Don't Know When To Quit cantbeserious Jul 2013 #81
Since this is the fourth time you have done it in one thread, I have to tell you something. tblue37 Jul 2013 #114
You're welcome. ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #106
Could be the NSA's cyclezealot Jul 2013 #71
Got another one! The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #73
There are several issues where I have to ask myself, why is President Obama doing this? enough Jul 2013 #2
Read. The. Article. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #5
You. Are. Right. I should stay away from the internet at one in the morning. (nt) enough Jul 2013 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #116
............ ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #7
The issue is ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #3
I got to the third paragraph and glanced down to see if it was the Onion magellan Jul 2013 #4
ALWAYS read the whole thing. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #8
Um, yeah, I got that by reading the whole article before commenting. n/t magellan Jul 2013 #13
Not just on headlines--but sometimes on the headline and tblue37 Jul 2013 #115
Definitely read like an Onion article. I was prepping myself to call the website's credibility into BenzoDia Jul 2013 #75
Same here madokie Jul 2013 #93
what's funny is before reading the article, I assumed the headline was true quinnox Jul 2013 #9
Yes He Has - Thank You For Validating My Feeble Memory cantbeserious Jul 2013 #14
and thus you prove the article's point.... dionysus Jul 2013 #15
And does over and over and over and over and over.... Number23 Jul 2013 #26
The real point is, Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #90
well played mister Clifton! dionysus Jul 2013 #11
Funny, non true story nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #12
no shit nadinstrodamus... nt dionysus Jul 2013 #16
^^Does anyone remember the old 'ability to follow directions' exercise^^ Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #17
Yes! magellan Jul 2013 #19
Yes! One of the directions for us was something like say your ABCs backwards. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #76
I read it to the end. Apophis Jul 2013 #18
W was a zero IMO, but what would be the upside of a controversy about Mr Obama's opinion of him? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #21
Read the whole article, not just the headline. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #23
:) struggle4progress Jul 2013 #70
... never mind ... struggle4progress Jul 2013 #78
Heh. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #24
Did someone set their calendar back to early April? leveymg Jul 2013 #27
This OP and about half the reactions to it really explain half the Snowden threads in GD NuclearDem Jul 2013 #29
Not just that - it happens with almost any controversial issue. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #31
It's the propagandist's dream, knowing that people won't take the time to read NuclearDem Jul 2013 #35
They've been conditioning the entire nation into this state of manic illiteracy Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #59
It's called a knee jerk reaction davidpdx Jul 2013 #65
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #79
I knew it was wrong the moment I read it LittleBlue Jul 2013 #30
What's shady about the source? HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #33
Forwardprogressives.com? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #36
It's seven very short paragraphs. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #38
Meh, I'm not blown away LittleBlue Jul 2013 #46
Actually it's more than seven HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #95
Well I'm sure they don't have your scintillating brilliance, but I think they write fairly well. HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #56
Reading comprehension failure LittleBlue Jul 2013 #121
You should, because the author's point in using a bogus headline The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #34
Like I said, looked mediocre. LittleBlue Jul 2013 #39
Actually, it wasn't mediocre. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #42
Oh it's mediocre LittleBlue Jul 2013 #48
Nevertheless, it looks like the author's point was proved The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #51
This was proven over 100 years ago when newspapers LittleBlue Jul 2013 #54
keep going this is getting good olddots Jul 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #117
LOL-thanks harvey: I bet you catch a few NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #32
It's not something he says, it's something he induces other people to say. kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #37
Did you read the whole article? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #40
Yes, I read it enough to know it was shinola kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #43
and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker too... dionysus Jul 2013 #41
You should re-read my post. kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #50
Right. He tortured, started unnecessary wars, collapsed the economy AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #44
It would appear that you didn't read the whole article. Please do. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #45
That was AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #49
tl;dr n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #52
I was looking for a link to the Onion. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #53
Nicely done bhikkhu Jul 2013 #55
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!?!? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #57
Got another one! NuclearDem Jul 2013 #60
yep. I read it to about the second paragraph. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #62
I couldn't wrap my head around that shit.. I kept reading Cha Jul 2013 #67
Ha--this is so true; I've seen so many people get MADem Jul 2013 #58
This reminds me of when articles on studies are posted AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #63
Of course it's satire. Who would even consider Obama associating with a murderer and torturer? Lint Head Jul 2013 #64
See what Twitter has done to people? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Fearless Jul 2013 #68
Not sure there's enough value in this OP No Vested Interest Jul 2013 #69
Desperate? GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #72
Heh, called BS by the second paragraph. Interest point however. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #74
A failure by Journalists as well. snort Jul 2013 #77
Excellent point think Jul 2013 #83
That's bullshit. Obama only that said president Bush think Jul 2013 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #82
I knew it WASN'T true from the headline. Obama and Bush are a mutual forestpath Jul 2013 #84
True, it would be uncharacteristic of Obama to be so blunt about a Republican Fumesucker Jul 2013 #91
This article has exposed a lot of people quick to criticize the President AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #85
There were swings and misses from both sides of the plate.... think Jul 2013 #87
BWAHAHAHAHAH!!! burnodo Jul 2013 #86
I see. 99Forever Jul 2013 #88
Hilarious and oh so true. nt sufrommich Jul 2013 #89
Oh, brother. AS IF a "Gotcha" article is clever. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #92
Ya got a lot of them n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #94
It might be techincally true... WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #96
aaaaaaaand it looks like I fell for it too! WatermelonRat Jul 2013 #97
Only thing I can say is, you should have stuck with the 4 paragraph Autumn Jul 2013 #98
I considered it HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #100
That does seem to happen. I confess to just reading Autumn Jul 2013 #101
A lesson for us all.. Peacetrain Jul 2013 #102
I read the first paragraph and then scrolled to the link thinking it was the onion xiamiam Jul 2013 #103
Since Obama has only been candid about his admiration for Reagan but not Bush, it could not be true. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #104
Another who obviously did not read it all HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #105
No, dummy, the post doesn't indicate that at all. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #107
In fairness to those who don't always read ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #108
That is absolutely correct rock Jul 2013 #109
We are living the sequel to "Animal Farm" mick063 Jul 2013 #110
Telling about you, not Obama. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #119
lol! bunnies Jul 2013 #111
While giving junior credit for doing great things for our economy (crashed), national indepat Jul 2013 #112
Got another one. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #118
Just read the entire article. Oops, my bad for being duped and remembering the recent photo of indepat Jul 2013 #123
Satire. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #113
Not exactly - the author's point is that people don't read whole articles The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #120
This is the most awesome thread in a long time arely staircase Jul 2013 #122
I don't know about that HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #124

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
6. ..........
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jul 2013
Right now, I know what most of you are thinking, “There’s no way any of this is true.”

And you’d be right. First, let me apologize to those who’ve got this far, because nothing in this article is true. So while this isn’t a real story, congratulations — you’re not one of the individuals who allows themselves to be easily manipulated by misleading headlines. You don’t form assumptions based on reading only a headline and maybe the first paragraph of an article
.

Cirque du So-What

(26,044 posts)
20. Not the point
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:15 AM
Jul 2013

That whooshing noise you hear is the real point, which is sailing over your head. Give it a little think; it'll come to you.

Cirque du So-What

(26,044 posts)
25. That's obvious to the most casual observer
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:24 AM
Jul 2013

OP gets posted at 1:01, your conclusion-jumping reply gets posted at 1:04. Either you read the whole shitaree and then typed out your thoughtful reply at a pace that would make Mavis Beacon proud. Or else you read the first couple of paragraphs and jumped right into the diatribe. Either way, it was pretty fast. Congratulations all around!

Cirque du So-What

(26,044 posts)
47. Why is it an insult?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:41 AM
Jul 2013

What about it is untrue? Jumping to conclusions is nothing to be ashamed of; people do it every day. The failure rate for the 'ability to follow directions test' is probably very high, as people see what they want to see and disregard what they consider irrelevant to the task at hand, which, in this case, obviously, is chiming in before getting all the facts. That's what you did; own it.

Oh, and for the record, I never said anything about your mind. I'm sure it works just fine. Is it an insult to dare mentioning what you actually did? Speaking of insults...'we know what you are made of now' looks suspiciously like you're working up an insult of your own, like the thoracic rumblings preceding the hocking of a loogie. Don't hold back if you feel compelled to let one fly.

tblue37

(65,557 posts)
114. Since this is the fourth time you have done it in one thread, I have to tell you something.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jul 2013

[font size = "+1"]You should put that "eom" (or an "nt&quot into the subject line of your post.[/font]

The whole point of including "eom" ("end of message&quot or "nt" (no text) is to considerately let the reader know that the subject line is all there is to the post.

In other words, "eom" indicates that there is no further message in the message box, so the reader shouldn't waste his/her time clicking the message open to read more text that is not there.

By putting "eom" in the message box, you defeat the entire purpose of using the abbreviation.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
71. Could be the NSA's
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:04 AM
Jul 2013

Booz Allen has been taping into the Oval Office phone lines . Bribery often puts unlike souls into the same nest.

enough

(13,273 posts)
2. There are several issues where I have to ask myself, why is President Obama doing this?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:04 AM
Jul 2013

This is another one.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
7. ............
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jul 2013
Right now, I know what most of you are thinking, “There’s no way any of this is true.”

And you’d be right. First, let me apologize to those who’ve got this far, because nothing in this article is true. So while this isn’t a real story, congratulations — you’re not one of the individuals who allows themselves to be easily manipulated by misleading headlines. You don’t form assumptions based on reading only a headline and maybe the first paragraph of an article.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
4. I got to the third paragraph and glanced down to see if it was the Onion
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:05 AM
Jul 2013

Stymied there, I read further. Glad I did. Whew.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,051 posts)
8. ALWAYS read the whole thing.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:07 AM
Jul 2013

The author's entire point is that too many people base their opinions on headlines. The posts here so far (and elsewhere on DU, on a regular basis) prove that point nicely.

tblue37

(65,557 posts)
115. Not just on headlines--but sometimes on the headline and
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

just the first few lines or paragraphs of an article. In this case, even the first few paragraphs would have mislead the reader.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
75. Definitely read like an Onion article. I was prepping myself to call the website's credibility into
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:21 AM
Jul 2013

question.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
93. Same here
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:31 AM
Jul 2013

The headline made me think it was the onion. I like reading the onion so I read this all the way through.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
9. what's funny is before reading the article, I assumed the headline was true
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jul 2013

because Obama has praised Reagan for example, in the past.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
90. The real point is,
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:49 AM
Jul 2013

if Obama had clearly and unmistakably distanced himself from his predecessor, a lot of us would be saying to the headline of this article. Instead, he has retained or otherwise included way too many Republicans in his administration (the people we thought we were voting out of power) and has also retained some of the very worst of the bu$h policies. On top of that, he even likened himself to a "moderate 1980s Republican" and during his first campaign seemingly had more praise for Ronald Freakin' Reagan than for some of the Democratic icons like John F. and Robert Kennedy. So when a headline like this comes out, it is natural for some of the more liberal members here to say "It figures".

Cirque du So-What

(26,044 posts)
17. ^^Does anyone remember the old 'ability to follow directions' exercise^^
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jul 2013

that starts out, 'read everything before doing anything,' then gives a numbered list of nonsensical assignments, and ends with, 'only do #1'? From the look of things, some would perform poorly.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
76. Yes! One of the directions for us was something like say your ABCs backwards.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:24 AM
Jul 2013

I remember various people getting to that part at different times. hehe

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
18. I read it to the end.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jul 2013

Most people don't. MSNBC did a story about this about a month ago that most people never read a whole article. I'm guilty of that at times also.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
21. W was a zero IMO, but what would be the upside of a controversy about Mr Obama's opinion of him?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:18 AM
Jul 2013

He said the right thing

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. This OP and about half the reactions to it really explain half the Snowden threads in GD
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:29 AM
Jul 2013

Step 1: Read title

Step 2: Read two paragraphs

Step 3: ???

Step 4: JUDGMENT!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,051 posts)
31. Not just that - it happens with almost any controversial issue.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:33 AM
Jul 2013

And it also explains why so many satirical pieces - particularly the lame ones from The Daily Currant - are posted with breathless snorts of outrage because the poster didn't read enough, or think enough, to figure out it was satire!

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
59. They've been conditioning the entire nation into this state of manic illiteracy
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jul 2013

for at least three generations now, for just that purpose.

American's will buy, literally, anything presented to them through whatever media they've come to identify with (and that's a whole other topic), especially TV.

Buy the endorsement of some celebrities and a four wall ad campaign, and they will not only buy cat piss flavored salad dressing, but convince themselves that acquiring the taste is a sign of a sophisticated palate.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
30. I knew it was wrong the moment I read it
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jul 2013

Saw a shady source, then googled the quote and couldn't find it elsewhere.

Not reading beyond the fake quote.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
36. Forwardprogressives.com?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jul 2013

Sounds like another political rah rah site, filled with the usual mediocre writing by mediocre bloggers. No thanks.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
46. Meh, I'm not blown away
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jul 2013

I knew that quote was fake. A quote that shocking would have been quoted elsewhere.

That it was an intentionally a mind game is amateurish work of a jumped up blogger.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
56. Well I'm sure they don't have your scintillating brilliance, but I think they write fairly well.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:59 AM
Jul 2013

You've just proved the author's point, BTW.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,051 posts)
34. You should, because the author's point in using a bogus headline
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jul 2013

is that people too often base their opinions on headlines without ever reading the entire article.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
48. Oh it's mediocre
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:44 AM
Jul 2013

The trick was what, to prove that people believe what's in a headline? Okay, but most don't expect to have fabricated quotes in headlines. That's why the first thing I always do is to check the source, and it was smelly indeed.

90%+ of the blog garbage posted at DU is well... garbage. Throw this one on the heap.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,051 posts)
51. Nevertheless, it looks like the author's point was proved
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:47 AM
Jul 2013

repeatedly, just in this thread. Because of your obviously superior intelligence, however, you were not duped. Congratulations.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
54. This was proven over 100 years ago when newspapers
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:53 AM
Jul 2013

were first printed. Ever hear of yellow journalism? The British tabloids do it all the time. The Mirror faked an interview with one of the biggest athletes in the world a year or two ago.

Welcome to the 1800s, mister super clever blogger.

Response to olddots (Reply #61)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
44. Right. He tortured, started unnecessary wars, collapsed the economy
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:39 AM
Jul 2013

stole 40% of the middle classes wealth, and a jillion other crimes...but he wasn't a bad president.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
57. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!?!?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jul 2013

This is obviously Obama being a politician because there's no way he believes that.

Cha

(298,193 posts)
67. I couldn't wrap my head around that shit.. I kept reading
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:53 AM
Jul 2013

.. looking for sources! Anything to tell me this was not so!

PBO praised bush for his contribution to helping AIDs in Africa. that's is far as it goes. And, that, of course, upset some people on DU.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Ha--this is so true; I've seen so many people get
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jul 2013

wrapped around the axle owing to a headline; when the headline doesn't tell the whole--or even part of the--story.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
63. This reminds me of when articles on studies are posted
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:29 AM
Jul 2013

People read the headlines and maybe the first paragraph or two, and they don't care about seeing the methodology and seeing how big the study was or other things that could lend credibility to the study. I always try to read into each study I see to evaluate its validity and on how I can effectively interpret and make use of the findings. You have to be careful in what you put in your mind, as if you put junk in it it only leads to bad decisions.

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
69. Not sure there's enough value in this OP
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:56 AM
Jul 2013

to warrant posting it.
Especially not in GD.
Entertainment, maybe, but not even there.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
74. Heh, called BS by the second paragraph. Interest point however.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:19 AM
Jul 2013

Reminds me of a test we took in middle school where we were asked to read all of the problems before starting. The last question instructed us to skip all the previous ones.

I think everyone failed

snort

(2,334 posts)
77. A failure by Journalists as well.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:32 AM
Jul 2013

Its been near 40 years but if I remember my Journalism 101, the first paragraph of a news article should sum up the entirety of the story. What follows provides additional details if required.

It's fairly obvious why.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
80. That's bullshit. Obama only that said president Bush
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:19 AM
Jul 2013

should vet the sources in an article and corroborate those facts with other sources if possible. He added that some journalistic posers will even provide false links to non existing or fraudulent sources.

Obama also told him to make sure any testimonies are from "reliable sources". Too often a "source" is a political hack that claims to be an unbiased and neutral source when in reality they are a paid corporate shill.

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
84. I knew it WASN'T true from the headline. Obama and Bush are a mutual
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:09 AM
Jul 2013

admiration society these days and I think Obama wouldn't say anything about Bush that implies criticism the way the term "not as bad" does.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
88. I see.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jul 2013

So does this mean that the NSA isn't really spying on millions of law-abiding Americans in violation of the 4th Amendment?

Does it mean Gitmo actually is closed?

Does it means there actually is a public option available to all in the ACA?

Does it mean that those Wall Street crooks responsible for crashing the economy and driving millions into poverty are in prison?

There are more things us dumbass "liberal" gullible types must have been "fooled" into believing, eh?



It never ceases to amaze me the extent of insult some people will use to try and silence dissent of really SHITTY policies when it's "their guy" doing them.

Shame on you.

WatermelonRat

(340 posts)
96. It might be techincally true...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jul 2013

...in regards to the people who view him as an outright supervillain, but he was still a pretty lousy president. Maybe not the absolute worst, but definitely in the bottom five or so.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
100. I considered it
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jul 2013

but considering the number of people that responded without reading all that I posted, how many more would not have clicked on the link to the article? It's fairly obvious that a lot of those who read all I posted never clicked on the link to read the rest.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
101. That does seem to happen. I confess to just reading
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jul 2013

just what was in the OP a couple of times. I learned LOL

Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
102. A lesson for us all..
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

read before you write.. do not just look for buzz words that will play into a preconception.. we all carry those around.. the hackles went up on my back before I read the entire post.. job well done

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
103. I read the first paragraph and then scrolled to the link thinking it was the onion
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jul 2013

well..hoping it was from the onion.. then I went back and read the article thinking, this is nuts as I read it .. then I read the last paragraph ...lol ..it wouldn't surprise me however if it was true.. nothing surprises me anymore..

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
104. Since Obama has only been candid about his admiration for Reagan but not Bush, it could not be true.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jul 2013

Instead of being plain spoken regarding his thoughts about Bush, he has merely adopted top-level Bush appointees and adopted the Bush policies that he's admired.

Actions speak louder than words. He doesn't need to expressly describe his admiration for Bush, Bush personnel, and Bush policies.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
107. No, dummy, the post doesn't indicate that at all.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jul 2013

At most, the post indicates that it wasn't necessary to read the entire post. It does not indicate that the post was not read in its entirety.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
108. In fairness to those who don't always read
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jul 2013

an OP and article through - there is a lot of bad writing that passes as journalism. Some writers think that if 100 words will suffice they should 1,000. Sometimes the writing is terrible. I've seen many articles that go all around the barn and back to make a damn point.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
110. We are living the sequel to "Animal Farm"
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jul 2013

Regardless if the author can legitimately fool us or not.

It is telling that I believed every word until I discovered the "joke".

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
111. lol!
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

I actually made it through the whole thing without so much as looking for an onion link. Well played, Mr. Clifton. Well played.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
112. While giving junior credit for doing great things for our economy (crashed), national
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:10 PM
Jul 2013

security (ignored August 6 intelligence brief warning of imminent terraist attack), and national debt (mushroomed), curiously missing is junior's possibly greatest initiative (launching a permanent pre-emptive war of aggression featuring torture, massive destruction, unparalleled cost in treasure and American limbs and brain parts, and possibly one million Iraqi deaths). If giving credit, why not give full credit when credit is due? Let's all praise the power and glory of George W. Bush.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
123. Just read the entire article. Oops, my bad for being duped and remembering the recent photo of
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jul 2013

junior walking next to the President while in S. Africa.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,051 posts)
120. Not exactly - the author's point is that people don't read whole articles
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jul 2013

but instead base their opinions on headlines, which can be, and often are, misleading or downright wrong. If you just assume the headline and first few paragraphs to be true without reading any farther, you might be inclined to froth with outrage (as a number of posters in this thread have done). Many articles and essays are a lot more nuanced than their headlines (which are often not written by the author) would suggest. It's better not to board the outrage train until you know exactly what an author is saying.

So this article is not really satirical; the writer is making a point about how so many people have become lazy readers who are inclined to jump to conclusions before they know what the conclusion really is.

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