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[Whisp]

1. yeh sure.

[Celldweller]

3. yeh maybe the poll was skewed? lol nt

[pinboy3niner]

15. Gallup skewed? Getouttahere! LOL!

[riverbendviewgal]

2. I pity America if this is true

Well.....another reason to stay up in my neck of the woods.

[Politicalboi]

6. Come on, everyone knows

Misery likes company.

20 years ago I would not have believed a poll like this, but in today's world who knows. I'm still leaning it's BS.

[riverbendviewgal]

40. I am with you

wasn't the Gallup wrong on the latest Obama election?

[BenzoDia]

4. Did they misidentify likely voters again? Ehhh, turnout? Nm

[Cali_Democrat]

5. 3 things

1) They're comparing a sitting President to an inebriated President sitting in his Texas ranch, drinking away.

2) Bush's approval reached the low twenties at one point. Obama has never been nearly that low.

3) Gallup is a joke of a polling organization with proven Republican bias as they picked Romney to beat Obama.

[Dawson Leery]

8. Correct.

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. Ding! Ding! Ding!

[geek tragedy]

7. Look the guy whose thread defending Bush's Iraq legacy was locked earlier is back! nt

[adric mutelovic]

9. Apples vs. Oranges

Presidents' approvals tend to grow after they are not longer President.

[Celldweller]

17. true...

Obama will be judged kindly by history, a REALLY nice guy in WAY over his head.

[geek tragedy]

28. Yo Skinner, clean up in aisle 17. nt

[Celldweller]

33. on the Pro-Sense scale of "head in the sand"

you're an 8.5

[adric mutelovic]

37. If it is true, why did you focus on the comparision?

The apples and oranges comparison is in your title.

I'm having a hard time finding a sentence in Gallup implying that this is a fair comparison.

[The Straight Story]

10. Didn't trust the polls before the election. Still don't. But some love to be misled by them

Get's em through the night for some reason.

Reminds me of something I ran across today:

Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/

This is when he had a high approval rating....so not sure what having a high rating means....

[graham4anything]

11. This just ratifies that indeed everything the last few weeks was 100% dirty tricks

this of course, proves that the smears were dirty tricks.

but then we all already knew that, and each and every one was debunked.

Of course, all those polls said Mitt won, didn't they?

[Socialistlemur]

23. I don't think the NSA spying went over very well

Imagine, now we have to use the Rumanian version of Facebook, and an Albanian email server. I put my backups in Iran. What a hassle.

[kentuck]

12. It was Gallup?

That explains it.

[geek tragedy]

13. Two different Gallup polls, asking two different questions

Bush was favorable/unfavorable, Obama was job approval.

Favorable number is always higher than job approval--plenty of people like Obama personally without thinking he's doing a good job.

[Dawson Leery]

22. Obama's favorable rating is 60%.

Gallup once against pushes the propaganda. Favorable rating does NOT equal approval rating.

[Celldweller]

24. is that the skewed or the unskewed number Wolf? nt

[geek tragedy]

25. It isn't Gallup that's pushing the propaganda.

the OP got this comparison from some wingnut website.

Check out his earlier work from today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022992459

[JI7]

31. i see, it's a troll, wonder why that OP didn't get it banned

i wonder if this one will but i have noticed it's taking much longer to get rid of them if we even do.

[geek tragedy]

32. See his post #17 in this thread. Complete troll. nt

[geek tragedy]

42. You were too subtle, apparently nt

[Celldweller]

47. sheeesh...

You know... without a rapid exit how am I expected to have fun here?

still waiting...

[easychoice]

14. Um,you need to get out more...

Your Cellar is closing in on you...rapidly.
Gallup isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
What does Nate Silver say?

[octoberlib]

16. Their polls also had Romney winning the election.

Gallup polls are meaningless.

[AsahinaKimi]

35. That ball was hit really hard!!!

Its going way back!!! Back! Back! Back!! TELL IT GOODBYE!!! HOME RUN!!!

[Boomerproud]

18. This is on CNN's home page with the title "Miss Me Yet?"

I just ate.

[JaneyVee]

19. LOL. Gallup explains how they blew the Presidential election:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-04/gallup-explains-how-it-blew-the-presidential-election

[adric mutelovic]

20. Who compared Obama and Bush? The OP or Gallup?

In my first post above, I criticized Gallup as I had not read the Gallup story.

If you go to the Gallup website and read the article, you will see that the OP (welcome to DU, by the way) did a much worse job than Gallup did. Gallup observed very early in the piece that Americans are very kind to ex-presidents

My conclusion is that the Gallup piece was good and this thread is terrible.

Please do not take my criticism as a hint that the OP is a troll, because he is not.

[geek tragedy]

26. I disagree in part with your post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022992459

[JI7]

34. it IS a troll

[olddots]

21. oops made me look

[ProSense]

27. Favorability ratings are

...not the same as job approval ratings. And if you didn't know, Gallup leans right.

No, Bush Is Not More Popular Than Obama

by Noah Rothman

The news that former President George W. Bush’s poll numbers have improved dramatically since he left office in 2009 was greeted by conservatives on Tuesday with a mixture of vindication and glee. According to Gallup, by 49 to 46 percent, Bush’s favorability rating had exceeded his unfavorability rating for the first time since 2005. Some conservative news organizations even made the claim that Bush had even surpassed President Barack Obama in popularity. Sadly for conservatives, this is not the case.

“Americans’ views of former president George W. Bush have improved, with 49% now viewing him favorably and 46% unfavorably. That is the first time since 2005 that opinions of him have been more positive than negative,” the Gallup release read.

Conservative sites like Breitbart and Drudge Report ran with the news that “Bush more popular than Obama…”

<...>

It is important to test Gallup results against Gallup results to ensure the polls are methodologically consistent. Gallup does not test the president’s favorably rating regularly, but the last time they did (April 11 – 14, 2013) they found Obama with a 55 to 43 percent personal favorability rating. That was down only slightly from the last time they tested it right after the president’s reelection in November, 2012, when Obama received a 58 to 40 percent favorability rating.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-bush-is-not-more-popular-than-obama/

[ProSense]

43. Breitbart says to call home. n/t

[riverbendviewgal]

45. I am sorry but could you explain what you meant on what you said? celldweller.

I am a little slow.

[Poll_Blind]

30. Credit where credit is due- Bush DID come up with many of Obama's excellent "security" policies.

PB

[Scuba]

41. Makes perfect sense. Acting like a Republican has won Obama favor with no one on the right ....

... while pissing off many, many folks who supported him.

[ProSense]

46. No, it

"Makes perfect sense. Acting like a Republican has won Obama favor with no one on the right ...."

...doesn't make "perfect sense." It's a headline straight from the RW.

Conservative sites like Breitbart and Drudge Report ran with the news that “Bush more popular than Obama…”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-bush-is-not-more-popular-than-obama/

[adric mutelovic]

48. Obama's approval has not dipped considerably

Which casts doubt on your statement.

Unless you are talking about the fact that Obama was hugely popular during the first few days of his Presidents, which usually happens to everyone.