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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:36 PM May 2013

Is Obama the ‘environmental president’?

Is Obama the ‘environmental president’?

By David Roberts

Several people have asked me what I think of Jonathan Chait’s new column in New York magazine: “Obama Might Actually Be the Environmental President.” Apparently some folks are quite upset about it and think it’s terrible, though I’m not entirely sure why...Chait mostly gets it right. He’s right that Obama has made much more progress on climate and clean energy than he gets credit for. He’s right that Obama has mostly done it through the stimulus bill and a series of low-key regulatory actions, rather than through high-profile “green” fights...And — perhaps more controversially — Chait is right that the decisions Obama makes on Clean Air Act authority in his second term are more significant, in carbon terms, than the much more high-profile decision he’s going to make on the Keystone XL pipeline. (Glad to see Chait call out NRDC’s ingenious proposal to make carbon regulations do serious work at low cost.)

What I think has my friends upset, and where they differ, is Chait’s overall assessment: that Obama is therefore “the environmental president.” The question here is — as it is for every historical figure, but especially Obama, and especially on climate — compared to what?

Is Obama a success on climate compared to what needs to be done? Ha ha. No. Of course not. But then all world leaders fail that test...A success on climate compared to previous presidents? Or to a possible President Mitt Romney? Well, of course. Clinton and Gore bungled it and George W. Bush crammed it forcefully out of sight. Mitt Romney would have done doodly-squat. (And no, John McCain wouldn’t have done anything either.) Compared to nothing, Obama’s done a fantastic job.

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The question for me is whether Obama has been a success compared to what was (and is) possible. And here, I’m with Chait: If he delivers ambitious regulations on existing power plants, then yes, Obama will be an overall success on climate and energy...Given the situation he inherited — a vertiginous economic crisis followed by persistent high unemployment, a Republican Party now single-mindedly devoted to nihilistic opposition, and a series of choke points like the filibuster that give a committed congressional opposition almost total veto power — he has accomplished a miraculous amount...There’s more he could have done, of course, but as Chait himself has written, the American public and commentariat alike are deep in the grips of magical thinking about the presidency, blowing it up all out of proportion to its real power (on domestic policy, at least). Unless his agenda is shared by a large and muscular congressional majority — and Obama’s climate agenda is not, as was painfully demonstrated — the president has to work by hook or by crook, incrementally, in the margins. Ritually chanting “bully pulpit” and “leadership” won’t change that.

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http://grist.org/politics/is-obama-the-environmental-president/

One could look the administration's achievements through Lisa Jackson's tenure at the EPA.

EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson Leaves a Legacy of Cleaner Air, Safer Water, and More Stable Climate

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By honoring the law and protecting the health of ordinary people, Jackson showed us that sound government leadership makes our nation stronger and more vibrant. I am sorry to see her leave the Obama administration, but I know her accomplishments will live on in the form of cleaner air, safer drinking water, and a more stable climate.

The first-ever national standards to limit mercury and other dangerous emissions from power plants, for instance, will save up to 11,000 American lives every year. They will also prevent nearly 5,000 heart attacks annually and protect children from neurological damage. Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that damages developing brains in children and fetuses, yet power plants have been resisting mercury rules for decades—even as every other major industrial sector in America already started reducing their mercury pollution. Jackson knew it was time for power plants to clean up their act, and she established strong standards that will finally prompt them to do so.

As the mother of a boy who suffers from asthma, Jackson has been a fierce champion of the Clean Air Act. But she has also pushed to make our nation’s waterways cleaner. She laid out the first comprehensive plan for saving the Chesapeake Bay from pollution that is literally choking the life out of the largest estuary in our country. She protected Appalachian streams from devastation by rejecting the Spruce No. 1 Mine—the largest mountaintop removal coal operation proposed in West Virginia—plan to dump rubble, coal dust, selenium, and other toxic pollution into the region’s waterways. And she worked tirelessly throughout the BP oil disaster to reassure Gulf residents that the administration would restore this national treasure.

But perhaps Jackson’s most far-reaching achievement is her leadership on climate change. She oversaw the EPA’s determination that carbon pollution and other greenhouse gases endanger human health and well-being. Following four decades of Clean Air Act precedent, the EPA used that determination as the basis to begin reducing carbon pollution.

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http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/fbeinecke/epa_administrator_lisa_jackson.html


Lisa Jackson to Leave EPA: Earthjustice Statement

Statement from Earthjustice Vice President of Litigation Patti Goldman:


“America owes Lisa Jackson a debt of gratitude for her work to protect the public's health from polluters and their allies in Congress. For her efforts to clean up pollution and better protect the environment and public health, she faced a steady barrage from members of Congress and the industrial polluters who back them. Her detractors are the same people who told us taking lead out of gasoline in the 1970's would break the economy and that taking acid out of acid rain in the 1990's would ruin the country. In both cases, the environment and economy were strengthened and this is the approach Lisa Jackson took. There is a lot of unfinished business started by Jackson that the next EPA director will need to attend to. Whoever it is, they'll need the support of the President and they'll need to be ready for a non-stop barrage of attacks from the chemical, industrial and fossil fuel industries and their allies in Congress.

“After 17 years of Earthjustice litigation it was Lisa Jackson who finally regulated mercury and other toxic pollutants coming from power plants. After a decade of litigation from Earthjustice and others, it was Lisa Jackson who supported and implemented regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gases. After more than a decade of Earthjustice litigation it was Lisa Jackson who finally implemented the first regulation of mercury from cement kilns all over the country.”

http://earthjustice.org/news/press/2012/lisa-jackson-to-leave-epa-earthjustice-statement


Here's a few of the accomplishments...
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1174138/48873639#c4


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Is Obama the ‘environmental president’? (Original Post) ProSense May 2013 OP
For starters, nobody, and I mean NO BODY, has addressed fuel economy standards since Carter... NYC_SKP May 2013 #1
Obama put a cork in the leak, but he didn't refill the barrel. Buzz Clik May 2013 #2
It's like ProSense May 2013 #3
I guess I missed any of this in the OP. Buzz Clik May 2013 #4
Yeah, ProSense May 2013 #5
Interesting article; the existing power plan rule is a big one, though not generating XL-style flash hatrack May 2013 #6
I have to say there's a lot of info there I was not aware of. (nt) enough May 2013 #7
Please tell me we're not being prepped for a Keystone XL go ahead.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #8
LOL...my thoughts, too. TransitJohn May 2013 #9
I guess ProSense May 2013 #11
Sorry. But while the boss starts to talk about all the fringe benefits.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #17
So you think ProSense May 2013 #18
No. nt LWolf May 2013 #10
Thanks for your opinion. ProSense May 2013 #12
Yep. nt LWolf May 2013 #13
sadly the best evidence of him doing goood is leaving dembotoz May 2013 #14
Anyone who backs that XL pipeline Generic Other May 2013 #15
"According to the New York Post" ProSense May 2013 #16
I don't trust anyone anymore Generic Other May 2013 #19
Some of the responses CheapShotArtist May 2013 #20
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. For starters, nobody, and I mean NO BODY, has addressed fuel economy standards since Carter...
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:39 PM
May 2013

Until now, and we are hitting them fairly hard considering the resistance.

Dropping the ball on CAFE standards and other environmental matters is something for which I'll never be able to forgive Clinton.

grrrrr.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. Obama put a cork in the leak, but he didn't refill the barrel.
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:44 PM
May 2013

--EPA remains underfunded for research and enforcement
--EPA continues to play slap and tickle with the gas industry about monitoring their activities

Is he continuing the non-policies (and some anti-environmental policies) of Bush? No. But let's not kid ourselves...

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. It's like
Mon May 6, 2013, 08:56 PM
May 2013
Obama put a cork in the leak, but he didn't refill the barrel.

--EPA remains underfunded for research and enforcement
--EPA continues to play slap and tickle with the gas industry about monitoring their activities

Is he continuing the non-policies (and some anti-environmental policies) of Bush? No. But let's not kid ourselves...

...you made a comment that ignores everything in the OP.



 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. I guess I missed any of this in the OP.
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:04 PM
May 2013

EPA research is still down. Was that addressed in the OP?

Has enforcement come back to the pre-Bush levels?

Is EPA turning the screws on the fracking industry? Is that in the OP?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Yeah,
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013

"EPA research is still down. Was that addressed in the OP? "

...because straw men are hard to find.

hatrack

(59,593 posts)
6. Interesting article; the existing power plan rule is a big one, though not generating XL-style flash
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:00 PM
May 2013

Still, watching President Obama and Governor Romney tripping all over each other to show who was more pro-drilling (especially in the wake of the pathetic response to the Macondo blowout) wasn't exactly uplifting.

Still too early to say.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. I guess
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:48 AM
May 2013

"Please tell me we're not being prepped for a Keystone XL go ahead...."

...a good way to ignore the topic is with a non sequitur.

I don't think this article is going to change people's opinion of the Keystone pipeline. It sucked yesterday, and it sucks today (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022447961 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022450587). Dave Roberts certainly doesn't approve.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
17. Sorry. But while the boss starts to talk about all the fringe benefits....
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:06 AM
May 2013

I keep thinking a pay cut is just around the corner.

Call me a cynic.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. So you think
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:12 AM
May 2013

"But while the boss starts to talk about all the fringe benefits...."

...Dave Roberts is the "boss"?

dembotoz

(16,852 posts)
14. sadly the best evidence of him doing goood is leaving
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:56 AM
May 2013

lets see the replacement

was not aware of Ms Jackson's accomplishments

but my general take is to be underwhelmed by the Obama record

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
15. Anyone who backs that XL pipeline
Tue May 7, 2013, 08:59 AM
May 2013

is no environmental anything, but instead is an ecoterrorist!

So why did Jackson quit in the middle of a tenure marked by such wonderful accomplishments?

According to the New York Post, Jackson submitted her resignation when she did because she believed that the Obama administration would move to support the Keystone pipeline and she did not want this to occur on her watch.

Of course, we all think the NYPost is a rag, but that does beg the question: Why is she calling it quits on the so-called "environmental president"?

Seriously, I am not buying this "environmental president" stuff as long as Keystone is on the table.


Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
19. I don't trust anyone anymore
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:35 AM
May 2013

Especially someone considering signing off on something as devastating as Keystone XL. You can spin that anyway you like, but the fact that he is considering it pretty much convinces me of his lack of serious commitment to protecting the environment.

CheapShotArtist

(333 posts)
20. Some of the responses
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:57 AM
May 2013

"Obama has made much more progress on climate and clean energy than he gets credit for."

prove this guy's point. People ignore the steps Obama has taken in the right direction and the fact that he has done more than his predecessors to address climate change, only to reprimand him for some damn pipeline that hasn't even been agreed to yet. Just like almost every other issue so far.

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