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When I have a 9% approval rating at my job (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 OP
A-fucking-Men!! Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #1
That's because you're not the boss. Lots of managers have ratings that low. saras Dec 2011 #2
that suggests that our congresscritters are our bosses. To that, I say ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #6
Huh? abelenkpe Dec 2011 #8
Where do you work because that's not the case where I work lunatica Dec 2011 #17
Bummer abelenkpe Dec 2011 #19
+1 Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #21
You don't have to fool all the people all the time... Bucky Dec 2011 #3
Perhaps the saddest truth yet. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #5
American memes: If you're not succeeding you're not screwing the other guy... TheMadMonk Dec 2011 #16
Problem is, how? They are like roaches- they just keep coming. BeHereNow Dec 2011 #4
Boxer? abelenkpe Dec 2011 #9
Read it and weep... I believed in her for decades! BeHereNow Dec 2011 #11
Aaaauuuuuggggh!!!! abelenkpe Dec 2011 #18
At will employment means you can get fired for a 99% approval rating too. ANY TIME, no reason patrice Dec 2011 #7
Not if you have a contract. sulphurdunn Dec 2011 #30
Time to send that one to our "representatives" onethatcares Dec 2011 #10
they won't care... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2011 #25
We would get fired long before it sunk to 9% liberal N proud Dec 2011 #12
How many of them folks in that picture come from the working class? nt Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #13
as they sit unionworks Dec 2011 #14
9% is misleading. People generally think Congress sucks - except for their Representative. Alexander Dec 2011 #15
Yup. n/t progressoid Dec 2011 #23
Just read an article that spoke to exactly that: My Congressman can beat up your Congressman gtar100 Dec 2011 #26
Also, everyone hates pork projects, unless it's THEIR pork project. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #29
Only 242 of them need to be fired. baldguy Dec 2011 #20
so can Dem conventions NOW have signs with zip codes & local Dem clubs too, to sign up voters StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #22
As good an illustration as any how it's not a "job" treestar Dec 2011 #24
As good an illustration as any how it's not a "job" AlbertCat Dec 2011 #31
RWers I talk to actually tried to claim Cain's experience as CEO constituted treestar Dec 2011 #32
that text is possibly clever enough to go on a Big Dog shirt BOG PERSON Dec 2011 #27
Unless you are the CEO getting mega-bucks. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #28

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. that suggests that our congresscritters are our bosses. To that, I say
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:15 PM
Dec 2011

NO
FUCKING
WAY.

Sure many of them succumb to the "Inside The Bloatway Disease" where they start believing their own press releases, and believe that they are actually powerful, important P E O P L E. That happens a lot to most congresscritters. Funny, but senators seem to be slightly more immune to that disease, but also cannot help to suffer from close association with "power" and being in the center of government.

Not that they polled the question closely back then, but I believe that the dive in support and trust in congress is closely associated with this corrupt, cretinous, callous, corpulent, creep who took over congress in the 80s. Eventually, he was such a turd in the punch bowl, that even his own party ended up tossing out of his leadership position. I forgot what he is doing now, but I understand that he was a Historian for Freddie and Fannie for a time, and that he has a huge account at Tiffany's.

Their true job is to represent us. Not lead us. there is a huge difference.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
8. Huh?
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:22 PM
Dec 2011

Doesn't matter how high you are at the company I work for, if the majority of people are complaining about you you are gone. Who or where are these managers that are so awful and still safe in their jobs?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. Where do you work because that's not the case where I work
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 07:04 PM
Dec 2011

I work in Administration in UC Berkeley. Our managers and High Officials aren't popular and they never lose their jobs no matter how much everyone under them hate them.

This University has taught me one very harsh lesson. Management always sticks together even if someone is a sociopathic abuser of their staff. Always. And Faculty fall right in line when it comes to staff.

After working under some of them I found one who is a professional and actually fights for the staff against everyone and treats us with dignity and respect. Some staff have come followed her to this job. When you get a good manager you simply don't want to let go.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
19. Bummer
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 07:17 PM
Dec 2011

I would have expected that place to be more enlightened. So sorry to hear that. Know what you mean about good managers. Ours rocks. We love her. She's always fighting for our department and for decent hours and such.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
21. +1
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 04:43 AM
Dec 2011

I work in a completely different industry & I agree that Management all sticks together. They will simply not offer a word of criticism of another. The only comment you can get out of one about another is silence and that in and of itself speaks volumes. One needs to know what that silence means along with facial expressions in order to get a real read on them.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
3. You don't have to fool all the people all the time...
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:09 PM
Dec 2011

Just one out of eleven people once every other November.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
5. Perhaps the saddest truth yet.
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:14 PM
Dec 2011

I watched a terrific doc on Current TV yesterday:
"Two Americas"

It followed two families, one uber rich and one about to lose
everything.
Excellent film making-

The REALLY depressing scene though was the camera
following and cutting between both families watching
Republican debate.

The poor family really thought the Republicans were
going to save them.

COMPLETE disconnect from reality about how they
got to the point they were at.

BHN

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
16. American memes: If you're not succeeding you're not screwing the other guy...
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:53 PM
Dec 2011

...hard enough.

The ONLY way forward in the US of A is to stamp on the fingers of those attempting to claw their way up from below.

It is YOUR position they're after.

I Will take a razor to my (and my kids) throat(s) before allowing a filthy <insert ethnic/sexual/non-christian minority here> to benefit alongside me.


You lot really do observe the successful, (filthy rich) and come away with the conclusion, that the true path to success is to emulate the worst aspects of their behaviour. Simply being better is the last refuge of those too incompetent to force failure on the competition.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
4. Problem is, how? They are like roaches- they just keep coming.
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:10 PM
Dec 2011

Seeing Boxer vote against the people of California
was the final straw for me.
I want her GONE.

How do we get rid of the corporatists on BOTH sides of the aisle, and start over?
I know it is our only hope, but HOW?

BHN

 

unionworks

(3,574 posts)
14. as they sit
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:37 PM
Dec 2011

In their. Nice warm officces with their nice fat salaries that we pay for,as they bipartisanly cut LIHEAP so seniorsand handicapped on fixed income can freeze to death. There is no shame left in congress.

 

Alexander

(15,318 posts)
15. 9% is misleading. People generally think Congress sucks - except for their Representative.
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 06:41 PM
Dec 2011

That's why you'll see Congress as a whole with a 9% approval rating, but specific Representatives/Senators will have much higher approval ratings.

Frankly, I'd answer the same way. I'm from CT, so all of our Representatives are Democrats. Blumenthal is also a Democrat, and Lieberman - well - we all know about him.

So for me personally, my representative (Joe Courtney - CT-2) is doing a decent job, but I would answer "disapprove" if I was asked by a pollster what I thought of Congress itself. I certainly wouldn't want an answer of "approve" to be misconstrued as supporting what John Boehner is doing.

Most people all over the country - whether they are Democrats, Republicans, Independents or third-party supporters - tend to think like this, which is why a Congress with such low approval ratings will still see most of its members re-elected in the next cycle.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
29. Also, everyone hates pork projects, unless it's THEIR pork project.
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 03:49 PM
Dec 2011

My rep, Collin Peterson (DINO-MN) is one of the kings of congressional pork, that's why he keeps getting elected.

StarsInHerHair

(2,125 posts)
22. so can Dem conventions NOW have signs with zip codes & local Dem clubs too, to sign up voters
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 04:43 AM
Dec 2011

& can we finally get "precinct committee members", that's what determines who gets on local ballots, here a DU poster found Youtube vids, how the TeaParty got into gov, just use it for the FDR Left

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1640640

by Waiting For Everyman

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. As good an illustration as any how it's not a "job"
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 11:19 AM
Dec 2011

At our jobs, one person decides and that person is answerable to the company.

Each of those 535 people is answerable to a different set of people. Each one of them has a high enough approval rating in that district that they got elected.

They can't be fired en masse, only by each of the 535 different groupings. And each of those groupings may well have a very high approval rating for the critter they chose!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
31. As good an illustration as any how it's not a "job"
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 04:35 PM
Dec 2011

Also why running government "like a business"... that ol' GOP meme.... is absurd and yet another lousy GOP idea....

that they don't even mean.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. RWers I talk to actually tried to claim Cain's experience as CEO constituted
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 05:02 PM
Dec 2011

"executive experience." These same people claimed Obama didn't have that - just legislative. Well at least that was government. Herb wouldn't have the slightest idea where to start. It's not like selling pizza. Right wingers think they are so clever.

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