Song of the south.....

[Rebellious Republican]

I grew up in the south and it seems to me that us southerners have gotten a bad rap. I just wanted to remind everyone that there was some very influential musicians that have become associated with rednecks. Well we all know rednecks are not to bright and their memories are short. If people took the time to listen to some of the old southern musicians and rockers they might be surprised. To steal a line from Molly Hatchet, The way you judge a man, is to look into his sole. Just an old southerners perspective.

What, some old southern guys talkin bout weed...

How about a group of long haired southern hippies singin bout racial inequality, environmentalism, gun control and anti war....

Oh and hear is an in your face total Anti war protest song from some more southern rebels....

[charlyvi]

1. It's soul, not sole.

And too, not to. I live in the South too.

[Rebellious Republican]

3. Thanks charlyvi

My bad, I went to high school in a county that only had one high school, did not draw the best and brightest teachers.

[NoPasaran]

14. If you want to judge a man's sole, walk a mile in his shoes

[bluedeathray]

72. Beat me to it! nt

[HereSince1628]

29. but it worked, diamonds on the soles of yer shoes are a measure of a person

according to Paul Simon...

Ta na na
Ta na na na

[reflection]

92. W looked into a sole once.

[etherealtruth]

2. The Allman Brothers had my heart

The others .... not so much

[Rebellious Republican]

4. I agree, I live in Florida, I could have named a whole slew of bands and songs.

The allman Brothers were from Daytona Beach, Molly Hatchet, Jacksonville, The Outlaws Tampa. The list goes on. Post one of your fav Allman Brothers tunes with regards to the thought.

[etherealtruth]

6. Tied to the Whipping Post

and/or Melissa

I am an old woman ... I loved "Eat a Peach"

(I was ten in "72)

[Rebellious Republican]

21. I was 12!

Then you would be a Dickey Betts fan as well, he wrote Tied to the whipping post for the Allman brothers.

[etherealtruth]

32. Oh, yeah!

[Rebellious Republican]

5. Here is one of my favorites from the Allman Brothers...

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[rdharma]

7. Charlie Daniels was a Republican cheerleader for the Iraq war.

[Rebellious Republican]

9. Yep you are right and must be young.

Because you do not remember the young CD before he got religion.

[rdharma]

16. Doesn't matter what he was....... matters what he IS NOW.

Same goes for Ted Nugent and Alice Cooper.

[Rebellious Republican]

24. Yep, again he is a washed up old fossil now. But in his day he did influence a generation,

I am a product of that influence, so I guess that means I don't matter? Gee if you don't want me to vote for liberal democrats just say so. ppfff

[rdharma]

26. I used to like CD and and I used to like Nugent (Amboy Dukes period) and Cooper.......

But they're dead to me since they turned into Republican puppets.

[Rebellious Republican]

31. I can understand that....

I do not listen to any of his newer stuff either. But I do a mean Karaoke of Long Haired Country Boy and Uneasy Rider.

[rdharma]

34. And put Kid Rock in that group of musicians I can't stand!

[KamaAina]

80. Surprise! Kid Rock's from Michigan

as is Ted Nugent. And Bob Seger. Who it turns out is also a winger.

[rdharma]

86. I didn't know Bob Seger was a RW nut.......

Got a link or info to show me that? I'd be very disappointed if that's true.

He's a "has been"...... but I expected better of him.

[KamaAina]

88. I didn't, either

http://www.thearkansasproject.com/republican-rock-stars/

Republican Rock Stars...


Bob Seger (Buchananite, anti-U.N., as noted in articles and ostensibly hinted in songs like “Lock and Load”)

[rdharma]

90. Thanks for the link

I've never heard "Lock and Load". Must have been a big hit!

[etherealtruth]

10. Yeah well, Ted Nugent is from the north

(I will not mention any state name to avoid bringing further shame to the un-named state)

Nugent can out knuckle drag and nut-job just about anyone

[rdharma]

18. "Motor City Madman" might be a clue. nt

[KamaAina]

78. He rocked hard right up through Million Mile Reflections.

that's the one with The Devil Went Down to Georgia on it.

After that he went full-on batshit teahadist insane.

[Hoyt]

8. As much as I love music, not much for bands with confederate flags and such.

[Rebellious Republican]

12. Just goes to show that people judge people not by what they are saying....

but what they perceive from outward appearances. Happens a lot unfortunately, here what comes to mind when you see this...

[rdharma]

20. These bands INTENTIONALLY try to portray that image.

So don't tell me I'm unfairly judging them!

And what do I see looking at Limbaugh ..... a pig!

[Rebellious Republican]

35. Here is a poem, what do you think about its content?

A king without a sword - a land without a king -
A truth without a voice - one song left to sing...
One song to sing.
A wise man told me theres something you should know:
The way you judge a man is you look into his soul
And youll soon see everything.
A voice from the past cried, Give peace a chance!
He paid our price now hes free at last; And imagine -
We called him a dreamer.
How many times must good men die?
How many tears will the children cry...
Till we suffer no more sadness?
Stop the madness.
Oh, stop the madness.
If ashes are ashes and dust is dust,
At our journeys end, then we turn to rust -
To the sands of the shore.
White doves in flight - peace to war -
But, tell me why the peacemakers fall.
Must we bury any more?
The hush of the crowd as the horse rode by -
The black lace veil hid her tears from my eyes...
And we all wept in silence.
How many times must good men die?
How many times will the children cry...
Till they suffer no more sadness?
Oh, stop the madness.
Oh, stop all the madness.

[rdharma]

39. Fall Of The Peacemakers - Molly Hatchet nt

[Rebellious Republican]

15. Thanks, I appreciate the senitments.

And a pic from my town... peace be with you...

[NightWatcher]

13. Forget Skynyrd & Daniels. What about James Brown, Little Richard, REM

Drivin N Cryin, Indigo Girls, Outkast, Otis Redding....

Those are all acts from Georgia alone.

[Rebellious Republican]

17. Oh you forgot the B-52's....

[NightWatcher]

19. Could never would never. I used to live in Athens

I just didn't think everyone would know who I was talking about.

[Rebellious Republican]

27. Well I am from the south and also am old school!

[NightWatcher]

30. College started 20 years ago next month

Don't feel so much old skool as just plain old. So much has changed up there.

And the damned kids won't stay off my lawn.

[Rebellious Republican]

33. DAAMNNN, you went to colage, you musta had a rich famalee.

My only choice was the military.

[Bluenorthwest]

95. B-52s rock and rule, Fred Kate and Cindy, Keith and Ricky

That's who you are talking about. Saw them a few times, they blew the roof off the Hollywood Palladium back when....

[Hoyt]

23. +1

[Arugula Latte]

54. I've got music playing and the second I started reading your post REM's "Pilgrimage" came on.

Love them.

[NightWatcher]

56. I almost broke up REM in 97 or 98

I was quickly pulling into a parking space on Clayton St right across from Wuxtry (a record store in downtown Athens), when a red headed dude had stepped out of his van and was in the middle of the parking space I was rapidly entering. He jumped back as I squealed the brakes. I apologized profusely and then realized it was Mike Mills that I almost hit hard. I said something like "oh fuck I almost hit REM"

That was the time I almost killed REM

[Arugula Latte]

74. I'm glad you didn't hit him!

But if you had, luckily they'd put out their best work years before that ...

[Rebellious Republican]

60. Love REM, takes me back!

This is the one that does it for me.....

[steve2470]

22. thanks for this from a fellow Southerner and...

your username is a riddle or joke, yes ?

[Rebellious Republican]

25. Neither.

I left the republican party in the late 90's and stumbled across this place a few years later. I was searching for a place that my heart and beliefs belonged. People here welcomed me and long story made short, I found out were I belonged. I used the handle because I wanted other republicans that were searching to know that it was OK to switch and to piss off TROLLS from FR.

[steve2470]

28. ty for the explanation ! nt

[Carnage251]

36. Yeah Skynyrd!!!

[Rebellious Republican]

40. Did you even listen to a single word? Probably not.

Smartass whats in the middle?

[Carnage251]

46. Woo Skynyrd!

I respect their strength for saying fuck you to the "PC liberal" crowd and media because they stood up for the flag of Dixie.

[Rebellious Republican]

48. Do you know any history about Ronnie Van Zant and Neil young?

Thats whats been lost on you young people. Here is a history lesson, if you have the attention span beyond a nat, click on the link, and OMG read. I am an old dude and know about Skynyrd from being there.

http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2010/02/ronnie-and-neil-laying-to-rest-feud.html

On Edit: This is from a Neil Young Fan site. Guys give it up if you were only a wet dream in the seventies and the best part of you ran down your daddies leg at conception.

[RebelOne]

104. I do not care what the Neil Young fans say on that site.

I still love Ronnie Van Zant and Lynard Skynyrd, and I have always loved Neil Young's music. Who cares about their politics. It is the music I like.

[Rebellious Republican]

105. My point exactly RO.

[Nevernose]

53. Forgive him, Lord

He knows not what he speaks about. He hasn't listened to the songs, and don't even read to the end of the article he linked to, nor can he be bothered with a simple Wikipedia entry.

Pretty sure that's the book of Timothy, but it might be Matthew.

[Rebellious Republican]

61. So whats your point?

[Nevernose]

65. Honestly, and respectfully:

I'm not sure what your point was, originally.

I mean, if you have a problem with post-crash Skynyrd, then say so. If you have a problem with pre-crash Skynyrd, say so please. But as it stands and as best I can tell, you have a problem with a group of people not because of what they believe, but because of a potentially misunderstood symbology, a symbology potentially misunderstood both by you and the band under discussion.

On edit: I misunderstood whom I was replying to. I thought when I wrote this I was answering Carnage251. I thought my point was clear: Lynyrd Skyrd as originally envisioned were a bunch of awesome Southwrn hippies who, generally speaking, represent the exact same shot that Democrats do. You posted the links to prove it yourself

[Carnage251]

93. Try Mozilla Firefox it has a "check spelling" feature that helps correct spelling errors

[Nevernose]

94. It's the goddamned iPad

Which seems to correct things even without my input.

[Carnage251]

91. As a black man who has lived in the south the majority of my life I can't listen to them

I don't give a fuck about their substance I can't stand their racist symbolism.
Do you have any other bones to pick or should I tell you some of my past racist experiences with the confederate battle flag the south will rise again squad?

Also I didn't link any articles you should really pay more attention.

[Rebellious Republican]

106. Why not post some links, I am not opposed to informative reading.

I have enjoyed my journey here at DU for the last 12 years.

If I did not want to grow as a human being and wanted to remain ignorant I would go to FR where free thought are not promoted.

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”

Do recognize the author of those quotes?

[Hoyt]

76. Bigot Bands are not on my play list, although I have a bunch of Neil Young.

[Elwood P Dowd]

37. I bet nobody here remembers The Swingin' Medallions.

Use to listen to them in Panama City, Florida during the 1964-66 era. Anybody remember 'Double Shot'? Popular song from The Hangout back in those days.

[Rebellious Republican]

42. You got me there.....

Had to google that one...

[Elwood P Dowd]

50. The were big in certain parts of the south (PC & B'Ham) and at college frat parties.

Double Shot made the Top 100 charts -- 17th was the high. I still have the LP I purchased in 1966.

[Rebellious Republican]

52. Given up your age Elwood.....

I think we come from a different time and place. People (Young) do not understand what really happened back in the day. How many people stood up to the establishment. Not so much anymore I guess.

[Elwood P Dowd]

55. Yep. When I was stationed in Washington, DC (Army) I attended the big anti-war rally

there in April 1971. Crowd was estimated at 200,000. Even some of us in the Army that didn't have duty participated in civies and despite our short hair. A couple of my friends wore wigs.

[Spirochete]

67. Sure I do

was one of the first 45's I ever bought, I was 12. It had some instrumental on the flip side.

[Hoyt]

77. Heard them numerous times. Great stuff -- Double shot of my baby's love.

[BradinSC]

107. They are still playing

You can see them in Greenwood, SC regularly and around the southeast. Pretty much every couple of months at Stokies just below Lander University.

[Rebellious Republican]

41. Come on DG, who has not heard of Nina Simone?

Musicians who have cited Simone as important for their own musical upbringing include Antony and the Johnsons, Nick Cave, Van Morrison, Christina Aguilera, Elkie Brooks, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Kanye West, Lena Horne, Bono, John Legend, Elizabeth Fraser, Cat Stevens, Anna Calvi, Peter Gabriel, Maynard James Keenan, Rood Adeo, Cedric Bixler-Zavala, Mary J. Blige, Michael Gira, Angela McCluskey, Lauryn Hill, Patrice Babatunde, Alicia Keys, Ian MacKaye, Kerry Brothers, Jr. "Krucial", Amanda Palmer, Steve Adey and Jeff Buckley.[18][44][45][46][47] John Lennon cited Simone's version of "I Put a Spell on You" as a source of inspiration for the Beatles song "Michelle".[47] Musicians who have covered her work (or her specific renditions of songs) include Black Rock Coalition Orchestra, J.viewz, Carola, Aretha Franklin, Janis Joplin, Marilyn Manson, Donny Hathaway, David Bowie, Elkie Brooks, Roberta Flack, Jeff Buckley, Kimbra, The Animals, Nick Cave, Shivaree (band), Ambrosia Parsley, Muse, Cat Power, Katie Melua, Timbaland, Feist, Shara Worden, Common, Lil Wayne, Michael Bublé, and Meshell Ndegeocello. Simone's music has been featured in soundtracks of various motion pictures and video games, including but not limited to, The Big Lebowski (1998), Point of No Return (AKA The Assassin, 1993),"La Femme Nikita" (film) Notting Hill (1999), Any Given Sunday (1999), The Thomas Crown Affair (1999), Six Feet Under (2001), The Dancer Upstairs (film) (2002), Before Sunset (2004), Cellular (2004), Inland Empire (2006), Miami Vice (2006), Sex and the City (2008), The World Unseen (2008), Revolutionary Road (2008), Watchmen (2009), The Saboteur (2009), Repo Men (2010). Frequently her music is used in remixes, commercials, and TV series including "Feeling Good" featured prominently in the Season Four Promo of Six Feet Under, 2004. Singer-songwriter Tom Russell's homage to Nina Simone appears on his 2009 album, "Blood and Candle Smoke."
Film

RIP Nina

[Rebellious Republican]

44. Yes you are right, most probably associate her with France or elsewhere.

I heard Elvis was spotted last in a Subway hanging out with Jarred. Or was that outside of Hostess waiting for the Twinkie production to start back up


On a serious note here is one of my personal favorite sad songs by Elvis

[KamaAina]

79. You know who else was from NC? John Coltrane.

Some of the best jazz I ever heard was on NC A&T's radio station during a Greyhound layover in Greensboro.

Of course, when you think about it, jazz itself is Southern.

[Tikki]

45. To me Mr. Roger Miller was the South....

I'm from the NW and the West Coast so to me Roger Miller epitomized the Southern style.

I love his music:

also, Joe South...his name says it all:

Tikki

[Rebellious Republican]

47. Ok if you like RM here are some oldies but goodies, yet very southern fried....

[Tikki]

59. Thanks, loved his quick wit and lyric shots...

Tikki

[Rebellious Republican]

63. Sweet!!!

I must admit I had forgot about that one. Thanks for the reminder.

[HiPointDem]

57. miller was from oklahoma, though. not really the south.

[Tikki]

62. Roger: born in TX, raised in OK and careered in Nashville, his was the poster on my wall when

I was a teen and Flatt and Scruggs. They were my idea of Southern music while growing up so far away from anything Southern.

Tikki

[HiPointDem]

66. ah, i see, you're right. raised in oklahoma.

[Rebellious Republican]

68. Tikki, wow thanks!!!

Girl you made me proud. You do not know my connection with your part of the country. Fucking Awesome.!!!!

[kentuck]

84. Oklahoma not really the South?

Well, except for Alabama, I can't think of many more states that are more South than Oklahoma? I've known quite a few folks from there.

[HiPointDem]

85. i think of it as south central plains. it's certainly not part of the old south.

[nolabear]

49. I'd just like to remind all y'all children where New Orleans is.

Although I will allow it's really the Northwest Carribbean.

[Rebellious Republican]

51. You mean like these cats....

[kentuck]

58. Shoe factory burned down....

Thousand soles lost...

[Rebellious Republican]

64. Thanks for your two cents Kentuck....

By the way I grew up in Shepherdsville, Ky. You know, where men are men and sheep are nervous!!!!

[Rebellious Republican]

69. This thread is dead, let me close it with this....

,

Yes I am OK with it, are you OK with my choice of songs? Simply a lesson and an exercise in tolerance! I think that everyone has a hidden prejudice weather they know it or not.

This was just an experiment, take a look into your soul, do you like what you see?

[rdharma]

81. This was just an experiment........

... so quit waving the confederate flag. Some people find it just as offensive a symbol as the swastika!

[Elwood P Dowd]

70. Johnny Cash from Arkansas singing about the disgusting treatment of Ira Hayes.

[Major Hogwash]

71. Nice try.

Have you ever heard of Louis Prima?
A long time ago, my dad's friend used to fill in for the regular saxophone player in Louie's band whenever his regular sax player was sick.
My dad's friend only did it for a few years though.
That was when Louis played in Las Vegas at the Desert Inn hotel and set annual attendence records.

Usually music is one of those things that we can all agree on.
But, some people here are not in a very agreeable mood.
So, I appreciate the effort, just the same.

[nolabear]

73. Louis Prima was hot, Daddy!

Loved him like a mudder.

[Rebellious Republican]

75. A shameless kick for the day crew.

And another great southerner.....

[kentuck]

82. This Ol' Cowboy

[kentuck]

83. Caballo Diablo

[Rebellious Republican]

97. Both were great songs, "this ole cowboy" and "Caballo Diablo"

Along those same lines The Outlaws version of "Ghostriders"

I am a wildland firefighter, one of my former crews designed T-shirt around the lyrics we had them printed on the shirts.

"Their faces gaunt, their eyes were blurred, their shirts all soaked with sweat
They're ridin' hard to catch that herd but they 'aint caught 'em yet
'Cause they've got to ride forever in the range up in the sky
On horses snorting fire as they ride hard, hear them cry."

[kentuck]

108. Oh yeah!

The Outlaws!

[Rebellious Republican]

100. Kentuk, we can not for get a tribute to our home boys....

The Kentucky Headhunters...

And a Norman Greenbaum cover they did!

[Apophis]

87. Play Freebird!!!!!!!!!!!111111

[kwassa]

89. Rock, blues, jazz, country-western, bluegrass, cajun, zydeco, all southern inventions

all unique American musical styles originate in the South.

[Rebellious Republican]

98. While I agree with that for the most, you can't argue that Grunge, Chicago Jazz and the surfer songs

among a few others were from different areas. Gotta give props to other influences where due.

[GlashFordan]

96. Flirtin with disaster!!!!

I love Hatchet!!

[Rebellious Republican]

99. Can't forget about "Gator Country"

[DrDan]

101. "not to bright" . . . . "sole" . . . .

good heavens . . . . <slaps head>

[Rebellious Republican]

102. And your point is that I cut and pasted bad grammar?

[Boom Sound 416]

103. Thank you from a Jax native

"All I can do is write about it"

Is an anthem.

From "Jacksonville Kid" another Skynard tune

"Jacksonville, I love you
but you don't want me around

Jacksonville, I love you
And it's where I got my sound

Although I'm your outlaw
I still love my hometown"