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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
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I wonder how Big Boy signed the application? Shrike47 Jun 2013 #1
It must have been a real stain. Gregorian Jun 2013 #2
Cindy and Big Boy already have a child together. Here (s)he is: leveymg Jun 2013 #3
That's about how the talk show in Louisville went this morning. JohnnyLib2 Jun 2013 #4
I am gonna marry my other personality, the sex will be awesome The Straight Story Jun 2013 #5
She was the last one to 'ketchup' with the bandwagon. n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Jun 2013 #6
It was a 'shotgun marriage'. The father was quite insistent. randome Jun 2013 #7
Mocking gay people is funny? yardwork Jun 2013 #8
You are missing the point by a mile. The mockery is aimed at those who think... Hekate Jun 2013 #13
That isn't obvious to me. yardwork Jun 2013 #15
It's hard to keep up with RW sexual obsessions, so here's some links Hekate Jun 2013 #16
I'm well aware of all these. I am gay. yardwork Jun 2013 #19
You know I have to smile when a straight person tells Puglover Jun 2013 #54
I just came back from a rally at the County Courthouse Hekate Jun 2013 #80
Agree... pipi_k Jun 2013 #89
Then you don't know him. This thread is insulting. There is good reason for people to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #104
I am afraid we disagree. Puglover Jun 2013 #114
Hey Billo...Elaine Chao already married a turtle... GReedDiamond Jun 2013 #56
I dunno... pipi_k Jun 2013 #49
There is no satire aimed at the bigots. No point was made about them. boston bean Jun 2013 #42
See my response to Puglover above Hekate Jun 2013 #90
And the anti-gay morons are MineralMan Jun 2013 #17
Yeah right yardwork Jun 2013 #20
I don't believe it either. nt boston bean Jun 2013 #36
Hey there! How you doing? yardwork Jun 2013 #66
Hey-o! boston bean Jun 2013 #107
You need to remove this offensive OP. If you think you're "mocking," that's not how it is coming MADem Jun 2013 #81
yeah I thought this op was sort of off too. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #22
Nothing but an excuse to mock and ridicule, and lots of responders to the thread are doing the same. yardwork Jun 2013 #24
Freeper troll. This op seals the deal, in my mind. boston bean Jun 2013 #34
That's how this strikes me as well, yardwork. suffragette Jun 2013 #58
It's all fun and games until the shower scene csziggy Jun 2013 #9
This seems in line with what they are saying at FR. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #10
+1 Zorra Jun 2013 #14
You say tomato, I say tomahto Spirochete Jun 2013 #11
Did you pick this up at your home website? DURHAM D Jun 2013 #12
I suspect the reasoning behind you posting this. The Link Jun 2013 #18
Is public pollination a crime in MA? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #21
Looks pretty racy. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #93
I'm just so happy for Pee Wee and the fruit salad. johnp3907 Jun 2013 #23
You post this bigoted tripe today, the day that GBLT Americans have been waiting for Heddi Jun 2013 #25
Thanks Heddi yardwork Jun 2013 #29
+1 n/t NealK Jun 2013 #32
+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #40
To be fair, at FR he also called black Obama voters 'stereotypes' and Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #41
So he's a racist too? NealK Jun 2013 #59
His mask slipped, as it is known to from time to time. morningfog Jun 2013 #51
+ infinity Apophis Jun 2013 #70
I'm going to marry either a cucumber or a banana. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #26
I can predict that this is going to end badly. MADem Jun 2013 #27
Thank you. yardwork Jun 2013 #28
I'm stunned that this is still up--it deserves a six to zip hide. MADem Jun 2013 #30
The author is "iwud wudunchu" boston bean Jun 2013 #43
The author could be Foo Kyn Azzole, for all I care!!! MADem Jun 2013 #77
+++ Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #45
How dare you post crap like this? NealK Jun 2013 #31
Is the tomato a "consenting adult"? AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #33
I can not believe you posted this. Shame on you it's not funny. Little Star Jun 2013 #35
It's classic MM garbage... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #96
I thought marriage was all about the baby's right to a mommy and a daddy. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #37
Insulting, shameful and cringe worthy OP. n/t UtahLib Jun 2013 #38
According to the OP's earlier confessions on DU, he was authoring anti gay propaganda Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #39
This does not feel like light-hearted satire. The Link Jun 2013 #46
It's not. It is the OP's way of showing disrespect to Skinner first and foremost then to Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #57
Well that explains a lot. NealK Jun 2013 #53
He donates $$$$ RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #106
Irony... pipi_k Jun 2013 #65
Are we allowed to make judgments based on current Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #68
See, here's the problem... pipi_k Jun 2013 #78
I sure as hell am. MADem Jun 2013 #94
+1 n/t NealK Jun 2013 #97
No really there was a timeline for me with this post that went like this: Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #111
Please self-delete. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #44
We agree. Puglover Jun 2013 #48
This would be stupid any day. rug Jun 2013 #47
+1 Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #72
I "get it" but it isn't funny cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #50
Maybe I should register newsyouwouldntbelieve.com and get traffic... and 100% of the revenues goes Mr. David Jun 2013 #52
So, did you write this? Original work? morningfog Jun 2013 #55
Dry humor. roamer65 Jun 2013 #60
The only people being mocked and made fun of in this thread are gay people. yardwork Jun 2013 #69
Tombstone worthy, IMO Prism Jun 2013 #61
Reads like something on Free Republic Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #62
WTF? Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #63
I suppose Rick Santorum will be proposing to a dog, shortly. madinmaryland Jun 2013 #64
I alerted on this OP; here are the results: Zorra Jun 2013 #67
the demise of meta has made it difficult to address the crap that goes on here Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #71
Does this thread meet the SOP for GD? You are a GD host, right? yardwork Jun 2013 #75
I wouldn't game the system that way; satire has been allowed in GD. MADem Jun 2013 #91
I certainly was not suggesting gaming the system yardwork Jun 2013 #98
Well, he's obviously referencing a current event, the SC decision. MADem Jun 2013 #101
yes it does. and even if it didn't at this point i would not vote on its status. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #110
Gotta do what you gotta do; if there are consequences for Zorra Jun 2013 #82
Nothing wrong with "meta-ing" within the thread. The hosts only have charge over the first post in MADem Jun 2013 #84
to be clear, the only thing wrong with in-thread meta is it is less effective. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #112
I wasn't pipi_k Jun 2013 #74
Oh. Are your kids LGBT? If so, with all due respect, I hope you relate to them and understand them, Zorra Jun 2013 #85
My kids pipi_k Jun 2013 #92
Well, I was definitely, and provably not holding a grudge, and neither were several of the Zorra Jun 2013 #95
What a surprise. NealK Jun 2013 #83
You posted this on the wrong discussion forum. Apophis Jun 2013 #73
Why didn't Cynthia marry "Early Girl"? Kurovski Jun 2013 #76
If I could marry a Kush marijuana plant EvilAL Jun 2013 #79
I know from your past defenses of these "rubber crutch" posts of yours Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #86
If any gay people are reading LittleBlue Jun 2013 #87
Thank you yardwork Jun 2013 #100
Please PM Skinner and tell him that. He supports this hate. Tell him to stop. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #115
She thought he was a Big Boy AnnieBW Jun 2013 #88
I expect right wingers to try this for real jmowreader Jun 2013 #99
A new low even for you MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #102
Yes, some things never change. But not at all unexpected. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #103
Not remotely amusing tkmorris Jun 2013 #105
Dumbass Son of Gob Jun 2013 #108
Freeper madness. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #109
I would have expected you to take this ugly shit down given the reaction. The Link Jun 2013 #113
I'm self-deleting this. MineralMan Jun 2013 #116

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
1. I wonder how Big Boy signed the application?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jun 2013

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
2. It must have been a real stain.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Cindy and Big Boy already have a child together. Here (s)he is:
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jun 2013

"Feed me!"





JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
4. That's about how the talk show in Louisville went this morning.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jun 2013

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
5. I am gonna marry my other personality, the sex will be awesome
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jun 2013

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
6. She was the last one to 'ketchup' with the bandwagon. n/t
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. It was a 'shotgun marriage'. The father was quite insistent.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013


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[font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
8. Mocking gay people is funny?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jun 2013

This is really low. I know that you are aware that this is what the anti-gay bigots say will happen.

Wow.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
13. You are missing the point by a mile. The mockery is aimed at those who think...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

... that allowing gay marriage will inevitably lead to interspecies weddings.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
15. That isn't obvious to me.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jun 2013

This looks like the mockery itself.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
16. It's hard to keep up with RW sexual obsessions, so here's some links
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jun 2013

You can't make this stuff up: Right Wing Nuttery just writes the parody itself. Enjoy.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/05/12/oreillys-ark-gay-marriage-could-lead-to-goat-du/150069
Bill O'Reilly again theorized that the legalization of gay marriage could lead to interspecies marriages, stating to Margaret Hoover, "[Y]ou would let everybody get married who want to get married. You want to marry a turtle, you can." O'Reilly has previously suggested that gay marriage could ultimately allow for a person to marry a goat, duck, or dolphin. July 3, 2012

http://www.burntorangereport.com/mt/archives/001855.html
Occationally, you have to give Andrew Sullivan a little credit. He found this gem about our Junior Senator in Texas:

"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. . . . Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife."
-- Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), advocating a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage in a speech Thursday to the Heritage Foundation.

That's right. In 2004, it's men marrying men and women marrying women. In ten years, it'll be men marrying goldfish and women marrying box turtles. Really, can anyone take these nuts seriously?

Update: As noted in comments, Cornyn did not use the "box turtle" line in his speech, although it was in the prepared remarks.

Posted by Byron LaMasters at July 13, 2004

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
19. I'm well aware of all these. I am gay.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jun 2013

This thread is neither amusing nor illuminating.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
54. You know I have to smile when a straight person tells
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jun 2013

me (when I take issue with a (joke???) about gay people that I am "missing the point by a mile". Assuming you are straight Hekate you really don't or can't understand what today means to us. So yeah perhaps this might be a parody on wingnuts idea of what might happen. Today is a day of joy for some of us. And I (and I think others) do not need to see the filth that wingnuts are trying to peddle. Joking or otherwise.
Make any sense at all?

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
80. I just came back from a rally at the County Courthouse
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jun 2013

I wanted to be with my friends in the social justice movement at this joyful occasion. This town being what it is, we had a bunch of clergy standing up for love, we had our politicians and/or their representatives, and a whole lot of the old gang, just familiar old faces and a lot of new ones from all the things I've ever been involved in over the past 30 years.

And no one -- not one blessed soul -- said the kinds of sour, unkind, angry bilge that flooded DU this morning.

As for MinMan -- I don't follow him from thread to thread. I just "know" him from GD at DU over the years. My impression is that he is not one who is given to deliberately unkind remarks, and therefore I took his OP as a joke aimed at the right wing nutjobs that infest our political sphere. Not at you. Not at my friends.

Hekate

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
89. Agree...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:03 PM
Jun 2013

I don't follow him around, either. At least, not at the same obsessive level some here demonstrate.

When I do read his threads or posts, all I see at least 90% of the time is nastiness being dumped on him by people who just can't seem to forgive or forget what he did...or was...in the past.

I have never seen him deliberately try to hurt someone...in stark contrast to the large number of DUers who write some pretty awful things to him.

It's nasty and it's obsessive, and it honestly makes me cringe in sympathy for MM, who came clean about his activities elsewhere and is repeatedly abused for it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
104. Then you don't know him. This thread is insulting. There is good reason for people to
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:35 AM
Jun 2013

feel that coming from this OP especially, it is extremely offensive.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
114. I am afraid we disagree.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:24 AM
Jun 2013

I really don't know what "sour angry bilge" you are referring to unless it's within this thread.

Frankly a rally at the county courthouse is a vastly different venue then a discussion board on the internet.

I wonder how it would have gone over had someone stepped to the podium and told this "joke".

I don't follow MM anywhere trust me. However this thread was somewhat hard to miss.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
56. Hey Billo...Elaine Chao already married a turtle...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jun 2013

...way back in '93. His name is "Mitch."

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
49. I dunno...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

What can I say but that it was pretty obvious to me also that the mockery is directed toward those mental defectives who actually believe that gay marriage will lead to all sorts of crazy things.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
42. There is no satire aimed at the bigots. No point was made about them.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jun 2013

All it was, was regurgitated rw bigot speech, that they use in an attempt to justify their bigotry.

Where is the satire directed at the bigots in this OP?

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
90. See my response to Puglover above
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jun 2013

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. And the anti-gay morons are
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jun 2013

wh I am mocking. See the link to the DFL precinct webite in my sinnature line. I wrote it.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
20. Yeah right
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jun 2013

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
36. I don't believe it either. nt
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jun 2013

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
66. Hey there! How you doing?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jun 2013

Re: This OP. Now I'm not saying "narcissistic personality disorder" but....

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
107. Hey-o!
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jun 2013

Good to see you!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
81. You need to remove this offensive OP. If you think you're "mocking," that's not how it is coming
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jun 2013

across.

Is that a clear enough, sufficiently declarative statement?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
22. yeah I thought this op was sort of off too.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

I wasnt going to post anything because it is just too easy to deny it and claim that the satire is cutting the other way, I just wonder about the thought process that goes into posting the op today.

Glad you brought it up.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
24. Nothing but an excuse to mock and ridicule, and lots of responders to the thread are doing the same.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jun 2013

Fruit salad and PeeWee Herman?! Oh, I get it, PeeWee Herman is a fruit! Get it? Hilarious.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
34. Freeper troll. This op seals the deal, in my mind.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:56 PM
Jun 2013

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
58. That's how this strikes me as well, yardwork.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jun 2013

And today of all days.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. It's all fun and games until the shower scene
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:27 PM
Jun 2013

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
10. This seems in line with what they are saying at FR.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jun 2013

Not getting the satire aspect, which usually contains irony.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
14. +1
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
Jun 2013

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
11. You say tomato, I say tomahto
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jun 2013

lets call the whole thing ... ridiculous

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
12. Did you pick this up at your home website?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jun 2013
 

The Link

(757 posts)
18. I suspect the reasoning behind you posting this.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jun 2013

Just sayin'.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
21. Is public pollination a crime in MA?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jun 2013
 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
93. Looks pretty racy.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jun 2013

johnp3907

(3,732 posts)
23. I'm just so happy for Pee Wee and the fruit salad.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jun 2013

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
25. You post this bigoted tripe today, the day that GBLT Americans have been waiting for
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jun 2013

You post a link to a "satirical" story (that is not satirical at all) that basically affirms the beliefs that so many right wingers have that Woman + Woman in marriage, or Man + Man in marriage = Woman + Tomato in marriage, or Man + Dog in marriage.

This isn't funny. It's not satirical.

It's offensive.

But we've come to expect no less from you.

Pick this up from an old pal at Free Republic? Remember FR? You posted there for so many years. And made some pretty horrible posts about gays and lesbians.

But you were just fooling then, right? Just trying to pull the wool.....

this post is sickening, and part of me hopes you have the self decency to delete it, and the other half hopes you don't, so that everyone can be REMINDED (not shown...reminded) of your history of loathing towards GBLT'ers.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
29. Thanks Heddi
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jun 2013

NealK

(1,870 posts)
32. +1 n/t
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jun 2013

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
40. +1
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jun 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
41. To be fair, at FR he also called black Obama voters 'stereotypes' and
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jun 2013

'caricatures'. So it was not JUST gays and lesbians, he also did the Deen with gusto.

NealK

(1,870 posts)
59. So he's a racist too?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jun 2013
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
51. His mask slipped, as it is known to from time to time.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jun 2013
 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
70. + infinity
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:20 PM
Jun 2013
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
26. I'm going to marry either a cucumber or a banana.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jun 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I can predict that this is going to end badly.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:19 PM
Jun 2013

What in the world possessed you to drag this nasty shit in here?

It's offensive, and the kind of thing that only wingnut sites would yuck about. All you need is a line or two about how an "activist" Supreme Court justice (pick the one you love to hate) performed the ceremony and you'd be in hatemongering clover.

There's no "satire smiley" going on here. This is a big fail, major poor taste, and even worse judgment.

This is just below the standards for this discussion board.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
28. Thank you.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jun 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. I'm stunned that this is still up--it deserves a six to zip hide.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jun 2013

And today, of all days.

This is an insult to not just a key demographic of our population, but to all Americans. And it is doubly offensive because it uses MY state, Massachusetts, which was a leader in the equality effort, to make the "joke."

It's just not funny. It's mean. It's insidious, like a shiv between the ribs. It's wrong, it's phobic, it's like that Texas "marrying the box turtle" nonsense that the guys who pick their noses with their six shooters get a kick out of.

The OP really needs to do a serious gut check and then take a course correction, after deleting this piece of shit. If I were him, I'd be beyond ashamed.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
43. The author is "iwud wudunchu"
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jun 2013

I assume that means, I would, wouldn't you...

WTH does he mean by that?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
77. The author could be Foo Kyn Azzole, for all I care!!!
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jun 2013

The person posting this garbage has some "man in the mirror" stuff to do. He's either just not getting the sheer offensiveness, or he's "having a laugh," to quote a Ricky Gervais in EXTRAS catch-phrase.

Either way, he's gotten enough feedback -- he needs to shut this shit down.


IMO, anyway...

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
45. +++
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

NealK

(1,870 posts)
31. How dare you post crap like this?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jun 2013

I was in a great mood until I read that. You make me sick.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
33. Is the tomato a "consenting adult"?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jun 2013

nt

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
35. I can not believe you posted this. Shame on you it's not funny.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jun 2013

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
96. It's classic MM garbage...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jun 2013

and doesn't surprise me in the least.

A while back he offered up a trademark lecture on hit-and-run posters and "controversial" topics, yet he's absent from this thread. I'm surprised he hasn't offered up a trademark passive-aggressive explanation as to why. I'd do a search for the thread, but life is too short. And it might have been in Meta, anyway.

There has to be something seriously lacking in one's life to post a shit OP like this to a Democratic board, on what is truly a joyous day. Satire, my ass. He has some people on this board fooled, but the majority? No.

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
37. I thought marriage was all about the baby's right to a mommy and a daddy.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:59 PM
Jun 2013

How is THAT going to work?

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
38. Insulting, shameful and cringe worthy OP. n/t
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jun 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
39. According to the OP's earlier confessions on DU, he was authoring anti gay propaganda
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jun 2013

for right wing web sites during the 2004 campaign and later. During that election my new State of Oregon passed an amendment against marriage equality that is a barrier today. I fought that amendment, the OP was typing up hateful lies about gay people being untrustworthy around children. Because of this history, it is difficult to accept this is offered in parody and impossible to think that any decent person would feel it was their place to attempt such parody after so many years as an active libel merchant and full tilt liar opposing gay rights of all kinds all over the internet.
These are just the facts, all admitted on DU by the OP himself.

 

The Link

(757 posts)
46. This does not feel like light-hearted satire.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jun 2013
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
57. It's not. It is the OP's way of showing disrespect to Skinner first and foremost then to
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:38 PM
Jun 2013

LGBT people.

NealK

(1,870 posts)
53. Well that explains a lot.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jun 2013

Why is this homophobic right winger allowed to be a member of a progressive site?

RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
106. He donates $$$$
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:34 AM
Jun 2013

A lot of rw trolls are allowed to stay and attack liberals and DUers as long as they DONATE!!


$

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
65. Irony...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jun 2013

So when people post here about trying to change the minds and attitudes of RWers, that's all just a bunch of bullshit?

Because really the general attitude seems to be, "once a RWer, always a RWer", and people who call themselves "liberals" (who, one supposes, are supposed to be tolerant) will keep throwing a person's past at him over and over again.

Honestly, it's no wonder RWers stick so resolutely to their beliefs. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they're RWers they suck. If they turn the other way they have their noses rubbed in their own shit time after time

One big lesson here is clear...honesty...as in revealing one's past is not always the best policy when so many people are so eager to use it against someone

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
68. Are we allowed to make judgments based on current
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jun 2013

posts?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
78. See, here's the problem...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jun 2013

people aren't really making judgements based on current posts.

They are making judgements based on his past history.

I suspect that if a more popular DUer had posted this, even those who didn't find it particularly amusing would not be expressing the same level of vitriol as what's been spewed out in this thread.

I think many people would actually try and give the OP a chance to explain...I think many people would not reply in such a knee-jerk fashion.

One thing I would like to see here...which I realize is impossible, but I think it would be interesting...would be for someone to be able to choose anonymity for, oh, 12 to 24 hours.

Wouldn't it be a huge surprise for some to jump down someone's throat for something only to find out later it was one of that person's "buddies".

I see too many people here rushing to judgement based on who made the post...not on any attempt to actually read and understand it, even if one does not agree with it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
94. I sure as hell am.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jun 2013

Please read my comments in post 91 ( here is a link so it's easy to find - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023105108#post91 - )

I felt a bit "underdog defensive" about this particular poster, owing to his age and what I supposed was his evolution in his viewpoints. I read his old "Free Republic" confessions, and I read the mean shit people wrote about him, and I felt sorry for him for taking so much shit for being truthful. See, I do believe people can change.

But I read this OP, not even noticing who posted it, and I was offended. When I realized who the poster was, I felt like an ass who had been tricked into supporting a jerk.

I don't think this is satire, really. I think it's hate speech and I don't understand why a jury didn't hide it.

NealK

(1,870 posts)
97. +1 n/t
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jun 2013
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
111. No really there was a timeline for me with this post that went like this:
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:51 AM
Jun 2013

1. who the fuck posted this fucked up piece of shit here today of all days?
2. oh it is mm. wow. what a coincidence.

In case that isn't clear: first it was a fucked up post, then it was a question of the posters history.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
44. Please self-delete. nt
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jun 2013

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
48. We agree.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jun 2013

It would be so easy to simply say "Whoops, bad joke." If you don't MM I have to wonder if your ego is more important then doing the right thing.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
47. This would be stupid any day.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jun 2013

It is monumentally stupid today.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
72. +1
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jun 2013

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
50. I "get it" but it isn't funny
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jun 2013
 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
52. Maybe I should register newsyouwouldntbelieve.com and get traffic... and 100% of the revenues goes
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jun 2013

to a good cause, no?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
55. So, did you write this? Original work?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jun 2013

You must be so proud. Zebras can't change stripes, huh?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
60. Dry humor.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jun 2013

It makes fun of the people like Senator "box turtle" Cornyn.

These people like him are to be mocked and made fun of, as the mental midgets they truly are.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
69. The only people being mocked and made fun of in this thread are gay people.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jun 2013

Both the OP and every single supportive response mocks and makes fun of gay people. That's not dry humor. That's the kind of humor that George W. Bush likes.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
61. Tombstone worthy, IMO
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jun 2013

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
62. Reads like something on Free Republic
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jun 2013

Oh. Now I remember.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
63. WTF?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jun 2013

This OP is bullshit!

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
64. I suppose Rick Santorum will be proposing to a dog, shortly.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jun 2013

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
67. I alerted on this OP; here are the results:
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jun 2013

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert

Mail Message
At Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:54 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

MA Woman and Tomato Plant Apply for Marriage License
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023105108

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

This post is not satire. This poster is deliberately insulting the LGBT community with this poorly written satire, because he is apparently upset that DOMA was ruled unconstitutional. This poster was once an anti-gay member of freerepublic who even posted on freerepublic that "Gays Can't Be Trusted With Children" Here is a DU thread discussing this issue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com
/?com=view_post&forum=1137&pid=10794

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:02 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: As "satire" it's really pretty pitiful. Add to that the knowledge of this poster's history, and I'm not charitably inclined.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said:

It reads as satire to me. I suggest you get over it. Seriously.


Leave it.


Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It was presented and accepted as satire. Enough with the fucking vendettas already. Today is a great day for the LGBT community - enjoy it.

Thank you.
------------------------------------
My apologies to all those concerned are both present and forthcoming, both public and private.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
71. the demise of meta has made it difficult to address the crap that goes on here
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jun 2013

I understand the motivation to shut meta down, but AA is not really an alternative. Instead "meta" now happens in thread. Oh well.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
75. Does this thread meet the SOP for GD? You are a GD host, right?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jun 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)
91. I wouldn't game the system that way; satire has been allowed in GD.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jun 2013

We don't want the hosts making 'value' judgments--because there could come a day when a preponderance of hosts have values that are antithetical to yours or mine. They need to do their job,and ONLY their job, and stick to the SOP.

That said, I do think this post needs to go. This is hateful satire, and it needs to be hidden, but I think a better way of handling it is to take the case to the admins. If it's not gone by tomorrow, I'll send a DUmail to the admins asking "WTF" and I'd urge others to do the same.

This is just shitty. In the past I've given this poster the benefit of the doubt, and felt that people shouldn't pile on about his Free Republic past, or keep bringing it up, because I do believe that people have capacity for change and growth, and they can learn the error of their ways. That said, now I am feeling like a "soft touch," a sucker, a rube, because this OP smacks of "too clever by half." The unwillingness of the poster to acknowledge that people are perturbed by this is what is especially troubling.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
98. I certainly was not suggesting gaming the system
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:50 AM
Jun 2013

I don't think that this thread is satire. How does it meet the SOP for GD? What is the OP discussing?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
101. Well, he's obviously referencing a current event, the SC decision.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jun 2013

His little :satiresmiley: notation at the end of his post indicates he's trying to pass it off as satire.

Current events are "OK" in GD, and satire has also been allowed -- often --in this forum.

I just don't think there's sufficient "there" there for the hosts to push this out the door. This IS a community standards issue, though, which is why we need to take it to the court of appeals.

I know Skinner doesn't ordinarily involve himself in removing stuff, but he's done it at least once that I remember. Sometimes, it's the right thing to do.

This OP is like a red flag before the bull, IMO. I don't see any "satire" or teasing that would inflame the right wing. I can see wingnuts snickering and enjoying this, though, in an "I toldja so" way.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
110. yes it does. and even if it didn't at this point i would not vote on its status.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:45 AM
Jun 2013

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
82. Gotta do what you gotta do; if there are consequences for
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jun 2013

honesty and transparency, well, as lame as I may be, I can still least at try to be better than the NSA.

Do you know any sauces, seasonings, or strong alcoholic beverages that might make my 20+ course meal of stone cold crow go down better?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. Nothing wrong with "meta-ing" within the thread. The hosts only have charge over the first post in
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

the thread. Frankly, it's more honest than the passive-aggressive "Did you see what so-and-so said about such-n-such in this LINK (then the link is provided)?"

I say confront the bullshit head on; deal with the issue, plainly and clearly, and do it where the offense happened. That way there's no confusion.

I made my opinion on this OP clear throughout this thread. I find it offensive, I don't think it's "mocking" haters, it sounds, to my ear, like it is mocking the SC decision. I think it should be shut down, and the thread starter should dig deep, find some sensitivity, write a post apologizing for this stupid fucking OP, and then delete it. It's trash.

IMO.

YMMV.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
112. to be clear, the only thing wrong with in-thread meta is it is less effective.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:54 AM
Jun 2013

A stand-alone discussion about this op in meta would have had a much wider audience, and that would have been a good thing and it would have perhaps raised "consciousness" (oh my 70's heritage is showing) with our community and what is appropriate and what isnt.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
74. I wasn't
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jun 2013

on the jury for this, but if I had been, my reply would have been much the same as Juror #6...

Lots of people do not like MM.

I've seen relatively innocuous OPs of his that have generated some nasty and hateful replies.

If MM is such a vile person to most of the people in this thread, why the hell don't they just put him on ignore?

Also...I agree...this truly was a great day for the LGBT community. Why not enjoy it?? I really would prefer NOT to think that people here are so fragile that a post on an internet discussion board is actually going to ruin their day:

"OMG I was having a good day until I read this!!!"

Please. I see this type of drama all the time from my pre-teen grandkids. It's discouraging to see it here...from "adults".

sigh...



Zorra

(27,670 posts)
85. Oh. Are your kids LGBT? If so, with all due respect, I hope you relate to them and understand them,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jun 2013

better than you do this situation, because you apparently assume to know a great deal more about it than you ever possibly could.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
92. My kids
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jun 2013

aren't gay, but I do have family members who are.

I can say this with assurance, my dear...they have wonderful senses of humor.

I'm quite sure that they would see the actual point here...which is that this OP is meant to mock the mouth-breathers who fear that gay marriage will open up the doors to people marrying their pets, their cars, and yes...even tomatoes.

And if I were to explain to them the facts here...that people hold gut-rotting grudges against MM for his past, they would see even more. Because that, ultimately, is what lies beneath this drama.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.


Zorra

(27,670 posts)
95. Well, I was definitely, and provably not holding a grudge, and neither were several of the
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jun 2013

posters disturbed by the OP, although I'm sure some were holding a grudge.

A rocket scientist could probably figure this out; but much of it is no longer researchable due to self deletions and the demise of meta.

I was really hoping your kids were LGBT, so that maybe they would explain how this OP might be offensive to many in the LGBT community.

Try your gay relatives, they will be able to explain it to you.

As will many straight folks here at DU as well.

NealK

(1,870 posts)
83. What a surprise.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jun 2013
 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
73. You posted this on the wrong discussion forum.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jun 2013

I'm sure FR would appreciate this crap.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
76. Why didn't Cynthia marry "Early Girl"?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jun 2013

Seems the correct way to go in this matter.

EvilAL

(1,437 posts)
79. If I could marry a Kush marijuana plant
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jun 2013

I definitely would. The honeymoon would last forever as we raised our clones and I ate a lot of cheetos.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
86. I know from your past defenses of these "rubber crutch" posts of yours
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

That you seem to assume that we are too dumb to "get" your sophisticated wit and timing.

I want to offer heartfelt assurance that this is completely not true--these are just tone deaf and unfunny and offensive.

Gay rights are hardly a done deal and what other minority group would you find it amusing to use as your "material" in the face of decades of struggle to be recognized as humans? Going to do one on VRA next?

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
87. If any gay people are reading
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

I do not think your marriage is the equivalent of marrying a tomato. Nor should it be joked about as such.

Sincerely, a straight guy.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
100. Thank you
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jun 2013

There are a half dozen gay people commenting in this thread. We've all said that the OP is offensive and not funny. We've been ignored by the OP and insulted by others.

Not one of DU's finest moments.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
115. Please PM Skinner and tell him that. He supports this hate. Tell him to stop.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:51 AM
Jun 2013

AnnieBW

(10,429 posts)
88. She thought he was a Big Boy
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jun 2013

But he was really just a cherry tomato!

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
99. I expect right wingers to try this for real
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jun 2013

With all the interspecies marriage lies the right wingers have told since same-sex marriage started to be discussed, I expect this to actually happen...and lots of whining about how they can't marry who they want.

 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
102. A new low even for you
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:28 AM
Jun 2013

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
103. Yes, some things never change. But not at all unexpected.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:31 AM
Jun 2013

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
105. Not remotely amusing
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 04:52 AM
Jun 2013

You never struck me as dumb enough to not understand how this would be taken. Therefore I can only conclude you knew exactly the reaction you'd get here. In that case I have to wonder what your purpose was in posting this.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
108. Dumbass
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jun 2013

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
109. Freeper madness.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:42 AM
Jun 2013
 

The Link

(757 posts)
113. I would have expected you to take this ugly shit down given the reaction.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:58 AM
Jun 2013

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
116. I'm self-deleting this.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:52 AM
Jun 2013

It was intended as a satire making fun of anti-marriage equality efforts. It was misunderstood by some, and so I'm self-deleting, since my post was not taken in the way I intended, due to my own lack of skills at satire.

I apologize for not making myself clear. If you click the DFL precinct link in my signature line, you'll see that I have been an active supporter of marriage equality. I am the chair of my precinct organization and what is written on that site is mine.

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