165 replies  Author  Time  Post 
Solve if you are genius (Original post) 
fried eggs  Jun 2013  OP 
enlightenment  Jun 2013  #1  
cherokeeprogressive  Jun 2013  #2  
Zorra  Jun 2013  #146  
Ron Green  Jun 2013  #3  
longship  Jun 2013  #4  
customerserviceguy  Jun 2013  #9  
Nimajneb Nilknarf  Jun 2013  #5  
kentuck  Jun 2013  #6  
Scuba  Jun 2013  #39  
ZombieHorde  Jun 2013  #7  
Capt.Rocky300  Jun 2013  #8  
Happyhippychick  Jun 2013  #10  
X_Digger  Jun 2013  #11  
jazzimov  Jun 2013  #18  
bemildred  Jun 2013  #12  
Cronus Protagonist  Jun 2013  #13  
kentuck  Jun 2013  #19  
Aerows  Jun 2013  #34  
BainsBane  Jun 2013  #14  
Lucinda  Jun 2013  #15  
liberal N proud  Jun 2013  #16  
Aerows  Jun 2013  #35  
Xipe Totec  Jun 2013  #17  
LittleBlue  Jun 2013  #20  
fried eggs  Jun 2013  #56  
LittleBlue  Jun 2013  #61  
demwing  Jun 2013  #157  
Mr_Calculus  Sep 2013  #165  
NoGOPZone  Jun 2013  #21  
tiny elvis  Jun 2013  #29  
NoGOPZone  Jun 2013  #36  
tiny elvis  Jun 2013  #22  
Capt.Rocky300  Jun 2013  #23  
Lady Freedom Returns  Jun 2013  #24  
cbayer  Jun 2013  #25  
catnhatnh  Jun 2013  #26  
onehandle  Jun 2013  #27  
tiny elvis  Jun 2013  #32  
Calista241  Jun 2013  #28  
catnhatnh  Jun 2013  #30  
truebluegreen  Jun 2013  #50  
TheCowsCameHome  Jun 2013  #31  
Aerows  Jun 2013  #38  
DCBob  Jun 2013  #33  
LuvNewcastle  Jun 2013  #109  
DCBob  Jun 2013  #110  
LuvNewcastle  Jun 2013  #111  
dimbear  Jun 2013  #37  
Shankapotomus  Jun 2013  #40  
baldguy  Jun 2013  #41  
ThomThom  Jun 2013  #72  
jorno67  Jun 2013  #42  
Earth_First  Jun 2013  #43  
alphafemale  Jun 2013  #44  
HiPointDem  Jun 2013  #45  
Uzair  Jun 2013  #46  
Buns_of_Fire  Jun 2013  #47  
Tuesday Afternoon  Jun 2013  #60  
truebluegreen  Jun 2013  #48  
JVS  Jun 2013  #49  
GiveMeFreedom  Jun 2013  #51  
Jamastiene  Jun 2013  #52  
cherokeeprogressive  Jun 2013  #53  
Uzair  Jun 2013  #54  
Buns_of_Fire  Jun 2013  #59  
Tx4obama  Jun 2013  #55  
Tuesday Afternoon  Jun 2013  #57  
hack89  Jun 2013  #58  
IDemo  Jun 2013  #62  
geckosfeet  Jun 2013  #68  
Jamastiene  Jun 2013  #84  
stevenleser  Jun 2013  #63  
stevenleser  Jun 2013  #65  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #105  
Tx4obama  Jun 2013  #64  
Skip Intro  Jun 2013  #66  
CanonRay  Jun 2013  #155  
geckosfeet  Jun 2013  #67  
liberal_at_heart  Jun 2013  #99  
frogmarch  Jun 2013  #69  
Skittles  Jun 2013  #70  
tjwash  Jun 2013  #71  
reformist2  Jun 2013  #73  
IDemo  Jun 2013  #74  
Jamastiene  Jun 2013  #83  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #106  
IDemo  Jun 2013  #124  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #125  
IDemo  Jun 2013  #128  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #129  
xocet  Jun 2013  #145  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #149  
djean111  Jun 2013  #75  
kristopher  Jun 2013  #76  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #107  
kristopher  Jun 2013  #135  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #136  
kristopher  Jun 2013  #137  
kristopher  Jun 2013  #138  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #139  
kristopher  Jun 2013  #143  
sofa king  Jun 2013  #77  
morningfog  Jun 2013  #78  
RedCappedBandit  Jun 2013  #79  
immoderate  Jun 2013  #80  
SidDithers  Jun 2013  #81  
dipsydoodle  Jun 2013  #82  
DuckBurp  Jun 2013  #85  
Uzair  Jun 2013  #86  
fried eggs  Jun 2013  #87  
Tx4obama  Jun 2013  #88  
DCBob  Jun 2013  #108  
hughee99  Jun 2013  #89  
Tikki  Jun 2013  #92  
Uzair  Jun 2013  #116  
Tikki  Jun 2013  #121  
Tx4obama  Jun 2013  #97  
hughee99  Jun 2013  #102  
Uzair  Jun 2013  #115  
muriel_volestrangler  Jun 2013  #117  
hughee99  Jun 2013  #130  
sibelian  Jun 2013  #114  
NoGOPZone  Jun 2013  #134  
cherokeeprogressive  Jun 2013  #90  
Rowdyboy  Jun 2013  #91  
LostOne4Ever  Jun 2013  #93  
Ligyron  Jun 2013  #113  
Coyotl  Jun 2013  #94  
Rex  Jun 2013  #95  
Demo_Chris  Jun 2013  #96  
liberal_at_heart  Jun 2013  #98  
burnodo  Jun 2013  #118  
Egalitarian Thug  Jun 2013  #100  
Petrushka  Jun 2013  #101  
pansypoo53219  Jun 2013  #103  
lob1  Jun 2013  #104  
Recursion  Jun 2013  #112  
socialist_n_TN  Jun 2013  #119  
krispos42  Jun 2013  #120  
lame54  Jun 2013  #122  
MineralMan  Jun 2013  #123  
Tikki  Jun 2013  #126  
MineralMan  Jun 2013  #127  
RudynJack  Jun 2013  #131  
TeeYiYi  Jun 2013  #132  
WinkyDink  Jun 2013  #133  
shawn703  Jun 2013  #140  
Phillip McCleod  Jun 2013  #141  
davekriss  Jun 2013  #142  
tblue37  Jun 2013  #144  
TreasonousBastard  Jun 2013  #147  
u4ic  Jun 2013  #148  
denbot  Jun 2013  #150  
Atman  Jun 2013  #151  
aquart  Jun 2013  #152  
VOX  Jun 2013  #153  
Dash87  Jun 2013  #154  
demwing  Jun 2013  #156  
11 Bravo  Jun 2013  #158  
gbloncourt  Aug 2013  #159  
NRaleighLiberal  Aug 2013  #160  
cyberswede  Aug 2013  #161  
Tuesday Afternoon  Aug 2013  #162  
Mr_Calculus  Sep 2013  #163  
gopiscrap  Sep 2013  #164 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:50 PM
enlightenment (8,830 posts)
1. ARGH.
got it wrong twice. I quit.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:50 PM
cherokeeprogressive (24,504 posts)
2. 9?
Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #2)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:12 AM
Zorra (27,670 posts)
146. If 6 was 9...
Response to longship (Reply #4)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
customerserviceguy (17,273 posts)
9. So right
I'm sure many people get thrown by the equal sign

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:52 PM
kentuck (75,855 posts)
6. I got a half dozen.
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:52 PM
ZombieHorde (28,683 posts)
7. The next number in the patern is six.
I'm no genius.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
Happyhippychick (6,620 posts)
10. 6
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
X_Digger (17,078 posts)
11. 6. It's X * (X1) n/t
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:53 PM
bemildred (89,532 posts)
12. 6.
Series: 2 6 12 20 30 42 56 72
Differences: 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 X * ( X+1 ) works too, as noted before. 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
Cronus Protagonist (15,574 posts)
13. 6
Looks like they skipped one in the sequence to throw us off.
9=72 8=56 7=42 *puff* 6=30 5=20 4=12 3=6 2=2 1=0 0=0 end program 
Response to Cronus Protagonist (Reply #13)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:58 PM
kentuck (75,855 posts)
19. Yep.
It was a trick question that required closer observation.

Response to kentuck (Reply #19)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:15 PM
Aerows (39,709 posts)
34. I got it in one
Yay me.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
BainsBane (36,683 posts)
14. If I can solve a math problem
You don't need to be a genius. I'm innumerate. The answer is 9.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:55 PM
liberal N proud (52,981 posts)
16. 9
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #16)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:16 PM
Aerows (39,709 posts)
35. Nope
It's a regressive logic puzzle. The answer is 6.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:01 PM
LittleBlue (9,849 posts)
20. 6
Genius?
If the number on the left is X, the number on the right is X^2  X Not sure about the equals sign, that's not appropriate 
Response to LittleBlue (Reply #20)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:35 PM
fried eggs (874 posts)
56. Are you a mathematician?
I got 6 too, but my logic was that the number on the left was being multiplied by 8,7,6,5,... but your approach is superior because it works even if people don't realize that the left side skips from 5 to 3.

Response to fried eggs (Reply #56)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:38 PM
LittleBlue (9,849 posts)
61. nah
Did take a lot of math that I never used, though
Checked and someone did it up the page but factored the X out x^2 x = x (x1) 
Response to LittleBlue (Reply #20)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:31 AM
demwing (16,771 posts)
157. or X*(X1)
Last edited Wed Sep 25, 2013, 06:27 AM  Edit history (1) 3(31)=6
(3^2)=6 Same stuff... 
Response to demwing (Reply #157)
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:50 PM
Mr_Calculus (2 posts)
165. DING DING DING: CORRECT!
f(x)=x^2x; or: f(x)=x1) are correct...in that both get you to the correct answer.
BUT, f(x)=x^2x is the absolutely correct response! 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:04 PM
NoGOPZone (2,970 posts)
21. 3=3
reflexive property

Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #21)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:09 PM
tiny elvis (979 posts)
29. you win this time, NoGOPZone >:(
Response to tiny elvis (Reply #29)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:17 PM
NoGOPZone (2,970 posts)
36. a fraction of a second faster. My internet connection must be good tonight nt
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:04 PM
tiny elvis (979 posts)
22. 3=3
it does not matter if the first five equations are wrong
are you genius? 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:04 PM
Capt.Rocky300 (1,005 posts)
23. Can I change my answer? Please?
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:05 PM
Lady Freedom Returns (8,500 posts)
24. Answer.
9=72 (56 +16)
8=56 (42+ 14) 7=42 (20+12) 5=20 (12+8) 4=12 (6+6) 3=6 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:08 PM
onehandle (49,864 posts)
27. Blue? nt
Response to onehandle (Reply #27)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:13 PM
tiny elvis (979 posts)
32. celebrity jeopardy!
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:09 PM
Calista241 (1,621 posts)
28. 6
But I'm a math idiot. So probably wrong.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:10 PM
catnhatnh (8,876 posts)
30. I make the pattern X times (X1)=
that it?

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:11 PM
TheCowsCameHome (33,144 posts)
31. 3
sequential 8 7 6 5 4 ...... 3

Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #31)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:18 PM
Aerows (39,709 posts)
38. It could be that, too
since 3 is a prime number and you can't divide anything by it. It's a trick question, but mathematically the answer is 6 but there are about 5 different ways to make it work. You can look at it as a regressive formula, or also as simple addition and subtraction.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:13 PM
DCBob (24,205 posts)
33. 6 (3*2)
9*8=72
8*7=56 7*6=42 6*5=30 5*4=20 4*3=12 3*2=6 easy. 
Response to DCBob (Reply #33)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:50 AM
LuvNewcastle (8,780 posts)
109. That's how I did it.
Looks like there's other ways people found to figure it out, too. I think our way is easiest.

Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #109)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:22 AM
DCBob (24,205 posts)
110. Yeah, but the thing that bothers me now is the red and blue.
I wonder what does that mean.. if anything.
Also look here.. the poster may not have the answer. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022968160#post87 ugh. 
Response to DCBob (Reply #110)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:31 AM
LuvNewcastle (8,780 posts)
111. Aww, hell, no fair!
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:18 PM
dimbear (6,271 posts)
37. You can't miss on this quiz, because once 9=72, all numbers are equal.
Simplifies math a good bit.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:20 PM
Shankapotomus (4,497 posts)
40. 6 nt
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:21 PM
baldguy (35,447 posts)
41. 6
9 (*8) = 72
8 (*7) = 56 7 (*6) = 42 6 (*5) = 30 5 (*4) = 20 4 (*3) = 12 3 *2 = 6 And who is Agent Steve? Has Agent Mike been replaced? 
Response to baldguy (Reply #41)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:25 PM
ThomThom (1,486 posts)
72. No, Steve is the night shift
Mikes out getting high on someone else's smoke
You think he could hang out here and not get fuckedup 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:22 PM
Earth_First (14,860 posts)
43. I'd like to poll the fourm...
Please pick up the polling device located on the seat back of the chair in front of you and select your answer...

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:22 PM
alphafemale (15,505 posts)
44. The answer is 6. And I know why.
9 x 9  9
8 x 8  8 etc 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:23 PM
Uzair (241 posts)
46. 24. I win.
Where is my prize?

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:29 PM
Buns_of_Fire (10,295 posts)
47. 6. Although if Calvin is giving it, the correct answer is "chocolate." nt
Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #47)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:37 PM
Tuesday Afternoon (56,910 posts)
60. the correct answer is always chocolate in my world
or bacon

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:31 PM
JVS (61,932 posts)
49. Trick question. 3=3
First of all, they're trying to trick you by saying 9=72, 8=56 and so on into order for you to recognize a pattern n=n*(n1). But that isn't how the equality relationship works. n=n for all n. They know that people will over think it and interpret it as a congruence relationship. But that isn't technically what they wrote.
Then they're also trying to trick you by skipping from 5 to 4, so that you get out of sequence and answer 9 instead of 6. 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:31 PM
GiveMeFreedom (976 posts)
51. There is no spoon. n/t
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jamastiene (35,758 posts)
52. 6
I got it wrong the first time I saw it because I didn't notice the 4 was missing.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:33 PM
cherokeeprogressive (24,504 posts)
53. Why can't 6 AND 9 be right?
Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #53)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:34 PM
Uzair (241 posts)
54. Because they're both wrong.
The answer is 24.

Response to Uzair (Reply #54)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:37 PM
Buns_of_Fire (10,295 posts)
59. But I thought the answer to everything was 42.
Lordy, I'm SO confused now...

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:34 PM
Tx4obama (36,974 posts)
55. Answer: Three = 6
10 = 90 9 = 72 then (+18 = 90) 8 = 56 then (+16 = 72) 7 = 42 then (+14 = 56) 6 = 30 then (+12 = 42) 5 = 20 then (+10 = 30) 4 = 12 then (+8 = 20) 3 = 6 then (+6 = 12) 2 = 2 then (+4 = 6) 1 = 0 then (+2 = 2) Read from the bottom up 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:36 PM
Tuesday Afternoon (56,910 posts)
57. 3 x 2 = 6
I think I see a pattern
and I love Calvin might be a poet even 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:40 PM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
62. There is no single solution without further info
It could be 6 if you assume the formula is X * (X1)
It would equal null if it's X * the numeral below X (there is none below 3, not even zero) Not sure where folks are getting 9. 
Response to IDemo (Reply #62)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:02 PM
geckosfeet (9,644 posts)
68. the progression/equation appears to be X*(X1)=Y
But I agree  there is some ambiguity.

Response to IDemo (Reply #62)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jamastiene (35,758 posts)
84. They don't notice the 4 is not there.
I made the same mistake on FB early this morning when I first woke up. That'll teach me to try to do weird FB math first thing in the morning.

Response to stevenleser (Reply #63)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:56 PM
stevenleser (28,937 posts)
65. Can also be 14 actually.
Formula could also be (Previous value of x) (x+x)
So 8=56 7=42 or 56(7+7) 6=30 or 42(6+6) 5=20 or 30(5+5) 3=14 or 20(3+3) 
Response to stevenleser (Reply #65)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:31 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
105. Then how would you have got '9=72'? (nt)
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:52 PM
Tx4obama (36,974 posts)
64. If the red numbers are separate from the blue ones then... 3 could be 21
9 = 72 (9 x 8 = 72) 3 = 21 (3 x 7 = 21) 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:57 PM
Skip Intro (19,768 posts)
66. It is 12 because...
On the equals side of the list of equations, starting with 20 and going up, the difference between each starts with ten, (3020) and increases by two. Using that logic, if we move down from 20 on the same side, and figure the answer is the difference between 20 and 8, we end up with 12. Maybe there's more than one answer, but that's one. 
Response to Skip Intro (Reply #66)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:11 AM
CanonRay (7,111 posts)
155. Yes, it's twelve
I got there a different way, but same answer.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:00 PM
geckosfeet (9,644 posts)
67. 6
9x8=72
8x7=56 7x6=42 (Yay Arthur Dent) 6x5=30 5x4=20 4x3=12 3x2=6 
Response to geckosfeet (Reply #67)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:49 AM
liberal_at_heart (12,081 posts)
99. oh damn, I fell for it. I said 12.
That's what I get for trying to do it in my head. I cannot do math in my head. I always have to write it down.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:15 PM
Skittles (106,930 posts)
70. I get ?? = 6
what's the answer?

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:24 PM
tjwash (8,219 posts)
71. It is 6 Y=X(X1) Facebook has been getting flooded with this stuff lately
I like the order of operations ones that everyone forgets how to do:
1*3+1(3+8*3)4=?? 
Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:28 PM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
73. I disagree strongly with the use of the equal sign here. Should be an arrow, or a colon.
Response to reformist2 (Reply #73)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:38 PM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
74. True that
It's labeled as a math quiz but violates the rules. 3 equals 3, always.

Response to reformist2 (Reply #73)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jamastiene (35,758 posts)
83. Same here.
3=3 Period
All those others equal themselves with no x or other value added behind the original number. 
Response to reformist2 (Reply #73)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:32 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
106. You better stay away from computer programming, then
The repeated use of "x=x+1" will drive you mad.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #106)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:50 AM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
124. The difference between programming and math
In code, "x=x+1" uses a single equals sign as an assignment operator, meaning the right side is evaluated and the resulting value then assigned to the left side. But the expression x=x+1 will never be true in arithmetic. You can do that with a programming variable, but you can't arbitrarily make 9 = 72 in math; it's an invalid operation.
Essentially the only relevant part of the socalled "math" quiz is the last line: 3 = ??, where the answer is obviously 3. Everything above that point is meaningless. If they want to call 3.14 = cherry pie, they can call it a puzzle or riddle. 
Response to IDemo (Reply #124)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:05 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
125. So you arbitrarily declare most of the quiz 'meaningless'?
A quiz is not a formal examination; it doesn't mean that what appears in it must be something you could write in a mathematical paper. Quizzes can include puzzles.
If you really want to say that the answer must be something that is equal to the '3' on the left of the equals sign, then there are an infinite number of 'correct' solutions; 41, 2522, 1 * 3, the real cube root of 27, etc. Which are all more interesting than putting '3' there. 
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #125)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:09 AM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
128. If you want to call it a 'math' quiz, you can't include illegal operations
As I said, 9 will never equal 72, even in extremely large cases of 9. And yes, you can enter anything on the righthand side of the equals sign that evaluates to the value on the left. That doesn't change my point.

Response to IDemo (Reply #128)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:20 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
129. It's a 'math' quiz because math helps gets you the solution
You consider the given relations, and use knowledge of mathematical operations like multiplication and subtraction to find the pattern.
Your answer is tediously pedantic and uninteresting; and not as funny as another literal answer to a math problem: 
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #125)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:53 AM
xocet (3,028 posts)
145. You bring up the interesting point...
that (integer) 3 is an equivalence class  (m,n) where mn = 3.
If every different expression that is equal to three is allowed as an answer, what type of infinity is being discussed? Countable, Uncountable, ... ? Do you happen to know the answer? Off hand, I don't, but it seems like a countable infinity would be too small... 
Response to xocet (Reply #145)
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 05:30 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
149. Types of infinity were about the point my brain started hurting in maths
and which convinced me I shouldn't try to study it at university, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. But since there are many (infinite?) operations as well as infinite numbers you can put into the numbers, perhaps it is uncountable.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:42 PM
djean111 (14,254 posts)
75. 6
Just a simple progression, 7x8, 6x7, 5x6, etc.

Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:44 PM
kristopher (28,860 posts)
76. 14
14+(2x3)=20
20+(2X5)=30 30+(2x6)=42 42+(2x7)=56 56+(2x8)=72 
Response to kristopher (Reply #76)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:38 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
107. But you haven't used the 9 in the top line
You've calculated the '72' from all the numbers on the left below it, but ignored the '9' entirely. Not as elegant as just using the number on the left of each '=' to get the number on the right (ie the 'n=n(n1)' formula most have used), I think.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #107)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:19 PM
kristopher (28,860 posts)
135. I also haven't added to the presented pattern
There is no 4 in the pattern. You can infer it, but strictly speaking without it the other answers lack symmetry. This is a code, and the "=" does not have the same function as it would in a math equation.
ETA: Forgot to address the 9. That is only used to continue the pattern to 10=90. 72+(2X9)=90 
Response to kristopher (Reply #135)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:35 PM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
136. It doesn't need to be a strict sequence to show a pattern
so a '4=12' line is unnecessary. I agree that it's a code, and '=' does not have the function it would in an equation; but, in fact, by putting it in your form, you make it less of a code. If it's a code, we can say "the '=' sign means 'multiplied by the number one less than itself is'". Your interpretation means you have to use each number on the right in 2 statements.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #136)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:41 PM
kristopher (28,860 posts)
137. I recognize that you don't require the entire sequence
But you also do not need to place a gap in the sequence. Also, your answer could be obtained with confidence from only 2 samples.
Yes it means you have to use the number in two statements  that is what turns it into a definitive pattern. 
Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #136)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:03 PM
kristopher (28,860 posts)
138. Another point to consider
If this were to be used in a code, remember that the idea is to disguise the information. The sender and receiver have the key, but those possibly intercepting the code must derive the meaning without the cipher.
Which answer accomplishes that? 
Response to kristopher (Reply #138)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:20 PM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
139. Codes don't have to disguise information
Think, for instance, of ASCII  American Standard Code for Information Interchange. A cipher is always meant to disguise.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #139)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:39 PM
kristopher (28,860 posts)
143. They don't 'have to', but that is the traditional function  especially in puzzles.
Like many problems, it isn't defined well enough to have a single unambiguous answer. I maintain, however, that 14 is the most symmetrical solution.

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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:46 PM
sofa king (9,864 posts)
77. Wrong!
4 * 3 = 12
3 * 2 = 6 Hahaha. My first guess is always wrong. 
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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:46 PM
morningfog (17,708 posts)
78. 6, pretty easy.
Taken further, 2=2, 1=0.

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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:52 PM
RedCappedBandit (5,514 posts)
79. Yeah, I got six as well
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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:53 PM
immoderate (20,542 posts)
80. Put me down for 6  which is the answer.
imm 
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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:55 PM
SidDithers (40,773 posts)
81. Answer is 6...nt
Sid

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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:56 PM
dipsydoodle (42,239 posts)
82. Six
What's with the genius bit ?

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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:29 PM
Uzair (241 posts)
86. I am the ONLY GENIUS here. The Answer is 24. Here is why.
If the numbers on the left side of each equal sign progressed from 9 to 3, as in 9,8,7,6,5,4,3, this answer wouldn't work. However, they "skip" the 4 because the sequence 8,7,6,5 ends at 5. That's why that sequence is colored BLUE. The pattern in the BLUE sequence of numbers is what everybody in this thread is saying: left number "equals" left number minus 1 multiplied by left number.
Also, those who are saying that the equals sign is always an equals sign and therefore "3=3" is the answer are missing the point that every single other "equation" evaluates to "false". If you want to be logical about it, then, you would say your answer is 3 "equals" anything OTHER than 3. Now, the red "equations" are an entirely different sequence. That's why they're colored red. There is NO REASON to color the "3=??" one red other than to distinguish it from the fact that it is completely UNREALTED to the blue ones and paired up with the only OTHER red one: The "9=72" one. Coloring "3=??" red makes it clear that there is no "skipping" of the 4. Thus we only have two "equations" to work with. 9=72 3=?? The only relationship between numbers that we have to work with are 9 and 72, Now 9 times 8 equals 72. Therefore 3 times 8 equals 24. But why multiply by 8? Because if we're going to assume that this is a sequence with some kind of logic behind it, then this makes both of these terms, namely term 3 and term 9, related only with whatever relationship we can find between 9 and 3. The relationship between 9 and 3 must also agree with our previous answer, though, when applied to the number 72. Notice that 9 divided by 3 equals 3: Therefore 72 divided by 3 equals 24. Again, we arrive at 24. QED. 
Response to Uzair (Reply #86)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:56 PM
fried eggs (874 posts)
87. You might be right
but I don't think the graphic provides enough information to solve the problem. Every answer requires making assumptions that are not explicitly stated. 6 assumes the author left out the 4 to trick us; 9 assumes the author didn't intend for the left side to follow a sequence; and 24 assumes the colors are intentionally different. So I guess we'll never really know. lol

Response to fried eggs (Reply #87)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:27 AM
Tx4obama (36,974 posts)
88. What do you mean WE'LL NEVER KNOW? Don't you have the answer?
Response to fried eggs (Reply #87)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:48 AM
DCBob (24,205 posts)
108. Hey egghead... there better be an answer..
or was this just entirely a game?
Fun regardless... 
Response to Uzair (Reply #86)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:47 AM
hughee99 (14,239 posts)
89. By roughly the same logic, why not 21?
The only difference being that the for the red equations, the answer on the left is the sum of the digits on the right?
9=72 (9=7+2) 3=21 (3=2+1) I guess this solution would also leave the question, though, of why wouldn't "12" be a correct answer If this problem is asking people to look for patterns and apply them to find an answer, a number of different patters can be found leading to a number of different answers without more information. 
Response to hughee99 (Reply #89)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:52 AM
Tikki (11,723 posts)
92. Also, 21...
red descending from the blue pattern above...just a thought.
Tikki 
Response to Tikki (Reply #92)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:31 AM
Uzair (241 posts)
116. There's no reason to assume that, though (nt)

Response to Uzair (Reply #116)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:08 AM
Tikki (11,723 posts)
121. OMG..you are my Philosophy Professor...come back to haunt me...:)
Tikki 
Response to hughee99 (Reply #89)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:42 AM
Tx4obama (36,974 posts)
97. I just want to say that on this thread I was the first to say: 21
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #97)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:08 AM
hughee99 (14,239 posts)
102. I didn't notice before, but you did beat me to it.
I see we both came up with different reasons too.

Response to hughee99 (Reply #89)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:29 AM
Uzair (241 posts)
115. You answered your own question
My solution is found in two different ways with no ambiguity.
If the pattern is "sum of the digits", then you're lead to an ambiguous solution. It can be EITHER 12 or 21, there's no way to know. The same thing goes for people saying it's 6 or 9, "depending on"... If you have an ambiguous solution, you don't have the solution. 
Response to Uzair (Reply #115)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:35 AM
muriel_volestrangler (80,443 posts)
117. Do you seriously think your 'solution' is not only unambiguous, but actually 'better'
than the straightforward '6' answer? And that it's "found in two different ways"?

Response to Uzair (Reply #115)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
hughee99 (14,239 posts)
130. Yes, but since we're already assuming so many things not stated
All I have to do is assume the larger number comes first. 72 and 21. Now it's not ambiguous anymore.

Response to Uzair (Reply #86)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:53 AM
sibelian (7,794 posts)
114. The logic behind your solution is as good as any other.
I think you're quite good at this sort of thing. 
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Response to fried eggs (Original post)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:50 AM
cherokeeprogressive (24,504 posts)
90. The ANSWER is THERE ARE NUMEROUS CORRECT ANSWERS.
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:50 AM
Rowdyboy (22,057 posts)
91. Totally took me in...Wish I'd seen it earlier. We had guests that I would love to have skunked
Thanks

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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:52 AM
LostOne4Ever (7,443 posts)
93. The solution
to life, the universe, and everything was already disclosed by Douglas Adams as 42.
Therefore 7 is the question. As for the pattern? 6. 
Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #93)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:51 AM
Ligyron (441 posts)
113. the solution is color. Red. therefore 14
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:57 AM
Coyotl (10,822 posts)
94. three equals three, of course.
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:45 AM
liberal_at_heart (12,081 posts)
98. 12?
Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #98)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:38 AM
burnodo (2,017 posts)
118. oops! didn't see the step
should be 6

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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:54 AM
Egalitarian Thug (12,448 posts)
100. Apparently, not drooling is the only remaining qualification for being a "genius" anymore. n/t
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:07 AM
Petrushka (3,359 posts)
101. 6
4 = 12
3 = 6 
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:14 AM
pansypoo53219 (11,887 posts)
103. NO WANT!
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:14 AM
lob1 (3,819 posts)
104. Number Six, like the Prisoner.
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:41 AM
Recursion (49,513 posts)
112. Ambiguous. 3, 6, or something else
If the invisible functor is stateful, it could be anything, though 9 is attractive.
If it's stateless, it's 6. If there is no invisible functor and the sentences at the top are false, it's 3 
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:55 AM
socialist_n_TN (11,067 posts)
119. Math (or arithmetic) was never my best subject, BUT....
I'd say 6. All of these numbers on the right side are the product of the number on the left multiplied by the next number down, i.e., 9x8=72, 8x7=56, etc.) Ergo, the last one would be 3x2=6. So the answer would be 6.

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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:49 AM
krispos42 (47,365 posts)
120. 6
4 should be 12, 3 should be 6

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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:24 AM
MineralMan (85,333 posts)
123. Since the series is broken, and because 9 and 3 are
differentiated by having the same, different color. I use the red formula, which is x*8=y and arrive at 24 as the answer. Were it not for the color difference, I would assume the series x*(x1) = y and say 6.
But, due to the color difference, 9 and 3 are marked as not part of the series. The missing 4=12 further indicates that it is not the series we are looking at but the red colored numbers. However, since the equation itself is invalid as presented, I would be annoyed at the question and would refuse to answer, which is the correct answer, really. On Error Resume Next If color = red Then y = x*(x1) Elseif color = blue Then y = x*8 Endif End 
Response to MineralMan (Reply #123)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:05 AM
Tikki (11,723 posts)
126. For the rightbrained among us.."If 6 turned out to be 9" and "7 and 7 is"...
:}
Tikki 
Response to Tikki (Reply #126)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:09 AM
MineralMan (85,333 posts)
127. And for the ambidextrous among us, yes.
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:24 AM
RudynJack (1,044 posts)
131. without reading the responses...
I got 6.
9x8 7x6 6x5 5x4 3x2 = 6 
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:11 PM
WinkyDink (45,277 posts)
133. 6, for Pete's sake. Every number is multiplied by its predecessor (9X8; 8X7; 7X6; ....)
The missing one is:
4 = 12. (4X3) 
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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:25 PM
shawn703 (2,588 posts)
140. I go for 6
Looks to be x * (x1) for each number.

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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:11 PM
Phillip McCleod (1,837 posts)
141. i know the answer you want & there was arithmetic..
.. but this is not a math quiz.
Dead giveaway? 9 Does not equal 72. Ever. If it was a math quiz you'd use the function map arrow. 
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:25 AM
tblue37 (19,268 posts)
144. 6?
ON EDIT: Because the product in each of these equations is always the answer you get when you multiply the multiplicand by a multiplier that is one less than itself:
a x (a1) = b 3 x (31) = 6 
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:06 AM
TreasonousBastard (27,111 posts)
147. There is, of course, no right answer and the psychology types here should...
recognize this as one of those tests which doesn't look for a correct answer, but for your approach to an answer. Dunno if people are still using this stuff in job interviews, but it is interesting.
"5=20" is meaningless except as a definition, and we're not told what is being defined and where the definition is being used. It could e part of some odd computer code where that sort of identity is common but usually using more sensible variables. So, I jumped on 6, simplistically using the x1 thing and that is one acceptable answer. However, it is simplistic and obvious and those of us using it are on the low end. Others, coming up with other rational and more elegant solutions are also "correct" but show more creativity in their answers. If I were using this as a hiring tool, I'd put those who answered "6" in one "acceptable" pile, but some of the other answers might go into the "callback" pile. (While fully understanding, however, that brilliant flights of fancy often get in the way of actually doing the job.) 
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:00 AM
denbot (5,133 posts)
150. What happened to agent Mike?
Did he view one too many kitty videos, and go all granola on the bureau?

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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:13 AM
Atman (29,667 posts)
151. Benghazi.
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:24 AM
aquart (69,014 posts)
152. 6. Sneaky to leave out the four.
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:43 AM
VOX (15,961 posts)
153. Not possible, insufficient info available. IF color matters, 24. Or 6. Or ???
The sequencing does not specify if the differing colors of red and blue have any bearing on the actual calculation. If not, the answer would be 6...but that can't be said for certain.
If color does matter, 24 would be a reasonable guess, if the "invisible" value 8 in the single other red equation of 9 =72 applies to all other red equations. But that's unknown as well  there are only two red equations visible  not enough info to establish any pattern...the answer to 3=??? could really be anything. 
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 09:56 AM
Dash87 (3,220 posts)
154. The correct answer is threeve, Alex
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:26 AM
demwing (16,771 posts)
156. Easy Breezy
1(*0)=0
2(*1)=2 3(*2)=6 4(*3)=12 5(*4)=20 6(*5)=30 7(*6)=42 8(*7)=56 9(*8)=72 10(*9)=90 etc 
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Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:11 AM
11 Bravo (18,760 posts)
158. 6 (The factors that aren't shown decrease by one sequentially.) 4(x3)=12 and 3(x2)=6
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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:02 PM
gbloncourt (1 post)
159. The correct answer is 9
We have to consider each line number...
number x 3+number x line# =.... Line 5: 9*3+9*5 = 72 Line 4: 8*3+8*4 = 56 Line 3: 7*3+7*3 = 42 Line 2: 6*3+6*2 = 30 Line 1: 5*3+5*1 = 20 Line 0: 3*3+3*0 = 9 
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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:10 PM
NRaleighLiberal (39,876 posts)
160. 6. n/t
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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:50 PM
cyberswede (25,432 posts)
161. I get 6...
But I'm definitely no genius.

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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:22 PM
Tuesday Afternoon (56,910 posts)
162. the next multiplier would be three. Making the answer Nine.
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Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:42 PM
Mr_Calculus (2 posts)
163. The answer is NOT patterns, per se...
It is actually an equation, f(x)=x^2x (x squared minus x) ; or, if factoredout: f(x)=x1)
ALL of the pattern suggestions are WRONG! The correct answer, like it, or not, is: 6 f(8)=8*88=56 f(7)=7*77=42 f(6)=6*66=30 f(5)=5*55=20 f(3)=3*33=6 It is NOT that this took a "genius", it's more than one had to go back and revisit how to generate an equation for ALGEBRA! You're welcome! 
Response to Mr_Calculus (Reply #163)
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 11:46 PM
gopiscrap (12,913 posts)