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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 09:51 AM Dec 2011

Michelle Bachmann: I hold a biblical view of law. Congress should be most powerful.

"I hold a biblical view of law. If you look at the original constitution and the founding documents of our country, it was clear that the founders wanted to separate power, they wanted to separate the presidency from the Supreme Court and from the Congress, because they thought that the Congress should be the most powerful of all the people’s voices because the people would have the ability to change out the members of the House every two years, originally the state legislatures would chose the Senators and they would have the state’s interest in mind, and the President was meant to execute the laws that Congress would put into place. The courts had a relatively minor function, it was to take current facts and apply it to the law that Congress had passed. So it was really a beautiful system that set up but it’s been distorted since then, and that’s what we need to do, get back to the original view of the Founders because it worked beautifully." - Michele Bachmann, promising to gut the federal judiciary.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/12/who-needs-three-branches.html

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Michelle Bachmann: I hold a biblical view of law. Congress should be most powerful. (Original Post) WillParkinson Dec 2011 OP
Reads like a 10th grade civics essay. tabasco Dec 2011 #1
You must be grading on a curve... WillParkinson Dec 2011 #3
If I wrote something like that in my HS Government class hobbit709 Dec 2011 #6
Wrong again Michelle randr Dec 2011 #2
Shows how much you know... WillParkinson Dec 2011 #5
"biblical view of law" hobbit709 Dec 2011 #4
she went to law school to learn the bible? ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #7
I hate to admit or say this, but in a sense I agree with her. justiceischeap Dec 2011 #8
She just ssaid, the job of president, is to be a rubber stamp, in the form of a BOOT. WingDinger Dec 2011 #13
I don't agree with that but I do agree that the President has too much power justiceischeap Dec 2011 #14
You are talking about long settled law. WingDinger Dec 2011 #15
Look, what she says definitely has one foot planted in reality Bucky Dec 2011 #17
There's a book in the bible called "Judges" d_r Dec 2011 #9
This woman is truly Le Taz Hot Dec 2011 #10
Proof that she's not fit to hold any elected office. n/t deucemagnet Dec 2011 #11
That, Michelle,... onyourleft Dec 2011 #12
She meant to say her thinking(?) has not evolved in 2000 years OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2011 #16
So saith our strict Constitutionalist tea bagger from Minnesota Botany Dec 2011 #18

randr

(12,412 posts)
2. Wrong again Michelle
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:03 AM
Dec 2011

In America the people are the most powerful. It is the sharing of responsibilities by the three branches of government that were designed to guarantee the peoples rights.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
5. Shows how much you know...
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:06 AM
Dec 2011

I mean, really, who's the Congresswoman here? She obviously knows her stuff.

1) "And what a bizarre time we're in, when a judge will say to little children that you can't say the pledge of allegiance, but you must learn that homosexuality is normal and you should try it."


2) "There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design."

See more (or is that see Moron?)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/25/the-craziest-things-miche_n_840503.html#s257574&title=Literally_Hundreds

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
4. "biblical view of law"
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:06 AM
Dec 2011

She better sit down and read some things written by Madison, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin. Of course that assumes she has the ability to comprehend what she is reading.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. I hate to admit or say this, but in a sense I agree with her.
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:37 AM
Dec 2011

I agree that the office of President is becoming too powerful and that Congress doesn't hold the same power as it used to. We can thank George W. and his ilk for that.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. I don't agree with that but I do agree that the President has too much power
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 11:09 AM
Dec 2011

When a President can decide to take us to war without Congress authorizing... that's too much power.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
15. You are talking about long settled law.
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 11:18 AM
Dec 2011

Long tradition of our wars, since WW2, has been to not declare war. We use the presidents prerogative to send troops, for a period of 90 days. Then we just extend it. So as not to declare war. SUPERPOWERS cannot declare war. We will only admit to skirmishes. You are talking of stripping long extablished power of the pres.

Her opinion is, that God should guide the Congress, and the pres. enforces the dictates of that congress. Theocracy that Iran would marvel at.

Bucky

(54,005 posts)
17. Look, what she says definitely has one foot planted in reality
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 12:13 PM
Dec 2011

The Framers didn't exactly plan for Congress to be the strongest branch, but they did expect for it to be the principal political branch, with the other two above the fray. But then again, they really didn't design the Judiciary at all. They beat it out of Philadelphia without really designing the Judicial Branch and simply presumed that the judges would bring law down onto the states--which was the original intent of the Constitution anyway.

What's really objectionable about her is that her understanding of how it all ought to work is so paint-by-numbers. It's all "I don't like the way judges rule, so judges shouldn't have any power." Her real beef is with the rule of law. She's ignoring the fact that the other two branches became as powerful as they did because Congress (and state legislatures, too) became incompetent at dealing with the problems in society.

The imperial presidency arose under successive Roosevelts (long before Dubya desecrated the people's house) because Congress is designed more to obstruct progress than to solve problems. The judiciary evolved to "legislating from the bench" because the laws of the land, written by the legislatures of the land, left schools segregated, prisons overcrowded, pollution unobstructed, and the fundamental rights listed in the Constitution disregarded by powerful private interests.

If Bachmann truly has a biblical view of the law, I assume that means she'd like to let all the rot and moral corruption sink into the land until God sends a plague or the armies of Nebuchadnezzar into punish us for being bad at self government. But probably all that weird phrase means is that she wants people to think God likes her. She's wrong, of course. God certainly loves Michelle Bachmann, but I don't think he likes her.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
9. There's a book in the bible called "Judges"
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:43 AM
Dec 2011

I guess she is saying, from a biblical view of law, that she thinks that rabbis should make sure that people sacrifice the correct amount of birds and oxen, and that sort of thing.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. This woman is truly
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 10:45 AM
Dec 2011

stuck on stupid. I mean, she really brings it to a whole new level, doesn't she? Anyone have an 8th grader out there who would like to write a rebuttal?

Botany

(70,503 posts)
18. So saith our strict Constitutionalist tea bagger from Minnesota
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 12:32 PM
Dec 2011

"Through Articles I, II, and III of the Constitution the Founders established three separate, co-equal branches of government, the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judiciary."

Read more: http://community.adn.com/adn/node/152944#ixzz1goILuf7P

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