Man... I Hope You Guys Have Adobe Reader... (.pdf file) - Apparently We've Killed 4 Americans

[WillyT]

Link: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/AG_letter_5-22-13.pdf

[ProSense]

1. The

NYT story is posted here:

In a First, U.S. Admits Drones Have Killed 4 Americans Overseas.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022886339

[Spider Jerusalem]

2. And?

"Four American citizens"...who were fighting with Al-Qaeda. I have no problem with this. They chose to take up arms against the United States.

[Luminous Animal]

6. I guess you didn't read the part where Holder admits Alwaki's son was not specifically targetted.

So why was he killed?

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. Because he was there. Bad luck.

Drone strikes aren't like precision sniping.

[Luminous Animal]

12. Yes. Having an outdoor dinner with his young cousins.

[rug]

19. Oh, bad luck. That clears it up.

[DirkGently]

14. Two of them. Allegedly.

No trial. No due process. The other two Americans were drone-lateral damage. Innocent for all we know.

But hey, terrorism is scary, so who needs principals?

[madokie]

3. You really don't like this president do you

I see no problem with what has happened at all.
You want to take up arms against the usa, then be ready to suffer the consequences. Pretty fucking simple if you ask me

[HiPointDem]

4. and that applies to internal dissidents as well. or whoever the US labels as an 'enemy'. USA!

USA! USA!

'ours not to question why, ours but to love the lie!'

[Luminous Animal]

5. +1

He was never charged with a crime and never had access to due process.

[WillyT]

9. It's Interesting, The Ways The Defenders Of The Assault On The Bill Of Rights, Is Justified...

I guess we can now marry up...

9/11: "Everything has changed."

And 2008...

"Hope and Change"

NOT THE CHANGE I THOUGHT I WAS VOTING FOR.

And yet we have Donald Rumsfeld, and KKKarl Rove, lecturing (and attacking) this administration with virtual impunity in the press.

Way ta "look forward".

[WillyT]

10. And AGAIN... If George W. Bush Had Secretly Killed 4 Americans... In His Time In Office..

You would totally have supported that... right ???

[otohara]

23. It's Not Secret and Those Two Are Evil Liars

every time they opened their mouths out came more lies.

[madokie]

13. Whats the lie here?

[rug]

20. The Fifth Amendment.

[WillyT]

21. Well... For One... It's Politi-Speak... Which Is Lying In General...

I read those words, and wanted to puke, because of their bland, non-comittal, BULLSHIT.

Feel good platitudes, that represent NOTHING.

[DesMoinesDem]

8. None of these people took up arms against the US.

[Luminous Animal]

15. Exactly.

[DirkGently]

16. Who "took up arms?" How?

It's simple if you accept the principal that our government can assassinate two accused enemies and murder two other Americans in the process, without any charges, trial, jury, or proof.

But that kind of power never gets abused, right?

[Matariki]

24. You're being sarcastic I hope?

Killing teens just because of who they were related to - that's 'no problem'?

It has to be sarcasm.

[DevonRex]

11. We already read that

in the NYT.

[Celldweller]

17. yeh... but they were BAD Americans.

[rug]

18. "it is an unfortunate but undeniable fact"

[Atman]

22. Doesn't everyone have "Adobe?"

I see this posted all the time..."I'm using Adobe and I can't figure out blah blah blah,"

WTF? "Adobe" is the name of a company, not a product.

[gopiscrap]

25. Jesus Christ

and we're supposed to be a freedom loving nation? We're a bunch of hypocrites.

[Solly Mack]

26. K/R

[mwrguy]

27. Don't take up arms against the USA and you won't get a hellfire in your lap.

It's pretty simple.

[HiPointDem]

28. um -- they didn't. so it ain't that simple, tough guy.