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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:09 PM Jul 2013

Edward Snowden Honored by Ex-Intel Officials, awarded Sam Adams award

Snowden Honored by Ex-Intel Officials
July 8, 2013

Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence, an organization of former national security officials, has honored NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, praising his decision to reveal the extent of U.S. government electronic surveillance of people in the United States and around the world.

...

When secrecy is misused to hide unconstitutional activities, fealty to that oath – and higher duty as citizens of conscience – dictate support for truth-tellers who summon the courage to blow the whistle. Edward Snowden’s disclosures fit the classic definition of whistle-blowing.

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Former senior NSA executive Thomas Drake, who won the Sam Adams award in 2011, has called what Snowden did “an amazingly brave act of civil disobedience.” Drake knows whereof he speaks. As a whistleblower he reported waste, fraud, and abuse – as well as serious violations of the Fourth Amendment – through official channels and, subsequently, to a reporter. He wound up indicted under the Espionage Act.

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The invective hurled at Snowden by the corporate and government-influenced media reflects understandable embarrassment that he would dare expose the collusion of all three branches of the U.S. government in perpetrating and then covering up their abuse of the Constitution. This same collusion has thwarted all attempts to pass laws that would protect genuine truth-tellers like Snowden who see and wish to stop unconstitutional activities.

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The Sam Adams Award, named in honor of the late CIA analyst Sam Adams, has been given in previous years to truth-tellers Coleen Rowley of the FBI; Katharine Gun of British Intelligence; Sibel Edmonds of the FBI; Craig Murray, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan; Sam Provance; former U.S. Army Sergeant at Abu Ghraib; Maj. Frank Grevil of Danish Army Intelligence; Larry Wilkerson, Colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), former chief of staff to Colin Powell at State; Julian Assange of WikiLeaks; Thomas Drake, former senior NSA official; Jesselyn Radack, Director of National Security and Human Rights, Government Accountability Project; and Thomas Fingar, former Assistant Secretary of State and Director, National Intelligence Council.

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http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/08/snowden-honored-by-ex-intel-officials/


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Edward Snowden Honored by Ex-Intel Officials, awarded Sam Adams award (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
Snowden is in good company with this award. mia Jul 2013 #1
But...but....Snowdens just lying.....!!!! he's a spy!!!! Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #2
But… but… it's NOT ABOUT SNOWDEN….!!!! KittyWampus Jul 2013 #7
Well then stop making it about Snowden because apparently people are now following sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #8
Wasn't I sarcastic enough? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #9
I caught the sarcasm! DesertDiamond Jul 2013 #64
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #50
Derp, wut? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #51
Derp X2 Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #52
That will make some authoritarian DU heads explode. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #3
great..and their heads need to explode so they can get them on right again xiamiam Jul 2013 #5
Too bad. Besides, those heads have exploded so many times, there's nothing left there n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #13
When I was a little kid... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #20
I seriously doubt it hootinholler Jul 2013 #16
They're just Heathers. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #22
Hilarious Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #55
"They're just Heathers." bvar22 Jul 2013 #60
I think it looks worse on them. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #35
3..2...1... warrprayer Jul 2013 #4
K& R and thanks for the video clip marions ghost Jul 2013 #6
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #10
I'm reminded of the SNL CIA Christmas party sketch NightWatcher Jul 2013 #11
Good for him, ProSense Jul 2013 #12
Wow, Snowden = Kissinger? hootinholler Jul 2013 #18
You misunderstood. ProSense Jul 2013 #23
Don't mention Revere! They will post...the picture again! Nooooo! randome Jul 2013 #38
how does someone have time to post over 100,000 times ? Swagman Jul 2013 #59
They should have award presentations for folks like you whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #24
There is already ProSense Jul 2013 #26
Touche! Well played Pro, well played... whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #31
"Struggle4bullshit" OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #54
LMAO! Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #63
So did Obama,. not seeing much "peace" out of him,. . Civilization2 Jul 2013 #28
Wow. Congratulations are in order. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #14
How enlightening! democrank Jul 2013 #15
Everybody - pls watch it. The video and the speakers and their remarks is priceless. truedelphi Jul 2013 #17
+1 Civilization2 Jul 2013 #30
Great video. To hear their stories in their own words is priceless think Jul 2013 #42
Recommended!! felix_numinous Jul 2013 #19
Amazing. Rex Jul 2013 #21
But, but, but ... Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #25
Excellent post! MUST WATCH stuff!! Civilization2 Jul 2013 #27
Thank you for posting that! Catherina Jul 2013 #32
Thanks for the OP and the link to Consortiumnews.com Civilization2 Jul 2013 #37
Integrity in Intelligence BornLooser Jul 2013 #29
Are they saying secrecy is misused to hide unconstitutional activities? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #33
What I heard being described were abuses of power and also truedelphi Jul 2013 #44
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #34
the video is very moving and well worth watching Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #36
So, it IS about Snowden railsback Jul 2013 #39
if only this award could keep him out of prison... MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #40
I see them talk, but not any evidence of their claims. Amonester Jul 2013 #41
Obviously, being vetted by this group of amazing insiders matters enormously. proverbialwisdom Jul 2013 #43
What a searing indictment of big brother's misfeasance, if not malfeasance. indepat Jul 2013 #45
I'm sure he'll be Spirochete Jul 2013 #46
I have been impressed G_j Jul 2013 #47
oh no no, no no no no burnodo Jul 2013 #48
*breaking* Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence is really a Ron Paul front group! Dragonfli Jul 2013 #49
This is magnificent! woo me with science Jul 2013 #53
Keep up the good work, Catherina. h2ebits Jul 2013 #56
Those are patriots. Octafish Jul 2013 #57
Sam Adams award? Well, then he's clearly an alcoholic!! bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #58
I bet an honorary degree from the University of Phoenix is coming next. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #61
Thank You, Catherina! bvar22 Jul 2013 #62
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
2. But...but....Snowdens just lying.....!!!! he's a spy!!!!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jul 2013

He's a bad guy!!!!

Give us 5 minutes will come up with something else that he's awful about.

HE MAKES OBAMA LOOK BAD!!!!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Well then stop making it about Snowden because apparently people are now following
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jul 2013

your lead and decided to give him some attention. You should have stuck with the message in the first place.

Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #2)

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
5. great..and their heads need to explode so they can get them on right again
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jul 2013

well deserved and right on time. These folks know what is in danger and what the risk is unlike our resident armchair experts.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. When I was a little kid...
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jul 2013

I once shot a pellet gun into a fresh pile of cowshit in a moment of great stupidity. It went everywhere! That is the visual I have of apologists heads exploding...bullshit flying everywhere.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
22. They're just Heathers.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jul 2013

If they want to post immature and dickish comments on a public message board, all the power to them. They're the ones who look foolish.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
55. Hilarious
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:53 AM
Jul 2013

That you can you can sit in the middle of this catty subthread and make a "Heathers" reference.

Insight, get some.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
35. I think it looks worse on them.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jul 2013

Being servile to authority will make anyone look like a bunch of assholes.

It certainly reflects poorly on that clique.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. I'm reminded of the SNL CIA Christmas party sketch
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jul 2013

Everyone sits around neither confirming or denying stories that they can or cannot talk about. A bunch of spooks sitting around having a chat...I wonder who is breaking into their cars while they are in the meeting or rummaging through their jacket pockets in the coat room.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
23. You misunderstood.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jul 2013

"Wow, Snowden = Kissinger?"

I meant, his Nobel Prize hasn't change my opinion of Kissinger.

Besides, it's already established that Snowden = MLK, Rosa Parks, Paul Revere, Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, Jesus, etc.




 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. Don't mention Revere! They will post...the picture again! Nooooo!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jul 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
24. They should have award presentations for folks like you
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

The awards shows could be named 'The Propa Awards' or 'The Shillbys'...

democrank

(11,098 posts)
15. How enlightening!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

More folks realized this isn`t about genuflecting before Barack Obama, it`s about shining a light on unconstitutional activities.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
17. Everybody - pls watch it. The video and the speakers and their remarks is priceless.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jul 2013

Much more information than I expected. And a huge education about the difficulties of what people go through in trying to expose the abuse of their fellow officers at the intelligence agencies.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
42. Great video. To hear their stories in their own words is priceless
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jul 2013

Wish this was on the six o'clock news....

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
19. Recommended!!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jul 2013

Since Bush's reign, I have reserved hope that someday good people of conscience from within the system would do something about the corruption-- because they are the expert witnesses.

Reform depends as much on them as it does on public pressure.

I am grateful to see such honorable people from within the intelligence communities, and respect them for standing up when they knew the consequences.



Thank you Catherina.



Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
25. But, but, but ...
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

... he's such a coward because he didn't stick around to get tortured!!! <add other reactionary bullshit>

Thanks for posting, Catherina! I've been reading your stuff since we talked last; just haven't had the time to post much. You've been all over this!

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
27. Excellent post! MUST WATCH stuff!!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jul 2013

Also do watch Assange give his input very interesting,.



This Dreamworks 'Wikileaks' film sounds like ZeroDark whatever it was,. a bunch more destructive corporate-military propaganda designed to misinform the ignorant.

Glad to see so many people listening to the truth at this event! More please.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
32. Thank you for posting that!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jul 2013

I was tempted to in the OP but didn't want to make it too long. I'm a few minutes into it now, it's excellent!

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
37. Thanks for the OP and the link to Consortiumnews.com
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jul 2013
http://consortiumnews.com/

I am diving into this site, seems very well done. "when journalists failed to alert the public" this is altogether too common now,. since we have stopped seeing much actual journalism, and instead are told what Justin Beiber and his girlfriend have been up to 24/7. Do we really need to know what CNN is telling us??
 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
33. Are they saying secrecy is misused to hide unconstitutional activities?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jul 2013

If so, does anyone know what unconstitutional activities they are talking about?

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
44. What I heard being described were abuses of power and also
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Tue Jul 9, 2013, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Actual murders!

I dd not hear the word "Unconstitutional" mentioned. However, to have a program that is of dubious status become classified material, so that it cannot even be discussed with those in the US Senate who are questioning what the program is and does, (and also probably how much it costs!) certainly does make a person wonder about how constitutional the program is. (And some of what is being discussed is the intelligence program in the UK, so of course, our constitution doesn't apply there.)

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
41. I see them talk, but not any evidence of their claims.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013

I could accuse anyone I don't like of the worst crimes ever too.

That's easy.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
43. Obviously, being vetted by this group of amazing insiders matters enormously.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:21 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Who without an agenda wouldn't defer judgement to their collective expertise?

http://wlcentral.org/node/2890

2013-08-17 Sam Adams statement on award to Snowden
Submitted by WLC on Sat, 08/17/2013 - 18:22


indepat

(20,899 posts)
45. What a searing indictment of big brother's misfeasance, if not malfeasance.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jul 2013

Big brother might take notice of what people in the know and who know the details of its chicanery are saying.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
49. *breaking* Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence is really a Ron Paul front group!
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jul 2013

You heard it here first people! another stealth libertarian group has been discovered after they foolishly tipped their hand by showing support for Ron Pauls plant "Ed Snow".

These libertarians are everywhere! The entire country is infested with little other than Paulbots!
They are worse than the commies were even when they were hiding under most American beds!!!

h2ebits

(645 posts)
56. Keep up the good work, Catherina.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jul 2013

I've been following your posts regarding Snowden and really appreciate the news that you are sharing with us. I don't post very often because of the derision and nastiness that comes with it but I am a DU faithful follower.

The truth will eventually overcome. . . .we just need to stand strong.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
57. Those are patriots.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jul 2013

The Sam Adams Award, named in honor of the late CIA analyst Sam Adams, has been given in previous years to truth-tellers Coleen Rowley of the FBI; Katharine Gun of British Intelligence; Sibel Edmonds of the FBI; Craig Murray, former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan; Sam Provance; former U.S. Army Sergeant at Abu Ghraib; Maj. Frank Grevil of Danish Army Intelligence; Larry Wilkerson, Colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), former chief of staff to Colin Powell at State; Julian Assange of WikiLeaks; Thomas Drake, former senior NSA official; Jesselyn Radack, Director of National Security and Human Rights, Government Accountability Project; and Thomas Fingar, former Assistant Secretary of State and Director, National Intelligence Council.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
62. Thank You, Catherina!
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jul 2013
[font size=3]When secrecy is misused to hide unconstitutional activities, fealty to that oath – and higher duty as citizens of conscience – dictate support for truth-tellers who summon the courage to blow the whistle. Edward Snowden’s disclosures fit the classic definition of whistle-blowing.
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