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(56,912 posts)saras
(6,670 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)NO
FUCKING
WAY.
Sure many of them succumb to the "Inside The Bloatway Disease" where they start believing their own press releases, and believe that they are actually powerful, important P E O P L E. That happens a lot to most congresscritters. Funny, but senators seem to be slightly more immune to that disease, but also cannot help to suffer from close association with "power" and being in the center of government.
Not that they polled the question closely back then, but I believe that the dive in support and trust in congress is closely associated with this corrupt, cretinous, callous, corpulent, creep who took over congress in the 80s. Eventually, he was such a turd in the punch bowl, that even his own party ended up tossing out of his leadership position. I forgot what he is doing now, but I understand that he was a Historian for Freddie and Fannie for a time, and that he has a huge account at Tiffany's.
Their true job is to represent us. Not lead us. there is a huge difference.
Doesn't matter how high you are at the company I work for, if the majority of people are complaining about you you are gone. Who or where are these managers that are so awful and still safe in their jobs?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I work in Administration in UC Berkeley. Our managers and High Officials aren't popular and they never lose their jobs no matter how much everyone under them hate them.
This University has taught me one very harsh lesson. Management always sticks together even if someone is a sociopathic abuser of their staff. Always. And Faculty fall right in line when it comes to staff.
After working under some of them I found one who is a professional and actually fights for the staff against everyone and treats us with dignity and respect. Some staff have come followed her to this job. When you get a good manager you simply don't want to let go.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)I would have expected that place to be more enlightened. So sorry to hear that. Know what you mean about good managers. Ours rocks. We love her. She's always fighting for our department and for decent hours and such.
I work in a completely different industry & I agree that Management all sticks together. They will simply not offer a word of criticism of another. The only comment you can get out of one about another is silence and that in and of itself speaks volumes. One needs to know what that silence means along with facial expressions in order to get a real read on them.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)Just one out of eleven people once every other November.
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)I watched a terrific doc on Current TV yesterday:
"Two Americas"
It followed two families, one uber rich and one about to lose
everything.
Excellent film making-
The REALLY depressing scene though was the camera
following and cutting between both families watching
Republican debate.
The poor family really thought the Republicans were
going to save them.
COMPLETE disconnect from reality about how they
got to the point they were at.
BHN
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...hard enough.
The ONLY way forward in the US of A is to stamp on the fingers of those attempting to claw their way up from below.
It is YOUR position they're after.
I Will take a razor to my (and my kids) throat(s) before allowing a filthy <insert ethnic/sexual/non-christian minority here> to benefit alongside me.
You lot really do observe the successful, (filthy rich) and come away with the conclusion, that the true path to success is to emulate the worst aspects of their behaviour. Simply being better is the last refuge of those too incompetent to force failure on the competition.
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)Seeing Boxer vote against the people of California
was the final straw for me.
I want her GONE.
How do we get rid of the corporatists on BOTH sides of the aisle, and start over?
I know it is our only hope, but HOW?
BHN
Uh O what did she do?
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)That really really sucks.
patrice
(47,992 posts)whatsoever.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)onethatcares
(16,185 posts)dontcha think?
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)their real boss (wall street) gives them much higher ratings.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)We have most corrupt system.
Modern_Matthew
(1,604 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)In their. Nice warm officces with their nice fat salaries that we pay for,as they bipartisanly cut LIHEAP so seniorsand handicapped on fixed income can freeze to death. There is no shame left in congress.
Alexander
(15,318 posts)That's why you'll see Congress as a whole with a 9% approval rating, but specific Representatives/Senators will have much higher approval ratings.
Frankly, I'd answer the same way. I'm from CT, so all of our Representatives are Democrats. Blumenthal is also a Democrat, and Lieberman - well - we all know about him.
So for me personally, my representative (Joe Courtney - CT-2) is doing a decent job, but I would answer "disapprove" if I was asked by a pollster what I thought of Congress itself. I certainly wouldn't want an answer of "approve" to be misconstrued as supporting what John Boehner is doing.
Most people all over the country - whether they are Democrats, Republicans, Independents or third-party supporters - tend to think like this, which is why a Congress with such low approval ratings will still see most of its members re-elected in the next cycle.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)gtar100
(4,192 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)My rep, Collin Peterson (DINO-MN) is one of the kings of congressional pork, that's why he keeps getting elected.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)StarsInHerHair
(2,125 posts)& can we finally get "precinct committee members", that's what determines who gets on local ballots, here a DU poster found Youtube vids, how the TeaParty got into gov, just use it for the FDR Left
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1640640
by Waiting For Everyman
treestar
(82,383 posts)At our jobs, one person decides and that person is answerable to the company.
Each of those 535 people is answerable to a different set of people. Each one of them has a high enough approval rating in that district that they got elected.
They can't be fired en masse, only by each of the 535 different groupings. And each of those groupings may well have a very high approval rating for the critter they chose!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Also why running government "like a business"... that ol' GOP meme.... is absurd and yet another lousy GOP idea....
that they don't even mean.
treestar
(82,383 posts)"executive experience." These same people claimed Obama didn't have that - just legislative. Well at least that was government. Herb wouldn't have the slightest idea where to start. It's not like selling pizza. Right wingers think they are so clever.