When Bushies defend Obama, you know something is wrong

[BainsBane]

Ari Fleischer is on CNN defending PRISM.

[villager]

1. John Yoo was defending it too. Great company, eh?

n/t

[BainsBane]

2. Gross

That really says something, doesn't it?

[BehindTheCurtain76]

26. EvilAri

Ari has the most evil eyes and grin I have seen in a while other than Pope Benedict. Do not believe for one second they only spy on foreign communications....that monolithic NSA building is meant for Americans. MAybe one component of one program focused on overseas contacts but most is to record every keystroke, password, chat msg, text, video etc made by EVERY American...this is what fascism brings when people dont put a spike in it initially. In fact, Obama has rehabilitated the Bush family image by not prosecuting and even defending and continuing his policies just like Bill Clinton did for Daddy Bush so expect Jeb Bush in 2016 and if he loses unexpectedly then they will have their B-Team war hawk, police state back-up with Hillary. I remember the 1992 PBS roundtable primary debate well...Jerry brown had them throw a photo of Bill Clinton and Sam Nunn 'inspecting' a boot camp in GA of all African Americans drug war arrestees in a private prison chain-gang complete with zebra stripped fatigues. Bill turned beet red and turned to Jerry with hatred in his eyes as he angrily yelled, "You don't know what you're messing with, Jerry!" Well now we do know as Daddy Bush refers to Bill as his 5th son after 2000 and the disgusting display at the coronation of the GW Bush library. One big happy family as they laugh all the way to the bank. Ari is the worst as we saw after 2001 as he used that tragedy to turn us to fascism. Expect them to use all this Patriot Act stuff in the future for any reason whether it be political, journalistic, personally embarrassing or potentially criminal...this is an evil beast that needs to be ended or we don't live in a free country anymore and there are no freedoms to defend in these pointless foreign wars. How I yearn for Paul Wellstone and Russ Feingold.

[red dog 1]

36. You gotta' love Jerry Brown.

I yearn for Paul Wellstone & Russ Feingold too.

Russ Feingold finds NSA Report "Deeply Troubling"
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/06/russ_feingold_nsa_report_deeply_troubling.html/

[red dog 1]

38. When Yoo do that voodoo that Yoo do so well

"Bush Torture Architect John Yoo Defends Obama Administration - Again"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/06/1214339/-John-Yoo-defends-Obama-Administration-Again.html/

[quinnox]

3. yep. The Bush toadies are all over the place, defending their idiot Bush, and his spying shit

and its disgusting.

[Dawson Leery]

4. Agreed.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

5. what does it say about those defending it here?

of all places!

It is not only disgusting, but also un-American to support something that goes against our constitutional rights, and should be grounds for a tombstone, imho.

I took an oath when I joined our military to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; to bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and I will be damned if I will tolerate attacks against it now on the internet, especially on my chosen political discussion site that reports to represent the same values I hold dear.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/oathofenlist.htm

It is time for all Americans to stand up and defend our constitutional rights, we on DU have been doing so since 2001, do NOT expect us to change now!

[Fumesucker]

6. "Americans need to watch what they say, watch what they do." -Ari Fleischer, govt spokesman, 2001

[jeff47]

7. When Democrats ignore cuts to food stamps, you know something is wrong.

But hey, let's spend all our time talking about an 8-year-old program instead. That's far more convenient to the Democratic senators who just voted to cut food stamps.

[BainsBane]

8. right, violating the Fourth Amendment

is a mere distraction.
It is possible to care about more than one thing at a time.

[jeff47]

11. Doesn't look like we can care about more than one thing at a time.

Number of post on the 'Greatest' page about cuts to food stamps/SNAP? 0.
Number of posts on this 8-year-old program which is suddenly a big deal? Tons.

Yeah, look at all that multitasking.

[BainsBane]

13. DU isn't a reflection of real life

or the nation's political priorities. People here are prone to hysteria. Still, you're quite right that far too few care about food stamp cuts. Do you have a tally of the vote?

[jeff47]

17. Cloture vote was yesterday (It's in the Farm Bill). Final vote is Monday.

Yea Votes for Cloture: All Democrats. 22 Republicans.

Cuts SNAP less than the House bill, but still cuts it.

Bill itself is here: http://www.ag.senate.gov/issues/farm-bill

[TheKentuckian]

23. Hell, if that was "the hot topic" then the same folks would be defending that indefensible

as are doing so on this one, citing the House bill that must be reconciled with and "having to get something passed" getting set up for the good old "he had to sign the bill, what about the good stuff" line.

I grow weary of the games and talk of games.

[KoKo]

9. Oh My...Ari doesn't want Obama to take the Heat for Prism?

Does that mean the Bushies are worried that the trail leads back to them...so they gotta defend Obama's Policies with Prism?

Wouldn't have thought they'd be that worried.

This must be a MUCH BIGGER revelation than anyone thought.

[BainsBane]

12. Actually he argued there was no problem with either President's use of the program

but he said Bush only did it for foreign communications, which I certainly don't believe.

[DirkGently]

10. Ari Fucking Fleisher. Any more questions as to whether

there's a problem here?

[BainsBane]

29. Not to mention John Yoo

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who someone upthread said was on cable earlier today defending Obama's surveillance programs.

[DirkGently]

42. GREAT. Now we're shoulder-to-shoulder with Mr.

1) The President can do anything when America is at war;

2) We are in a perpetual state of global war, because turrerrrrisssms.



Therefore, the President can do anything.

Nice. Great we're keeping ideological company the most famous fascists in American history.



What could go wrong?

[madokie]

14. Should be enough to tip, some of these caught up in the kook, off I would think

[bvar22]

15. DURec,

...and watching with fascination those twisting themselves into little knots either trying to defend this,
or frantically trying to change the subject.



You will know them by their WORKS.
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[GoneFishin]

20. Yeah. I noticed ... Look a SQUIRREL .... !

[rhett o rick]

16. The point is that as long as we frame this class war as between the D's and R's we will get screwed.

It's a major distraction. The war is between the Ruling Elite and the Masses. Penny Pritzker isnt on our side and she owns a piece of the president.

[BainsBane]

24. You mean a party war

Yes, good point.

[hay rick]

33. +

[TakeALeftTurn]

40. Exactly

.

[gulliver]

18. Greenwald clashed with Fleischer

The sliminess was of the same degree but the texture didn't coordinate well. They needed a border or belt. Maybe something in a slug motif. They just weren't working well together although they are soulmates under the scales.

[LittleBlue]

19. Indeed

K&R

[Skittles]

21. because it whitewashes bush inc.

it is DISGUSTING

[blkmusclmachine]

22. Well, to be fair, Obama has praised Papa Bush and Reagan repeatedly,

Just part of The Family.

[Iliyah]

25. The Bushies and crew don't want their

program exposed. If you guys really know what they did . . .

Plus as always they will claim National Security. Also Bush's lover boy Greenwald, I'm pretty they are pissed at him about now - LOL

[DisgustipatedinCA]

27. Happy to report I've recommended my first BB post. n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Many on DU are proud to stand with Ari, Woo, Lidsay Graham, and the Decider, GW Bush.

They do this, they say, because they are such staunch Democrats. Seems to me they are more like bipartisan centrists leaning toward the Lidsay Graham right.

[uponit7771]

30. That's problematic

[BainsBane]

35. to say the least

[Savannahmann]

31. Ok, so we're now in bed with Bush Co. And nobody at the White House is losing any sleep over this?

AT some point someone has to look into the mirror and ask themselves what it is we stand for, because all we stand for at the moment, is more of the same of the Republican bullshit.

[sabrina 1]

32. I felt sick to my stomach when I heard Ari Fleischer congratulate the person I have supported in two

elections for 'helping to protect the American people'.

Ari-the-Liar. Who would have thought during all that excitement in 2008 when we knew we had won, that would ever see this?

Disgusting. If that doesn't tell this president how wrong he is, nothing will.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

34. Wow.

I've just not had much to say lately....this decision by Obama..... it's hard to wrap my head around, and I admit that.

just hardly even know how to uh..cognitively process it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

37. Yay, for bipartisan CYA!!

[Blue Owl]

39. Sins of the Fleisch

A pox on those who defend W.

[YeahSureRight]

41. Speaks volumes about those here who defend it too

[TheKentuckian]

43. I propose that when you are fiercely circling the wagons and you look up and you are

riding along side John Yoo and lying ass Ari that it should prompt a true moment of reflection and to continue should have some thoughtful answers from down deep on why but that is just how I see it.

Hell, why not at least pump the damn brakes when contemplating where all this bullshit came from in the first place?

[BainsBane]

44. I agree